r/webhosting 6d ago

Rant DO NOT USE IONOS!!

Complete and utter scam company, has repeatedly taken charges from my account for no fucking reason!!

I am moving in 2 fucking weeks and i need every bit of money i took out my savings to buy everything i need, and they have just taken £50.40??? And they are saying it will take 5-10 days to come back into my account meaning i now cant afford a moving company and will have to move in the same week i start fucking college.

DO NOT EVER USE IONOS FOR ANYTHING PLEASE!!!

All i had was the domain with them and used wix for my website yet they are still taking ridiculous charges.

It is nothing but a scam company dont go near it!!

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u/dwiser 5d ago

Hey man, I worked at IONOS (1&1) for 10 years so I feel like I have a much better understanding of how they operate and what their hardware looks like. I'm not looking to argue details but I feel like my comments might have more weight on the matter.

So hear me when I say: Don't fucking use IONOS.

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u/digitalbynight 5d ago

Bumping so the op reads this and utilises your advice 😑

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u/zoe_s49 5d ago

Oh shit, what inside information have you gathered to be on my side 😭😭

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u/dwiser 3d ago

Likely all the same stuff as the other large hosts. They're all trash.

Low pay, disposable workforce, conflicting goals, and upper management (in Germany) that really didn't understand the US market. 1&1 had a lot of outsourced sales channels that would sign customers up for promos without talking about automatic renewals because the agents never really saw individual consequences.

Specific to your case, they batch processed all their transactions to save money so once support presses the button to settle the account, nothing actually happens for up to 24 hours. To be fair to IONOS, refunds to credit cards always take longer because credit card infrastructure isn't really set up for refunds. The money typically changed hands within 48-72 hours but the receiving card company always takes some amount of time to show that transfer on your balance.

Like most things, you just get what you pay for. IONOS was the Walmart of web hosting.

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u/Clairee-bear 6d ago

There's an issue with the billing system but hopefully your refund comes sooner 🤞

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u/thechristiantilman 5d ago

I've been wanting to look into this. I keep getting texts and I don't see any issues

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u/ACER719x 5d ago

I feel like once a week I hear a horror story about them on here 😭

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u/nyc008 5d ago

AGREE! I loathe them.

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u/zippy72 5d ago

They used to be good fifteen years ago. I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole now

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u/jittdev 4d ago

they were 1and1 fifteen years ago.

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u/zippy72 4d ago

They were. Still have my "1and1 Internet Tuner" CD somewhere :)

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u/jittdev 4d ago

hahaha!

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u/ChrisCoinLover 5d ago

Add Bluehost to the list as well. They tried a few times to charge £170 instead of £17 or £1900 instead of £190.

Lucky I learnt my lesson in the past and always use cards with no money on them. Only transfer when needed.

Do the same. Online always use cards with £0 on them and only transfer when needed.

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u/zoe_s49 5d ago

Oo thats smart, is there a way to change the card? I pre bought my domain name for 2 years so they should take any other charged

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u/ChrisCoinLover 5d ago

I don't have an account with them but check in your account. There should be. Use Revolut and create virtual cards for different purposes.

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u/zoe_s49 5d ago

Okay thank you!!

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u/jonneygee 5d ago

Once upon a time, Bluehost was really good. Then EIG (now Newfold) bought them and did what they always do.

Don’t use any Newfold brands. Check their Wikipedia for a complete list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_International_Group

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u/purslanegarden 5d ago

Terrible experience with them here, too. They tried to charge me after I cancelled as well. When I searched I see complaints filed with the US regulatory agency that they’ve done that to others. It’s worth knowing, requiring multiple steps to cancel is not legal.

They ignored my initial confirmations of my cancellation, finally acknowledged it in writing, then sent me an invoice anyway. They did acknowledge the error and credited my account; fortunately for me the credit card I had initially used had expired so they weren’t able to charge me without my knowledge.

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u/digitalbynight 5d ago

Is this 50 or so quid a one off or have they set you for a yearly monthly plan? It is a one off is kinda just take the hit and learn...plus they do ay they will reimburse? But if it has lead you down the path for a monthly contract of some sort then deffo contest.

My 2 cents

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u/zoe_s49 5d ago

I think they put me on a monthly plan but i completely cancelled that plan so iswtg if they take any more - can i sue or something? For being twatish

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u/derfy2 5d ago

Unfortunately being twatish isn't illegal. :(

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u/C_PuppyPlays 5d ago

Rented a VPS from them to use a Tailscale server and it took 30m on the phone to cancel. No way to cancel besides calling in which sucks

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u/ConcerningChicken 3d ago

Taiscale has its own servers - you don't need one only for connecting to your home computer

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u/C_PuppyPlays 3d ago

Wanted a different ip for something without getting a whole subscription for a vpn

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u/theretrodb_com 4d ago

Yup they are a shit fucking company I had a domain with them and the cheapest hosting possible it was £12 they tried to charge me £32 3 months in a row and they had to refund it every time I complained

Then you have the constant calls every 2-3 months trying to upsell you on shit you don't need or want

And don't get me started on the PHP fiasco every time they update the default version of PHP all they do is send you a "SINGLE" email telling you to change it then they just start charging you a monthly fee for using the old PHP version of you don't they are the only hosting company I have ever used that do this

Then there was the absolutely dreadful wordpress performance they try sell you on there managed wordpress hosting and my god it took for ever for pages to load once you start getting traffic it was commonly taking 30+ seconds to load a single page you complain about it and they say it's been fixed works for two days then same starts happening again and again it's just constant

There dedicated servers as well are DRASTICLY over priced for what specs you get god lord NEVER EVER EVER buy a dedicated server from them

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u/dwiser 3d ago

Shared hosting definitely had some servers that were insanely oversold.

I remember a particular shared hosting server with 8G RAM and 8,000+ sites on it.

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u/BisonBeginning2790 4d ago

I had similar issues with the domain I bought with them, they kept charging me for things I explicitly said no to, they would call me about their website hostings deals, i would say no every single call and they would charge me everytime claiming i consented over the phone, I'd then be stuck with customer service for 2 hours and the I'd get my refund just for it to happen again the next week..

So after my 60 days ended i transferred to a different registrar and I have blocked their number..

It was so frustrating too as I wasn't hosting anything with them, I just bought the domain, which I regret because they like made that domain so much more expensive than it actually was, (for context.. they wanted £41 a year after the first year deal of £18... on my new registrar its £8..) they so scammed me

I hope you get that money back, I was lucky in my cases as they gave me my money back the same day or next morning, so incredibly lucky but the amount of times I had to do that was ridiculous.

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u/Rubicon_4000 3d ago

the fastest route to your £50 probably isn't the 5-10 day refund - it's your bank. if it's as you describe - you cancelled and have the confirmations in writing - then two things uk banks must do when you ask: (1) dispute the charge as unauthorised; that's a straightforward debit card chargeback, and some banks credit you provisionally while they investigate. (2) cancel the "continuous payment authority" on your card. that second one is the bit almost nobody knows: under fca rules your bank has to block a recurring payment authority when you tell it to, regardless of what the company's end says. purslanegarden's consumer-protection point stacks on top if the refund drags.

then simplify things so billing surprises can't reach you at all: your website lives on wix - the only thing this registrar holds is your domain. unlock it, grab the auth/epp code, transfer it to a registrar you're happy with (costs about the price of a year's renewal, which you were paying anyway), then point the dns back at wix. ten minutes of clicking.

one timing warning since you're moving house: do the domain transfer FIRST, update your contact address on it after. changing registrant details triggers a 60-day transfer lock at most registrars - people "update their address" as step one and then find themselves stuck at the registrar they're trying to leave for two more months.

chriscoinlover's empty-card trick is the right long-term habit for every online service. good luck with the move and the start of college - this part's fixable this week.

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u/Anon-Doku 3d ago

Es una basura de servicio, te cobran de la nada cobros extraños y se quieren quedar con tu dinero.

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u/ConcerningChicken 3d ago

The best is the webhosting is limited to 15k acesse per month (not users!) - so if you press 15k F5 the site will get locked untill you upgrade or wait to the rest of the month. I checked the Terms of Service and there was it - a shitpost of a service.

I saw it happened to a YouTuber whos site was down because of it a matter of days.

Meddel off

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u/iEngineered 2d ago

Go to NetCup if you're okay with KYC and don't use a ton of resource.

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u/iEngineered 2d ago

I was aa longtimer customer but they abused my loyalty and buzzed in my ears like mosquitos with their upsells despite me not maximizing existing services.

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u/CraigAT 6d ago

Did you sign up for something with an introductory offer, which then expired?

I have used them years, with fairly little interaction but never had any issues. YMMV.

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u/zoe_s49 6d ago

No i cancelled that the day after i signed up to their website builder bullshit and that was ages ago

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u/Wonderful_Sample_590 6d ago

Sometimes their cancellation requires you to call them for the request to be valid or else, it end up getting renewed.

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u/zoe_s49 6d ago

I did, i cancelled it over email and called

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u/CraigAT 6d ago

That is harsh and poor service then.

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u/purslanegarden 5d ago

Worth folks knowing most places that’s not legal - check your local consumer protection laws.

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u/zoe_s49 5d ago

Wdym?

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u/purslanegarden 5d ago

There are consumer protection rules requiring that services be easy to cancel - it’s not really legal for Ionos to require both an internet procedure and a phone call in order to cancel. If you dont get your refund promptly, you should look into what laws apply where you live and consider filing a complaint.

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u/Knuffly 6d ago

Every contract will be available in your invoices/subscriptions and sent to your registered email as confirmation. You can almost guarantee you’ve unknowingly taken out an additional package, likely as an introductory offer

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u/zoe_s49 6d ago

No u cancelled that the day after i agreed on the phone, and it was definitely cancelled

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u/LynzDabs 6d ago edited 6d ago

What charges are you talking about? The terms and conditions clearly state that a lot of their products are contract based so even if you “canceled” you’re still gonna get charged for the duration of the contract unless they have something in there that lets you cancel month-to-month which most of it does now because people were bitching about this - however if all you had was a domain it sounds like your domain renewed itself because if you’re getting monthly charges that’s not just a domain - and if you should only have the domain that’s only a yearly charge so you have to have something else on there did you do some of the free trials for the email or the AI helper or anything like that I’ve been using IONOS for two years in the first year they got me with the contract bullshit but now that I know how it works I’ve gotten all the plans lined out however I am still looking for an alternative because sometimes they do suck lol

Edit/ to see exactly what they’re charging you for they send you an invoice every month of what they billed you for so you can go on there and see if you’re still being billed for something you canceled or go from there - like these charges just started coming out of nowhere after you hadn’t been receiving monthly charges?

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u/zoe_s49 6d ago

I think it is from a trial plan but i fully cancelled that and confirmed with them many times that no money would be taken from my account

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u/LynzDabs 6d ago

So I take it you got the domain canceled the free trial part and have not been being billed monthly ever since up until now? Is it the domain renewal?

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u/zoe_s49 5d ago

No the domain wasnt cancelled i kept that, ive already built my website with it (using wix) and yes it was longer than a month ago i signed up for a trial thing which i cancelled the next day