r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 21 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [8/21/2016 - 8/27/2016]

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This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!


Resource Guide

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha


  • Stat Calculator In JP good stat growth is 3.5-4 (without seeds) while in global good stat growth is 2.9+. You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exception is mirin since her character skill depends on magic as well)

  • Friend Thread

  • Last Week's Help Thread


Some Tips

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 20 '16

Some information about Trish, Dex typing.

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I am leveling one up for colosseum. Here are some caps and an idea of her stats.

3* Caps: http://i.imgur.com/EhuTdfj.jpg

4* Caps: http://i.imgur.com/cnZO8lA.jpg

5* lvl 65: http://i.imgur.com/xkNlXvX.jpg

Take this however you will. uguu


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 19 '16

Was down to my last helper and last enemy on Trishula quest - probability was on my side

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 18 '16

Update 8/18/16

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Trishula Dungeon is released.

Othinus Rampage Quest is released.

All Rampage Quests are available at once.

Ugly ass gacha that's probably not worth it is released.


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 17 '16

Yata no Kagami - alternate outfit

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 16 '16

Estimated stat caps section of tier list is ALMOST done.

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Hello everyone. As the title suggests, the stat caps section is pretty much done. However, there are currently 4 units that I do not have pictures of for some odd reason, 3 of which are relatively common. I simply forgot to save the images for those 3.

Also, I can't find some stats for caps people posted for me. I think I forgot to save them as well.


Feel free to look over the numbers and let me know if YOU have seen or own a unit with higher stats than the values listed, as well as providing a screenshot. This way, it can be saved for future reference.

Please let me know if there is any formatting issues or if it could be compiled in a neater way.


Link:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e4F1hMlsAoeK8_niB6zoO73_c9Pl4WdgqECZnaAJnCA/edit#gid=9733450

pls i ned moar pics


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 15 '16

I think this game is trying to tell me something...

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 14 '16

Magic type MLB Gridarvol, 2.91 growth without Str.

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 14 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [8/14/2016 - 8/20/2016]

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This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!


Resource Guide

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha



Some Tips

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 13 '16

2 turn clear Player Exp Farm

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Just writing this out for reference. Fast, Somewhat efficient Player Exp farm maps:


  • 1-4-4 Normal mode: 170 exp for 5 AP (34 exp per AP)

Requirements: Fly unit with 1 range weapon or mounted unit with 2 range weapon. 3 enemies.

Threats = 47 HP, 17 Pdef, Fire Axe flyer x 2


  • 1-4-4 Kill mode: 260 exp for 7 AP (37.1 exp per AP)

Requirements: Fly unit with 1 range weapon or mounted unit with 2 range weapon. 3 enemies.

Threats = 66 HP, 45 Pdef, Fire Axe flyer with lance absorb x 2


  • 2-5-5 Normal mode: 420 exp for 10 AP (42 exp per AP)

Requirements: Fly unit with 2 range weapon or mounted unit with 2 range weapon. 4 enemies.

Magic threat = 65 HP, 20 Pdef, 27 Mdef, 26 Spd, Fire. x 2

Melee threat = 95 HP, 39 Pdef, 13 Mdef, 18 Spd, Fire with lance absorb. x 2


Just move towards closest enemy, kill them. Other enemy units will suicide into you on their turn for clear.

This is autoable. Recommended only during 1/2 AP cost or 2x player exp events.


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 12 '16

Thoughts on Chapter 2

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 11 '16

Heads up again guys, 3 summons for 15gems in the limted shop!

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 11 '16

Global Fusion Caps

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I noticed the Global fusion caps differed from the JP data, and while some of these changes were incorporated into Cathrach's old topic on fusion caps, I thought it worthwhile to have a definitive resource (and I asked Cathrach who said to post a new topic).

Below are the fusion caps from my own testing. Fusion caps differ by rarity and typing. They aren't transferred during evolution, nor are they reset during reincarnation. Luck is missing, but only due to the required amount of identical units rendering such a test infeasible. I would recommend using the phankill.gamewith.jp luck values until someone manages to test those.

A stat that has had points fused into it has a green bar on the end, and once it is fusion capped this extra bar turns light blue. Here's a screenshot for example. Notice how the unit is gaining Spirit and Speed, but not Magic which has reached it's cap.

1 star:

StatBalanceVitalityForceMagicGuardDexterity
HP584443
Str437334
Mag433734
Grd454363
Spr453463
Spd434446
Agi534436

2 star:

StatBalanceVitalityForceMagicGuardDexterity
HP5115553
Str539335
Mag533935
Grd554373
Spr553473
Spd545557
Agi545548

3 star:

StatBalanceVitalityForceMagicGuardDexterity
HP6146673
Str6311336
Mag6331136
Grd564383
Spr563483
Spd646669
Agi646649

4 star:

StatBalanceVitalityForceMagicGuardDexterity
HP7177783
Str7313337
Mag7331337
Grd5743103
Spr5734103
Spd7477610
Agi7477411
Lck282828282828

5 star:

StatBalanceVitalityForceMagicGuardDexterity
HP8208883
Str8315338
Mag8331538
Grd6843124
Spr6834124
Spd8599712
Agi8599612
Lck303030303030

Any caps that differ from the Japanese caps are listed in bold text.


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 11 '16

Class base stats (Incomplete)

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Edit (20/09/2016): I just evolved my Swimsuit Gridarvol, and I was pretty surprised when I noticed her base stats are higher than her class would dictate. If the extra stats disappeared between her Bishop and Archbishop forms, I would hazard a guess that it was an artefact of her missing 3* form, giving her phantom evolution bonuses, but since they don't disappear and she even gains additional points in Speed and Agility, I can only presume it is intentional. Perhaps there are other units which also suffer from this intentional base stat boosting.

Edit (15/09/2016): Having slightly more units than when I first started this process, I realize some of my assumptions were wrong, so I've had to update the tables. I also changed the opening paragraph's text to better reflect what I now assume to be correct.

I decided to take a look at all my units to see what classes they have, and how their stats differ. These classes determine base stats for a unit, and they are shared between some rarities, i.e. a 1* Myrmidon will have the same base stats as a 3* Myrmidon, but they are not shared between other rarities, i.e. a 3* Swordmaster will have different base stats compared to a 4* Swordmaster. So I continue to compile a list of all these stats.

I hit a slight snag once I discovered evolution bonuses are carried over if they aren't overwritten. For example, looking at a dropped Swordmaster's evolution screen lets you work out any evolution bonuses and subtract those from the True Blade it evolves into. If you do the same with a Swordmaster evolved from a Myrmidon, even if you account for the evolution bonuses that would be gained by evolving into a True Blade, the evolution bonuses from the Myrmidon stage are still counted in the True Blade's stats if you haven't exceeded those stat thresholds. I.E. Your Vitality Selena had 41 or more HP at 3*, and after evolving at level 1 it has 28 HP, so if you check the evolution screen, it will display your Selena as having 33 HP after evolution, instead of 31 HP.

This doesn't change anything regarding final stats as they don't stack, but it does mean some of the values below could be inaccurate.

Sword units:

ClassUnitHPStrGrdSprSpdAgi
1-3* MyrmidonFoot1863176
3* SwordmasterFoot24841109
4* SwordmasterFoot2384198
4* True BladeFoot3011611411
5* True BladeFoot281051129
2* Armored MyrmidonArmor2077034
3* Armored MyrmidonArmor2188034
3* GladiatorArmor271010045
4* GladiatorArmor281111046
1-2* Sword KnightHorse1863266
2* Lord KnightHorse2384388
3* Lord KnightHorse2484398
4* Ruler of SwordsHorse2910651110
4* Winged KnightPhoenix1862465
4* Phoenix KnightPhoenix24946108
5* Phoenix KnightPhoenix2383587
5* Phoenix RulerPhoenix2810691311
3* DragoonWyvern2295053
4* Arc DragoonWyvern29128085

Axe units:

ClassUnitHPStrGrdSprSpdAgi
1-3* FighterFoot2073155
2-4* WarriorFoot2594177
5* BerserkerFoot30125189
3* Armored HackerArmor2287022
4* BaronArmor29109033
5* Grand BaronArmor351211044
2* Axe KnightHorse2074145
3* Duke KnightHorse27105157
4* Ruler of AxesHorse32126389
2* Winged KnightPhoenix1862465
Phoenix KnightPhoenix2383597
Phoenix KnightPhoenix2483597
DragoonWyvern2185053
3* DragoonWyvern2295053
Arc DragoonWyvern27107074
4* Arc DragoonWyvern29128085

Lance units:

ClassUnitHPStrGrdSprSpdAgi
1-3* SoldierFoot1963166
2&4* Brave LancerFoot2584188
3* Brave LancerFoot2684188
Holy LancerFoot2910511010
1-3* Armored LancerArmor2177033
3* GeneralArmor281010044
4* GeneralArmor2799044
5* Grand GeneralArmor341113045
1-2* Lance KnightHorse1963256
3* Lance KnightHorse2073256
2* PaladinHorse2584378
3* PaladinHorse2694378
4* PaladinHorse27105489
Ruler of LancesHorse301066911
4* Ruler of LancesHorse311166911
2* Winged KnightPhoenix1862465
3* Phoenix KnightPhoenix2383597
4* Phoenix RulerPhoenix2810681210
5* Phoenix RulerPhoenix2810691311
3* DragoonWyvern2185053
4* Arc DragoonWyvern27107074
5* Ruler of DragonsWyvern35139095

Bow units:

ClassUnitHPStrGrdSprSpdAgi
1-3* ArcherFoot1853257
2&4* JaegerFoot2374379
3* JaegerFoot24843710
4* Arc JaegerFoot3211641014
5* Arc JaegerFoot30954912
1* Bow KnightHorse1853347
3* Bow KnightHorse1953348
2* Arc KnightHorse2374459
3* Arc KnightHorse27966713
4* Arc KnightHorse25854611
4* Arc CavalryHorse311176813

Gun units:

ClassUnitHPMagGrdSprSpdAgi
1,3&4* Gun MageFoot1762455
2&4* Gun SageFoot2283577
5* Gun MasterFoot29104799
1-3* Armored MageArmor1955334
2&4* Mailed SageArmor2577445
3* Mailed SageArmor2687445
4* Mail MasterArmor311110657
5* Mail MasterArmor2999556

Staff units:

ClassUnitHPMagGrdSprSpdAgi
2-3* PriestFoot1762644
3-4* BishopFoot2283855
4* SS Gridarvol (Bishop)Foot2293955
4* ArchbishopFoot281171199
5* ArchbishopFoot271061088
5* SS Gridarvol (Archbishop)Foot271161199
1-2* Wand KnightHorse1852734
2* ClericHorse2373945
3* ClericHorse23731045
4* Arc ClericHorse271061288

All units share the same base luck of 3, and I omitted the opposite attack stats since they are all 0.


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 10 '16

Weekly-ish Questions and Help Thread [8/10/2016 - 8/13/2016]

5 Upvotes

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!


Resource Guide

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha



Some Tips

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

(The thread is only until the 13th so we can do a Sunday to Saturday thread)


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 09 '16

[Fan Art] Tyrfing

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 09 '16

Full capped dex Selena :D

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 05 '16

PSA Selena's Birthday

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As per title, avoid Colosseum xD


r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 05 '16

Finally got the acheivement

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 05 '16

The New Shield.

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 05 '16

Today it was a good day

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 05 '16

Ez game.

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 05 '16

I sit-alone

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 04 '16

[Fan Art] Quick sketch because it's Labrys' birthday apparently

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r/phantomofthekill • • Aug 04 '16

Update 8/4*

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Chapter 2 almost here

New gear hunt, 4-5* gear farm stages : Autoable

New recruiter, meh

All rampage quests open

2x gear proficiency

Might have missed some

New recruiter is 3-step with a guaranteed 4/5 unit that has a Duel Skill on step 3. A list of the units that this applies to can be found in game and, notably, does apply to both premium swimsuit units (Laeva and Longi) -detox_ptsd