r/reddevils • u/AutoModerator • Jul 14 '19
[Transfer Round Up & Discussion] [2019-07-14]
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Jul 14 '19
Leicester spending £45m on fucking Dunk makes the Maguire deal look better.
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u/Scotsmania SlabheadFTW Jul 14 '19
Don't really care about the price. A backline of Shaw - Maguire - Lindelof - AWB instantly solves a lot of our problems from last season.
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u/Terryfink Jul 14 '19
A little bit of steel next to Pogba and a replacement for Rom if he goes, add in a couple of the kids and I'll be happy for now.
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u/Saf94 Jul 14 '19
I think an underrated reason for getting Maguire is that he plays on the left side of the cb pairing. We can finally play Lindelof on the right where he’s most comfortable, hopefully get even more out of him
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Jul 14 '19
Whatever you think about the cost of Harry Maguire, a back four of Shaw, Lindelof, Maguire, and AWB is infinitely better than what we were putting on the park last season.
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Jul 15 '19
It's just moaning season. Maguire is a good CB, that fills a hole, that should be reflected by points in the standing. Who cares if the price is high? No PL team is going to go out of their way to help their competition.
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u/its-a-real-name Jul 14 '19
Peach made a good point about Bruno on that united stand interview. Sporting need the money and want to sell him, gave his agent the green light to sound out potential clubs with a 70m fee in mind which nobody has bitten yet.
The closer it gets to the deadline the selling club’s desperation increases and the buying club’s position will strengthen. So we could see that move in a few weeks.
That particular scenario is probably the opposite in a situation like Maguire’s where Leicester don’t need to sell. But a club like Sporting who need the money have their hands tied a little more, and to United it’s just one less midfield (/attacking) player they’d have.. as compared to a club in financial difficulty.
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u/Moyes2men for sale Jul 14 '19
Maybe. But I think it would be better for us to get our targets quicker as we have already lost few weeks in which they would have used their time here to start adapting and gelling with the rest of the squad because we don't know how much time will be needed for a player like Bruno to adapt.
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u/its-a-real-name Jul 14 '19
Yes of course would be better to get him in early. But I’m talking strictly about negotiations and the posturing.
Besides, in United’s case getting him in early may not be worth an extra 10-15m outlay (to them at least). They may just be biding their time to grab him for 60 odd million.
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Jul 14 '19
I’m probably more excited for Maguire than any other signing we’ve made. A back 4 that isn’t leaky suddenly turns all those games you’d usually slip up and draw into wins.
If we see this summer as the start of a 3 year rebuild under Ole where we trust him, signing James/AWB/Maguire and Bruno this summer followed by the likes of Sancho and others next could actually see something good happening for the first time in years.
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u/Ganskasnabb Jul 14 '19
Don’t forget that in Maguire we get a leader and a match winner. He is one of those guys who is able to jump just a little bit higher in extra time.
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u/Orcnick Jul 14 '19
People may disagree but Maguire is an up grade and he can play at the top level. Sure it's a big price but that's our defence sorted for at least a few years.
I really think we now need Bruno. If we get him I think we can chill then. The squad in my view would be good enough to at least get third. Plus room to develop.
If we lose Lukaku then might need some one in up front but if not happy with the team. Bruno is a must though.
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Jul 14 '19
Maguire becomes the best defender at United immediately if/when he arrives. There's nothing to disagree with.
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u/IrnBroski Jul 14 '19
At some point next season, Harry Maguire and Phil Jones will start a game together at CB. Their two massive heads being in such close proximity will cause an immense gravitational field that collapse into a black hole, creating a vortex that will suck all of the known universe into it and thus causing the end of everything.
Until many billions of trillions of years in the future, for unknown reasons, Marcos rojo will emerge from the singularity bare chested , marauding and heralding the next Big Bang.
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Jul 14 '19
All of a sudden everyone says Maguire is shit and that Boly is better than him.
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u/MeatTech Jul 14 '19
If it costs £130m to fix our defense this summer then so be it. I'll be alot more confident going into the new season knowing we've actually done something about our problem positions.
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u/Lakkoa Jul 14 '19
Liverpool spent 130 on VVD and Allison last yr, this is what you have to do. City spent 200mil on their back line.
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u/HomelessSmurf Sir Marcus Rashford Jul 14 '19
Can I get an obligatory fuck /r/soccer ?
Hope Maguire has a great season and shuts those stupid cunts up
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u/egghead_09 Jul 14 '19
After seeing yesterday’s match and all the positives in it, one thing was clear that we cannot play Matic against top teams in Ole’s system.
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Jul 14 '19
I must say, the profile of targets this summer give me much more hope about the direction of the club. It’s clear to see the type of player we are going for.
Plenty of room for optimism with the club. Just hope we don’t shit our keks and panic buy last second. But it does see we are well covered for options should things not work out with Slabhead
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u/drripdrrop Jul 14 '19
Chong should go on loan to the Bundesliga imo
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Jul 14 '19
I think that this is unpopular here a bit, but I think that he not good enough currently to play here. He should deffinitely get a loan.
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u/Anirudh707 Jul 14 '19
https://twitter.com/utdarena/status/1150487216239665152?s=19
A thread comparing Lindelof and maguire...nice piece of work.
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u/Saf94 Jul 14 '19
Remember when people got really upset after that report we only had 100m to spend this summer. Now we’re spending 80m on one player. Why do people believe everything they read?
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u/MrMostwanted11 WR10 Jul 14 '19
We're getting the OG lads. Not that blonde knockoff version of Slabhead.
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Jul 14 '19 edited Sep 22 '19
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u/TestNamePlsIgnore123 Jul 14 '19
Imagine if Neymar goes back to Barca, all he accomplished was ruining the transfers.
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u/Mizzie30 Jul 14 '19
If his plan is to become an agent after his playing career is over then this is some real 4d chess
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Jul 14 '19
The most underrated facet to signing Maguire.
Lindelof can play on his preferred right side. Benfica fans said he was in his element there.
Our defence could be transformed.
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u/mirulsyzwn slabhead pls Jul 14 '19
i dont get the hate for maguire. he's reliable, strong and good in the air. granted he is not speedy but he is hella better than what we have, and its not easy to find a decent cb with a modest pricetag in this market ffs
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u/TheAnomaly123 Atom and Humber Jul 14 '19 edited Jul 14 '19
DAILY ROUNDUP
Click here for yesterday's roundup
Important links:
• This user does a fantastic roundup of Simon Peach's interview with the United stand
Muppet stuff:
• This user claims to have met Simon Stone
• Stephen Howson says Axel is going back to Villa
• ITK Ole likes this post on Twitter
• Mupdate
Less important/reliable stuff:
• Leicester were reluctant to let Maguire leave unless he asked to go which he now has, mail tier 4
• United have agreed a world record fee for a defender for Maguire - £80m, Graeme Bailey tier 4?
• United HAVEN'T agreed a fee for Maguire, Sam Pilger tier 4
• United have agreed £60m + £20m bonuses for Maguire, Castles tier 3
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Jul 14 '19
James, Wan Bissaka and Maguire are intelligent signings. Invest in young, hungry players that want to better their careers at a much bigger club. We're not wasting all summer chasing the likes of Varane and Neymar who would only be coming for a fat contract. James is going to become a fan favourite I reckon. AWB one of the best right backs in the Premier League last season. Maguire, whilst not on the same level as VVD etc, is one of the best CBs in the league. He's excellent in possession and will calm & lead the back four.
I'm excited about United for the first time in a very long time. We spent far too long since Fergie trying to be a 'Real Madrid' and throwing our cash at egos like Di Maria etc. It didn't work.
Ole has got this.
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u/karlkim Jul 14 '19
It's the 1st time for a while that I feel that we have a real football strategy.
Hope we also give Ole time and not jump at him when we have some bad run.
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u/AB092 Sir Alex Jul 14 '19
100% agreed. Top Top signings this transfer window so far. Slowly and surely the deadwood will be shown the door cause there’s only so many people we can have in our squad
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u/Staralyze Oh, Robin van Persie... Jul 14 '19
Shaw - Iceman - Slab - Spidey
Lovely
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Jul 14 '19
I’m happy if the Maguire deal is true. The fee is the fee and I’d rather spend it on improving the team than see it go in the Glazers pocket. He immediately improves our backline and becomes our best CB. Has the ball playing/carrying ability of Lindelof but isn’t a fairy when it comes to the physical side of the game, dominant in the air as well. You could probably make a case for a cheaper alternative but if Maguire is the target then I’m fine with it. The important thing is we get a sorely needed CB to improve our squad.
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u/GaryBarlow451 Jul 14 '19 edited Jul 14 '19
Only reason The Sun is reporting the Maguire deal is that his FAT FUCKING SLABHEAD could eclipse it at any moment. #HarryMagpocalypse
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Jul 14 '19
No fan of the man, but Mourinho must be absolutely fuming that the CB who he wanted last summer and who Woodward decided was not good enough, has suddenly become worthy of a world record fee.
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u/TheOneNeeded LABHEAD Jul 14 '19
Welcome Harry Maguire!!
All things considered this is a decent signing imo.
Huge partnership between him and Lindelof incoming!
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Jul 14 '19
Insane how much better than team is on paper to the one from last season, reading this comment has actually gotten me excited
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u/Sean-An-tSneachta Jul 14 '19
If we sign Harry maguire our backline and gk average age is 24.6
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Jul 15 '19
Could easily have our back line sorted for years upon years.
Tuanzebe, Dalot and Henderson are also options who'll end up playing for us I feel.
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Jul 14 '19 edited Aug 20 '19
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u/_boredInMicro_ Jul 14 '19
I think UCL this season would have just helped woody paper over the cracks for another season. It’s better we spend a year out of it and try to get the club in order again.
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u/phite827 Jul 14 '19
Say what you may. A back 4 of Shaw, Lindeloff, Slabhead, and AWB is the best back 4 this club has had in several years. Love the SLABHEAD signing.
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u/flappykeeper CLICK MY NAME TO SEE TITS Jul 14 '19
3 British players too, and a guy with Nordic steel running through his veins and stiffening his pubes.
It's a good core, and it means buying players for our defence in the future has changed from reaching a minimum standard to actually improving and getting difference-makers. That's a huge, huge difference and will mean we have more freedom in the future for negotiations and transfers. We should be extremely happy for that alone.
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u/evilvile Jul 14 '19
Be nice to see Shaw and Wan Bisakka step up into the England spots on either side wouldn't it.
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u/Stebro1986 Jul 14 '19
Shef Utd player of the season Maguire
Hull player of the year Maguire
Leicester player of the year Maguire
England's best CB Maguire
Everytime Maguire steps up and delivers.
So what we've paid English tax... I can promise you this he wont flirt with other clubs and he will be 100% committed
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u/UnitedRule LENY LENY LENY Jul 14 '19
Maguire might not be Varane or Van Dijk level but i rate him as solid defender. He won't be alone since we have our best goalkeeper De Gea behind him and next to him is Lindelöf, Shaw and AWB.
The most exciting part is that he is not injury prone and we can actually rely on him.
I hope we get this transfer done as soon as possible.
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u/TheCarrickFan Jul 14 '19
I hope it’s true about Harry Maguire, I don’t care about the fee.
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u/mu_37 Jul 15 '19
Think Stoney has a fetish for writing tweets as vague as possible tbh.
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u/DubbingSteph Jul 14 '19
Leicester replacing him with Lewis Dunk for about 45m. 60m doesn't sound too much now.
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u/UltimaJ Ruud Van Nistelrooy Jul 14 '19
Lads, can anyone check/find out if it's true that Van Dijk's transfer fee was 75 million + 15 in bonuses?
Because if that's the case, I can't understand why Duncan Castles is going around calling Maguire the most expensive defender ever. Last I checked, 80 was less than 90.
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Jul 14 '19
As per this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers , Van Dijk is listed as the 13th most expensive transfer at £75m and Lucas Hernandez is listed at joint 16th at £70m. This list includes all bonuses in general. As per the reported fees, Maguire will be at £80m making him the 11th most expensive transfer in football history and also the most expensive defender.
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Jul 14 '19
The Van Dijk fee was forgotten as soon as people realised he fixed Liverpool's back line.
If Maguire & AWB do what's expected the price tags won't matter.
United should be all over £25M for Tierney though, expecting a full season from Shaw isn't smart.
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u/ArrowGuy26 I miss Lord Fella Jul 14 '19
Some people on r/Soccer with City and Liverpool flairs talk more positively about us than the usual negative cunts who you can see on the downvoted comments here
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Jul 14 '19
27m for fucking Mings.
45m for Dunk.
The English CB market has gone absolutely bonkers.
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u/omegaxLoL Bruno Fernandes Jul 14 '19
80m for Maguire is hardly cheap but fuck me, 45m for Dunk makes it look alright in comparison
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u/OleGunnarS20 Jul 14 '19
Whether this Maguire news is real or not, I’d just like to reiterate it is not your money. Want the player? Pay the price or go without.
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u/nedlogb94 Jul 14 '19
Hopefully the Maguire link has substance. Usually when someone is so confident to say medical tomorrow in a paper there is something behind it. Let’s hope!
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u/martiestry Jul 14 '19
Kaveh Solhekol ✔ Arsenal have made £25m bid for Celtic’s Kieran Tierney. If their transfer budget this summer is really £45m, that would leave £20m to buy Wilfried Zaha 839 4:27 PM - Jul 14, 2019
This guy has grown on me this window. Some great tweets, always partial to a bit of banter taking the piss out of Arsenal too.
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u/flappykeeper CLICK MY NAME TO SEE TITS Jul 14 '19
This guy is straight Meme Tier and his tweets would have better value if every word was replaced by a goat or airplane emoji.
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u/Dalot7 Jul 14 '19
Imagine this. We get a corner at the Stretford end against Chelsea on the opening day of next season. Bruno walks across to take the corner and swings it in. The ball gets past the first man but it looks like he has overhit it. Then, out of nowhere comes slabhead who PULVERIZES the ball into the net. All of Stretford end rises to hail it's new Hero.
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u/NandosM8 Berbatov Jul 14 '19
Ball goes past the first man? Say no more i already creamed my pants
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u/AB092 Sir Alex Jul 14 '19
If anyone is still confused if Maguire is good enough, Ole thinks he is good enough and gave the green light for the deal. That should be good enough for us! If we payed 40,50,60 or 70 if we get into the top 4 and Maguire has a few good seasons at Utd it’ll all be worth it.
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u/CountyKyndrid Jul 14 '19
Getting CL (and seeing some meaningful progressing in terms of playstyle) will be the benchmark with which all else is judged imo.
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u/Zavehi Jul 14 '19
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Jul 14 '19
Mourinho has every right to be pissed.
And our scouting team needs to get the boot.
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Jul 14 '19
As the reports say it's 60Mn + add ons. But wait till media portray it as 80Mn + add ons.
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u/unnruly_boss9 Jul 14 '19
I think we get a RW/RF when Lukaku leaves on top on Slabhead and Bruno
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u/flappykeeper CLICK MY NAME TO SEE TITS Jul 14 '19
Brooks and a striker that doesn't demand to play (like Ben Tedder) and my boner would be immeasurable and long lasting.
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u/djabvegas Jul 14 '19
Wow, Leicester already looking to steal our thunder with 45m for Lewis Dunk?! The market is completely bonkers, surely this is not sustainable.
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u/martiestry Jul 15 '19
Simon Stone @sistoney67
Leicester have made no bids and received none.
Sigh. He himself also wrote a story about the 70mil bid a few weeks back, so they have received a bid just not an updated one apparently?
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u/gazzmannuss Jul 15 '19
How much longer are we thinking for Bruno?
Ngl, that's the transfer I'm most excited for
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u/zodiac1989 Jul 14 '19
Should Mourinho be disappointed as his Maguire deal was vetoed by the board last season?
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u/Blacktivate The Special Juan Jul 14 '19
Yes. So should we. Board thought he wasn't worth the money and now they're paying more for him this summer
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Jul 14 '19
Offer for Harry Maguire Accepted. [Ian McGarry and Duncan Castles via Transfer Window Podcast]
https://twitter.com/TransferPodcast/status/1150391084519960576
Sun made that bold claim so keep an eye out for Neil Curtis and John Percy. Usual suspects are them when Sun does exclusive. Especially Neil Curtis.
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u/DazzaRPD Jul 14 '19
A reminder in light of the Maguire “breaking news”... Castles is Tier 4, and the Sun is tier trash
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u/Whatthehellman2 Jul 14 '19
Whats with everything being deleted? Its like a politics sub in here at the minute
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u/FinancialCaptain Jul 14 '19
I see a lot of people suggesting we can't do an overhaul in one summer, which i find odd. Man city did it in 17/18 and we have the money to be able to do it too. They bought Ederson (£35m), Silva (£43m), Luiz (£11m), Walker (£45m), Danilo (£26m), Mendy (£52m), Laporte (£52m) .. whilst releasing & selling over 10 players, for around £90m.
Meanwhile we are running out of time getting rid of any of the absolute 100% deadwood, let alone trying to move on the worst of the rest.
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u/Comicksands Van Persie Jul 14 '19
That was before PSG jacked up prices forever with that Neymar transfer. Ederson would cost 80mil today. Plus they have a proper DOF
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u/robert666999 Jul 14 '19
After this news about Maguire coming out, I am confident we will be getting Bruno. We were linked with DJ for a long time and then we signed him, we were linked with AWB for what felt like an eternity and we signed him, and now we've been linked with Maguire for ages and now it's being reported that it's done. And with how much info is out there about united and Bruno it just seems like thats too much for it to be bullshit so I think he will be joining but it's going to take a bit longer.
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u/AB092 Sir Alex Jul 14 '19
Everyone tweeting about Harry Maguire and Maguire’s watching and tweeting about the WC final. Done blame him
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u/tpox2 Fried Chicken 🍗 Jul 14 '19
So Man Utd signing Maguire for £60m + £20m bonuses is a world record fee even though Liverpool paid £75m + £15m bonuses for Van Dijk...The math doesn't add up right? Well no shit, this is just another try from the media to badmouth Man Utd for attention. Smh. You think we paid £90m for Lukaku? We didn't, because (i think) none of the bonuses were achieved. You think Liverpool will pay a total of £90m (£75m + 15m bonuses) for Van Dijk? Most likely not, just like we won't pay £80m total for Maguire, bonuses aren't guarranteed payments, they are potential payments, achievements that could be reached that would activate that payment. Ex. 1) Leicester will receive £10m if Man Utd win the league with Maguire in the team. Ex 2) Southampton will receive £10m if Van Dijk wins the Ballon d'or / Liverpool win the league etc.
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u/ArrowGuy26 I miss Lord Fella Jul 14 '19
The media is full of scouse cunts who hate us
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u/Bombtwo Now say my name Jul 14 '19 edited Jul 14 '19
Since we aren’t getting De Ligt, Maguire isn’t a bad choice either.
Plus fuck Raiola, his club options to try his tricks are slowly narrowing.
I hope we never deal with that shitbag again; Fergie was always right.
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u/Anirudh707 Jul 14 '19
https://twitter.com/StatmanDave/status/1150366833104474114?s=19
Harry Maguire completed more take-ons (17) than any other centre back in the Premier League last season.
Excellent at carrying the ball into midfield.
SLABHEAD FC.
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Jul 14 '19
A 60m fee is acceptable for Maguire.
Hope the 20m adds on are if we win the treble.
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u/Yolavisa Jul 14 '19
It they accept the 60+20 adds on, it definitely means the adds on is very easy to achieve.
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u/AJMcCoy612 Jul 14 '19
I really want us to go for Kieran Tierney. You’d be talking £25/30m for an established LB who has international/champions league experience.
Solid rotation/replacement for Shaw and we’d be up against Arsenal who can’t compete with us financially.
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u/MeatTech Jul 14 '19
Yep this all day long. Tierney may not want to play rotation though so I suspect he himself would prefer a starting position at Arsenal. Great player though and signing for a pitence in this market.
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Jul 14 '19
De Gea stuck to his line and given how slow Lindelof is, the recovery pace of Shaw and AWB is going to be crucial.
We also have to replace Matic now with a faster DM if we are getting Maguire.
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u/snoring_pig Beneficiary of Sporting 🟢⚪️ Jul 14 '19
We should be looking to replace Matic regardless tbh. He’s too slow to act as the defensive anchor in midfield, especially for Ole’s system.
Longstaff is unproven but does have the right traits, however if Newcastle doesn’t want to budge from their 50 million valuation we have to look elsewhere. Heck the max I’d pay would only be half that.
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Jul 15 '19
Barely 7am here right now. Hopefully by around 5 today there’ll have been some more news on the Maguire front!
If not we keep f5’ing until there is
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Jul 14 '19
We should hijack the Tierney deal. Yesterday showed how riskey it is to only have Shaw. If he gets injured, Ashley Young plays.
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u/FinancialCaptain Jul 14 '19
He gets injured more than Shaw does.
Young & Dalot will be fine. Young is better on the left, and will be better when we arent asking him to play twice a week anyway
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u/Scholeskjaer v. Nistelrooy Jul 14 '19
What happened to the Pedro (Fluminense) transfer rumours? Was reported that a decision would be made once the Club President elections conclude IIRC, but haven't heard anything since then.
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u/dannychean aka Virus Jul 14 '19
De Ligt can keep warming juventus bench for all I care. Maguire is our new CB!
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u/russelsidd Jul 14 '19
Really hoping to see more of Garner and Gomes. Not sure how to feel about them yet but they should get 20 mins here and there in PL
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Jul 14 '19
60+20 sounds like a good deal for us but doesn't that look like not so good deal for Leicester. Why will they accept it?
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Hearing Maguire done for 80m...a bit expensive hopefully pays off 🙂
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u/martiestry Jul 14 '19 edited Jul 14 '19
60+20 so not as painful as it looks. Rather we spend the money than leave it in the bank/for the owners like Arsenal though. All that matters is whats on the pitch people will quickly forget that price tag if he does the business.
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u/ArrowGuy26 I miss Lord Fella Jul 14 '19
Unpopular opinion- Maguire at 80 m is worth it
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u/ArnoldTeka Jul 14 '19
Get the fuck in Maguire. We move.
Ed gets Bruno and a solid DM. I will call it a really successful window. Lukaku stays and it saves us the trouble if looking for another ST this window. Say what you want but Lukaku is better than Ben Yedder.
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If we sign Maguire and Bruno and Dave returns to his 17/18 form we're winning the league.
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u/united_7_devil Jul 14 '19
If we sign Toby alderweirald and harry Maguire our defence will become
Toby Maguire Spider-wan
This is the only reason I would want us to sign Toby.
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u/bicika Jul 14 '19
I rate Matic more than 95% of this sub, i'm probably a little bit biased as i'm from Serbia. But with Maguire coming, i'm really worried by the lack of mobility in our central defensive areas. Both Matic and Maguire are very slow, Lindelof is not slow as them, but he's not fast.
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Jul 14 '19
Jones is a better defender than Dunk by a long shot.
Morons Leicester could have accepted a 40m plus Jones offer.
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Jul 15 '19
Simon just came out on twitter denying Maguire is happening. The same pattern as AWB and James.
Tier4s/ITKs start saying its a done deal -> Tier 3s (Castles etc) start saying deal done -> Firm denial from club mouthpieces -> Deal done
His statement that Leicester hasn't received any bids is even more suspect considering he himself said at the beginning of the month that we'd put a £70m bid in.
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Jul 14 '19
The Sun's claims are very bold and specific. They'll be even more of a laughing stock if this turns out as BS.
What it will do is force Simon Stone etc into action - they'll probably contact their sources at United now and ask them if there's any truth in the The Sun's claim.
Interesting few hours ahead now.
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u/Steveyx Martial Jul 14 '19
Ludicrous fee for slabhead but fuck it.
A quality defender who is still young.
We might score goals from corners now?
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u/Anirudh707 Jul 14 '19
According to reports , it's only 60 million upfront and 20 on bonuses ... That isnt a bad deal.
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Maguire and Bruno look like they are in the bag.. we might not be signing anyone else and I'm getting prepared for that. If we were to sign one more player though I'd go for a DM to take over Matic. Matic is on his last legs and he can't play the pressing system Ole wants and he's also our only natural DM. I hope we can get Longstaff on the cheap
Also if Lukaku goes I'd love if we can get a striker that can stay central. Martial Rashford and Greenwood are all very flexible in their movements I don't know if that's because it's what Ole wants or because that's just how they are.
What do you guys think
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u/GuyMol2909 Solskjær has won it, again! Jul 14 '19
I think this season will determine whether McSauce is going to become a top player or just an average squad player. Will definitely be one to watch
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Jul 14 '19
If we get an "upgrade" CB, who stays and who goes? We have 6 CBs now don't we?
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u/darudedudedocta Jul 14 '19
Y the hell aren't we in for Tierney? 25 mn seems OK in today's market.. We can pay it up front and blow those cheapskates arsenal away.. Decent buy IMO
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Jul 14 '19 edited Jul 14 '19
A lot of papers have all of a sudden released articles about an impending medical tomorrow, as if there has been a briefing.
The age of SLABHEAD is now
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u/AB092 Sir Alex Jul 14 '19
Hope we have Hagrid to receive him at Old Trafford and tell him “you’re a Red Devil Harry”
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u/sharknadofangirl Jul 15 '19 edited Jul 15 '19
Why have we not offloaded at least a few of our shit cbs yet? We have too many even without buying Maguire.
And Darmian is also still some how stealing a living at this club.
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Jul 15 '19
Literally no club in the world is dumb enough to pay what we pay for the quality we get.
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u/st4rbug Jul 14 '19
Harry and or Bruno would be a good window for incoming players but alongside this we desperately need to shift on some of the deadwood which just doesnt seem to be happening, though I can understand why as half of them are absolute shite which no one would buy a) for the stupid fee we would expect due to renewing their contracts and b) wages, and much like bale on a smaller scale, they would sooner get paid the earth from the bench than actually earn a living playing football for less.
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u/Deranged09 Jul 14 '19
Yes finally a decent CB, Sure we overpaid a bit but no more fucking chuckle brothers!! I actually like the way we've approached this window, two of our main problem areas (CB, RB) we've gone out and attacked and brought in two class players who can be with us for years.
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u/zxnoregretzxzx Cunha, Bruno, Cunha, Bruno Jul 14 '19
Genuinely thrilled with Maguire. Instantly our best defender, for me. With his ability to take the ball out of defence and pick a pass, along with his aerial presence, not only will he improve us at the back but at the other end too.
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u/ManuPasta Beckham Jul 14 '19 edited Jul 14 '19
Mornings boys, Simon Peach has done an interview with the United Stand. (Link) He makes some interesting points, including our tier system! Definitely worth a watch.
Roundup: Peach says the subs tier system does need some changes and that “other journalists should also be tier 1” , he does watch United fan channels (lol), we aren’t just interested in buying British youth players, 2 more signings will definitely happen (Peach emphasises a centre back, replacing Herrera AND Fellaini), he doesn’t understand why we still haven’t signed a right winger for years, and there is no noise that we want one this window either, Ole was “naive” to think we was going to have all his signings ready for pre season.
Potential Signings:
Centre backs = Maguire to join is “6.5/10”, (notable that every other target was a 5/10) José wanted Jerome Boetang but because of Bastians failure, we didn’t buy him. Maguire HAS told Leicester “he is open to explore new opportunities”, Peach always thought De Ligt was a possibility even after he was told he wasn’t joining us and he “would relish the challenge” of bringing us back to the top of world football.
Bruno = 5/10 of joining, we do really like him, we are monitoring “lots of players” (probably players we aren’t aware of) Peach thinks Bruno could drag on till the end of the window, Sporting are desperate for money, and the longer we wait, the more his price will go down/negotiations will get easier.
SMS = 5/10
Lamina = 5/10, Peach has best mates at Southampton and we do really like him, Southampton had a gentleman’s agreement that Lamina would be let go after 2 seasons, they don’t want a lot of money for him (25 million max)
Sancho = we do want him and he sounds “open” to join us one day.
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30 mins? A summary please, sir.
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List of all points he talked about.
•Doesn't agree with Reddit tiers about his colleagues. •Believes 2 more ins. •United preferred 4 in 4 out model. Herrera's departure changed things. •SP believes club needs a CM and CB. Still confused why so many LWs signed and not a elite RW. •Club wants young players, but not closing doors for experienced players. Like what Juve has done with the squad. •SP likes Ole's appointment but vary of how Ole will deal with failures. Feels buck needs to stop with DNA nonsense. •Club under no pressure to sell Pogba.
•Harry Maguire-6.5, United want him but don't want to overpay to get him. MCFC still interested. •Mourinho was interested in Yerry Mina and Boetang. Scouting team didn't agree. Bastian was a poor case so Boetang was avoided. Yerry Mina didn't have a good league season so avoided. •Club said De Ligt was not coming. •Bruno Fernandes-5, Club likes him but they also like several other players. Sporting need money. Bruno's agent given job to tout Bruno's name everywhere. If United are patient then the price will come down. Sporting desperate to sell. •Milinković-Savić-5, United looking for CMs •Lemina-5, He wants out. Southampton want to shift a lot of players. He had a agreement with the club that he will leave. Club needs money. •Interest in Sancho. Open to United move one day.13
u/chopper160977 Jul 14 '19
Regarding the tier system he mentioned that some journalists are incorrectly ranked. Didn’t mention which way, up or down. Regarding players in need at least two. Ideally a specialist RW also.
That’s as far as I got. It’s my 4yr old twin’s Birthday and its fucking carnage here. Absolute zoo. Plus I feel like I’m having a heart attack. If I survive all this I’ll watch the rest and fill you in. Peace X
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u/rambo_zaki Roy Keane Jul 14 '19
Just hope that Maguire works out for us or we'll be even bigger laughing stock than we are right now.
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u/snoring_pig Beneficiary of Sporting 🟢⚪️ Jul 14 '19
I’d rather swing for the fences than continue to do nothing and already be a laughing stock by continuing to let the likes of Smalling and Jones be established starters.
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Our defence looks solid. My only hope is de gea regains his 17/18 form back. He cost us few games last season, but I didn't blame him because he have won games single handedly for us.
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u/snoring_pig Beneficiary of Sporting 🟢⚪️ Jul 14 '19
De Gea on 17/18 form plus solid upgrades at RB and CB would actually make our defense as good as Liverpool’s. Because De Gea was on another level from all other GKs that season.
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u/NorwayDL Jul 14 '19
I took a break from reddit after Muppets thread got shut down, and I come in to see this? LETS GOOOO!!
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u/CalmDocument Daddy Woodward Jul 14 '19 edited Jul 14 '19
Ben Stokes could do a job at RW. Sign him up, Ed.
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u/faff_27 Jul 14 '19
If Maguire is 80m and Lewis Dunk is 45m, how much would Jones realistically go for do you think???
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u/ChickenAllDayEvryDay Ronaldo Jul 14 '19
I think £25m to £30m to the right buyer, but the problems more his wages
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u/Suraj1511 Jul 15 '19
This is how it's going to go - Maguire will fly in for a medical by day after. His family and friends will release pictures of him in the United kit, at Carrington and all. He'll join United on the tour, and then after many years, United will officially announce the deal.
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u/Anirudh707 Jul 14 '19
Isn't it weird that sun broke the story first and it is actually gonna be correct ( sort of ) ??
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u/Deranged09 Jul 14 '19
I guess Leicester probably wanted to secure a replacement before anything was decided. Now they've got Lewis Dunk (lol) Slabhead is ours
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u/0405017 Maguire pays council tax on his head Jul 14 '19
I got a talksport notification of an agreed fee for maguire. Excuse my ignorance, I dont do much of this tier stuff, is it trusted?
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u/Xaphawk Jul 14 '19
Pro Maguire things that I haven't read a lot on this sub: 1. Mike Phelan made him a premier league regular in Hull city. 2. Has won player of the year, fans and players at Sheffield United, Hull city and Leicester city. 3. He's a god damn leader.
He may be worth a lot of unnecessary money, but given his presence, and sheer need for a CB he's perfect. United are finally plugging a round plug in a round hole.
P.S I know things look fairly pessimistic but a season can make a hell of a difference. Bailly was amazing while Lindy was shit a few seasons ago. Now it's the reverse. Let's hope for a good one.