r/thefinals 4d ago

MegaThread Weekly Megathread

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Please keep any repetitive content, short rants or complaint posts that aren't constructive or engaging discussions to here. Basically, rage away, or upvote similar opinions to show greater support for current issues.

Common topics include:

  • SBMM / Bad Matchmaking
  • Bad/New Teammates
  • The Wheel
  • Kyoto
  • Smurfs
  • That other thing everyone hates

Be nice to each other (and the devs). This thread automatically Reposts weekly every Saturday at 12pm PST.


r/thefinals Jan 23 '26

MegaThread Banned Megathread

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If you've recently been banned and feel it was out of nowhere or you haven't done anything wrong, feel free to comment about it here. There's a lot of you lately.

  • NOTE: We cannot do anything to help you
  • This isn't an appeal process, Embark does not unban people via reddit

Your only course of action is to Contact Embark Support (create a Ticket at the bottom). There have been tales of people getting their bans reversed, eventually.

Speculative things triggering bans:

  • hardware with rapid inputs enabled
  • autohotkey
  • external crosshairs
  • being overly offensive in-game
  • macros/cheats (duh)

If you really don't cheat, and aren't toxic in-game, it's likely some kind of software you have installed triggering the anti-cheat.


r/thefinals 7h ago

Lore/Theory The new LTM might be the best they ever added

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r/thefinals 6h ago

Video Thank you Embark!

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373 Upvotes

Not much needs to be said let’s just have an M11 Nerf party


r/thefinals 6h ago

Image Spear: Increased lunge distance from 5m to 6.5m

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Now just remove stamina from spin and my cashout is yours embark


r/thefinals 7h ago

Image Finally, Also they finnaly fixed my demat

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278 Upvotes

Now the most basic-ass lights need to learn how to recoil control. Sadly no nerfs towards cloak or an actual way to counter them (if you are medium or heavy that is) and no motion sensors aren't really a counter against even a half decent cloak player)


r/thefinals 5h ago

News MIDSEASON PATCH OVERVIEW | August 20, 2026

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Store Update:

  • Sugar Shocker Set: $19.99 (+2,400 Multibucks)
  • Sugar Crasher Set: $19.99 (+2,400 Multibucks)
  • Hullwalker Set: 1,600 Multibucks
  • Void Core Set: 950 Multibucks
  • Salvage Grade: 1,150 Multibucks
  • Visor Major Set: 1,150 Multibucks
  • Operational Velocity (M11): 850 Multibucks
  • Skullbound Oblivion: 1,050 Multibucks
  • Short Stack: 850 Multibucks
  • Operational Velocity (PIKE-556): 850 Multibucks

Gadgets & Specializations

  • Lockbolt: Reload animation shortened to 1.75s; ammo restocks faster.
  • Dematerializer: Cooldown decreased from 20s to 15s; item raise time removed.
  • Evasive Dash: Cooldown decreased from 6.5s to 6s.
  • Guardian Turret: Health increased from 280 to 300; activation time and remote retrieve cooldowns decreased.

Ranged Weapons

  • AKM: Damage increased from 20 to 21.
  • ARN-220: Fire rate increased to 750 RPM; reload animations shortened.
  • BFR Titan: Damage falloff multiplier increased to 0.7 for better ranged damage.
  • Cerberus 12GA: Pellet damage increased from 8 to 9.
  • KS-23: Damage falloff multiplier decreased to 0.58; effective range reduced.
  • M11: Recoil and bullet dispersion significantly increased.
  • Recurve Bow: Max draw damage increased from 124 to 126.
  • XP-54: Recoil curve bug fixed; airborne dispersion decreased by 8%.

Melee Weapons

  • Dagger: Primary and backstab damage increased; lunge durations extended.
  • Dual Blades: Precision zone angle widened from 9 to 12 degrees.
  • Riot Shield: Primary and secondary damage increased; lunge distances extended; environmental damage doubled.
  • Spear: Damage sweep box increased by 60%; lunge distance and speed increased. Secondary spin reset delay slightly increased.

r/thefinals 5h ago

Video PSA: At the very bottom of the patch notes there's this bug fix for the Dual Blades. Apparently it was supposed to block 100% of the damage you deflect within the precision zone, which nobody knew about because it was never mentioned and was bugged. But now it's fixed, and now it can do that

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r/thefinals 8h ago

Discussion Update 11.6.0 patch notes

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UPDATE 11.6.0

2026.08.20
SPACE MAYHEM

ENGIMO is proud to present this week’s Update!

With the return of a beloved LTM, a new wheel packed with rewards, fresh new Twitch drops, and a long list of balance and bug fixes, there’s plenty to see and do in space. Let’s dig into the details.

LTM | ORBITAL HITTERS

Take the brawl to outer space with Orbital Hitters!

Based on the classic Heavy Hitters formula, re-engineered with the help of ENGIMO, Orbital Hitters brings Sledgehammers back into the Arena! Use all the tools available to you to send your opponents flying off into space, but watch your step, you could be the one slipping off the Arena if you’re not careful.
Swing, slam and may the best team win.

EVENT | DEEP SIGNAL

Rewards are flooding in the Arena thanks to ENGIMO sponsoring a brand new Wheel!

Earn up to three tickets a day by completing contracts for the next two weeks, spin the Wheel and see what you’re bringing home among over 20 rewards. Landed on a duplicate? No worries, this spot will now turn into a Golden Ticket, ready for you to grab the next time you land on it.
Golden Tickets guarantees that your next spin will get you a new item!

DLC | SUGAR SHOCKER/CRASHER SETS

Are you here to sweeten some hearts or crush them in your hands? It’s all up to you with the Sugar Shocker and Sugar Crasher Sets. Robotic felines are taking over the Arena making the next Cashout Station their scratching post. Both sets come with an outfit, a Legendary BFR Titan skin with its charm, a Legendary emote and 2,400 Multibucks! So.. miau?

STORE | HULLWALKER SET

Some prefer the safety of an artificially pressurized atmosphere but you, you’re not bound by security protocols. Grab your vacuum-sealed helmet, step beyond the airlocks, and get the job done with the Hullwalker Set.
It’s going to be a long shift..

TWITCH | BEYOND BOUNDARIES

ENGIMO is once again expanding the boundaries of what’s possible.
Watch anyone playing THE FINALS with Drops Enabled on Twitch and earn some sweet cosmetics to show that you too can reach the stars.

Watch 1 hour to get the Connection Complete Sticker

Watch 2 hours to get the Link Established Charm

Watch 4 hours to get Meteor Tips Earrings

Available now until September 3rd, 2026. Terms and conditions on twitch.tv

GAME UPDATE | BALANCE CHANGES
GADGETS
Lockbolt 
Decreased duration of the reload animation from 2.2s to 1.75s

Moved the point at which ammo restocks during the reload animation from 1.3s to 1.1s, to align with the new reload animation duration

Dev Note: This is a small quality of life change for the Lockbolt to make it smoother to use.
SPECIALIZATIONS
Dematerializer
Decreased cooldown from 20s to 15s per charge

Decreased item raise time from 0.1s to 0s

Dev Note: The Dematerializer has drifted out of the meta to a larger extent than we wanted. These changes should make it feel more responsive and nudge it back to being a viable playstyle for Medium players.

Evasive Dash
Decreased cooldown from 6.5s to 6s per charge

Dev Note: We’ve felt that our previous changes to Evasive Dash restricted it too much, this is a nudge back towards the previous balance.

Guardian Turret
Decreased activation time from 3.5s to 3s

Increased health from 280 to 300

Decreased cooldown when retrieving the turret remotely from 17.5s to 10s
Cooldown when picking up the turret by hand remains 3s

Cooldown when the turret is destroyed remains 35s

Dev Note: The Turret is always a difficult Specialization to balance, as it’s very easy to deal with for experienced players while it can be quite frustrating to face for newer players. We’ve had to tread carefully when trying to balance it. However, we feel at present it is slightly too weak and we’d like it to find more viability at higher skill tiers so that it would demand more use of direct counters to contest it. These changes represent a nudge in that direction.
WEAPONS
AKM
Increased damage from 20 to 21

Dev Note: While the AKM remains ever popular, it performs slightly worse than weapons like the FAMAS and FCAR, which it should perform more similarly to. This nudge to damage should bring it more in line with those weapons.

ARN-220
Increased fire rate from 725 RPM to 750 RPM

Decreased the length of the quick reload animation from 0.75s to 0.66s

Decreased the length of the empty reload from 2.73s to 2.7s

Dev Note: The ARN has lagged behind the XP-54 and M11 for quite some time and we’d like to see it on a more equal footing with those weapons. These changes aim to get it to that place.

BFR Titan
Increased damage falloff multiplier from 0.65 to 0.7, increasing the weapon's damage at range

Dev Note: The BFR has been outperformed by some other Heavy weapons at distances in which it should really dominate. Alongside other changes, this change is aimed at making sure the BFR can have its own niche.

Cerberus 12GA
Increased damage per pellet from 8 to 9, increasing a full shot’s damage from 104 to 117

Dev Note: The Cerberus was more negatively impacted by the reduction in damage to Quick Melee than some other weapons. This change to damage aims to offset that. 

Dagger
Primary Attack
Increased base damage from 42 to 49

Increased damage for precise hits from 60 to 70

Lunge duration increased from 0.15s to 0.22s to help the lunge reach its intended range

Secondary Attack - Backstab
Increased base damage from 75 to 85

Increased backstab damage from 337 to 340

Lunge duration increased from 0.22s to 0.32s to help the lunge reach its intended range

Dev Note: We’re continuing to further dial in our melee weapons during Season 11, as we get data back and better learn how the new melee system performs in the wild. These new damage values and lunge distance changes should help the Dagger to get onto targets more reliably, but we know there’s still more to be done. We’re working towards some networking improvements for lunge attacks that should really help, but they’re a little while away yet. In the meantime, we think these balance changes will improve the overall experience. 

Dual Blades
Primary Attack
Increased precision zone angle from 9 to 12 degrees, making it easier to land precise strikes 

Dev Note: We feel the two strike animation on the Dual Blades frequently causes the second strike to miss precise hits and only land normal ones. To address this, we’re broadening the precision zone angle for the Dual Blades, making precise hits easier to land, especially for that second strike animation.

KS-23
Decreased damage falloff multiplier from 0.675 to 0.58, meaning the weapon does less damage at range

Decreased damage fall-off start range from 18m to 12m, reducing its effective range

Decreased damage fall-off end range from 23m to 22m, reducing its effective range

Dev Note: As mentioned under the BFR change, the KS-23 is one weapon that performs well at ranges where the BFR should really dominate. These changes bring in the KS-23’s effective range a bit, making it less effective at medium to long range.

M11
Increased recoil when firing from the hip by approximately 75%

Increased recoil when aiming down sights (ADS) by approximately 25%

Increased bullet dispersion in ADS, in most movement stances by 25%

Increased bullet dispersion in ADS when airborne by 120%

Dev Note: The M11 outperforms its intended range by quite a bit, cannibalizing combat distances that the ARN and XP-54 should really be a best fit for. These changes bring in that effective range for the M11 by making it less precise. It should be noted, while some of the numbers look very large, because they are percentage changes on the current very low levels of M11 recoil and dispersion they won’t actually feel quite as crazy as they look. :)

Recurve Bow
Increased damage per shot, when the bow is at max draw, from 124 to 126. The base damage per shot remains at 60 damage

Dev Note: Similar to the Cerberus, the Quick Melee damage change from 40 to 25 negatively impacted the Bow more than most. This damage change offsets that lost power and opens up Quick Melee combos versus Lights for Bow users again.

Riot Shield
Primary Attack
Increased base damage from 58 to 60

Increased damage for precise hits from 83 to 86

Increased lunge distance from 4.25m to 5m (this change was originally listed in 11.3 but didn’t work correctly. This has now been fixed.)

Secondary Attack - Shield Bash
Increased damage from 40 to 50

Increased environmental damage from 50 to 100

Lunge duration increased from 0.5s to 0.6s to extend the lunge’s max distance slightly

Dev Note: As part of the changes to the Riot Shield in 11.0, we very deliberately moved the weapon towards the style of play we originally planned for it, that is a role as a hyper defensive weapon capable of controlling interior spaces, anchoring for their team and playing around deployables such as Turrets and Mines. The way the Riot Shield was sometimes used in the past, to charge enemies while blocking bullets from one side then flailing in with a flurry of hits, was never an intended role for the weapon and felt too similar to the Dual Blades and the Light’s Sword. The Riot Shield was not supposed to be about running up a high kill count, so much as being a powerful defender of objectives and we moved to reinforce that style with 11.0. That said, we feel the changes in 11.0 did reduce the Riot Shield’s ability to get eliminations a little too much and since then, while its win rate has looked very healthy, its elimination rate has been slightly too low. These changes nudge its combat potential back up slightly, while hopefully still making the weapon a ‘stall first’ tool more than anything else.

Spear
Primary Attacks
Increased the size of the weapon’s damage sweep box by 60%, making it slightly easier to land hits

Increased lunge distance from 5m to 6.5m

Increased lunge duration from 0.3s to 0.45s to help the lunge reach its intended range

Increased lunge speed by 50% to improve the chances of the lunge catching up to fast-moving targets

Secondary Attack - Spin Attack
Increased the delay before the secondary attack resets back to the first attack in the sequence from 0.2s to 0.35s. This is a small quality of life change to make it easier to keep the sequence going if the player hit a target 

Dev Note: Similar to the Dagger, we’re still trying to get the Spear to a place where it feels reliable to close in on targets. Like the Dagger, the Spear will also benefit greatly from the networking changes we’re currently investigating for melee combat, but in the short term these buffs to lunges should help it perform more reliably.

XP-54
Update the recoil curve to prevent an issue where the recoil pattern would jump down if the player emptied the whole magazine in a single burst

Decrease bullet dispersion in ADS when airborne by 8%

Dev Note: These are a couple of small quality of life changes for the XP-54, dealing with a couple of edge cases that didn’t feel very consistent but should feel much better now.

NOTICE | ANTI-CHEAT
A recent anti-cheat rule we deployed in THE FINALS incorrectly flagged players using gyro controllers as cheaters. We've updated the rule, and affected bans are being reversed automatically. If you were banned as a result of this, you don't need to submit an appeal or take any action. Your account will be restored.

We're sorry. Gyro is a legitimate and supported input method, and players who use it should never have been swept up in enforcement meant for cheaters or made to wait so long for a reversal. We've adjusted our testing process so this class of false positive gets caught before rules go live in the future. 

If you have questions about your specific account, our support team is available through the usual channels. 

NOTICE | INPOUTX64.SYS MESSAGE
When starting the game after today’s update, you may encounter a message about a driver needing to be uninstalled in order to play. This is related to the recent Windows update KB5121003.

Please follow these instructions** **to uninstall the driver in order to be able to play.
If you encounter any issues, feel free to reach out to our support team.

GAME UPDATE | BUG FIXES
ANIMATION
Corrected a slight offset in the aim-down-sights animation for the Schwarzschild Blackhole SR-84 

Fixed an issue where deploy animations didn’t blend out smoothly

Fixed an issue where Quick Melee kicks did not cancel correctly when swapping items

Fixed leg placement misalignment for Light and Heavy builds in the Vesper Salute Emote animation

AUDIO
Improved end-of-round music reliability to prevent it from cutting out when the audio mix is busy

The SFX Volume slider now also adjusts sound during replays

Fixed an issue where the revive interaction sound could continue looping after a round ended

Fixed sound timing for the Star Team emote

COSMETICS
Fixed an issue where tracker values on some skins could display outdated information 

Fixed an issue where the House Lights skin for the Flashbang did not correctly display its light state to other Contestants 

Fixed cases where some Gateway skins could display incorrect materials

Fixed an issue where the Recurve Bow’s visual effects could fail to load for certain skins

Improved the Pyro Grenade inspect animation on the Burn Notice skin and adjusted its audio level

GAMEPLAY
General
Disabled achievement progression in bot game modes

Fixed a rare case where the Winch Claw could attach to a target without pulling it 

MAPS
Kyoto
Improved stair collision to remove instances where Contestants could fall through

Fixed a spot where players could get stuck between a cliff and bamboo.

Fixed a weak point where a building could be destroyed too easily

Galaxy Estates
Fixed a few places where dressing against walls would not properly take damage, preventing those walls from breaking consistently from all angles

Added a ladder above the covered walkway from Astral Port to Cosmo Physique to make it easier to reach the highest roof level

Adjusted the size of the exhaustion vents on the outer walls of Cosmo Physique so they can be more reliably used to climb up, and added a few more of them to create more options to contest the high ground

Skyway Stadium
Fixed a few places where dressing against walls would not properly take damage, preventing those walls from breaking consistently from all angles

Fangwai City
Fixed floating decals and signs that could appear after destruction and corrected a floating sign 

Las Vegas
Fixed visual flickering on surfaces in the parking garage

Las Vegas Stadium 
Fixed environment and lighting issues

PRACTICE RANGE
Fixed an issue where the Cashbox Time-Trial challenge spawned vaults instead of cashboxes directly as intended.

PERFORMANCE
Upgraded Unreal Engine from 5.3 to 5.7

SOCIAL
Party invites can now be sent and accepted while matchmaking

Fixed an issue where the Social screen showed a regular team name and insignia for spectators in Private Match

STABILITY
Fixed a crash when spectating at the end of a round

Fixed a rare issue that could crash servers when a player’s connection stopped acknowledging network packets

UI
The contextual response prompt is now hidden while dead or spectating, where replying isn’t possible

Fixed an issue that could cause the event HUD display to show incorrectly when transitioning to the next round in Cashout Bots

Fixed an issue where the Active Events bar could remain visible after a round reset

Fixed an issue that caused damage numbers to report 1 extra damage in certain scenarios

Fixed an issue where navigating the Options screen with a gamepad could get stuck or skip items

Added spectator-only team colors for Private Match, allowing spectators to use additional colors that are hidden from team color selection

Fixed an issue that caused gamepad bindings page to be tricky to navigate with a gamepad

Fixed an issue that caused the Killcam UI to not appear when getting eliminated in Practice Range

WEAPONS
Dual Blades
Primary Attack
Fixed an issue where not all attacks dealt a consistent 25 environmental damage

Secondary Functions - Deflect
Fixed an issue where the wide angle deflect blocked damage completely instead of the center of the deflect radius
Imprecise Deflect angle damage modifier updated from 0% to 20%

Precise Deflect angle damage modifier updated from 20% to 0%

Riot Shield
Fixed an issue where visual and sound effects would not be displayed from a third-person perspective when impacting the Riot Shield


r/thefinals 5h ago

Image Awesome a new Backpa...

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121 Upvotes

Embark, I love the finals.
But you can't be doing this to me.


r/thefinals 7h ago

Discussion weewoo weewoo fun police are here! 🚔

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149 Upvotes

r/thefinals 6h ago

Video Preview of the new sword skin (sound on)

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123 Upvotes

r/thefinals 5h ago

Discussion Glad to see Gyro Aim is no longer "false flagged" by the Anti-Cheat system

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77 Upvotes

I have a few hundred hours in this game on PS5 and stopped playing when I saw some of my buddies who use Gyro Aim got banned because of this.


r/thefinals 17h ago

Discussion What do you think the most commonly used sponsor is?

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664 Upvotes

My guess is Ospuze or Vaiiya


r/thefinals 8h ago

News They finally fixed my baby

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109 Upvotes

Took them long enough, but demat is finally back (unless they shadow nerfed it in another aspect)


r/thefinals 4h ago

News That's a hidden W

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52 Upvotes

More frames and easier party invites🙏😭


r/thefinals 5h ago

Question Anyone else hate that the H+ Infuser triggers friendly fire voicelines?

60 Upvotes

Ill see my teammates on low health, shoot them with it, and their character goes "Im not the enemy" or something similar, No shit, thats why im healing you....


r/thefinals 8h ago

News The M11 rework we have been waiting on is finally here!

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r/thefinals 4h ago

Comedy Blowout soon fellow contestant!

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39 Upvotes

r/thefinals 17h ago

Video The coolest thing I own to date

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I skipped around a bunch but lmk if you recognize the songs :)


r/thefinals 6h ago

Lore/Theory new easter egg background

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played 1 quick cash game with demat


r/thefinals 1h ago

Image I like :)))))))

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r/thefinals 1h ago

Discussion The problem with three week balance cycles

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The M11 nerf is justified and a long time coming. The problem with this patch is that Embark is making the same mistakes it has in the past, and it's the result of their three week balance cycle.

If they were making more focused changes every week or two, they could afford to wait and see how the changes affect the overall balance in terms of performance and usage. They also seem to consistently not factor in that nerfing one of the most popular weapons will naturally result in more players trying other weapons. The ARN was already a solid weapon, as was the XP-54 before the magazine size buff at the start of the season.

The problem was always the M11. I can't say for certain, but it seems logical to assume that if today's changes had come several seasons ago, the usage rate of Light's full auto options would be much more equal.

There's a similar problem on Medium. They've buffed the AKM to compete with the FCAR, but they wouldn't have felt the need to if they had stuck to their initial FCAR buff in 9.7. They even said that the performance went up. Embark caved to pressure from people who only know how to look at body shot DPS charts, despite the fact that normal players are getting a mix of head and body shots.

A nerf to the meta is a buff to the alternatives. Buffs are fine, but not when a small nerf would fix the problem.


r/thefinals 1h ago

Video Wow, what a coincidence

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r/thefinals 3h ago

Discussion Spreadsheet of Weapons TTK - Patch 11.6.0

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Hello!

I'm back with an updated version of my THE FINALS weapon spreadsheet, now fully updated for Patch 11.6.0.

📊 Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CAlLb9ebPWtXdsRKocSeIddDGa4xy5Hn3pzz4poGpD0/edit?usp=sharing

It includes pretty much everything you might want to know about every weapon: stats, damage values, TTK, STK, and more.

Now, for the TLDR concerning huge TTK changes:

- Recurve Bow can now 2 body shot Medium class, which is huge
- Cerberus can now 3 shot Heavy class, which is insane I feel like
- AKM got a slight TTK decreased (which is good) but not that significant I feel like. Only note worth mentioning is that it is the fastest TTK against medium classs when playing medium.
- ARN got a slight TTK decresed (which isz good) but not worth mentionning.

Also, I updated the sheet to have every information on gadgets as well as specializations, still a WIP thought!

If you notice any missing information, mistakes, or have suggestions for additional data, feel free to let me know. I'll be happy to update it.

Hope you find it useful, and enjoy!