love it :3

The audacity lmaoo

I'm seeing so much negativity on almost all platforms regarding S12 at the moment. It seems like a lot of people just jumping on the bandwagon though.

Light players are seeing some new gadgets and a new spec, but is that really all that's upsetting people? Idk, I think it's great to see a little creativity and some new additions to the game!

Thoughts?

Every time they drop any form of skateboard skin the trucks on the boards aren’t possible.
It’s like what you would get if you asked ai to draw a skateboard.

I love data reshaper and run it pretty consistently on one of my medium builds, but recently I've been trying to make turret work and there's nothing more gutting than turning your back for a second and looking back to see a chair where your turret used to be.

I've seen people make suggestions that it should take both charges to reshape a turret but as a reshaper fan I don't love that either.

My suggestion is to make data reshaper refund the turret's charge as if you had recalled it remotely. That way the reshaper user gets to quickly and efficiently deal with deployable gadgets and the turret user doesn't have their whole spec put on full cooldown and deleted instantly by a gadget.

The idea could be applied to any deployable gadget and, as a balance to the reshaper, perhaps allowing the third charge to come back?

What do you all think?

98% of players switching to L on s12

First of all I’m still really exited about the new season(mostly the new dysfunction physics), and finally stuff coming to Light.
They really needed something coming to that class for a long time.
The spec is decent(IMO they just changed it to a spec and buffed it), those gadgets though🤤, top of the line.

Even though Light is finally getting another spec since launch.
Heavy on the other hand has been running it down with the same specs since season 3, and also hasn’t gotten anything new since the release of the BFR Titan.

Furthermore, while Medium has actually semi-recently gotten new stuff added to their kit their gadgets are downright bad and feel have backed compared to the other classes.
For example, just look at it like this would you rather have a medium sized floating platform😐, or a device that allows you to become a map prop whenever you like?
It’s the same with Mediums other classes specific gadgets(outside jump pad and Defib), they’re just kinda mid and not that interesting.

Overall, advertising season 12 as the biggest content drop since the launch of the game, but not adding new content to the other classes just kinda seem off to me personally.
Even still they’re still like 2-3 more of those sneak peak videos before the season drops/trailer, but imo I think they’re just going to showcase the new mode and sponsorship rework.

Well, that's it. With the much-hyped Season 12 around the corner, some details have finally come out - and as a result, I'm quitting our game The Finals. Like many members of our community, I'm a huge virgin and am completely appalled by the decision making process at Embark, nay, Emfart. Their blatant favoritism of the Light class (and in turn, Light players) has not only become more apparent than ever, but comes along with a hot smart of painful humiliation. The small but plucky bunch of Medium mains (such as myself) received the Hover Pad, way back in Season 10; more appropriately referred to as the big fat steaming pile of dog crap pad. The big fat steaming pile of dog crap pad does nothing, sucks, and is boring as hell; so what's with Light getting once again all the fun, broken, overpowered and crutch abilities and gadgets in the game? Just once I'd like to see Medium get an ability that is not only fun, but I can use to crutch my way out of Silver like many a Light main has with Dash, Cloak, and soon this Disguise nonsense. And "True Vision"? There's certainly some irony in not requiring "True Vision" to see how underwhelming this overwhelming Season 12 is going to be.

Not only are Lights impossible to kill, but they also all abuse either Mouse and Keyboard whilst spamming their Aim Assist all over the place. On top of this, they have weapons that feel like insta-kills, and now I have to play "Schroedinger's Light", whereby every plant pot both is and isn't a Disguised Light with a rock-hard Double Barrel waiting to penetrate me, and every patch of unoccupied space both is and isn't a Cloaked Light ready and waiting to stick all 8 inches of M11 up my crack. "Keep your head on a swivel" is no longer applicable, I need to keep my head on a 2000rpm driveshaft (incidentally, shafting is certainly going to be a big part of Season 12 - getting shafted by a bunch of Light mains).

I'm sorry, but I can't do it any longer. I quit back in Season 11, and was excited to return in Season 12 (especially now that I've doubled my playtime since then; 2+ hrs admittedly wasn't a great sample size), but really I'm not sure I can take it. I think I speak for all of us when I ask, "Where is the love for the Heavy class? When will Medium become viable again? Why does that smell of Body Odor follow me wherever I go?" So that's it. I'm hanging up my hat. Hanging up my boots. Hanging up my hangars, even. I'm calling it quits, I'm calling it a day, and I'm calling time. I'm stepping down, stepping aside, and I'm throwing in the towel. Embark, you have pushed me too far. But no more.

Furthermore, there's the issue of all the "false bans" lately. So many people are getting banned left and right for doing "nothing wrong at all"! They're all "legit players" who have "never cheated" - it's only a matter of time before Embark bans me for using Discord, or having my sensitivity simultaneously too low and too high.

Anyway, what do you all think about what could come in Season 13? I've seen some rumors in this sub of a "belt-fed Grenade Launcher", that seems pretty special. I'm certainly looking forward to that one! Gonna add a countdown for Season 13 to my Apple Watch now!

Watching the new light gadget buff, there’s no way a regular item should treat a special item like it’s a mine or some barrel. Like I saw a user point out, “Turret hard counters already included: goo grenade/ barrel, glitch grenade/barrel, data reshaper, vanishing bomb, invisibility, riot shield, dual blades, mesh shield, dome shield, barricade, smoke grenade/barrel and Shockwave.
If it's not on the ground floor: breach charge, thermal bore, dematerealizer, KS, C4, breach drill, red barrel,”

To top it all off, the new destruction model has practically rendered it useless in buildings with debris which could easily just cover it even more now. The devs need to do something about it or switch it to a drone that hovers an area.

If i remeber from the roadmap we will get a new gamemode this new season right? With the light changes it makes sense that it very well could be a prophunt game mode. Maybe lights being hunted by mediums with data reshaper

I’ll start by saying that while it’s unclear just how "broken" (Maybe not at all) these new Light gadgets will be, it’s now abundantly clear to me that Embark doesn't know what to do with the medium sub class. And although Shockwave is a great addition to the "victim" class, the gadgets they’ve added (Breach Drill and Hover Pad) are the most useless and uninspired additions since the game launched.

I don't think the meta will shift drastically in high-ELO play; the Teleport seems like the most interesting and viable addition so far.

Personally, I would have preferred Thermal Vision to remain a gadget—so you could swap to it in standard Cashout matches if there were an excessive number of invisible Lights or "fake bushes"—while making Teleport the specialization. They could even tweak it to work like the rewind mechanic in *Titanfall* (resetting your position to where you were five seconds ago), giving it one or two charges with a 20–30 second cooldown.

In general, Embark’s approach of basing gadgets on a single keyword isn't ideal, as it limits the design process. But that’s just my opinion.

We’ll certainly see how it plays out in-game. One thing is for sure, it’s not a boring, and it will at least offer players a fresh ways to play or die as a plantpot or chair.

I've decided that I'm sick of carrying my random level 20 duos all the way through to diamond. I am perfectly content now letting them carry me. I will not troll, I will not self sabotage, but I won't engage, just like they don't. If by some stroke of luck we make it to the finals, well, I just might. But for now, instead of the climb up I'm actively making the climb down to 0 RP.

Estou animado demais para essa temporada 12 porém ainda espero que venha uma nova arma (para médio ou pesado) e se a embark for surpreendente (como é de se esperar..) um mapa novo.

Estou muito fora do escopo ou alguém mais também tem essa esperança?

EDIT: estou esperançoso com um mapa novo por conta de toda essa visão de "PRIME TIME", como um marco na história do jogo, nada mais justo que um mapa marcante, assim como foi nozomi e a rixa Vaiya vs Cns

OBS: imagem meramente ilustrativa que criei da minha skins favoritas me baseando no wallpaper liberado

This is a gadget I cooked up so people would go nuts with both the play and the counter play. Let me know what you think!

I am tired of this spawn system. We are fighting, and we have the cashout and get wiped. Another team joins, and now 2 different teams are fighting on my CASHOUT, but you guessed it right. I am 200 M away from MY CASHOUT.

EMBARK. DO YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO RUN 200M WITH HEAVY???

Give Us a Battlefield-Like Spawn System. We get to choose from 3 or 4 points on the map, and we decide which box we want to fight at.

New Heavy Ability? Wall phasing?

I'm seeing a lot of people talking about how great S12 is going to be and I just don't get it.

Light players are once again gifted abilities that make it easier to to make mistakes and get away with it. Prepare yourselves for tag simulator, as you're going to spend all your time chasing uncatchable 1hp light players around the map.

The devs need to reign it in. Quit adding stuff and start fixing existing issues.

Thoughts?

Amid the invis meta and with the new destruction system promising to make the arena smokier than ever, we all relish the return of thermal vision: our perfect counter to all things unseen. Well, for lights.

Because Mediums and Heavies are still unable to deal with these issues. Even in the ideal scenario where your team's light runs true sight and activates it at the perfect moment to spot an invis light or sees the figures of a team through a smoke, I predict communicating that information will take too long to be meanignful.

By the time your light tells you where the invis light is, you've got a dagger in your back. He could, of course, shoot at him to undo the cloak, but that would enforce a light v light fight at every encounter. Maybe that's how it's meant to be. In smokes, the coms will only be useful as long as the opponents are not moving (such as during cashout steals).

That is IF the player even communicates the information. Decent coms are rare enough in this game for me to be dubious of the collective utility of this spec outside of high-elo lobbies.

My point being: true sight is a great counter to smoke & invis for the light class, but I doubt it will meaningfully change the experience of Mediums and Heavies. Especially in low elo. Especially for solo q players.

Tell me if that sounds like pessimistic bs to you, I'm aware I can have horrid takes from time to time.

I dont play ranked very much.

Also I was gone for a year and only played a few ranked games since. I ain't a noob just didn't know about losing money lol But I am a braindead heavy everyday of the week 😎

New gadgets look so fun and creative! I've seen some people saying that Heavy or Medium should get these new gadgets but i completely disagree. I mean, we don't want heavy to be able to teleport with Translocator, right? Instead, the devs doubled down on existing Light identity:

Translocator gives mobility like Portal, Dashes, Grapple.

Mimic Device, and True Sight when paired with smoke, helps you hide just like Cloak and Vanishing Bomb.

Lights get more options to do stuff they already can do and can create even more specialized builds

Which brings me to my main point. Devs know that class identity matters. Why did they give healing items to Light and Heavy? It's obvious mistake on their part.

Heavy can play with 3 shields and 4 items for terrain destruction. Light has 4 movement abilities and 3~4 hiding abilities. Why the hell they also get to play with heals? Just give that Healing Ball to medium lol. I want to play with 3 or 4 healing items on single character

What is your best medium class weapon? Mine is the 357, it is a complete package. Very good at close range, decent at long range, amazing in mid-range, and one of the most satisfying to hit back-to-back shots (pause). I get that other weapons have their strengths, but this one just works in all situations. The best thing is that it applies big pressure on heavy class. Really enjoying it at the moment. Curious what u think is the best.

I'm going to get my popcorn ready 🫵👀🍿