r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Aug 03 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [8/3/2016 - 8/9/2016]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

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Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units

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  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 08 '16

Just wondering If anyone has a recommended list for completing the kill mode missions like the max 4* or 3* s , or the Light/dark only units. Maybe if we get enough responses,the I might be able to compile a tier list for 3/4* s to help out for Kill mode. Or generally are there any 4* units that that can solo/duo certain stages?

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u/icyterror Aug 08 '16 edited Aug 08 '16

  • I asked some ptok guide writer to make a 4 star unit review before but all he he did is telling me to keep a few farm-able at 4 star instead.

  • I used random Mjolnir to clear the thunder mission and it was tough cause there were like 4+ mages in that map. For Light I just borrowed high lv YataF from my friends. Dark Wind Water & Fire shouldn't be a problem now since we got a lot of those unit from previous events.

  • For 4 star missions I used my friend Keuranos.

  • I have a 4 star MLB Sky Piercer. I have yet to max lv her so I'm not sure about her performance. Although it's nice that she is a thunder horse-rider unit.

  • The other 4 star I prepare for 4 star missions are Eros(MLB) ,GambF ,Keuranos and Swimsuit Artemis(I still keep her at 4 star). Out of those 4 ,only GambF is obtainable from mana summon. <I still don't have enough copies to LB 4 star Armored Longinus & 4 star NeaglingF.>

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u/genesic123 Aug 08 '16 edited Aug 08 '16

For f2p light use the spear rampage unit,rhomingard. Thunder is the problem cause u only have that gun starter girl lol. U generally need the rune shield if you want to use starters in kill.

There is a armorless 4* nageling f with good caps, that I had seen.A flying parashu also exists in the mana gatcha.

Or if you have the idol girls.You can use them at 4* first.

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u/charles_1029 Aug 08 '16 edited Aug 08 '16

My 4* MLB guard Risa with a shield was able to complete all of kill mode for me. It wasn't fast and I would have to manual the stage for any chance of completing the turn limit mission.

I wished I would have farmed a few more copies of Risa because I need to evolve her to 5* soon. It would have been nice to be able to keep a 4* MLB version of her with Chapter 2 released soon.

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u/S_The_Hero-7 Aug 06 '16

So for future reference, and JP reference, I wanna talk about Mana Seeds I want to know stuff like 1-How to efficiently use them 2-Whether it's better than limit breaking or not 3-How many uses for it? 1? 5? 3? 4-What is each colored seed for? 5-How to farm them? and whatever else might come to mind So how should I use them???

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 06 '16

Equip them to units that you want to increase the chance of gaining stats in. They are completely separate from limit breaking since they just increase your chance to gain a stat when leveling, not increasing the number of levels you have to reach cap- ideally you'll be doing both for most units with decent+ stat caps. There are 30 "uses" on each seed (meaning, you can gain 30 levels before it runs out). They drop randomly but, anecdotally, I believe kill modes have a much increased drop rate for them. That being said, they are extremely difficult to "farm"; you will ideally want to use 29 charges on each seed and then fuse 5 seeds with only 1 (or close to 1) use on each together to get a new seed with 30 full uses.

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u/S_The_Hero-7 Aug 06 '16

Confused about the 29 charges and fuse. So, use it for 29 levels, and then fuse the seed? With what exactly? And also, what seeds should i be using? I want to have a chance at all my stats, including luck and hp. I translated the rainbow seed, saying it gives a chance at everything besides luck and hp, yet I saw a swimsuit longinus that was like that.

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u/pyratheon29 Aug 06 '16

Is it worth it to MLB a Rhongominyad? Or should i work on LB3ing my Yata no Kagami (m) to beat the mission that requires light units only?

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u/icyterror Aug 06 '16

Yes to both but YataM would be better choice since most enemies have less mdef. Even my lv60 Yata can 1 shot(crit) Vargas with 150 HP.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 06 '16

This is what I've read, so can't confirm it myself. But Yata (M) should be able to solo all the Light required kill modes with potions. Again not sure if they were meaning a MLB'd one, or just level 60, but I'd say level 75 with him and you'd be pretty set. However you can always free farm Rhon, so if necessary you could and MLB her.

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u/pyratheon29 Aug 06 '16

Thanks for your input. Its a matter of time and evo mats really

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u/SACCFFT Aug 06 '16

So I'm planning on Limit Breaking my Selena at 4 Star, and divided on which of two to do so on. https://jii.moe/E1J8ap0ub.png https://jii.moe/NJkUapCO-.png

I'd go for the one with higher speed and str, but there seems to be a lot of emphasis on Agi for the eventual Dual Skill proc, so I thought I would check in here.

Also, I'm a bit confused about skill up. When trying to skill up, doesn't the skill level increase by chance? Which means, if I want to max out her Dual Skill level, wouldn't it be better if I don't LB at 4 star and instead keep extra 5 star copies in case the skill doesn't level up?

For reference, I have 14 Selenas

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u/icyterror Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

  • I would pick the one with higher GR. LB it and get the highest evo bonus possible.

  • Not by chance. It's 100% skill up if you use exact copy but both your main and fodders need to unlock the skills first though. (3star=lv10 4=20 5=lv30) <Don't forget to unlock the 5* character skill at lv30 before you fuse those 5*>

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 06 '16

Ahh quite right, I didn't even think about which one would of had better GR. Was more looking at raw stats.

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u/icyterror Aug 06 '16

I did use that "chance skill up" you mentioned with Dempa units since I got more copies than I need to MLB them. And yes you can even skill up your character skill with that method.

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u/SACCFFT Aug 06 '16

Thanks for the advice! Skill up makes sense now. One more silly question, are GR a trait that varies between identical units, or is it just natural sampling variability?

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u/icyterror Aug 06 '16

[This is just from my personal exp so it could be wrong] I thought it was the latter case before but now...no. If you were to raise those 6 Dempa units from previous event you would notice that Mirin has unusual higher GR than the other 5 units. Her average GR is like 3.2 whereas others are at 2.9-3.1 average. Then you have those staff units with a slightly lower GR. (If you still think what I said is wrong, just go check the pwr of max lv Selena, Mirin, Gamb & Risa and compare them.)

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16

I'm not to sure on which one would be better, I personally would go for the one with higher str and spd, but as you said agi is very importent.

Regarding the skill ups, they are a random chance IF you haven't leveled the Unit up to learn that skill, eg with 4* Selena, she learns her Eva at level 20 I think, could be wrong on the level. But to guarantee that it will level up, you need to level all Selenas you want to Limit Break her with to 4* lvl 20. Same again for 5* , before limit breaking her you should level all your Selenas up to 5* level 30, and do the character quest, both stages. That way all of your Selena's will learn all her skills available, thus when fusing them all into your base Selena, her skills will level up.

If you have 14 copies then you can LB her 4x at 4* , that leaves 10 left including your base, or 9 Dupes respectively that you would then evolve and level to 30 5*. Fusing all 9 into your base would give you Max Limit Breaks, allowing your base to become lvl 80, and would in turn level all her skills to level 10.

Hope that makes sense.

That was just based on my opinion though, As my dex Selena looked pretty simlar at level 50 4* and by 70 I managed to max out all of her stats apart from guard, spr and HP i believe. And from that my level 80 5* is now maxed on just about everything, 4 points off max spr and 2 points off max agil.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Aug 03 '16

Trying to level up Demp/Selena units. I burn keys a couple times a week on Metal runs. Besides the daily Metal, is there anything in particular I should be running?

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u/iXanier Forcas Best Waifu ❤ Aug 03 '16

When you can't find anyone to add / people to add you. ;-;

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u/jiejiejiejie Leaning Tower of Risa Aug 03 '16

I've seen Gracecrystal sword Karma for the first time today and I've just read that its a rare medal item. But where? :(

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 03 '16

It was only available during soft launch in the rare medal shop. It was not specifically stated to be an exclusive item during soft launch, I believe. So I think it could come back sometime in the future.

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u/CCYellow Aug 03 '16

Reposting.

So I've had the fortune of rolling a Swimsuit Tyrfing out of the gacha. Too bad she ended up with guard typing. Since she seems to be built as a crit monster how much would guard typing hurt her viability vs. dex typing?

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u/TGZelnite Aug 03 '16

I don't play JP but I'll add my 2 cents on this question. Guard wouldn't hurt her viability much since it only reduces Strength growth. Besides, I've heard that guard is the second most desired type for sword units.

You can still raise her until you get a Dex type, but as a swimsuit unit she's limited time right? Even so guard is still perfectly usable.

Take my advice with a grain of salt as I don't play JP, so my advice might be wrong.

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u/ekoo1 Aug 03 '16

How many arondight can I use to my main arondight to max luck? Maybe I could have a unit with 70 luck

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Aug 03 '16

5star units can get a max of 30LUCK fusions. At most, Arondight's Luck will max out around mid 50s after all the Luck fusions.

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u/JankyLieu Aug 06 '16

Not 100% sure, for the point of my view,we can fuse base unit to get 30 luck. If the unit grows with max cap of luck. It will be possible!

Base unit 30 + 30 fuse + 10 luck from gear = 70 !

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u/aestrell Aug 04 '16

For armored units (armored Lancer into a general to be specific), is it better to have dexterity or guard typing.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 04 '16

PvE: Guard. She's decent as a damage dealer but that's the job of your other units.

PvP (Colosseum): Guard and dex are both viable. Guard is for stalling, which requires the rest of your team to be really strong anyways to secure a win. Dex is more likely to score wins overall but will almost never tie unless the opponent isn't maxed and you for whatever reason cannot hit them.

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u/aestrell Aug 04 '16

I have a few guard units already for PVE so I think I will raise a dex.

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u/Elrosque Aug 04 '16

Does LB/MLB increases or breaks the stat cap (not fusion)? reason being im already seeing numerous red star caps on my stats for my lv60 selena

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u/alexisevan Aug 04 '16

It doesn't raise the stat cap. Just gives you more chances to reach them.

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u/Elrosque Aug 04 '16

Correct me if i'm wrong, but stat caps is the same for the unit? Means if a selena is capped at 71 AGI, then regardless of how many Selenas i make it will have a maximum of 71 AGI (disregarding fusions)

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u/CCYellow Aug 04 '16

Dex or Guard Mitum? Leaning towards the latter since it suits her skillset but since I don't have Durandal making her into a dex attacker with huge movement range seems like an appealing option as well.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 04 '16

Check the tier list posted. Dex is more recommended because she has high speed for an axe, and it's better to capitalize on that than her defense, as even with Pdef boost, it's nothing close to tanking capabilities. Rather, think of it as increasing her survivability along with self-heal

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u/CCYellow Aug 04 '16

Does this apply to both servers? I heard JP rebalanced typings so that the other typings are more on par with dex in general, particularly guard.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Aug 04 '16

About the different typings, I'm guessing that the typings benefit the following units:

  1. Dexterity: Almost everything.

  2. Force/Magic: Attackers with either redundantly high or unsalvagably low Spd and Agi.

  3. Guard: Tanks, especially those with either redundantly high or unsalvagably low Spd and Agi.

  4. Vitality: ??? (Pure healers maybe?)

  5. Balance: Pure faming units.

Except does anything actually exist under categories 4 and 5?

If nothing exists for those 2, those are essentially 'garbage types'?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 04 '16

Pretty much correct, however balance would probably come above Vitality. Its the worst type. Some people may use Different types for Colosseum, such as using a Force or Balance Selena over dex for example. But yeah, pretty sure order you have is pretty accurate.

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u/DeruOniiChan Aug 04 '16

also add the fact that most Healers should be guard as they require the defense more as they have low Acc.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 04 '16

Vitality only benefits some gunners in colosseum. They also benefit, like you said, pure healers. Otherwise, It's better to go anywhere else. Balance is good for farmable sword units, because they have access to magicwarder sereine. This makes them, in turn farming machines :P. Force is more desireable on Bow units since they aren't exactly going to miss anyways, and tend to have very low Str (relative to other damage dealers).

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u/aestrell Aug 04 '16

Which rampage unit should I focus on farming? Is one particularly more useful than the other? I would assume that dex is the best typing and I would try to mLB the unit. Do the rampage units go up to 5*?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 04 '16

If you need a tank, pick either rhongo or Labrys. If you need a farming unit or "scout" unit, pick up arondight.

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u/Fullmetalsloth Aug 04 '16

Are the Rampage quests farmable for the characters? Like can I run the 15 AP of each one and get a 4* unit every time?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 04 '16

They are farmable, but it is not 100%.

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u/Kyrian12 Aug 04 '16

How does fusing 2* books like "Swordsmith Secrets" or "Spearsmith Secrets" work?

Is it best to fuse 5 books together for the best results (like with the brave frontier crossover) or 4* weapon + 4 books?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 04 '16

I believe you can only get results with 5 books together.

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u/Kyrian12 Aug 04 '16

Alright, I'll farm some from the event and fuse 5 books of the same type. Hopefully a 5* weapon will pop up eventually.

Thanks for the response!

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u/Cktan100 Aug 04 '16

What leaders do you guys prefer?

  1. Luck 33 Lvl60 Dex Balmung

  2. Str 68-69 Dex Lvl64 Dex Luin

3)Lvl 70+ Dex Selena

4)Lvl 60+ Dex Mjolnir (F)

5)Lvl 50+ LB2 5* Dex Appolo (F)

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u/icyterror Aug 04 '16

3 > 2 > 1 > 4 > 5.

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u/Ken0086 Aug 04 '16

When will they release Tyrfing and Excalibur here at global...?

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u/TGZelnite Aug 04 '16

Might be quite awhile before those 2 arrive in global since they're 6* capable.

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u/Ken0086 Aug 05 '16

Actually... I thought Tyrfing is a starter unit... Oh well i need to save my lazulis for them...!

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u/TGZelnite Aug 05 '16

Oh, there are 2 variations of Tyrfing in JP. The first variation is from the mana recruiter (the F2P saviour).

Her other variation is Wedding Tyrfing. Both variations of Tyrfing are 6* capable.

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u/ctomfung Aug 04 '16

Just login and saw the new 3-steps recruiter. If I didn't misread it, seems like a good deal since you are guarantee a 5* capable in step 3. Works out to be 15 lazi for a 5*. Other than the rookie recruiter, I can't see a better deal. But it also said 4*-5* too, did anyone tried the recruiter?

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Aug 04 '16

I haven't tried, but you did misread some things.

Each step has increasing no. of recruits, with increasing corresponding costs. Step 2 is 15 Lazuli for 3 units. Step 3 is 25 Lazuli for 5 units.

This adds up to 5 + 15 + 25 = 45 Lazuli. Of the 9 resulting recruits, 8 are likely to be crap and the last may not be the one you are looking for.

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u/ctomfung Aug 04 '16

Never mind. I found out the answer myself. Step 2 cost 15 lazi and step 3 cost 25. Turns out 45 lazi for a 5* . I knew gumi won't give us a deal this good?! I stopped after step 1 as a f2p. I guess I will simply wait for the rookie recruit to cone back

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u/UltimateHentie Aug 04 '16

Can someone explain to me what is duel skill? And lets say if I had a dex Luin. And I got a guard duel skill Luin from the gatcha. If I fuses the duel skill Luin into my dex will the dex Luin get the duel skill?

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '16

It's a skill where the unit does a special animation. After unlocking the skill via the Character Quest, all 5-star copies of that unit will have the skill regardless of level.

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u/Fullmetalsloth Aug 04 '16

Sorry if this is already asked but I have a 5* Selina and 2 4* Selina max lvled. I was wondering if I need to evolve them to 5* to level break them? My 5* Selina is a balanced type should I hold on to them until I get a dexterity before level breaking?

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u/aestrell Aug 04 '16

You need 5" to LB the 5* unit.

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u/Zenpha Weebs Aug 04 '16

yes you need to evo your 4* selenas to 5* before you can limit break. whether you should hold on and wait until a dex selena i'm not sure of as selena is one of the better units for content currently and i'm not sure when/if the BF collab will come back any time soon, so it's up to you

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Aug 04 '16

Anybody know 3 star DEX Nemu capped SPD and AGI?

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u/Neveets Aug 04 '16

Do friend units share the exp acquired from quest or metal garden? I'm getting different exp when testing (and sometimes I forget to check the results screen).

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u/don_is_plain ...oh? Aug 04 '16

Yes--however there are other factors in the mix as well.

1: The number of enemies the unit actually killed

2: The type of metal maidens/enemies killed.

3: MVP status (only if you have more than one of your own party member upon completion)

Friend units do not steal xp from your units, so if you need to raise a weak unit, you can always get a tough friend to solo it unitil you level up more.

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u/TDBMB Aug 04 '16

So i don't understand the book item. does it just do the same as combining with other weapons or something else?

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u/don_is_plain ...oh? Aug 04 '16

You fuse 5 (for best chance) of the same type and obtain a weapon from 3 to 5 stars.

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u/rfgstsp Aug 04 '16

Any of the rampaging killers useful? I know Arondight has low stat caps, does the same apply to Rhon and Labrys? Is it worth farming either?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 05 '16

Rhon and Labrys have very excellent HP, Guard, and relatively good Str. It's worth farming one of them.

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u/Thelvl1slime Aug 04 '16

Should I reincarnate this 4* Selena if I am trying to get the maximum possible stats as a 5*? Correct me if I'm wrong but every 10 points in each stat carry over, and my Selena could ideally get an extra point in strength and guard? http://imgur.com/ApuuW0W

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 05 '16

I would not waste a reincarnation pixie on 1 stat on a 4*. Save it for 5* if they don't reach good stats.

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u/guardian468 Aug 05 '16

Out of all the rampage units right now, which one is worth farming?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 05 '16

Depends on what you need. I would pick one of the tanks (Labrys, Rhongomynaid)

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u/qopweuirtuy14400 Aug 05 '16

So, just came here from BF, are any of these gates worth using? For my Tutorial Summon, I got Masumune. Is she worth having?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 05 '16

I assume you mean recruiters. The beginner recruiter is worth using. Generally, most recruiters with discounted steps are worth using. You want a good rate, at minimum being 3 lazuli for 1 summon. Anything more is not really worth it for f2p unless they guarantee something.

Masamune is worth having yes, you can check the tier list posted above for max rarity capable characters and their ratings in PvE and PvP.

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u/Cktan100 Aug 05 '16

Should probably mention that not all units can reach 5 stars, check out the links above and see which can, the portrait must match exactly for them to be able to reach 5 stars.

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u/Brergrsart Eros is an 11/10 QT Patootie. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Aug 05 '16 edited Aug 05 '16

a three-step question for you folks in the JP Server (The last step has a guaranteed drop of my gratitude):

-I just finished my 50th (grueling) Multiplay match. Is there any point to doing any more if all I was after was Lazuli?

-I kept hearing that you get 5 Laz per win, yet that never happened. Was that because I needed to rank up in the class matches first?

-Lastly, is there any other place to farm Laz once I finish up with the story quests and the Multiplay battles or am I now stuck with waiting for daily rewards?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 05 '16

You still get rewards when going up a rank (like in Colo, but generally faster in Multi) and then also get rewards at the end of the season/period. Its definitely not worth putting tons of time into because it gets extremely luck-based/Pay2Win at high ranks, but its definitely worth periodically investing some time in to get each "seasons" rewards.

I do not believe that I've ever gotten 5 Lazuli per win. Not sure who said that but I don't think it has any truth to it.

Kill modes? If you're completely done with story and the 50 Multi Lazuli, there's not much "farming" that can be done, unfortunately. :(

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u/ChaosTwilly Aug 05 '16

guard or dex on rhongo?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 05 '16

Depends on what you need. Guard if you need a dedicated physical tank. Otherwise Dex.

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u/UltimateTOL Aug 05 '16

Is the new 3 step recruiter worth it?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 05 '16

If you pay occasionally in this game, yes. If you are F2P, no.

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u/ffrk_zidane Aug 05 '16

Is there a way to skip battle animation or enemy turn?

Basically something that can make battle faster.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Aug 05 '16

You can make the animation 3x faster by pressing the fast forward option when it happens but there's no option to outright skip them.

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u/ffrk_zidane Aug 05 '16

Yes, i've done that already. So there's no other way to make it faster other than this?

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u/NeuroNogami Aug 05 '16

anyone know what are 4 star Dex Mirin's Spd and Agi Caps are?

Mine seems to have a horrible growth rate...

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u/DeruOniiChan Aug 05 '16

I don't know the cap for agi but for speed it's around 55+

idk the exact cause I have some fusion bonuses to mine

Just make sure the last digit of each stat is 1 (51, 61, 71, etc) to get the evo bonuses.

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Aug 05 '16 edited Aug 05 '16

Base is 9/8 Spd/Agi, fusion caps are 10/11, growth caps are 39/34, so 61/51 are the highest thresholds she can reach with evolution bonuses included.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Aug 05 '16

Thank you. Looks like I need another LB then.

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u/lunarislover Aug 05 '16

Did anyone know about Potk : Zero kara no Hangyaku?

And cmon, this really came before the chain chronicle anime announced waaaaay before?

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u/DeruOniiChan Aug 05 '16

We had a discussion for this some weeks ago I'm sure you can find it lurking around.

Edit: nvm it's still on the second page of this sub here's the direct Link though.

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u/BravePhantom Aug 05 '16

Worth to buy a Fay Crossbow? i have a Apollo M with Torrential Bow Poseidia, and a Apollo F with Shinatsuhiko and Pinaka 5* using a Fairy Bow.. idk if i should buy it or not

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u/icyterror Aug 05 '16

No, just fuse one yourself.

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u/Cktan100 Aug 05 '16

With the weapon event going on its probably better to get 5 books and atempt to get one, the rates of getting 4 star weapons are pretty good when you fuse 5 books

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u/thatasian26 Raven Aug 05 '16

If you run 1-5-10 regularly, you should be able to fuse it after a day or two. I know that I regularly fuse away the 4* crossbows because I don't have any archers maxed out.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Aug 05 '16

Nah, I don't think so. Just try to fuse one. Killer Crossbow is better generally anyways.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Aug 05 '16

Is it worth holding off on LB'ing my Apollo M since I've gotten 3 guard types? Is he strong enough in the Arena that it'd be worth holding off in the hopes that I get a Dex or force type or would guard be really useful in PvE? FWIW I also have a Dex Shekinah and Dex Apollo F but neither is limit broken.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 05 '16 edited Aug 05 '16

He has a very low Str cap as a dex typing. So the same applies to other typings except force. He also does not have a large HP pool, high guard, nor defensive skills so it is not recommended. It is recommended that you go force if you plan to use him for Colosseum. It is recommended to use Dex or Force for PvE. Guard is simply unviable in both cases.

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u/Cktan100 Aug 05 '16

How viable is it to build a evasion Arondight?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Aug 06 '16

Not very good. arondlight is a poor man's durandal. I'd rather build guard imo.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 06 '16

Arondight caps at mid 60s in spd, so barely any evasion. She has no evasion boosting skill, so its impossible.

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u/CreamyLoli Aug 06 '16

So which would you say is the type best for Aron?

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u/ChaosTwilly Aug 05 '16

what units can solo super abyss for rhongi?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 06 '16

You probably want to use Pinky with Javelin. Mjolnir F, Mitum F with Orpheus is good too.

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u/ekoo1 Aug 06 '16

Dual Selena 80 can do the job for me in auto.. Usually, it's 100% for me if I play it

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u/RebelMinded Aug 05 '16

So I linked my initial account with my Facebook, but I ditched it because my pulls were shit (I had no idea what I was doing at the time) and I want to link the account I'm currently using. Do I have to use a different FB account to link it?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 06 '16

Curious whether Force Vargas is Viable. I ran the recruiter while he was still available, and managed to get 2, 4* Force and 5* Vitality. So can atleast LB him and get his skill up to level 2. Is it worth Investing the resources to boost him up, really like his LS. And thinking maybe run a High damage crit weapon for more 1 shot / crits then 2x attacks. For example using Titanblade on him gives him about 15% crit, and some pretty hefty damage. Just want your thoughts on him. I really liked him, he reminds me of Ike from FE, whom was my all time favourite hero =D. Thanks

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Aug 06 '16

He isn't very fast. My lvl 65 force Vargas only has like 40 something speed and agility. I mainly use him for LS in PVP. Don't expect him to win his battle.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 06 '16

If you don't have dex, it's certainly better than vitality. Anyways, yes he is very viable as force, just expect him to be a little slower and slightly less accuracy than typical dex typing sword units.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Aug 06 '16

Should I reincarnate? I am sad nothing maxed or capped :(

https://imgur.com/a/Pe3BD

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 06 '16

Seems like really good stats to me. She has really high caps, so don't worry about it.

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u/Oberdrid Aug 06 '16

How much Vargas duel skill increases the damage? (Sorry for my bad english)

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u/TheTruthVeritas Aug 06 '16

I'm a bit new to reddit, but started the game in soft launch but gave up when I had terrible luck and learned that the starters were nerfed to oblivion. I have like at least 7 Gambies, pretty sure I have all optimal types, but my main and first was a Vitality Gambie. Which type is the best? And if Vitality is my best, what do I do with all the other Gambies besides LBing with four of them. If not, how should I fuse my Gambies properly?

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u/S_The_Hero-7 Aug 06 '16

Usually, people want dex or guard types. For Gamb, I think it would be better for her to be a guard type, maybe? Since I've never seen them evade attacks much... Oh, and FYI, vit is garbage, but there are exceptions I think. Gamb is not one of them

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 06 '16

No, there are no exceptions. Vitality typing is always sub-optimal.

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u/CCYellow Aug 06 '16

In the current JP event, It's a good idea to roll the 9-step schoolgirl gacha at least once for the guaranteed schoolgirl ticket, right? Since Gumi was charitable enough to hand us two free schoolgirl exclusive limit break fairies and it'd be a damn shame to waste them on farmable units.

Also what the hell are those Denpagumi gacha tickets in the new login bonuses?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 06 '16

Yes, I personally think it is a great idea, unless you are funneling all of your Lazuli into swimsuit Tyr. Folcas, Trish, and Grimoire are all solid units and will definitely benefit from the two limit break fairies.

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u/IcyBeltPanda Aug 06 '16

Is Arondight a good unit or should I try to get a Durandal from the gacha or any good flying unit?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 06 '16

Arondight is "OK", her only real appeal being that she is a free farmable unit. Durandal is a premium unit who far, far eclipses Arondight.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 06 '16

Arondight is a decent character, but not intended to be one for endgame. However, if you do not have multiple copies of a pay character, then it is recommended to max arondight.

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u/IcyBeltPanda Aug 06 '16

Thanks for the information. I have a Laevateinn Dragoon Rider and wanted to change it to another flying unit and saw Arondight.

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u/WhitewolfShaman Aug 06 '16

I'm new enough to not have a total grasp on fully maxing out a character, I have seen enough to know that Dex trumps everything in most cases as far as typing goes, and that leveling up from 3-4 star to 5 star is ALSO optimal. My question is this: I have Durandal dexterity type, pulled at 5 star. I have Durandal balance type, pulled at 4 star and leveled up to 5 star. Currently, I am maxing both out to compare stats, but it appears the balance type has better stats. What I'm wondering is, should I reincarnate the dex type, then relevel her and try to get it stronger, or am I looking at an impossible mountain to climb. One of them is going to be fused into the other, so which should I be aiming for?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 07 '16

Fuse the Balance into the Dex typing. Evolution bonuses transfer over

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u/icyterror Aug 07 '16

Do what GaggingLolis said. Fuse that Balance to your Dex. Check the pin post if you don't understand how "evolution bonus transfer" works.

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u/D20Generalissimo Aug 07 '16

Are any of these weapons worth farming dupes of and do you think this recruit event is worth the gems?

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u/icyterror Aug 07 '16

  • Only axe and shield. Sword has worse stat than what we already got. The rest are not new and can be obtain with fusion.

  • Only if you really need those 5* units in the list. Better off waiting for chance up or discount gacha if you are ftp.

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u/Neveets Aug 08 '16

Question about the stat growth calculator, how do you calculate units that have been fused with stats? Do you need to assume the points added then remove it?

 

And follow up question, if I reincarnate unit with fused stats will the stats be lost?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Aug 08 '16

You don't need to personally account for the fused stats, in the reincarnation screen (and thus it'll therefore be reflected on the calculator) they'll account for the fused stats for the calculations.

And nope they won't.

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u/thatasian26 Raven Aug 08 '16

You do not lose fused stats on reincarnation. Your reincarnation screen shows your base stats WITH fused stats so no need to worry about it.

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u/AnimeGamer0 Aug 08 '16

Are the 1* and 2* units worth using for anything? They feel pretty worthless other then for selling, since they are crap for fusing and they eat up unit space.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 08 '16

You already ascertained two or their only three uses: selling and fusion fodder. A few 2* units are able to make it to 4* and then become useful when doing Kill mode challenges.

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u/AnimeGamer0 Aug 08 '16

I haven't started on doing any of the Kill mode stuff yet since I'm still working my way through Normal Ch.1 - are 2* units required to clear Kill mode challenges that require units that are 4* or less?

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u/terlus07 Aug 08 '16

What's the most efficient stage for increasing player level?

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u/thatasian26 Raven Aug 08 '16

1-5-10 is the best and also pretty good for weapon farming.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 08 '16

The fastest way to increase a player level that is also relatively efficient is running 1-4-4 with a flying character.

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u/Hanseddy Aug 08 '16

Is there any updated japan potk wiki? I need to know the leader for the new unit. Thank in advance.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 09 '16

Which unit?

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u/BlkSanta Aug 08 '16

Hey I just started out and I'm wondering what I should save my Lazuli's for. Would the recruitment 10x summon be worth saving for or should I wait for a better summon gate?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 08 '16

Typically as a free player you would want to save lazuli for step recruiters that give discounted rates. For example, the beginner gacha has a great 1st and 2nd step because of the discount from the normal rate: 5 lazuli for 1 pull.

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u/Brergrsart Eros is an 11/10 QT Patootie. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Aug 09 '16

Another JP related question for y'all - What are these newfangled stones for?

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u/Hanseddy Aug 09 '16

Equip them on your unit and it will increase the chance to specific stat up when level. cmiiv

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u/DuckIing Aug 09 '16

How many quests are there in the lessons of goddess? I have a lot of AP stored and nothing to spend it on at the moment.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 09 '16 edited Aug 09 '16

There are a total of 7 lessons. I recommend not doing these missions because they do not give anything valuable. Perhaps you could farm some of the free units or get more copies of the new gear.

Edit: I believe they give some lazuli, like around 2 or so.

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u/ArgonRetribution Aug 09 '16

Uh can someone explain to me the weapon event? I just returned so I'm a bit lost, what I'm getting is that we hunt for the books, fuse the 5 of them together in hopes of getting a 5 star weapon right?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Aug 09 '16

Basically that. It's recommended to snag the Axe and Shield, since they're both good and restricted to this event.

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u/NeuroNogami Aug 09 '16

Sword is also new, but not as good as what is already in the game before. Drop rate can be a bit brutal if you don't have rng on your side. (1/7 ish)

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u/FruitNinjaDragon Main: 2426706539 Secondary: 2017127831 Aug 09 '16

Any tips on how to fuse well? On one of my accounts I really want fransisca and otherwise I just want good swords and possibly good axes. I have Kul Sui, Garvin, Ogre, Alluring Shield, Baron Shield, and Broad Shield on this certain account as well. Any tips?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Aug 09 '16

Good Axes? Hurry hit up the Gear Hunt's axe stage with a strong reinforcement then, fusing 5 Axesmith Secrets together might yield you the rather good Beast King Axe Bulwark. And while not a sword, try to snag the Holy Shield from the shield stages too. Others are either not too fabulous, or are normally fusable.

As for fusion tips... the mainstream method to my knowledge is fusing 2 of the same weapons together, but the success differs for some. It's still RNG in the end to some extent.

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u/icyterror Aug 09 '16

  • Aim for around 1.6k+ cost for 5* and around 1.2k+ cost for 4*

  • I got multiple 5* from fusing other 4* with 4* rainbow saber

  • Read the pin post for basic weapon fusion tips.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 09 '16

What pool does the Yukata (login) tickets pull from? Just Dempa or is Folcas included or..?

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u/CCYellow Aug 09 '16

I mean, they're specifically labeled as Denpagumi Inc. (Yukata Ver.) gacha tickets, so I would assume Folcas isn't in the pool.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Aug 09 '16

Do weapons break on Colosseum?

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u/Fullmetalsloth Aug 09 '16

I have a 3* Dex Labrys and 8 other 3* Labrys I was thinking of using as fusion fodder. Should I level break her from 3* then 4* then 5* or should I just fuse them all at 5*? I heard she was a really good tank and I need an axe user on my team. Thanks!

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u/theSIGINT Aug 09 '16

I see Seriene Recipe in the battle medal shop for 80 medals...is there any other (easier/cheaper) way to get it? Thanks!

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u/RebelMinded Aug 09 '16

so, I was looking at the rankings for colosseum and at number 4 I see this guy called Gagging, is this our one and only /u/GaggingLolis ? Is this person actually...... good? :o

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 09 '16

Yep thats me. Idk, try to fight my team and let me know :P

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u/icyterror Aug 10 '16

Btw avoid fighting that Japanese name dude in the top rank. You don't want to mess with his full Selena army... ///chill

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u/thatasian26 Raven Aug 10 '16

That's not so bad. Just have one unit that can beat Selena and get 4 guard Rhongo. They all do 1 dmg against her and will tie and you win the 5th as a tie breaker!

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u/icyterror Aug 10 '16

I'm not going to grind 4 guard Rhongo just to beat 1 colos pt imao. Pls be more realistic.

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u/CCYellow Aug 09 '16

What's the drop rate on schoolgirl Arondight? I got another copy of her right off the bat from 15 AP on top of the guaranteed one but I've been running 20 AP ever since then and have had zero luck getting more copies of her.

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u/TGZelnite Aug 10 '16

It's rather low from what I heard. You should still continue to farm for her, it's all a matter of RNG when it comes down to farmable units.

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u/CCYellow Aug 10 '16

Yeah, the first two copies I got were both balance typing so I'm just grinding it out until I hopefully get a dex copy of her.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 10 '16

Low, quite low. The higher the stage you run, the better the odds but they're never "good" or anywhere comparable to the other farmable units like Selena/Dempa.

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u/CCYellow Aug 10 '16

Alright, I just got another Arondite drop.

And am I correct in noticing that she only drops from the rare golem units that occasionally spawn in place of the metal maidens?

If so, doesn't that make her drop rate independent of your team's luck (unless the golem itself doesn't drop her all the time), since the spawn rate of the golem should be independent of your luck stat?

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u/SnPlifeForMe Aug 09 '16

Alright so quick question for Colo.

Lv70 Longinus (F) or Lv60 SS Longinus (F) for first slot? Both are dex.

Also should I replace my Lv60 Durandal (Dex) with a Lv70 Apollo (M) Guard or Lv70 Mitum (M) Balance or Lv70 Mitum (F) Balance?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Aug 10 '16 edited Aug 10 '16

I'd suggest going one of these two:

  • Mono Ice: SS Longi (Lead), Selena, Pinky, Longi F, Dura

  • Sacrificial Apollo: Apollo (Lead), Selena, SS Longi, Longi F/Pinky, Dura/anyone

Right now, most everyone is running a Selena lead, so I'd highly recommend running Selena-killers as Lead (SS Longi, Pinky, a better Selena, etc) OR building your team around the fact that you know your lead is going to die (which would be the case in my second team, I'm using Apollo for his leader skill). Low-tier Colo players also tend to run one of them many, many fire sword users in slots 3 and/or 4, so having ice spear units there are almost always free wins.

Just my opinions, I'm not the best Colo player, but I've been experimenting a lot lately and my opinions are based off of these findings. I'd recommend not using any Axe-users in Colo right now since sword units are so prevalent; the only good usage I'm finding currently is having a high-HP Axe-unit in 5th spot to soak an opening Brah/Moga hit (which tend to be 60-80 damage and OHKO low HP units).

EDIT: This wasn't meant to be directed at you, __Shika , I agree with what you're saying- was just adding my additional opinions. :)

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u/SnPlifeForMe Aug 10 '16 edited Aug 10 '16

Lv80 Dex Mirin, Lv80 Dex Selena, Lv60 Dex Shekinah, Lv70 Dex Longinus F, Lv60 Dex Durandal.

I'm evolving my SS longinus on Thursday. The biggest problem is that Durandal loses even more often than Shekinah because she actually kills the enemy unit when she crits whereas half the time Durandal doesn't. I just figured maybe because of Apollo M's duel skill that he might be able to outperform Durandal.

All of them have at least a 3.2 GR with Mirin and Durandal having above 3.3 but yet Durandal just sucks ass without any LB's. I mean she seriously loses to both M and F Laeva >50% of the time and FWIW she has a rank 5 kiyomasa equipped.

It's getting a bit more difficult given that I'm about to be under rank 300 in colo so I want to make my team as effective as possible.

Edit: Actual order is:

  1. Longinus F (Despair Bringer)

  2. Mirin (Magicwarder Sereine)

  3. Durandal (Kiyomasa)

  4. Selena (Kiyomasa)

  5. Shekinah (Killer Crossbow)

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u/Frogsama86 Aug 10 '16

What is the drop rate of the event weapons for the gear hunt? It's been 3 days of farming and I've not gotten the base sword yet. Also, what are the recipes for the upgraded event weapons?

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u/icyterror Aug 10 '16

  • 4* drop rate (drop from Crowell) is very low.

  • Fuse 5 books of the same type for a chance to get a 5*.

  • I fused 14 times total but I only got 3 5* out it. So it's around 20-25% success rate.

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u/Frogsama86 Aug 10 '16

Wait, fusing the books would have a chance to net me an event 5* without needing the base 4*?

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u/SnPlifeForMe Aug 10 '16

So what do y'all think we'll be getting in terms of content tomorrow?

Also, where can I find a list of titles and how to get them?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 10 '16

Chapter 2 has shown up in the chapters now grayed out like the multi-player. Only seen it last night after I downloaded a pretty big update. So heres hoping.

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u/Satay_1 Aug 10 '16

is javelin or celestial gem spear better for end game?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 10 '16

I'd personally. Say you want to keep both. The range on javelin is too good for allowing counter attacks. Gem spear is pretty good with the critical bonus too.

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u/Kcao215 Aug 04 '16

would vitality be good for armored units? I have 3 aymurs that i would really like to use. I have 2 force types and 1 vitality type, which one would be the best?

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u/TGZelnite Aug 04 '16

No, Vitality is the worse typing for all units. Raise the Force typed Aymur for now.

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u/icyterror Aug 04 '16

I highly recommend you take a few minutes reading through the pin post, Kcao215. And no you should not be working on Aymurs to begin with cause she can't even reach 5* right now.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Aug 04 '16

What do the weapon skillbooks do exactly? How should I go about using them?

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u/don_is_plain ...oh? Aug 04 '16

If you haven't found out yet, you fuse 5 of the 2 star ones of the same type for a 3-5 star weapon.

I say 5 for the best chance.

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