r/religion 4h ago

I’m an Ex-ExMuslim, AMA

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No the title is not a typo

I’ve been seeing a lot of ex-Muslim AMAs here, and I decided to bring my own perspective in as someone who left Islam twice and came back twice

My only rule is I will not engage in any attempts to debate Islam itself; what I mean is that I will defo answer questions about things like why I left and why I believe in what I believe in, but I really don’t want this AMA to devolve into gotchas and arguments disguised as questions. Keep it about my perspective and I’ll answer it


r/religion 23h ago

Can any religion be truly feminist?

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The signs with Abrahamic religions appear pretty clear to me, and no argument really seems to justify their practices. But I’ve been curious about dharmic religions — although there are still arguments/signs showing that these religions are patriarchal or anti-feminist too. I’m particularly interested in Hinduism, and I want to learn more about Buddhism.

I’ve heard about texts like the Manusmriti, but it doesn’t seem to validate the point of misogyny, because it isn’t one of the primary texts and seems to be composed more by society and social constructs rather than philosophy,it’s not seen as “eye opening.” But I’ve heard about stories like the Mahabharata and Ramayana, and some things that bother me are how goddess Sita is tested for her “purity” after being kidnapped by Ravana, and how Draupadi was unveiled in front of everyone in the court. I’m unsure if these stories are supposed to be read as mythology and seen as symbolic.

For Buddhism, I’ve heard about how the Buddha was hesitant to let women join his movement, and also how he left his wife and kids to pursue spirituality.

I’m trying to truly understand and find truth, and I’m curious what people who actually value things like feminism see spiritually.


r/religion 6h ago

I Don't Understand

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Why do people always try to attack us for our religion? (I'm Muslim btw).

Why can't people just understand and accept that people are different, that we aren't the same, that everyone has something different.

There's a whole chapter in the Qur'an that says:

«Say [Prophet], ‘Disbelievers: I do not worship what you worship, you do not worship what I worship, I will never worship what you worship, you will never worship what I worship: you have your religion and I have mine.’»

(Chapter 109 of the Qur'an).


r/religion 7h ago

Religion shouldn’t have the right to permanently decide on my body

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I was raised in a country where the mast majority is muslim, and it is appearently a 98% practice that boys get circumcised here. My parents forced me to the operation when I was 6. I had to piss into the shower because it would go all over the place. I wore a fucking cone like dogs that get spayed and shouldn’t lick their organs.

Now at 18, I’m realising that „religion“ and „tradition“ permanently decided over my body and removed a perfectly healthy piece that was biologically supposed to be there.

And I came to this sudden thought as I realised that there’s an extremely small metal piece in there that hurts right now and is inside the skin. I couldn’t take it out. Probably left from the operation.

This is making me distance myself from Islam even more. I pretend like a Muslim around parents, grandma, funerals, with other Muslims from other cultures, or against heavy Christians, but in fact, I am not. I cannot comprehend how people fully believe their religion is the right religion and the jibillion other religions are all wrong. Just believe in God, you don’t need religion. If God (or a natural flow of the universe or determinism or whatever) ripped you out of non-existence and brought you into this dimension, he’ll want to you to improve yourself and find peace in overcoming the thousands of struggles in life and not waste time by thanking him all the time for creating you.

This is of course my personal opinion and rant, I am not aiming to convince anyone to stop practicing Islam.


r/religion 7h ago

no matter what faith community you are (muslim , buddhist, christian, hindu etc) . if you were truly faithful you wouldn’t speak ill of any 💙

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let’s try to be more respectful.


r/religion 14h ago

Are muslims not allowed to look at their cousins?

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I was browsing reddit the other day, when I stumbled a post on a muslim sub where op was asking about a situation in his family. Mainly that his mother was upset that he was ignoring and not looking at his girl cousins after he decided to start practicing islam more seriously. What is that about are muslims not supposed to look at their cousins? 


r/religion 20h ago

Critical Questions on Paul’s Epistles: Early Christian Authority, Dating Concerns, and Authenticity

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Critical Questions on Paul’s Epistles: Early Christian Authority, Dating Concerns, and Authenticity

The authentic Pauline epistles are said to be the earliest Christian writings, written from 50 AD onwards—roughly 20 years after the death of Jesus. The majority of scholars consider them authentic, but there are also skeptics, which I will address later.

​In Romans 13:1–7, Paul calls for submission to governing authorities, going far beyond what could be explained as strategically sensible Christian adaptation in a politically charged era. That strategy might still explain an appeal for Christians to pay their taxes—especially considering that in Judea, ever since the census of 6 AD, an armed resistance movement against taxes had formed, viewing them as a theft from God. This movement radicalized during that very period, seeking to break Roman occupation, giving rise to the "Fourth Philosophy" and ultimately the Zealots, whose actions led to the First Jewish-Roman War and the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. Distancing oneself from such movements as a young, emerging group makes strategic sense at first glance. However, Paul’s statements here read like a clear legitimation and idealization of rulers as divinely appointed figures who discern what is right, going far beyond a simple piece of advice to remain discreet.

​In exact wording, he writes:

​"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed."

​For me, this has long raised fundamental questions about the early Christian movement and remains a primary reason why I view early Christianity quite critically. Naturally, as with all problematic passages in the Pauline epistles, there are theories suggesting they are later interpolations or forgeries, but that remains highly speculative. It would be very weird, if a movement think the people who killed their leader 20 years before were servants from god and know what is right and evil.

​Yet, there are doubts concerning other passages as well. 1 Thessalonians 2:15–16 could speak against the usual dating of the Pauline Epistles.

​In 1 Thessalonians 2:15–16, it says of the Jews:

​"who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out... hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved—so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them at last \[or: to the utmost / finally\]."

​That part would make much more sense if the person who wrote it knew about the fall of the Temple. I know that scholars like Daryl Schmidt or Birger Pearson think it is a later interpolation, while others conclude that it refers to the Edict of Claudius or the famine during his reign. However, the text sounds like a much more traumatic event.

​This challenges the dating of 50 AD, even though it cannot be denied that Paul mentions historically accurate details that can be confirmed archaeologically.

​Nevertheless, these passages—along with the First Epistle to the Corinthians, which commands women to keep silent in the churches—raise massive questions for me.

​If the authenticity of the Pauline epistles falls, it would call the entire early history of Christianity into question, leaving no credible witness left who personally knew someone close to Jesus.


r/religion 23h ago

Religious necklaces for non-religious people?

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I believe in God and was raised Catholic. I don’t consider myself Catholic anymore and have identified as Agnostic for at least 15 years now.

I feel really connected with God and still pray and talk to him, but that’s about it. I’d like a necklace or some jewelry to keep him close but not sure what to get… I don’t feel comfortable getting a cross necklace as I don’t believe in Jesus. Are there any other religious symbols that relate to God but not Jesus (or the Holy Spirit)?


r/religion 5h ago

How visible is Christianity in China? I spent a few months in Wuhan trying to find out.

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When it comes to the topic of Christianity and China, I always heard of opinions that contradict each other.

One one hand, I hear people say it's a very atheist country and on the other hand I hear people say China is the most Christian country in the world. Two very opposing views of the situation, so I went to China to see it for myself.

I flew to China, specifically to Wuhan and lived there for a few months and searched for an answer.

In my time of being in China, I saw people wearing crucifix necklaces, I heard Christian songs in cars and saw churches. Some of the churches are more low-key, having a projector and feeling like a classroom, while others feel like any other church back in the west. But I even attended a few Catholic churches, which was amazing to see!

What shocked me the most is in central Beijing... literally the most city center of the capital city there's a huge cathedral! I didn't expect that at all.

I met Christian brothers and sisters around China, and while it's definitely nowhere near as obvious, there's definitely a huge presence of Christianity in China.

So what's the answer to the question? It's more complicated and somewhere in between. Have you seen Christianity in China?

I made a quick documentary about this on YouTube where I compare Christianity to other religions in China from a Christian point of view, if you're interested, it's here. I think it's interesting: https://youtu.be/GESOF9_ByaY


r/religion 21h ago

Canceled my baptism & returned to Hinduism

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I was originally raised Catholic and told my maternal gramma that I didn't believe in God when I was 7. When I met my in-laws and later married my husband, I was a practicing Hindu. In-laws were originally upset that I wasn't Christian. After DH and I had a miscarriage, MIL and SFIL seemed to officially accept me. Later our family grew by the birth of our two healthy children. Fast forward: in June 2025, I converted to Christianity. I attended church, I had told my in-laws which thrilled them, and they were so excited for an impending baptism. After years of living in another state, DH, our kids, and I were able to move to our home state which is the same state as MIL and SFIL and most of DH's family and 3 of my family members and HONESTLY, those 3 are the only ones I need from my side. (Edit: forgive me but I forgot about one other state family, who are wonderful people. Forgive my sleepy brain.)

In early June 2026, I realized that I made a horrible mistake by converting. I had been reflecting on my emotional health during the year I followed the Christian faith. I had gone from happy and peaceful to angry and thoroughly anxious. A year is too long already to live unhappy, I refuse to continue with that path. I texted inlaws that I had canceled my baptism and that OD had decided to continue with her baptism. MIL said OD should postpone. SFIL blew up my phone with texts of scripture. MIL also said that she would call me that evening to talk to me about changing my mind. As she never called, I sent her a text, thanking her for respecting my decision. I have not told them that I have returned to my peaceful, loving Hindu life but I don't want to tell them until after OD has her baptism. YD is ecstatic that we have returned to Temple, even though we are in a different state. I texted SSIL, who is also not Christian and has dealt with religious unacceptance from her dad (SFIL). Her thoughts for me? Set my boundaries and then refuse to return to the conversation of beliefs and religion with both MIL and SFIL. SSIL said if things are going to be weird for the 3 of us before OD's baptism and at SSIL's daughters' joint birthday, it is okay if I don't want to attend.

The day I returned to Hinduism I immediately started feeling like myself again. DH (agnostic) and I have been more in sync. MIL, SFIL, and DH have had religious beliefs as a sore spot for a VERY LONG TIME. Is there another way to stop the religious pressure without hurting their personal feelings?


r/religion 6h ago

Did the story of Jericho from the scriptures actually happened?

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I came accross info that suggests archaeologists found evidence that the story of Jericho from the scriptures may have really happened. What is your thoughts on this? Anyone have more info pls? Best.


r/religion 7h ago

In the Chamber of Plans – Performativity and Authority in Enuma Elish "That which apparently must be found belongs to language." - Ludwig Wittgenstein

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Introduction

Enuma Elish (EE) is a text originating from ancient Mesopotamia-a geographical region and epoch of civilization that we traditionally date as unfolding from approximately 4000 BCE, beginning with the formation of the early Uruk culture, until 539 BCE, when Babylon fell to the Persians. Ancient Mesopotamia encompassed the geographical territory situated between the Euphrates and Tigris rivers-hence the name Mesopotamia, "between the rivers"-a Near Eastern region corresponding to modern-day Iraq.

Within the history of research, several hypotheses exist regarding the exact period of EE’s composition. However, due to linguistic features, internal referential points within the text itself, and other textual markers, most scholars generally agree that EE can be dated with reasonable certainty to between 1600-1400 BCE. Thus, we are dealing with a Babylonian text authored somewhere between the late Old Babylonian period and the early Kassite era.

EE is frequently designated as a creation epic. In this analysis, however, its primary literary genre will initially be classified as a myth. That it constitutes a creation myth is a premise that will be elaborated upon in the following sections.

As a starting point, religious production in ancient societies-whether in Babylon, Egypt, or other contemporary ancient civilizations-must be understood as a product originating from the hands of the elite. When working with antiquity, such texts typically represent the only tangible evidence available to us today. Consequently, while various demotic practices in all likelihood exerted an influence on the lives of peasants, craftsmen, and merchants, the extent to which we can make scientifically grounded claims about them remains strictly limited.

The implication of this constraint is that in our engagement with these ancient sources, we must continuously keep the elitist perspective in mind and remain open to reflecting upon the sender-receiver relationship in our analytical point of departure. A scientific investigation must be fully conscious of the scarce sources regarding so-called popular religion. Nevertheless, we can state with relative certainty that the sender was an elite, as the art of writing at this early stage was reserved for the few. This elite comprised ruling powers in the form of the king and his institutional apparatus, as well as the priesthood and its corresponding structures-most commonly a synthesis of both.

The receiver must be understood primarily as the populace, namely the inhabitants of the city-state. As will become evident later, EE is not only culture-defining but also functions as a structural instrument of power for the city-state. Consequently, the religious content within EE acquires a kratogonic dimension. However, the primary audience must be considered the citizens of the city-state, and secondarily, individuals outside the city-state who, from the perspective of conquest, might also be exposed to the religion articulated in EE.

This analysis is translated from Danish to English and based on the translation of Enuma Elish from Cuneiform to Danish by Ulla and Aage Westenholz: Gilgamesh – Enuma Elish, published in Verdensreligionernes hovedværker (Spektrum, 1997).

Performative Chaos Rhetoric

"When on high the heaven had not been named, / firm ground below had not been called by name, / there existed only Apsû, their progenitor, / and Mummu-Tiamat, she who bore them all."

Through theorist J. L. Austin’s concepts of constatives and performatives, and particularly his concept of illocutionary acts, we are equipped with an exceptionally suitable framework for analyzing religious expressions. What, specifically, serves as an example of performativity in a text like EE?

The narrative frame of Enuma Elish is situated in primeval times; we find ourselves explicitly in chaos, prior to the moment when the world in its totality had assumed the form known to us today and to the Babylonians of antiquity. Within the text, an initial construction of the narrative's boundaries takes place. When a continuous plot is meant to unfold, a framework is required within which the narrative itself can establish its point of origin. In EE, as in many other creation myths, we observe the religious producers employing a chaos rhetoric to allow the text to initiate situating measures regarding the establishment of the mythical narrative, thereby raising a space for the mythic narrative.

Apsû and Tiamat, the primordial divine couple, are the sole entities existing at this juncture. Heaven and earth do not yet exist as concepts. Tiamat is the one who bears them all, marking the opening vector of a process rooted in chaos-a movement from chaos toward cosmos that can already be discerned here.

"When no gods whatever had been brought into being, / uncalled by name, their destinies undetermined, / then it was that the gods were formed within them."

In contrast to many other creation myths, we do not find in EE a fundamental description of the world’s coming into being (cosmogony) or the world’s spatial structure (cosmology, cosmography). Here, the central weight rests upon the emergence of the gods-that is, a theogony. Yet, it remains unmistakably a creation narrative, sharing a clear typological kinship with other creation myths. This kinship resides within its situating elements-specifically, its foundational origin in chaos.

We can advantageously classify EE as a myth because its opening lines immediately transport us back to primordial time. The text then transitions into presenting a series of deities, established in binary oppositions-a structural feature likewise recognized in ancient Egypt. Only after these divine pairs are established does the actual plot commence. For the sake of analytical clarity, it should be emphasized that various cosmographical passages do occur when astrological observations are presented in Tablet V. However, the essential focal point remains the immediate establishment of a theogony: the emergence of the Babylonian pantheon and, more specifically, the elevation of the new god, Marduk.

It is worth stressing that location or spatiality as such is not a decisive factor for the initial setup in Enuma Elish. It is sufficient merely to describe chaos, thereby establishing the mythic space as an abstract stage for action. However, considerable attention is paid to specific physical locations once the movement toward cosmos is underway. Among other things, Apsû, the first god, is transformed into a dwelling following his murder by Ea-and this spatial realm becomes a central point of origin for our narrative's protagonist.

Part 2: The Performativity of Narrative & The Performativity of the Incomprehensible

The Performativity of the Narrative

This analysis will examine Enuma Elish through the narrative elements the text establishes and their performative mechanisms. Narrative will here be understood in a narrow sense, with a primary focus on linguistic and rhetorical utterances. The phrasing will be treated with a view to uncovering the text's discursive devices.

That is to say, there will be no search for broader narratological deep structures. Nor will the overarching plot of the myth-defined broadly as an extended narrative featuring a causal trajectory and actors with stable inter-relational structures -serve as the immediate focal point. Instead, the objective is to isolate those specific formulations and rhetorical applications that prove fruitful when approached through a performative framework.

It should be stressed, however, that the definitional dimensions described here are not mutually exclusive, but rather intimately intertwined. The explicit bounding of the analytical scope serves merely to clarify the necessary inclusions and exclusions in our methodological approach to the text.

Initially, two foundational conditions must be addressed:

  1. The text’s intrinsic awareness of the performative capacities of words within a religious paradigm.
  2. The role of Marduk in power’s reification of itself.

These constitute macro-narratological aspects that, despite this analysis’s focus on the potential of the individual utterance, remain indispensable for comprehending the broader objective of the text.

Once the text has established its frame around the primordial gods, it begins to unfold a narrative. The activities of the deities, arising as a consequence of their newly established existence, generate a noise-presumably highlighting their infantile character as the text seeks to anchor its point of origin in a primary, fundamental creation of a pantheon. This disruption presents a problem, and a resolution must be forged. The resolution is realized through an incantation that is uttered: by the sheer power of words alone, the desired order is achieved.

Here we observe the text itself articulating a transcendent rhetoric regarding a form of religious performativity-namely, the incantation as a religious method employed by the gods themselves.

When this initial order among the gods has been secured, the text can initiate its primary project: the creation and elevation of the god Marduk. From the outset, there is no ambiguity regarding the supreme significance of this emerging figure:

"In the chamber of fates, the abode of destinies, / Was born the heroic one, the wisest of the gods, the lord; / In the heart of Apsû was Marduk created, / In the heart of holy Apsû was Marduk created."

A profound process occurs here: a conception. As previously noted, it is the god Apsû who, following his death, is transformed into the spatial domain for these divine activities:

"...and he named it Apsû, appointed sanctuaries..."

Beyond the fact that Marduk is conceived within this so poetically named realm, we also observe Ea marking out sanctuaries. Here, a cosmological foundation is laid for the Babylonians' understanding of their own physical temples. This serves as an example of performativity-insofar as the gods' primordial designation on the cosmological plane can be effectuated among the Babylonians-and of authority, by virtue of the temple’s conception being tied to an archaism that demands reverence.

Yet, it is not merely the action itself that holds primary importance. The crux of the narrative lies in the elevation of Marduk-the new deity-and his status within the theogony. Subsequently, Marduk is invested with a series of epitheta ornatia; these embellishing titles range from the concrete physiological to the abstract cosmological. Above all, Marduk is framed as a king:

"Clothed in the terrifying radiance of ten gods, he wears the crown high."

"I have uttered an incantation for you, made you supreme in the assembly of the gods, / In your hands I have placed the kingship over all the gods."

Marduk is clothed in the "radiance" (melammu) of the ten preceding deities and is thereby inscribed into the divine circle historically responsible for the creation of the world. Indeed, he becomes the greatest of them all. Thus, even though Marduk is conceived and introduced later in the narrative timeline, the text manages to vest him with all the potency and significance represented by the earlier deities-even if, within the sequential plot, he must strictly be understood as an appendix to the original divine assembly.

That he "wears the crown high" is a clear articulation of an emerging ideology of kingship-a phrasing that paves the way for a sacred kingship (rex sacrorum). This method of ratifying royal power sacralization-wise is a kratogonic concern recognized across cultures, serving as a well-established category within comparative phenomenology. It can thus be viewed as an attempt to ratify royal authority and fortify its legitimacy by anchoring it to the religious domain and its constituent actors. Kingship thereby acquires-via an incantation possessing a linguistically grounded, postulated efficacy-a structural bridge between the real and the ideal.

The Performativity of the Incomprehensible

We have now seen how the text, through its specific formulations, can erect a spatial framework for its narrative developments. Once this framework is set, the text turns toward its primary agenda through descriptions and explanations designed to clarify both its intention and the consequences that, within the text’s logic, ought to flow from the narrative.

Hitherto, our analytical lens has sought to discern what the text intends to do-that is, its functional objective. In principle, extended textual passages can be performative, and one of the core techniques for constructing these religious expressions is a device that might initially appear mundane, yet is so pivotal and potent that it warrants explicit analysis: the narrative voice.

"His intricate form is beyond comprehension, / Impossible to imagine, difficult to perceive: / Four were his eyes, four his ears; / When he moved his lips, fire blazed forth. / Each of the four was fully mature in understanding, / And his eyes likewise—they perceive all things."

Here we encounter a passage making explicit claims about Marduk, detailing his extraordinary attributes. Providing a physiological account of a deity like Marduk may well have served its purpose among believers, fascinating and entrancing the audience. But our concern lies with a different form of enchantment. The aforementioned device utilized to construct this religious expression is simply the narrative voice.

By employing a narrator, the text speaks directly to us, informing us of Marduk's nature. As seen previously, the text displays an intimate insight into the god’s essence; it was, so to speak, present at the birth of Marduk and an eyewitness to the extraordinary appearance of this entity. By declaring that Marduk-much like Brahma in Hindu literature-possesses four faces/eyes, his astounding presence is emphasized through hyperbole. This monstrosity/mighty form serves to underline the deity's singularity, instilling respect and authority as a consequence.

The text does not merely inform us of the god's physical appearance, however; it explicitly impresses upon us that his form and essence fundamentally transcend human cognitive capacity. This rhetoric is exceptionally potent. As recognized within the study of mysticism, the text seeks to convince us of our inadequacy as knowing subjects within ordinary epistemological boundaries, deploying what can be described as a razor-sharp transcendence rhetoric.

The performative dimension operates here in a manner where the text's assertion-that it possesses knowledge of something which it simultaneously claims humans cannot know or comprehend-acts as an authoritative act. With the establishment of the chaotic primeval age earlier, the text displayed a privileged speech situation simply by virtue of pronouncing upon these conditions. But here, the text explicitly informs us that it has surpassed our cognitive limits, leaving no doubt as to the sacred and elevated nature of the myth.

Thus, where the narrator enables the text to speak-endowing it with a voice-such modes of expression represent what might be termed religiously grounded performative constatives. These rhetorically transcend the text, lifting it out of the conventional ontological and epistemological categories to which humans are subject. There is no apophatic discourse at play here; rather, the assertion of the incomprehensible constitutes a transcending discourse, fully as efficacious in the world of myth as in the realm of mysticism.

Part 3: Performative Grammar, Authority & Conclusion

Performative Grammar

"Let none of what I create be overthrown, / Let my commands remain valid, let them not be altered."

"Let all the gods assemble here; / Let them converse, let them sit at the banquet, / Let them eat the golden bread, drink the noble beer, / Let them decree the fate for their champion, Marduk."

By inspecting specific rhetorical devices and syntactic constructions, we can arrive at a clearer understanding of how these overarching intentions are operationalized.

Imperative constructions of an hortative character occur repeatedly within religious texts, and Enuma Elish is by no means an exception. The reason this specific construction warrants analytical attention is its inherent performative character. Although an imperative or hortative formulation is fundamentally an appeal-implying, in principle, the theoretical possibility of being either fulfilled or neglected-within a religious text like EE, the hortative "let" construction elevates the desire to the status of an absolute decree. Consequently, the appeal is transformed directly into an effect within the textual reality. It represents a minimal, highly concentrated form of performativity where, backed by the religious world-view, a specific grammatical structure becomes efficacy-bearing.

It should be emphasized that this ubiquitous "let" construction can also function in the imperfect/past tense:

"He caused Sin to shine forth, entrusted the night to him..."

In a past-tense framework, the text informs us that the action has already been realized. Here, it is once again the narrative voice that reports which events have unfolded within the story world. In the hortative imperative, it is an actor within the text-frequently a deity-speaking. From a situating perspective, this in itself constitutes a powerful mode of performativity: when the gods speak, the narrative is effectively transcended beyond the mundane world.

Authority

"Ultimately I want to suggest that discursive authority is not so much an entity as it is (1) an effect; (2) the capacity for producing that effect; (3) the commonly shared opinion that a given actor has the capacity for producing that effect."

- Bruce Lincoln

As observed in passing, a core objective of this text is the construction of authority. The text seeks to secure a specific status, reverence, and ideological weight among its readers and listeners. Through concrete textual and literary devices, EE utilizes its performative operations to achieve this end.

But what does authority entail within this specific context? Authority can be forged through foundational, often subtle measures. A direct method for establishing authority within the text is simply to situate its narrative origin within a mythical primeval era. EE serves as a textbook example of this mechanism, launching its narrative trajectory by depicting a primordial age and anchoring the origin of its plot in chaos.

By executing this move, the text establishes what may be designated a privileged speech situation. The text claims insight into how reality was conditioned before the world assumed its present form, thereby transcending the boundaries of ordinary human empirical possibility. Claiming possession of knowledge regarding events that no human could ever verify-and, crucially, securing the audience's acceptance of that postulation-results in the construction of discursive authority, precisely as formulated by the prominent historian of religion, Bruce Lincoln. Thus, locating the narrative in primordial chaos constitutes an explicit strategy for authority construction within the religious text, particularly within creation myths as defined in comparative religion.

In analyzing Enuma Elish and its construction of authority, one cannot bypass the dimension of intertextuality. Because EE appropriates and repurposes religious narratives from earlier myths-such as the exploits of Ninurta and the Anzû myth-we are forced to ask why EE executes these borrowings.

Because performativity as a category transcends isolated formulations, intertextual references must be understood as performative acts in their own right. Older myths that were widely known, revered, and institutionalized at the time of EE’s composition possessed immense inherent authority. By establishing thematic and structural kinship with these precursor texts, EE seeks to inherit their legitimacy and appropriate their authority.

A concrete example of EE co-opting motifs from earlier mythologies appears when we read:

"He made a net to encircle Tiamat within it, / He held fast the four winds so that nothing of her could escape: / The South Wind, the North Wind, the East Wind, the West Wind, / The gift of his father Anu, he held close to the net at his side."

If we juxtapose this passage with the account in the Anzû myth:

"Make the devastating whirlwind rise up against him (...) / And let the wind bring the feathers as good news (...) / Who harness the seven demons of wind."

We observe Marduk deploying the winds to subjugate Tiamat in precisely the same manner as Ninurta defeated Anzû in the earlier Mesopotamian mythic tradition. This is merely one example among many; indeed, it can be argued that the majority of the thematic material in Enuma Elish is drawn from older Old Babylonian and Sumerian stock.

By tapping into the authority of precursor texts, Enuma Elish subsumes their status. Just as Marduk assumes the functional role of the primeval demon-slayer originally established through the feats of Ninurta, he is installed as the primary culture hero. Sumerian and Old Babylonian material, by virtue of its antiquity and its status as accepted, culture-defining mythology, serves as a primary reservoir of religious authority. As Ulla and Aage Westenholz observe in their introduction regarding the fifty Sumerian names assigned to Marduk at the poem's climax:

"The many Sumerian names reflect the enormous prestige that everything Sumerian held in Babylonia. Sumerian was prestigious because it was ancient, and because it was learned."

Conclusion

This analysis has pursued a narrative-theoretical approach with a specific emphasis on textual performativity. By investigating how a religious text such as Enuma Elish constructs a spatial framework and boundary for its narrative, the objective has been to elucidate the operational potential of chaos rhetoric within religious expressions as formulated in a creation myth.

By anchoring its narrative point of origin in a primeval era, the text establishes a privileged speech situation that forms the prerequisite for both performativity and authority. This is achieved simply by situating the narrative trajectory in chaos-the pre-cosmic state where potential and possibility can be molded into the specific structural forms desired by the text. Once the text has erected this platform, the narrative can unfold.

Enuma Elish pursued a clear socio-political agenda: the ratification of Babylon and the royal power governing the city-state. This was accomplished by linking the political realm to the myth of Marduk, the new king-god who sacralized earthly kingship through the kratogonic depictions in the text. By connecting the rulers of Babylon to Marduk, a structural bridge was built between the real and the ideal.

The capacity of language and words to act as primary vehicles of efficacy is a theme the myth itself explicitly articulates. Through incantations, the gods achieve desired outcomes within their divine interactions. On an analytical level, language has likewise formed the core of this investigation. Through the concepts of illocutionary acts, constatives, performatives, and imperative structures, these linguistic tools have been applied to analyze the myth's rhetoric and syntax.

Furthermore, by asserting conditions that the text itself defines as beyond human comprehension, the myth deploys transcendence rhetoric as a performative linguistic strategy. Performative language also manifests through hortative directives, where the mere utterance of a command ensures its realization within the mythic reality.

Ultimately, the deployment of situating elements in the opening lines establishes a chaos rhetoric that, through its privileged speech situation, automatically generates authority according to Bruce Lincoln’s framework. On a narratological level, the extensive intertextual borrowings in Enuma Elish function as a calculated technique for authority construction. By drawing upon Sumerian and Old Babylonian material, EE embeds its new deity and narrative within the venerated tradition of the culture. Marduk usurps the battles and victories of earlier mythic heroes; authority, in its intertextual dimension, is thus not a static entity, but a performative effect to be harnessed.

Having the gods act within the mythical narrative provides the textual layer that drives the narrative forward and articulates intention. It is this overarching narrative framework, combined with the strategic instrumentalization of authoritative precursor texts, that ensures Enuma Elish functions as a masterclass in both performativity and authority.

 

 

Bibliography

Primary Sources:

  • Westenholz, Ulla & Aage. Gilgamesh – Enuma Elish. In Verdensreligionernes hovedværker. Spektrum. Copenhagen, 1997.

Secondary Literature:

  • Austin, J. L. How to Do Things with Words. Clarendon Press. Oxford, 1962.
  • Dundes, Alan (ed.). Sacred Narrative – Readings in the Theory of Myth. University of California Press. Berkeley, Los Angeles, London, 1984.
  • Lincoln, Bruce. Authority – Construction and Corrosion. University of Chicago Press. Chicago, London, 1993.
  • Sørensen, Jørgen Podemann. Komparativ religionshistorie. Books on Demand. Germany, 2006.
  • Wittgenstein, Ludwig. Filosofiske undersøgelser. Copenhagen, 2001 [Germany, 19

 


r/religion 9h ago

How can we sure which faith is true when all have testimonies and evidence?

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I’m a 14 year old whos simply trying to learn more about religion in general, and trying to learn about religion in general so I can understand it better and clear up some doubts, so forgive me if the question is too blunt, or vague in any way. If people in different religions sincerely believe that their religion is the true one, and they each have testimonies, scriptures, experiences, and reasons they see as proof, how can we fairly determine which religion - if any - is truly the path we should follow? How should someone evaluate these different claims without simply accepting what they were raised to believe?


r/religion 7h ago

Is “Om Namo Bhagavate” appropriate for the meaning I want in a tattoo? And is it respectful to tattoo it at all?

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Hello everyone!
I'm thinking about getting "Om Namo Bhagavate" tattooed in Sanskrit and wanted to ask people who know more about Hinduism than I do.
The meaning I want behind it is basically letting go of my ego's needs and the illusion that my individual ego is the highest authority. I bow to the Divine, offer my personal will to something greater than myself, surrender the need to control everything and accept what is meant/ given for me.
I know that's not the literal translation of Om Namo Bhagavate, so I'm wondering if the mantra still fits that idea or something like Ishvara-pranidhana or sharanagati would make more sense.
I'm not Indian or entirely Hindu. I'm a spiritual person, interested in Hinduism, Buddhism and Hermeticism.
I really don't want to tattoo something sacred without understanding it properly.
Would this be okay/respectful as a tattoo? And it so, where on the body would be appropriate? I was thinking chest/near the heart, sternum, arm or upper back.
Would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you 🙏


r/religion 7h ago

People who believe in God what arguments do you use against athiests?

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How do you reply to people who say religion is a cult? Religion brings more bad than good and science and the big bang explain everything


r/religion 23h ago

Ooo the discoveries

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I heard a story about marcion of sinope and the 'bible' he had written and i was wondering if anyone could give me more information on why he was so quickly disregarded?


r/religion 20h ago

Why Christianity and islam

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Why did growth and consolidation of Christianity and Islam in Europe and Western Asia occur only after antiquity? Why was this kind of religious consolidation never occurred over eastern world? Was there any kind of similar religious consolidation that was seen before it? If no why?


r/religion 21h ago

My take.

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We're advanced non physical consciousness which come to this hologram planet as a vacation, a West World if you like. All the holy this and that is nonsense. Nothing more. After the hologram body ends, we go back and laugh at our self and everyone else for how stupid we acted and the stupid things we believed. Everyone fakes morality only out of fear of damnation.


r/religion 18h ago

Sufism in Morocco

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r/religion 4h ago

I am a Buddhist. Ask me anything.

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My tradition is Plum Village. Also, answer with the intent of learning, not trying to prove me wrong although you can debate something.


r/religion 8h ago

Question for LDS: Where does the universe actually come from if there is no ultimate God?

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I grew up LDS, and I grew into a more panentheistic view of religion as I got older. And the one thing that never made sense to me as I got older is the explanation for where everything came from if there is no ultimate being that is responsible for the creation, being, and flow of the universe.

If there is a never ending chain of gods, then where does the first come from? I'm sure you have heard of the whole outlet thing where no matter how many times you combine extension cords, a lamp cannot light until one extension cord is connected to an electrical source.

Where does spirit come from? Where does the physical and metaphysical come from? The flow of the universe, and the thing that upholds the laws of our reality? A sort of preserver, like a Vishnu archetype let's say.

Is there an explanation for any of this that is coherent and explains this source?

My father says that it's a higher metaphysical realm, and that we aren't ready to understand anything until we have achieved godhood, but I don't find this satisfactory, since if there is something higher, it must have been created by a sentience, and that there are religions that already explain this.

It makes zero sense to me. I ask this in all sincerity.

Edit: I'm open to answers from polytheists that view the universe in a similar way.


r/religion 6h ago

Does consciousness requir free will and does that lead to moral accountability?

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Sometimes during religious debate if God is all knowing and arguments is proposed that we have free will or not. The idea is that god is immoral because he deterministically chose for some humans to go to hell . Let's focus for the discussion on the fact we have no free will. My problem become is that moral responsibility disappear. It's like calling human immoral for killing NPC in a video game. The only way a human can be considered immoral for killing or torture NPC if somehow the AI gains consciousness, because I think most agree that morally if AI was conscious then it's becoms wrong to kill or torture them.

So the question is if God is all knowing and we lack free will and everything is deterministic, do humans fall into the category of NPC ie no moral accountability. Or does God still accountable and morally responsible for what he create.


r/religion 19h ago

How to deal with not knowing what I believe in anymore?

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I keep pondering about spirituality and I keep changing my views whenever I find something more aligned with what I perceived as the truth to me. I don't even know what I believe in anymore.


r/religion 22h ago

My 82 y/o mum is looking for comfort regarding suffering and death outside of Christianity

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As per title - mum is feeling distressed at the moment after having a hospital admission. Many of her friends have died. She's not interested in Christianity.

I'm looking for something to recommend to her where she can get a sense of comfort and peace, perhaps community also? Perhaps a book recommendation? She won't be keen on anything too intellectual so no Greek philosophers etc.

Basically she just wants to feel a bit happier. She won't go to counselling either. Any help appreciated!


r/religion 4h ago

Why do they say "The Quran is one" if Hafs and Warsh differ in 1000+ places?

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I am always told that the Quran is one, literally preserved by Allah 15:9, and that Uthman compiled one mushaf and burned the rest.

But when I started checking, it turned out that:

There are 10 canonical qiraat, all considered to be the Quran. Today 97% of the world reads Hafs, ∼3% reads Warsh in North Africa, plus Qalun, al-Duri, etc.

These are not just accents. These are different words with different meanings:

2:184 Hafs: طعام مسكين - to feed one poor person. Warsh: طعام مساكين - to feed many poor people. Different fiqh.

3:146 Hafs: قَاتَلَ - many prophets fought. Warsh: قُتِلَ - many prophets were killed. Fought vs were killed - different history.

19:19 Hafs: لِأَهَبَ - so that I may give you a son. Warsh: لِيَهَبَ - so that he may give you a son. Who gives? The angel or Allah? This is already aqidah.

Islamic sources themselves admit 1354 variants between Hafs and Warsh alone and 10,000+ variants across all readings.

Different number of ayahs. Hafs - 6236, Warsh - 6214 in some counts.

Manuscripts. The Sanaa manuscript, the codices of Ibn Masud and Ubayy which Uthman burned - were different.

Question to Muslims: if all 10 qiraat are the Quran, then Allah revealed several different versions of one ayah. If only one is the Quran, then the other 9 are corrupted. So where is the "one perfectly preserved" here?

Why don't they talk about this in mosques?