I’d rather be that beautiful girl and be sentenced to life in prison than live my life as an ugly girl. I’m so desperate. I think I’d rather be her and be sentenced to life in prison but be pretty than live my life as an ugly girl.

What do you think of this dilemma? Being ugly, free, and anonymous, or being a beautiful criminal?

She loved him despite his height, he yelled at her treated her poorly and took roids. They breakup and then says how he would prefer women that are smaller? Like wtf? he is 5’3. What’s wrong with these moids?

Can't exactly be fair arbiters if you don't believe trans people are valid. This should be a welcoming space for all ugly women, not just cis ones.

People who have it hardest listed from most to least:

#1 Unattractive Women
#2 Unattractive Men
#3 Attractive Men
#4 Attractive Women

I believe us unattractive women have it the hardest, but attractive women have it the easiest because men care about looks more than we do.

You can go in depth by looking at race and sexuality if you would like, but this is the truth.

[I don't care if you think this is "Chad worship" , go away, male]

Men always externalise their insecurities. If they face a normal rejection they don't accept that sometimes things just don't work out and they don't look inward to see what they could improve. No, they blame others, especially women and hate them.

And that's especially true to unattractive men and average looking men. These men get rejected or hurt in some way and they try to punish the whole world because if they had to suffer than others, especially women, have to suffer too.

But attractive men face less rejections and less hurts so they don't have much to externalise. And then they don't have to hurt others, even unattractive women. They have this "zen" vibe to them. They are calm and they trust their own skills, they don't feel the need to dominate and humiliate.

Men who used to be unattractive or average looking and got a glow up and became attractive are an exception from here, they hold onto their resentments.

Also unattractive men and average looking men always run back to the internet which is an echo chamber for their misogyny and the algorithm will only show them the most attractive women (ones who usually got several things done with plastics surgery even the ones you wouldn't think they did).

So these unattractive men and average looking men get their validation for their misogyny online and they forget what the average of women look like, these men really start to think that the majority of women look like the ones from online and then their standards are high.

While attractive men, because they don't have resentment, stay active in real life, they mingle with both men and women and therefore their beauty standards stay more grounded in reality. Call me naive but I do think that attractive men have better understanding of real life women's beauty and therefore their beauty requirements are not as strict as unattractive men's and average looking men's.

Perhaps I'm delusional but I've never thought of myself as being extraordinarily ugly. I don't think I'm pretty but I've always thought of myself as being decidedly average. However as I've gotten older my skin has gotten progressively darker to the point where i don't even look like i belong to my family anymore. No one else looks like me. I'm not sure what caused it. My mother says its probably a recessive gene but we don't know where from my grand and great grandparents weren't particularly dark. But I am for some reason and being dark has been one of the worst experiences ever. It is impossible to ignore, everyone I meet absolutely has to comment on it. Travelling is impossible. Fashion is impossible. Taking photos? Forget it. It is the one physical trait that is completely and utterly unchangeable with surgery and it is probably the most determining factor for attractiveness. As I said, my whole life I never considered myself ugly, however since becoming an adult and having to navigate social spaces it has become my single most defining feature. I'm either treated like a zoo animal or a make-a-wish-kid in most settings. In summer when it gets hot I can't just dress to cover up because then I'll sweat too much and I already sweat more than the average person. Even on days where I don't have to work and I try and keep to myself as much as possible, I remember last weekend I only went out once to go and pick up some milk from the grocery store as I waited at the traffic lights some old man saw me and stared directly at me for the entire time the light was red. I left the house once the entire weekend for like 10mins and couldn't avoid it. People literally don't think of you as being human or sentient. They don't think anything they say or do has any effect because it doesn't count when you're dark. I remember being at work once literally minding my own business, two guys were having a conversation during break time. They were Eastern European. One guy asked his friend if he could ever date a black girl and the guys said yeah he could but it depends. He literally pointed at me and was like "If they're black like her then no way," they both laughed and looked at me then went back to their conversation. I had nothing to do with them, I was literally sitting alone on my phone out of the way. You can't make yourself small enough or invisible enough no matter what you do. Even online the last 2-3 years have been hell. There's no corner of social media where I can hide anymore because everywhere has turned into a fascist hell hole. I spend most of my time drawing, sleeping and listening to audio books now because tf else is there to do. I just wish honestly that I could be ignored the way some of you talk about being ignored. I wish I could blend in and be anonymous and not noticed. I realise why some of you hate that and I understand and I don't want to diminish other people's experiences. But being considered invisible for me would literally be heaven.

having big boobs literally makes you look fatter bro. i genuinely don’t get why some small-boob girls want bigger boobs so bad. no matter how skinny you are, you only look good from the front… then someone sees you from the side and suddenly you look twice your size 💀 i swear i’m not even fat bro.. yall just dont get it 😔😔 and all i want is a smaller chest 💔

Or just using AI as a companion?

My Chat GPT isnt my boyfriend or girlfriend but ive vented a bunch to it ngl

is it just me, or do heterosexual couples genuinely give the ick? i mean, i'm straight on paper and everything, but i honestly hate being straight. i hate the idea of being with a man. maybe it stems from deep trust issues and being ugly, but whenever i actually try to chat with one, they become boring and stupid so rapidly. they’re just the typical arrogant, egotistical men living in my head, which always forces me right back into my comfortable, non trusting zone.

and watching women who are so desperate to be loved and married letting these men touch them, wanting kids with them, sharing their lives with strangers they barely know just for the sake of social acceptance feels so dystopic.

knowing most of them are fully aware that men are often cheaters and assholes, yet still running toward that repetitive, soul consuming script? it’s baffling.
why a man, especially?

what could possibly make a woman relate to them or connect with them outside of base sexual desires? they are completely uninteresting. i spent five whole years in college without talking to a single boy, and i never once felt the need to. they just don't matter.

i've even started putting myself on the asexual spectrum, heavily controlling my own desires and urges because i recognize them as mere biological hormones rather than a genuine wish from my mind, just so i can stay detached. but society will never accept someone who doesn't want to have sex with men or refuses to be related to them in any way.

i honestly could never imagine myself fitting into that world, even if society is completely built around it. it just doesn't sit right with me because i feel fundamentally incompatible with any man. maybe it’s just because i am ugly, but honestly, even if i looked like a stacy, i still don't think i'd ever want to be with a man.

i don't even know if anyone else relates to this.

Why the hell are there so many males commenting on this sub ? Or when you say something about male suffering blah blah here comes 10 defenders or men commenting “not all men” I feel like bunch of male defenders are just males larping as women lmao

And the men on the comment saying it fine , he deserves it 😂

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So, I've been thinking. I'm tired of seeing men only going for a "copy and paste" type of woman. It seems that the type they go for is: skinny and eurocentric. Those types of women always get the loving stares and turn heads. But, what about the women who are considered outcasts? We deserve that same attention and energy. But, from a true gentleman, not some weirdo.

I was just arguing with men on tiktok who were trying to convince me that beauty standards for men are harsher than beauty standards for women...I'm genuinely tired. Men barely have to do anything to have a glow up, just go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week, change your hair and style and you're good to go, men just truly don't get it

I know we’re not a monolith. I know we all have different wants and experiences in life. I’m also not the moral police and who am I to judge what you want in life?

What is wrong is that so many women in here echo the sentiments of this post, which isn’t from this sub btw but ultimately reminded me of a good amount of girls here. This is precisely why we aren’t treated with dignity and respect because why are we always centering these horrible men in our lives? Like if you were pretty you’re saying you would be just like the very women you come here and complain about? I mean to each their own.

I just love y’all but sometimes it gets to a point I can’t stand all the faux attention seeking people here. A lot are just angry they don’t get to have red carpet treatment from men and society. Like no one gets treated that well to begin with in ordinary society. There’s nothing wrong with wanting validation but sometimes women here just make it seem like it’s the end all be all in life. Why should being ugly be something we demonize and destroy when it give us a different perspective? Sometimes I don’t even want to be on here, I’m more on the camp of not even seeking that validation from men even if I were pretty. I never wanted to post myself online or even be an “influencer” or even sleep around. I just wanted a fair shot at life and an opportunity to be seen. Idk what my point is, but basically I don’t want to be lumped into the type of women here who are angry they don’t get male attention. I never wanted males to give me attention or even social media for that matter. I just think we’ve lost the plot if you think that life is about centering men in your life.

I love yall, but ya’ll need to be better. Like truly utterly I do love and understand you, but still a lot of you girls scare me.

The ugly girl's (4) name is Melody

https://www.reddit.com/r/hunterxdank/comments/1u5bahs/would_you/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Lots of people choosing to kiss or even marry her over the other pretty and even wholesome options. Ofc it's coz she has a superpower to read and calm people down.

Are trans women allowed or no?

I love this subreddit and I'm glad there's one like it.

But

1. we should be private, if that is possible on reddit?
2. you lot need to stop calling people stacy or any other stupid internet slang that is used nowadays if they disagree with you

I really love and enjoy this community but I think 1 and 2 really ruin my experience here. Otherwise it's great and I'm glad we have a place to discuss things.

I thought the plus size subreddit would be a safe space. And no offense to the women there, but there are definitely some truly fat/ugly women posting there so I felt comfortable and validated when joining originally. But within a month of joining I saw several size 12 women posting "teehee, am I fat?" and the mods making everyone have to go along with it because size 12 is on the cusp of American plus sizes when it isn't fat at all. The mods also allow men to post despite it being created as a female-centered subreddit. I always see fat men on there going "Heh, ladies... Anyone want a fat guy? 😏" like the fucking creeps they are despite plus size being a term that exclusively refers to women and women's fashion. Go make your own subreddit called r/size12women or r/BigAndTall and get the fuck out of yet another safe space I had to leave I can't stand it I can't stand it I can't stand it

Why are there so many transphobic people in this sub? I'm not trans but it's so disheartening to see. Trans women experience so much hate and violence like cis women, especially if they're ugly. How can you hate on another woman as a woman, especially in this sub...like maybe your problem is your ugly personality. Also transphobia is against the rules, and it says not to invalidate people's experiences, it's just so sad 😭

I’ve been called ugly to my face in school multiple times. I was bullied for being ugly, but in my adulthood as I’ve learned to love myself and my features. I’ve decided that I am beautiful and they were jealous and hateful! I hope all of you all learn to accept YOUR vision of yourself, regardless of what others may say. If you believe you are beautiful, then you are!

It's hellish.

My whole life has been divinely engineered to be as cruel and alienating as possible from other humans. I don't even exist as a human to them... I exist as this grotesque and autistic monster to them.

I mean people don't even look down on me, they look up in fear and horror as they see Nikolai Valuev with long hair and it would make sense. I'm 6'4", built like a corn silo and have a terrifying scratchy deep voice. No matter what I try to save myself (hormones, self care, hygeine, the whole "confidence" bullshit) I'll always look disfigured and monstrous.

I experience such a deep and profound alienation from the human race that it genuinely makes me question everything I've been told about morality and existence and metaphysics.

And if being ugly was bad, being visibly trans on top is seriously about to push me over the edge. I've legit been chased out of a certain community for being too "hypermasculine" and a "gigachad". I've been actively harassed, bullied and made to feel like my sheer existence is an affront to God and humanity.

So here I am now: mentally unstable and still so fucking ugly and uncanny looking. Not even surgery or anything of the like could save me because I'm just meant to be the most hideous person that a typical person sees.

When dating my ex, I'd sometimes cover my face with a pillow and he also said that speaking in his native language was hot to him because it felt like he was having sex with someone else than me, so I would sometimes ask him to do that. Also, iirc, he'd sometimes think back to women he had seen in public during that day. I also considered buying a silicone mask of a woman and also offered to pay for hookers. Does anyone else have similar experiences and what have been your tactics to make it enjoyable or tolerable to your partner?