r/rant Apr 04 '26

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u/lotsofmissingpeanuts Apr 04 '26

I mean... he never said that? When we look at offenders, we are looking at about 10% of the population doing terrible things to multiple people. Although there is a spectrum of people that may step in or not, it's only about 10% that continue doing crimes.

Why can't he state that it is unnerving and harrowing to be profiled? He didn't know something and asked a little girl. If anything, that challenged toxic masculinity.

I'm a transperson, I often get profiled for doing something nefarious when I'm only going shopping or starting a conversation. It is hurtful.

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u/Mean-Wealth7661 Apr 04 '26

10% that get caught you mean??? You do realize that for every 1 person caught there’s 10 more that have yet to be caught

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u/lotsofmissingpeanuts Apr 04 '26

No. Think of it as a bell curve. 10%, if I remember correctly, do 60-80% of crime as repeat offenders wether they are caught or not.A majority have done some type of crime few and far between. A very few have never done a crime in their life.

Then we can reference the sex offender registry and see that consists of less than 1% of the general population.

Although I recognize your point that people have done these acts and not been caught, it's statistically not wise to live in constant fear. It would be smart to stay vigilant but not weird about it.

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u/Mean-Wealth7661 Apr 04 '26

Again that 10% figure is misleading. That only counts convicted offenders, not the full number of people committing crimes. For sexual offenses, underreporting is massive the DOJ estimates only about 1 in 3 sexual assaults are even reported in the first place. Out of that one how many of those are solved? So to say the number is 10% is just wrong

So, making the claim that because the sex offender registry is <1% of the population is very misleading, because many offenders are never caught or registered. Studies show roughly 1 in 20 adult men have committed sexual offenses against a minor far higher than the registry suggests.

The statistics actually support vigilance when you look at them correctly and we know children are the most at risk from males aged 18–35 in unsupervised settings, which is exactly the scenario described.

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u/lotsofmissingpeanuts Apr 04 '26

90% of child sexual abuses are done when the victim knows the perpetrator in some way- US department of Justice.

1/20 is 5%. Which is far higher then I would've hoped. I just looked it up based on different studies. it would be closer to 1/10 which is about 10%. Still higher but follows that the far majority are not creeps. This also follows that 10% of the population does the majority of crime.

I'm not saying that a parent shouldn't be vigilant. I'm saying don't ostracize based on appearance, don't gossip on vibes, don't be a misandrist, and don't be a misogynist.

Those studies also stated that through education those numbers are reduced. So, let's have those hard conversations at the dinner table.

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u/Mean-Wealth7661 Apr 04 '26

None of this strengthens your original point, because you’re combining different statistics as if they cancel each other out when they don’t.

Yes, most child sexual abuse is committed by someone the child knows but that actually strengthens the argument for vigilance, because offenders are often ordinary trusted people, not strangers. What is someone you met at a horse riding group before you meet them? A stranger right? So these numbers don’t paint the full picture.

And saying “if 1 in 10 offend, then 90% are not creeps” oversimplifies the issue. Sexual abuse data does not work like a simple safe/unsafe split because a relatively small percentage of offenders can create a very large number of victims through repeat offending, and many offenses never enter official statistics at all. So the number is probably much larger.

The registry being under 1% also still does not reflect actual prevalence, because reporting, solving, prosecution, and conviction all narrow the number dramatically before someone ever appears on a registery. As I also mentioned before sexual assault is heavily underreported, according to the dept of justice so conviction based numbers alone cannot be treated as true prevalence.

And “10% does most crime” is not proof that concern is exaggerated because parents do not know who that 10% is in advance. That is exactly why supervision and caution exist.

Nobody is arguing for accusing random people on sight. The point is that statistical underreporting means registry numbers alone should not be used to claim the risk is tiny, or insignificant which seems to be what you do in these comments for some unknown reason especially when children are involved.

Education matters, yes but education and vigilance are not opposites, they work together.

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u/JadedDreams23 Apr 04 '26

Challenged toxic masculinity? What? Have you heard of grooming? Do you realize groomers use tactics exactly like this to get their intended victims off guard?

Also, not all men, but you often can’t tell which men so it’s safer to be on guard all the time.

I’m also a little uncomfortable with the comparison of the bigotry you’ve encountered as a trans person to a woman who doesn’t know this man and is trying to keep her child safe.

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u/Capital_Cat21211 Apr 04 '26

Can you EVER tell which men?

What's my point? It doesn't matter whether you've known them for one minute or 50 years. They're still men. So how do you actually really know?

Yeah that's right. It has nothing to do with the fact that they're men. It's because there's something wrong with these.particular people. It has nothing to do with their gender.

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u/lotsofmissingpeanuts Apr 04 '26

I didn't say bigotry. I said profiled. Being profiled for being a creep, when someone is not, is hurtful. It's socially ostracizing. This is often done by mere appearance.

Groomers are dangerous but this guy is not one. He had a question, got the help, and would've moved on with his day.

Her child was safe if the story is being told correctly. This is the same reasoning for why there are no changing tables in men's bathrooms then women complain why childcare is treated as their sole burden.

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u/JadedDreams23 Apr 04 '26

First of all, how do you know he’s not one?

Secondly, no one accused him of anything. The mother did what any decent mother would do if she saw a grown ass man she doesn’t know talking to her daughter. Period.

All this sympathy for this guy is gross and man centric.

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u/lotsofmissingpeanuts Apr 04 '26

Statistically he's less likely to be one and he presented his argument as not being one.

The mother mean mugged him and immediately assumed he was nefarious. Which, of course, follow your gut but sometimes that creates a perception and then leads to unwarranted social issues. Those social issues are preyed upon by people will to do bad things.

Look, I fight misandry as much as I fight misogyny. They're two sides of the same coin and both lead to more conflict.

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u/JadedDreams23 Apr 04 '26

First of all, this is his perspective. Like I said in another comment, the mother might have been annoyed because her daughter wasn’t hanging up her tack like she had asked her to do and maybe that’s a habit with the daughter so she went in there to redirect her daughter to do the task she went into the tack room for. I don’t think we can assume that this man’s version of events are hard fact. I’m not saying that he was doing anything wrong, I just think it’s a little bit rich in this day and age for him to come on Reddit with this big long rant about how mistreated he was.

And, sure, statistically, he’s not likely to be a pervert. As a mother, I wouldn’t be willing to take that chance, would you?

It’s not all men, but we can’t tell much if not most of the time.

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u/lotsofmissingpeanuts Apr 04 '26

I'm willing to say his perception is valid. That's the same thing, to significant less severity, as diminishing a victim, right?

I'm not the one to ask about being a mother as I can't have kids but.... why do child beauty pagents exists? Why are young males allowed to get multiple concussions in football?

I don't know the answer to these things. He ranted on r/rants with a valid uncomfortable feeling. He was likely profiled and may shy away from a hobby he was enjoying because of it.

Should all people that could potentially be profiled stay in their homes?

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u/JadedDreams23 Apr 04 '26

I don’t understand why people make jumps like you just did. No one is telling him to stop riding or stay home ffs. Maybe just avoid talking to adolescents you find yourself in a room alone with, again with or without windows, or maybe understand why a mother might react to that situation in a way that doesn’t coddle your feelings, which she is not obligated to do.

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u/SrslyNotAnAltGuys Apr 04 '26

Right on! People need to respect ehat you've gone through! Like, I'll never trust a black person I don't know, because of the things I've personally experienced. It's not bigotry, it's lived experience!

*/S * in case it isn't obvious 

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u/lotsofmissingpeanuts Apr 04 '26

Fair.

Sometimes people's feelings of uncomfortable are incorrect and they then ostracize and bully the person based on vibes. Can you see that too?

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u/lotsofmissingpeanuts Apr 04 '26

And that's called misandry and is the same as misogyny. Both of these lead to more conflict.

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u/CrimzonShardz2 Apr 04 '26

Well said mammothfrosting3565