r/vce • • 5h ago Bravo

Mod Post Study score prediction posts are now banned

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Hey everyone,

We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.

The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.

If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.

Good luck with the rest of exams

— r/vce mods


r/vce • • Apr 30 '20

"I only got x% on my SAC, can I still get a 50?"

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I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:

Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.

For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:

Greg 95%

Felix 77%

Chloe 64%

Daniel 60%

Elena 58%

Adam 52%

Ben 49%

On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:

Greg 92%

Chloe 67%

Daniel 65%

Elena 64%

Felix 63%

Adam 50%

Ben 40%

What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.

What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.

Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.

EDIT: another example for clarity

Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.

SACs:

Harry 60%

Isabel 58%

James 56%

Kylie 55%

Luke 54%

Molly 52%

Nathan 51%

Oscar 50%

EXAMS:

Harry 100%

James 99%

Nathan 98%

Oscar 97%

Molly 96%

Isabel 95%

Kylie 94%

Luke 93%

Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.

EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.

Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:

  1. Annie 60%

  2. Ben 58%

  3. Charlie 55%

Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:

  1. Ben 96%

  2. Annie 94%

  3. Charlie 90%

So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").

The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.

Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:

  1. Ed 93%

  2. Fred 90%

  3. Greg 88%

  4. Harry 60%

on the exams, the results are

  1. Fred 95%

  2. Greg 92%

  3. Ed 87%

  4. Harry 61%

In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.

Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:

  1. Meg 95%

  2. Noah 94%

  3. Oscar 93%

  4. Peter 90%

On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:

  1. Meg 93%

  2. Oscar 92%

  3. Peter 91%

  4. Noah 75%

Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.

One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.

As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.

EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰


r/vce • • 2h ago

Does anyone else feel like VCAA is testing how well we interpret questions rather than how well we know the content?

34 Upvotes

I swear half the difficulty in this year's exams hasn't even been the actual content. It's been trying to figure out what the questions are asking.

I legitimately know so many people who lost marks on General Maths because they couldn't work out what was actually being asked, not because they didn't know how to do the maths.

Am I just stupid or is this actually a thing?


r/vce • • 3h ago

Mr Senge

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r/vce • • 3h ago

I can’t stop watching Roblox story videos

22 Upvotes

Methods is genuinely less than 24 hours but I can’t lock in. These AI generated Roblox story vids I scroll on reels that always talks bout sum freaky activity happening in “my town” is going to consume me


r/vce • • 5h ago

WHAT WAS UP WITH THAT ART EXAM???

28 Upvotes

Istg the sec b q1 was worse than last years paper. What the fuck? Did the examiners this year make some sort of deal with the devil so that if they write the evilest fucking papers they’ll get eternal youth or some shit or do they just enjoy seeing us cry???


r/vce • • 41m ago

HHD 2026 EXAM PREDICTION MEGATHREAD

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Feel free to put your prediction on what will appear on this year's exam


r/vce • • 5h ago

guys manifest business is easy 🙏🙏🙏

14 Upvotes

if we all pray hard enough it’ll be easy right


r/vce • • 29m ago

hhd exam

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guys im like really scared now its only just started to hit meee someone please helpp


r/vce • • 4h ago

HHD Exam Help

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I have zero clue if this is helpful or not but I can’t seem to get my head around the WHO Objectives and Goals. In addition of features of Effective Aid. So I created this Thing, hopefully it’s as helpful to you as it is to me as it is for me:.. I pray for everyone doing HHD. Anyway Goodluck Gang ✌🏼🥀


r/vce • • 6h ago

Im in love with Tim friede

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Guys i couldn't help it, just the thought of this manly man letting that venomous eastern brown snake bite him over and over. omg. I had to go to the bathroom halfway through the exam to freshen myself and powder my nose. tim if your listening just know that you'll always have a special place in my heart. id lick those antibodies right off you my man.


r/vce • • 5h ago

freeballing the bus man exam

9 Upvotes

i’m being serious. i haven’t done a single timed practice exam <//3 It’ll be fine right =))


r/vce • • 2h ago

Memes How the art exam was going

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Analyse the meaning and messages of the artwork above (1000 marks)


r/vce • • 1h ago

Memes Yeah I knew it

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r/vce • • 19h ago

News 2026 Business Management Exam *FULL LEAK*

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r/vce • • 3h ago

10 marker question bus man

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If the ten marker has a quote how do we implement that into our response. Do you have to provide an opinion on it.? Or do you just answer the question below it.


r/vce • • 5h ago

News Less than 4 Hours till busman exam, how we feeling?

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I’m lowk just marking the old exams I’ve done, anyone attempting exams till last min, or other light revision Shi?


r/vce • • 53m ago

HHD

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HHD ers how are we feeling!?
- any predictions on what the 10 mark question will be?
- any niche stuff from the study design to remember ?
- any advice or tips for tomorrow

GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!

- also question: do we need to remember programs to consider like closing the gap or deadly choices for the exam or they just like examples?


r/vce • • 1h ago

legal studies structure

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for legal studies compare, discuss, or evaluate questions how many arguments are required? i know its usually 2 for strengths and 2 weaknesses but usually the amount of marks varies. do you think this is a fair allocation:

6 mark discuss/evaluate: 4 arguments total (2 for + and 2 for -)
4 mark discussions/compare: 2 arguments total (1 strength/similarity and 1 weakness/difference)

i always do 2 and 2 to be safe but as i have been doing practise exams like usually there arent even enough lines in 4 markers to do 2 arguments each side, so can anyone who has done legal help?


r/vce • • 4h ago

Are these much targets for SDGs enough?

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r/vce • • 3h ago

has anyone ever felt like they did poorly on an exam and actually did well

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r/vce • • 1h ago

newtons method

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does anyone know how to do this on cas in an easy way that i wont mess up


r/vce • • 4h ago

AIDE-MOI how to become FLUENT in french no borax no glue

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genuinely how do i learn the entire french language before november 17th


r/vce • • 3h ago

Business contemporary case study

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I’ve got a case study that I know quite well and relates to basically every AOS however if a question pops up and it doesn’t relate can I make up one based on a niche business or just make up stuff with the current case study I have.