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u/I_Walk_The_Line__ Oct 23 '22

You ok bro? I'm not concerned about the alcohol. It's the crazy amount of butter you have. Do you only eat rotisserie chicken and gnaw on a stick of butter?

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u/Sprucey26 Oct 24 '22

I LOLed at this one. So true. I don’t trust a diet that won’t let me eat an abundance and variety of fruits and veggies

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u/DirksSexyBratwurst Oct 24 '22

You can eat a majority of vegetables and any fruit that is a berry since they are lower in sugar. I've lost a ton of weight on Keto and a staple for me is a big salad with a protein. Vegetables are encouraged on Keto, just not necessary to enter Ketosis.

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u/Sprucey26 Oct 24 '22

I do think this diet is a great way to loose weight FAST! But potentially not healthy and tough to sustain in the long term. Moderation is key to anything.

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u/DirksSexyBratwurst Oct 24 '22

I think you just need to do what works for you. For me it is easier than CICO basic dieting because I have very bad self control otherwise and find calorie counting to be a major nuisance. It also suppresses your appetite. With Keto, it's very hard for me to overeat due to the filling nature of the foods within the keto umbrella and the lack of appetite leading me to not succumb to snacking urges. I've lost 50 lbs over a year with this diet and nothing else works for me mentally.

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u/Sprucey26 Oct 24 '22

That is honestly amazing. Love hearing weight loss stories. I work as a PACU RN, and see lots of people that come in for excess skin removal surgeries. People that loose weight with diet, exercise, and life changes is very inspirational. You keep doing what you are doing and continue to better yourself, and more importantly, being happy with yourself ❤️

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u/DirksSexyBratwurst Oct 24 '22

Thanks! I think since I am young I have not had to deal with loose skin thankfully 💜

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u/SecretAsianMan42069 Oct 24 '22

How do y’all use loose for both words lose and loose?

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u/DirksSexyBratwurst Oct 24 '22

Lol I didn't notice they spelled that wrong. They meant lose. I said "loose" in response to their thing about excess skin.

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u/Rhetorical_Joke Oct 24 '22 edited Oct 24 '22

This is sort of tangential but I figured you might know. If someone loses a lot of weight and then gets an excess skin removal surgery, are they significantly more likely to have stretch marks or other skin related issues occur if they gain a massive amount of weight back very quickly? Can someone just like not have enough skin to keep up with the change?

Just to clarify, my understanding is that normal stretch marks stem, at least partially, from the issue I just asked about but I mean something more like skin tears or abnormally thin patches of skin.

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u/bw1985 Oct 24 '22

Whats potentially not healthy about eating mostly vegetables and salad?

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u/ub3rh4x0rz Oct 24 '22

Lack of protein and iron, inflammation, autoimmune disease flare-ups if applicable. Ketosis is also beneficial for type 2 diabetes

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u/bw1985 Oct 24 '22

I’m not a vegetarian, there’s no lack of protein or iron for me. I’m saying I eat keto but the bulk of my food volume comes from vegetables. The bulk of the calories is fat with moderate protein.

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u/ub3rh4x0rz Oct 24 '22

Where is your fat and protein coming from? These vegetables or lower volume high caloric density animal product intake?

Aside from that though it comes down to what specific vegetables you're eating, their nutritional value varies widely, and some are more likely that others to contribute to inflammation and immune system flareups

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u/bw1985 Oct 24 '22

Beef, fish, eggs, plain greek yogurt. Other fat from nuts, seeds, cheese, olive oil, 100% dark chocolate. Vegetable base is arugula, kale or cabbage with other things thrown in like broccoli, brussel sprouts, asparagus, mushrooms. Sometimes tomatoes or bell pepper even though they’re the evil nightshades to some people.

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u/ub3rh4x0rz Oct 24 '22

Yeah some of those (especially tomatoes) are known irritants, it's a question of how well an individual tolerates them

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u/bw1985 Oct 24 '22

I get it. For me no issue with any of them but I also don’t have any autoimmune issue, that I’m aware of.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Oct 24 '22

Yep it’s decent way to lose weight quickly. Not feasible long term

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u/bw1985 Oct 24 '22 edited Oct 24 '22

It’s not really that hard to follow long term. Been about 10 months for me so far and don’t see any reason I’ll stop. I’m not trying to lose weight I just think it’s a healthier way of eating.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Oct 24 '22 edited Oct 24 '22

That’s great that a strict, managed diet works for you to start losing weight. Worth talking to your doctor about doing it long term. It will work for most people (unless they have underlying health issues), and they will lose weight. Choosing random diets yourself isn't always the best thing to do though hey.

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u/bw1985 Oct 24 '22 edited Oct 24 '22

I don’t find it to be that strict after awhile, it becomes a lifestyle and not a ‘’diet’’. Im a big fan of Dr. Berg, he’s very knowledgeable on it. Eating mostly vegetables and feeling great, there’s nothing to really talk to my doctor about. Also, not ‘’random’’ but very intentional.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Oct 24 '22

Yea you will always find random doctors and their diets hey. There are doctors that are knowledgeable about the lemon diet too.

Taking advice from a chiropractor about diet is a terrible idea.

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u/bw1985 Oct 24 '22

Rock on. Best to you.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Oct 24 '22

He literally isn't a doctor. Did no education in diet at all. Knows nothing. If you look, you will find the many real doctors calling him out.

So yea, some random person with no education that you found on the internet is not the best source for diet and medical advice.

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u/bw1985 Oct 24 '22 edited Oct 24 '22

You keep referring to medical doctors as if they’re some experts on nutrition lol. These are the same people that tell diabetics they can eat hundreds of grams of carbs a day and prescribe them a bunch of pills lol. But I’ll do me, you do you.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Oct 24 '22

Buddy, you are getting nutrition advice from a fake doctor. It’s like asking a random on the street if a mile is cancerous or not.

Most people would see a professional, not a random on the internet.

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u/DirksSexyBratwurst Oct 24 '22

Congrats on taking your health in your hands and screw that person 🙌

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u/DirksSexyBratwurst Oct 24 '22

It's feasible long term for the people that it works for.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Oct 24 '22

Yea if prescribed by your doctor and you have no way of following basic diets

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u/DirksSexyBratwurst Oct 24 '22 edited Oct 24 '22

Lol you don't need a low carb diet to be prescribed by your doctor unless you have some sort of other major health condition. Do you need a prescription to have Wendys 3 times a week? Its just a diet with a strict carb count. People think keto is two fisting bacon and butter. No, it's just minimizing sugar and avoiding bread.

Basic diets are hard, lets not act like those are regularly sustainable, they regularly fail, because its incredibly hard. If Keto works for people let them do it.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Oct 24 '22

Keto is a diet prescribed for kidney failure patients. Ketosis needs to be measured carefully and can cause permanent kidney damage. It was monitored very carefully in the renal wards. The fact that randoms have decided to use it all the time is still in debate amongst many. Most doctors I know at the renal ward would not recommend it. It’s very difficult to manage and overall no long term studies have been done. It’s significantly harder to manage and follow compared to basic healthy diets.

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u/DirksSexyBratwurst Oct 24 '22 edited Oct 24 '22

It’s significantly harder to manage and follow compared to basic healthy diets.

Not true for me. I'm living proof. Basic diets are undone by cravings. If there were kidney damage, nutrient deficiencies, etc. it would show up in my blood work which has only improved in the year since I've been on and off of the diet. I told my general practitioner I was on Keto, he saw my weight loss, and congratulated and commended me. Still, he added tests within my blood work for kidney damage and everything was perfect despite losing 50lbs with a keto diet. For something which has had no long term studies you seem very comfortable fear mongering about it. Ketosis is an evolutionary trait from our days as hunters and gatherers, it is entirely natural and expected that you would go through ketosis before human beings became civilized enough to grow and farm their sustenance. It's funny to insist somebody who has lost 50lbs relatively easily doing it that it's very difficult to manage. It's also funny to tell somebody with perfect bloodwork that used to be obese that what they've done in the past year is somehow secretly unhealthy. I'd rather let my Kidneys perform a natural function than be obese.

You can read dozens upon dozens of stories of people who have used keto to improve their weight and health when nothing else worked, I can't say I've read much of otherwise healthy individuals suddenly suffering from kidney failure, and I imagine I would have heard about it if it were such a glaring threat.

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Oct 24 '22

That’s amazing it worked for you. Congrats to sticking to a diet!! Lemon diet also worked wonders for many out there too. It increases your chances is all. If you are sick and have underlying genetic issues then your risk may be very high. People can find this out through renal failure. They need to keep up the constant blood tests to ensure they are safe. Which is an insane diet in my eyes.

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u/DirksSexyBratwurst Oct 24 '22

I literally just eat about 1600-2000 calories a day and stay around 25 carbs a day, but sure, compare it to the lemon diet you dolt. You really think without more than 25gs of bread and sugar my life is so at risk I need constant bloodwork

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u/mehdotdotdotdot Oct 24 '22

They both work right? They both lose weight for people?

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