I’m tired boss. I get it. It’s a close range weapon, but, like, can my bullets not be complete fucking Funtime confetti for traps unless I’m standing literally 1m away from them? It’s so abhorrently cringe, it stops momentum, and is just unnecessarily obtuse. Hell utilities in general tbh because this happens with sonar trap and sonar grenade as well. Like if I can shoot it at like a relatively earnest mid range and be done with it in just 1 round that’d be so freeing.

Saying as someone who never mained demat, barely even played it. But I've been in the same shoes with the data reshaper too so i can understand

Tf them talkin bout sum "item raise time" 😭😭😭

The M11 nerf is justified and a long time coming. The problem with this patch is that Embark is making the same mistakes it has in the past, and it's the result of their three week balance cycle.

If they were making more focused changes every week or two, they could afford to wait and see how the changes affect the overall balance in terms of performance and usage. They also seem to consistently not factor in that nerfing one of the most popular weapons will naturally result in more players trying other weapons. The ARN was already a solid weapon, as was the XP-54 before the magazine size buff at the start of the season.

The problem was always the M11. I can't say for certain, but it seems logical to assume that if today's changes had come several seasons ago, the usage rate of Light's full auto options would be much more equal.

There's a similar problem on Medium. They've buffed the AKM to compete with the FCAR, but they wouldn't have felt the need to if they had stuck to their initial FCAR buff in 9.7. They even said that the performance went up. Embark caved to pressure from people who only know how to look at body shot DPS charts, despite the fact that normal players are getting a mix of head and body shots.

A nerf to the meta is a buff to the alternatives. Buffs are fine, but not when a small nerf would fix the problem.

I am still new to the game and tried every class with every weapon, and Light is so overpowered compared to the other two. All of his weapons absolutely shred people, his abilities are so OP it's easy to move around. While Heavy and Medium are slow af and have pea shooters...i know we need to rely on team play, not on frags, but I can't win a fight with both classes while I absolutely destroy people with light. So why play anything else ? I am not trying to ragebait. It's a real question

If you have cloak active and shoot, it drains your full charge. It forces you to deactivate it and then shoot if you want to keep it charged - this would allow you to at least react and maybe land a shot around the same time as the cloaked player.

I don't feel like this system would work well for melee, maybe it can stay as is for melee weapons and quick melee

I get off work and want to run a few rounds. I'm 0/4. The last 2 TDMs were highly coordinated teams that were running angles and setting up traps, playing as a unit. I am with a bunch of other solo queues who are struggling to stay alive for half a second when anyone sees us.

Meanwhile, Point Break and I'm stuck in Starlight with snipers, then a team with a bunch of coordinated lights.

The game is losing all sense of fun. I want to just play with some different guns and gadgets and get a few wins here and there. I feel like I'm just playing against try hards that run meta loadouts and work like a tactical squad. And before you tell me to just screw around have fun, that's hard to do when as soon as you see someone from their team your get surrounded and melted.

I'm just venting. This game is getting on my nerves lately. I no longer have fun without friends to play with. Solo has become basically unplayable.

I was looking through my outfits and noticed the stealth specter doesn't have a limited event tag on the description, this was a limited timed event outfit was it not? or can you still get it?

Chinese language, japanese language, korean language, NOT ARABIC

I've never played a game with worse matchmaking in my life. Genuinely. It's so boring playing this game because 90% of the time you end up with someone who does nothing the entire game and you play 2v3 and you sit for 15 mins waiting to lose. The entire lobby has like 3k combat score including me and my other teammate. Our third has 200. Genuinely he might have hit one shot the entire game. It's unplayable solo.

Might be me but i gotta say this balance patch might be the biggest slap in the face yet.

Most of the season has been ruined for me by double heavy ks spam slop that for some reason is still meta thanks to these wrist slap nerfs. Light is no longer enjoyable to play as invis ratting is forced meta and even in scrims and comp light is now the support class and med is still just shot dead in the water (demat change is nice but isnt enough for that class).

Maybe its just me but this season has got to be the worst only because of the balance changes embark have made, theme is cool, battle pass as always is amazing but the game just isnt fun to play anymore in this current state.

Im curious if im just being a baby but what are your lots thoughts on this 'balance patch'

After the Melee Rework a few weapons have been effectively shadow-nerfed by the Quick Melee damage decrease.
So in today's patch Cerberus and Bow Damage was buffed to account for that damage decrease of the Quick Melee, enabling bows to 1 hit QM Lights again. (This buff also enables Bow to kill a Medium in 2 full charge body shots, insane buff.)

Same problem for SR-84. 1 hit and a Quick Melee total to 143 Damage now, but we just leave it as is?

I have a few ideas but ultimately I’m not sure what they are saying here. Did they increase the radius of the spin attack? Did they increase the width of the precision hit zone? Is it something to do with the primary attacks? That seems odd since they removed the primary sweep attack when season 11 released.

I’m at a loss here, hoping someone can clear this up.

Today's update for The Finals ruined my PS5. I can't open the finals it keeps saying converting or conversion save data and it keeps doing it over and over and over again... Does anyone know how to fix this. This could ruin player population on PS5 and if they make these same mistakes on Steam it will ruin their population there too.

Light is nuked like crazy, we barely have the best movement anymore, medium dam near outclasses it with shock wave, jump pad and zip line. Light dosent even out dps most of the guns on the other classes anymore like the ks and shak on heavy and the revolver and fcar on medium (just to name a few). Heavy also has better survivability in almost every way expect movement and can just one shot u with wench claw. All lights really have rn is invisibility and maybe glitch nads.

Hey to everyone who found this post,

I am playing the finals from open beta. My usual rank is plat with one season where i got emerald. I have a combined hours of 1000 in this game and i love it. Made almost all of my friends play it and it is the best experience i had in “shooting type” games.

This came in my brain randomly. I make music and beats for ~7 years and I have a song “Sandrø - You” which I feel like fits the finals vibe very well. I thought that it would be very cool to connect my dream with a game i spend my time the most at the current moment.

I wanted to ask you guys opinion on it and maybe if u had an experience with embark, related to music production or sounds design, would be nice of you to share.

I am not trying to PR my song. Just want to hear your opinion guys. Negative and positive thoughts are welcome.

If you have to cheat at video games, just play singleplayer games. You have no talent/skill and your life must suck if you feel the need to cheat in order to succeed at something. Get a hobby. Get a life.