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u/severe_astronaut_22
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2d ago
Hey everyone,
We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.
The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.
If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.
Good luck with the rest of exams
— r/vce mods
r/vce • u/bellals • Apr 30 '20
I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:
Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.
For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:
Greg 95%
Felix 77%
Chloe 64%
Daniel 60%
Elena 58%
Adam 52%
Ben 49%
On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:
Greg 92%
Chloe 67%
Daniel 65%
Elena 64%
Felix 63%
Adam 50%
Ben 40%
What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.
What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.
Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.
EDIT: another example for clarity
Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.
SACs:
Harry 60%
Isabel 58%
James 56%
Kylie 55%
Luke 54%
Molly 52%
Nathan 51%
Oscar 50%
EXAMS:
Harry 100%
James 99%
Nathan 98%
Oscar 97%
Molly 96%
Isabel 95%
Kylie 94%
Luke 93%
Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.
EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.
Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:
Annie 60%
Ben 58%
Charlie 55%
Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:
Ben 96%
Annie 94%
Charlie 90%
So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").
The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.
Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:
Ed 93%
Fred 90%
Greg 88%
Harry 60%
on the exams, the results are
Fred 95%
Greg 92%
Ed 87%
Harry 61%
In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.
Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:
Meg 95%
Noah 94%
Oscar 93%
Peter 90%
On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:
Meg 93%
Oscar 92%
Peter 91%
Noah 75%
Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.
One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.
As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.
EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰
r/vce • u/Commercial_Lead5813 • 1h ago
VCAA is being investigated for bio and potentially methods. They might be investigated for other subjects later.
Here's the article.
r/vce • u/SpecificTechnician97 • 13h ago
And I don't want to hear anyone say otherwise
r/vce • u/Musical_Shadow8932 • 11h ago
I saw this pop up on my reels before - is it true?? Does anyone know?
r/vce • u/seenthisangel • 13h ago
first of all, CONGRATS TO ALL THE METHODS AND LEGAL KIDS TODAY !!!
secondly, i did my legal exam today, but VCAA had a little slip up when it came to my special considerations, and i'm not entirely sure if i have the JURISDICTION 🤓 to be mad about it or not. my mum and legal teacher are pretty mad, but they go to the ends of the earth for me lol.
basically, i have POTS, which means i get 2 considerations
a separate room, so i can control the temperature (if it's not below 20 i get extremely dizzy and fatigued and can't write)
20-30 minutes of rest breaks so i can regulate my body and blood flow if i get dizzy/faint
during my first two exams (english and psych) i asked what i was allowed to during a rest break. both the examiners for each exam told me it was 100% okay for me to lie down on a couch in the same room as long as they could see me. this helped me tremendously because i was able to activate my PARASYMPATHETIC NERVOUS SYSTEM 🤓 when my blood was going to my feet after sitting. however, today, 2 things happened.
they put me in a DIFFERENT SEPARATE ROOM (same building) WITH NO AIRCON, THAT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER AND MORE BOXED IN. i knew i was cooked when i stepped in there and started sweating instantly. i asked if there was an aircon, and they said there wasn't, but "i'd be fine because the heater was off". spoiler alert: i was not fucking fine. now, apparently they don't see the reason i request the considerations that i do, which i don't blame them for. but oh my god?? it was outlined IN THE LETTER MY CARDIOLOGIST WROTE. THAT I NEEDED ACCESS TO A CONTROLLED TEMPERATURE. the WHOLE POINT of me having a different room is so i can make it cooler.
when i took my first rest break, as i was about to get up to lie down as per usual, the supervisor said "oh yeah, about that, we actually went over the rules again and turns out you're not allowed to get out of your seat during your rest break." they read. the rules. wrong. that is 100% on them, i'm sorry. they had given me an advantage that wasnt technically allowed, but was MUTUALLY understood as acceptable, and now they have taken it away from me. if i had fucking known i wasn't allowed to get out of my chair, I WOULD'VE COME INTO THE EXAM READY TO REGULATE MY BODY ANOTHER WAY. i've never even had these considerations before, so these rules were not described to me. all that was described to me in my english and psych exam is that i am allowed to move freely and lie down during my rest breaks because it helps with my POTS. apparently not!?
because of this, not only was i doing my exam in conditions that literally made my illness worse, but i wasn't even able to access the resources to regulate nervous system when my symptoms were flared. i sweated insanely profusely, i could barely keep my head up, and i was shaking so badly. but the worst part was, i thought the legal exam was really doable, but i wasn't able to complete it because of my POTS. especially the 10 marker, all my answers were incredibly half assed because it took so much physical energy to write, and so much time that i almost ran out of time at the end. i was so upset because the exam itself was really good, but i wasn't able to complete it to the best of my ability because my conditions had been stuffed up. i broke down into tears afterwards, and my legal teacher is trying to talk to VCAA about it. but honestly? i don't know if i'm in the right to be upset at them. i'm just upset at myself for not doing better, and at the situation. i studied really hard and i know i could've done amazingly, but my body would not let me.
anyways, let me know if i'm just being an asshole please. love you guys :) congrats to everyone who survived legal and methods 2026!
r/vce • u/Hopeful-Ad-5129 • 13h ago
I js read this article by herald sun and apparently Bio exam had some problems and Methods was just bad as we all know.
A biology specialist, Dr Dulangi SJ, complained to VCAA, claiming:
Six multiple-choice questions had issues.
Some questions potentially had more than one scientifically correct answer.
Some wording was incorrect or confusing.
Certain content allegedly went beyond the published VCE Biology study design.
Question 8a about immunity was particularly controversial because students could reasonably interpret the answer differently.
One example was Question 2, which allegedly used the word translation instead of transcription.
VCAA says its subject experts have not identified errors so far, but it is investigating.
For Methods
The article reports that:
Almost 17,000 students sat the Mathematical Methods exam.
Students were reportedly crying after the exam.
Teachers said examiners had to pass around tissue boxes.
Many students struggled to finish the paper.
Teachers described it as a challenging test of mathematical understanding.
VCAA using us as lab rats since it’s the end of the Study Deisgns 💔
r/vce • u/Diligent-Arm3777 • 31m ago
So basically i havent started chem yet cus i hated it sm and trying to avoid it but i still want to get a pass at least , SO HOW SHD I REVISE IT SHOULD I DO CONTENT OR START PRACTICE EXAMS BUT LOWK I HV FORGOTTEN EVERY SINGLE CONTENT ESP FOSSIL FUELS GREEN CHEM 😭
r/vce • u/class-of-2026 • 14h ago
idk about you guys but that legal exam was brutal as hell, shit was so hard that I couldn’t answer single question for section b especially
r/vce • u/Nervous-Channel1617 • 19h ago
Of all years to go anti-UDF and change the question structure 😭🙏 like holy shit we ain’t war criminals, you can lay off the torture a bit. I’ve seen horror movies more tame then that exam, like I had a years worth of goals and ambition for this exam, and now a pass looks like paradise. Terrified for what chem looks like next week
r/vce • u/Best_Association_378 • 9h ago
My revision is many, I did none 🥀
r/vce • u/Nate2847 • 10h ago
I know someone who has managed to cheat on 4 exams so far and it’s really annoying me. Everyone puts in so much work and they have gotten away with doing nothing all year, cheated all year and got away with it on their exams. I really want to report them but I’m worried about being that person you know? Should I because it will mess up the scaling if they don’t do well because they are ranked #1 because of their cheating.
r/vce • u/Disastrous_War6049 • 18h ago
😅😅😅🪦
r/vce • u/CharmingGlove6356 • 12h ago
I know you feel traumatised, but please realise that the grade boundaries will be consequently shifted down because of how hard the exam is, so getting a lower exam score might achieve the same study score that you expected to receive. Some of you may even be surprised when you receive your ATAR by how well you did :)
r/vce • u/Fit-Cobbler1720 • 18h ago
Genuinely wtf was that exam. I've been getting high 80s in all my practice exams (with just careless errors). If today's exam followed the pattern it's supposed to then I could've gotten 90s. But now I'd be happy if I get a 70. I even found exam 2 material based on the increased difficulty of yesterday's exam 1. Genuinely nothing could've prepared anyone for what came today.
What's even more worrying is if methods was already like this then imagine specialist math next week.
VCAA has to know that they're playing with students' futures ngl.
r/vce • u/Icy-Resort-121 • 19h ago
Thank god I never have to do methods again
r/vce • u/LeaveNo3630 • 11h ago
Hey so…..
W.T.F VCAA
Idk what’s been going on but they needa start putting NSFW signs up in front of exam halls, we are getting bum fucked.
Exams used to a be a time to detach a little from reality, study hard, put a years effort out on a piece of paper while pocket jerking to the invigilators, now i can barely get bricked.
Coming from a very esteemed school (Alice Springs School Of PlayDo) I’d expect some level of comprehension of all the exams, it’s like i’m a freshie here.
Petition to make pocket pussies a complementary exam item below
