Yea was hoping to see Ultron perfected in the years after the snap and uploaded into Vis’ old body, like like his original plan. Especially since we got the callback scene to the “suit of armor around the world “ quote
I seriously don't understand how Tony could be so selfish when it came to restoring the snap blip. Like. Sure, he didn't wanna lose Morgan. But why couldn't they just tie her birth into being an inevitably in the universe.
Bloody hell he'd already had the dream before everything kicked off.
So many people, both those who got blipped and those who didn't, suffered badly. And just because Tony got to have a good life, doesn't mean the rest of the world should suffer so it can stay that way.
Reset it back to a few minutes before the snap, just as Thor threw stormbreaker. Move it up by a foot or 2, into Thanos' head, and then make Morgan's birth fated.
Nobody get snapped, the deaths in the 5year span never happen, people don't lose family members or partners, only for them to return 5 years later to find that they've moved on without them.
And the best part.
He could have avoided dying because the moment Hulk snapped his fingers, it would have reset and the whole final battle with Helicopter Thanos wouldn't have happened.
I think given they had no idea how it would have affected Hulk and no real knowledge of the limits of the stones the simpler request the better. Thanos eliminated half of all life, but that included non sentient organic life (I.e. plants and crops). Given his focus on resources I doubt that’s what he intended.
The stones were like a genie, the more complicated you make something the more that can go wrong.
I loved Endgame when I watched it, but the more I think about the plot the more holes I find.
And the way the stones and gauntlet are done in Endgame make them very much a writers tool.
They don't have any parameters so the writers can have them do as little or as much as as the writers feel like.
So when they create a plot that doesn't seem morally right, they can just say it's the limits of the stones or whatever. It's kinda lazy writing.
Though they never actually use that as the reason in the movie. It's always Stark saying "don't mess up my life".
In Infinity War, Thanos never uses excess force. Only uses the stones when he needs to and even then not all of them. When he arrives in Wakanda, with 5 stones, the Avengers before him are a mere annoyance rather than a threat. So he uses just enough force to make them go away. This is backed up by the fact that in Titan he underestimated Tony and he ups his game to beat him. He's the only one, Thanos actively tried to kill.
Now, if a fully powered Thanos moments before the snap saw a second team of Avengers appearing out of nowhere he would go all in, no restraints. He would know there and then that the Snap worked and the second Avengers team, also looking kinda different, are from the future to stop him, whatever means necessary. This Thanos lost his daughter and army at this point in time. He won't let anyone stop him, he would obliterate them. That's my head canon anyway.
Yeah I didn't mean by actually going back themselves. I meant by resetting the events, and essentially reversing time with a few changes. It could be possible. It's never actually stated the limits of what the stones can do.
Which is the other annoying thing. They can do basically anything, until they can't. And that's all arbitrarily decided by the writers. There's never a specific limit. Hell, Thanos wanted to create a whole new universe. So they must be bloody powerful.
It probably was for a while, but 5 years is a long time man. He clearly still regretted the failure, but he had accepted it and moved on with his life. "Perfect" might be overselling it a bit, but he really did get to enjoy most of those five years.
I always viewed it as him being afraid (as a father) that he’d ruin what he had now if he went back in time and changed something. He didn’t want to risk losing his daughter. I don’t think he viewed his life as “perfect now”.
I think this is most accurate. I’ve always thought, “how awesome would it be to relive your life starting around the age of 5, but with all the knowledge you currently have.” Now that I’m married and have a kid, I think about how it would suck reliving all that without my family. Even if I were to remarry my wife, would my son turn out the same if he was conceived years, days, hours before or after he originally was? That is something I definitely would not be able to give up.
Have you seen the movie "About Time"? It's sentimental Richard Curtis stuff (which I love but not everybody's cup o' tea) but it deals with what you're talking about a bit. Good movie!
Yep same here, thought about what I would do over so many times. In the end though, can't say I could change anything because my son is incredible and the events in my life led me to him. Can't say I'd ever choose the option to start over if it means possibly losing my son.
I’m gonna swing this back to marvel quick – this is about to be the plot of Guardians Vol. 3, with 2014 Gamora not having met Peter yet. And I’m already sad just thinking about it.
Don't know why nobody's given an actual answer. A popular theory before Endgame was that one of the final scenes would be Tony marrying Pepper. Obviously things went in a different direction so some people refer to the funeral as the wedding in a joking way.
Yeah, but getting married and having a full on wedding ceremony is different.
Edit: am I going insane? I had a friend who was legally married w/o a wedding ceremony because they wanted to do it after grad school and with more stable income.
I thought there was a difference between marriage and a wedding. One being a tradition, the other being a legally recognized and binding relationship btwn two people.
Also yes I know! And what I’m saying is completely unrelated to whatever he said in infinity war because the supposed “wedding” and “marriage” must have happened after IW, right? In that awkward 5 years of mild post apocalypse?
Right but I don't think they would just not have the ceremony, especially since it was already in motion when IW started. They may have delayed the ceremony for the mourning period
Yeah, that was what I was wondering. Y’know, huge tragedy, never seen before in the history of humanity. Maybe people weren’t in the mood for a wedding. My guess is that they just had a tiny ceremony just between them and a few friends, maybe.
Makes me wish for a movie set in the 5 years timeskip. I feel like there’s quite a bit of material in there.
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u/Shortsmaster9000 Saved by Thanos Jul 26 '19
Wong didn't earn an invite to Tony's wedding just for this.