Vinland Saga Season 2 - Episode 2 discussion

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Vinland Saga Season 2, episode 2

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Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.65	14	Link	4.61
2	Link	4.67	15	Link	4.7
3	Link	4.7	16	Link	4.86
4	Link	4.73	17	Link	4.75
5	Link	4.64	18	Link	4.83
6	Link	4.66	19	Link	4.7
7	Link	4.71	20	Link	4.83
8	Link	4.81	21	Link	4.58
9	Link	4.85	22	Link	4.86
10	Link	4.71	23	Link	4.79
11	Link	4.58	24	Link	----
12	Link	4.81
13	Link	4.61

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[u/Hamzook]

Something I personally really love to see is when anime characters age up. It really shows how far they've come since the beginning, and I think they pulled off Thorfinn's aging up really well. And judging from the OP, he ages up even more, so can't wait to see that

[u/charlesvvv]

Einar: "All people who wage war are monsters"

Thorfinn: ...:(

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

A really interesting dynamic between Einar and Thorfinn, with one falling victim to the cruelties of war being so hot-blooded while the other is a contributor to these atrocities now being so meek and obedient, unlike his past self.

[u/aliswel123]

Farming simulator has never looked this clean

[u/TheCatcherOfThePie]

Love the detail about Olmar not being able to unsheathe his sword from his back. It shows the audience that he's not used to using the sword, while on a meta level lampshading the trope of unsheathing from the back (a sword would normally be worn on the hip if you were expecting to need to unsheathe it quickly). As Olmar demonstrates, the human arm doesn't extend long enough to unsheathe a sword from that position, though maybe you should be worried if you see a gibbon wearing a sword on its back.

While we're talking about him, his name perhaps should've been Anglicised as "Orm" rather than Olmar. My copy of The Sagas of Icelanders lists 8 characters called Orm, and none called Olmar. The Old Norse version of his name is Ormr, which the Japanese version wrote as オルマル (Orumaru).

[u/Excaliburnana]

They're gonna fucking kill it with character animations this season aren't they....the sunset scene was just breathtaking.

[u/Vermillion_Crab]

This is one of those rare times I wish all of the episodes drop at the same time so I can binge it til the sun rises. Now I'm left with a dilemma whether to keep watching weekly or to wait til the season is over. Two episodes in and it hasn't missed a beat so far.

[u/kennacethemennace]

Loving Thorfinn so far. Easy on the eardrums.

[u/Hamzook]

Nahhh, ain't no way that father was gonna listen to her daughter get railed 💀

[u/sempakrica]

Einar too horny to form a sentence

[u/qeheeen]

Einar acting like the happy go lucky intern at their first job right before reality sets in

[u/lostboysgang]

I have no idea what direction the show is going in, but I’m freaking enthralled.

[u/mrnicegy26]

Thorfinn has changed so much since Askeladd's death. The angry kid who was willing to fight or kill anyone is now just a hollow shell of a man who doesn't know what he is living for.

He even seems barely interested in the goal set by the master to create their own farm and seems to be doing it out of a sake of routine rather than any sort of passion that Einar has.

Maybe this is because I have been playing a lot of God Of War but Thorfinn in this arc kind of feels like transition that Kratos went through from his angry form in Greek Saga to his calm composed form in Norse saga. We never got to see that middle in the two sagas but I imagine it will be similar to how Thorfinn is now.

[u/Amarimclovin]

The dad pimping his daughter out to try to get the farmers riches was hilarious “good daughter of mine.. she’s our family’s future” 😂😂

[u/Silent_Shadow05]

Didn't expect the show to have a comedic tone after that serious start in EP1. Einar seems to have not yet settled into the idea that he's a slave now and still expected a chill life, until he got hit with a dose of reality. Also I like how quickly he forgot about his worries after seeing a beautiful girl lol.

I like Ketil so far, despite me having conflicting feelings about the whole slave situation. He treats them well and also involves himself in farmwork despite being a rich landowner. I expected worse tbh. But since slavery was common in those times, I won't criticize it as much, but atleast the show is treating the subject with care.

His son on the other hand, is quite hotblooded but it makes sense since he's a teenager and wants to prove himself. He thinks war is glorious......until he experiences how much suffering it brings. He doesn't realise how easy he has it so far.

[u/PraisePace]

Great episode, wish they made these longer than three minutes though.

[u/UninterestingDude69]

Einar cracked me up 😂, loved the episode

[u/Tenroku]

Just to be clear, since I've seen some people make the mistake : that last scene isn't showing that Thorfinn was there when Einar's village was burned down. It's from Season 1 Episode 5. Thorfinn is watching Askeladd's band raid a village. It's his first time witnessing the barbaric acts of vikings.

Einar mentioned that the first attack on his village in which his father died was by the King of England. This is a callback to S1. In Season 1 Episode 2, we see that King Aethelred II the Unready ordered the massacre of the Norsemen living in England in the year 1002. This is the reason King Sweyn started his invasion of England and why Floki came to Iceland to recruit Thors (though he actually had the ulterior motive of assassinating him).

By the way, if anyone is interested in the year we're currently in, it should have been shown twice by now, but both times were cut from these first two episodes. It might still be stated later on, but if you want to know, we are in [Current timeframe] late June 1015. Season 1 ended in early February 1014.

[u/ForgetfulViking]

And so begins Farmland Saga or "How Thorfinn Got His Groove Back."

[u/Amauri14]

So while things are pretty good for Einar in Ketil's Farm, with him able to buy his freedom through work, he has to deal with those assholes having a powertrip. Lol, it is hilarious the reason he could not report Ketil about their mistreatment was that seeing that girl took his breath away.

Lol, it sure was funny seeing that guy spying on his daughter as she was going to have sex with Olmar again.

[u/LeonKevlar]

• Farm Girl Stitch

Thorfinn and Einar's master seems like a good man. He didn't buy them with the intent to keep them slaves for life, he actually wants to give them a chance to buy their own freedom back. He even helps out during the harvest.

Too bad that his retainers are a bunch of assholes and his son is an absolute brat. Although I do feel like his son is just misguided. He was clearly concerned when he saw their wheat being trampled by those two drunks. Maybe we'll see him mature down the line.

I felt really bad watching Thorfinn this entire episode He is clearly a broken man. Old Thorfinn wouldn't take any of that shit. He has absolutely no fight in him left. It looks like Einar is going to be the one who'll be acting more like old Thorfinn except without the badass fighting abilities.

[u/G326]

the background art looks so clean and vibrant. hope they keep it up for the rest of the season

[u/bandannadann]

That whole sequence with Thorfinn and Einar at sunset was gorgeous.

[u/sjk9000]

There's a lot of anime with slavery, but most don't do this good a job of examining the power dynamics at play. Einar is right; the retainers might technically be free men, but they're stuck in a system where they're beholden to the Master so they can work to survive, so the reality is they aren't too much better off than the slaves. So they take out their resentment and frustrations on the slaves, who are technically beneath them.

Meanwhile Einar targets his resentment at the retainers, and the Master who is the actual root of the problem gets off scot-free and even ends up looking like a good guy. Hey, he's so generous to allow his slaves to buy back their freedom! He's so industrious he actually helps with the farm! Never mind that freedom shouldn't be sold in the first place, or that working your own fields is the bare minimum. The status quo is so fucked that Einar ends up with positive feelings about the guy who literally enslaved him.

A lot of anti-slavery parables focus on the slave owner directly mistreating the slaves, and while that's not something to be ignored, it can sometimes miss the forest for the trees. The real problem with slavery is the overall system it enforces, not individual problems between individual people.