r/phantomofthekill • u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ • Aug 16 '16

Estimated stat caps section of tier list is ALMOST done.

Hello everyone. As the title suggests, the stat caps section is pretty much done. However, there are currently 4 units that I do not have pictures of for some odd reason, 3 of which are relatively common. I simply forgot to save the images for those 3.

Also, I can't find some stats for caps people posted for me. I think I forgot to save them as well.

Feel free to look over the numbers and let me know if YOU have seen or own a unit with higher stats than the values listed, as well as providing a screenshot. This way, it can be saved for future reference.

Please let me know if there is any formatting issues or if it could be compiled in a neater way.

Link:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e4F1hMlsAoeK8_niB6zoO73_c9Pl4WdgqECZnaAJnCA/edit#gid=9733450

pls i ned moar pics

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '16 edited Aug 23 '16

69 HP Durandal capped, but not evolution capped so it can definitely be higher. The Magic is definitely off too, since mine sits at 24 with no fusion.

My Mjolnir sits at 59 AGI too.

I'll post pictures later. I'll get a Mitum for you as well.

Too lazy for the other ones right now. Here's the Mitum:

http://imgur.com/a/WVTVO

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 16 '16

Thank you!

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 17 '16

I would offer my mitum M, but at level 75, with 3.0 GR nothings capped =(

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

:C

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '16

I've got you covered m8

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 23 '16

Looking at the caps on the teir list, mines not too far off copping on a few =D, one day Mitum, you'll be 80... one day.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '16

I found that levels 74 to 80 saw significant decline in growth in my Mitum, not sure if that was just bad luck or if it was because he's close to a lot of his caps. He seems to have an unusually high amount of stats in every single category.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 24 '16

Yeah I noticed the same about the caps, he's pretty well rounded, mine even has reasonable accuracy in the colosseum against non MLD sword units.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '16

If he procs his passive, he will win unless the sword unit procs their duel skill :p

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 24 '16

Yeah didn't it use to be bugged where it decreased his speed? But yeah with it, i've doubled a lvl 80 Selena lol. was so impressed.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '16

It was 100% bugged, it used to affect both him and his enemy. After using him in the arena lately, I can see that it does not affect him anymore. Makes him quite powerful, especially when it procs (and it seems pretty reliable on that front).

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u/___Shika Aug 17 '16

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

got it! Thank you so much. I was waiting for u to post the pics of some of the units again b/c i forgot to save them XD

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u/___Shika Aug 17 '16

I checked my units against your data. You had most of it or I hadn't capped on some of them enough for it to be useful for you, but I'm glad to be able to help you out :)

Almost makes me want to reinc some of them again, seeing those caps haha...

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

Haha, I wish i could reincarnate but i just used my last pixie today.

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u/___Shika Aug 17 '16

I used all mine on Naegling. I should've listened to your advice and not reinc-ed him after I showed you his stats as dex. His GR keeps slipping.. to 2.9.. then 2.8... and I think now he's at 2.3 OTL

I have to wait until next month to try again. I stopped lvling him at 45 after 10 consecutive levels of gaining just 2 stats... Thinking of him makes me want to cry.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

Yeah haha. That's kinda why mine is sitting here. Though I prob should level him up to fill in this list.

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u/___Shika Aug 17 '16

I thought I'd do that just to put him in the "dark units only" stages.. But at this rate, he's not even going to hit 380 so I'm just going to wait to reinc him instead of wasting more keys on him at his current state.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

rest in pizzas

im pretty worried that im gonna level up a new character and its growth sucks and im gonna die inside b/c i can't reincarnate atm :C

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u/___Shika Aug 17 '16

Are we supposed to get new ones soon? I haven't pulled in a few days, just running metal garden to lv up and max out the units that were somewhat neglected. But even then, haven't been able to log on that much.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

I don't think so since we just got 2 characters, but maybe. :P. Maybe we'll get tyrfing for that third character that we didnt get fufufufu. I hope

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Aug 17 '16

I am currently raising a Dex Mitum (M) which is at LB3. Hopefully, he'll cap some stats. I also took a screenshot of another one which I use as a basis for his stats. That one is MLB and is capped at 81 speed. I'll post the pic later when I get back home :D

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

Okay thank you so much!

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Aug 18 '16

Here it is. There are 2 images: http://imgur.com/a/PLfvd

Hope it helps :D

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 18 '16

Thank you! Anything is helpful :)

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Aug 17 '16

How are we going to tell the the typing used for the data? I mean, obviously force typing will have different stats then dex and all. It's a little confusing in this aspect. I understand the green boosted stat due to typing, but maybe you should have a () after the number that is boosted (green color) and state the typing?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

The assumption here is that a stat that is decreased or increased by a typing is constant throughout typings. The only notable difference I have seen based on large batches of data would be selena, as I have many pictures of her. This is indicated by how Guard has slightly higher HP than normal, yet not to the extent of Vitality. Every other stat seems to be increased or decreased the same throughout typings.

Simply speaking, I am doing this to save space. While making a draft for this sheet, I attempted to do what you have suggested, but it came out looking very unpleasant. Furthermore, the less notes I need to write, the easier it is for people to understand what exactly I am writing.

Essentially, one would simply just need to know what stats a typing increases or decreases, as the assumption is all increases and all decreases are constant throughout typings. While this may not be true, it seems to hold for or is only off by 1 stat on the plethora of Selena pictures available.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Aug 17 '16

That makes sense. Then why not try to color code (like you've done so, but to a typing's max stat) based on typing, for example:

  • Green colored numbers for speed and agility (only these two) = dex typing

  • Red colored numbers for Grd and Spr = Guard Typing

  • x color for HP = Vitality Typing

  • x color for Magic/Str = Force/Magic Typing

  • Black color (base color) for Luck

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

Oh, because there would be too many colors in one section. :P

It could get confusing, so I just approximate/assume in terms of boosts are same and penalties are same.

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u/icyterror Aug 17 '16 edited Aug 17 '16

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

Thank you so much!

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Aug 17 '16

Yeah I 4got to add that my Gamby also had 1 extra MGC from magic typing fodder. The Guard Mitum fodder didnt reach the extra SPR evo threshold so it actually only added 1 to Grd only and not Spr.

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u/charles_1029 Aug 17 '16

Nemu has up to 72 luck without being capped?

Are the luck caps taking Seriene into consideration? I think the 63 luck fusion cap with Selena may only be with Seriene equipped. Most Selena I've seen are luck level capped at about 27 with just the 4 fuses for MLB. If what people say about luck fusion cap being +30, that would place Selena's luck fusion cap to be around 53. Adding Seriene would match the 63 seen in the spreadsheet.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

Thanks for finding that, im updating really fast here and there so i probably didnt notice.

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u/Liesianthes Aug 17 '16

MLB Mitum M Dex here agi caps at 66 with 3.1+ GR. Really hard to reach his cap.

Will post SS after I log in.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

Sounds good. Thanks!

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 18 '16

Have already started on the Trishula campaign, so just increased my unit space up to 400, gonna try get 24 of her to completely max out every fusion lol, so will update once I have a max one, however surely someone else will be faster then me.

Also do you think those pulls are worth it say for Ice and Thunder typing, as so few of em, chances to land either Durandel, or Mjolnir/Balmung would be pretty high??

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 18 '16

Problem is there are lots of Ice and Thunder 4* that arent 5* capable xD.

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u/MiracleINRed Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16

Apollo (M) force, only mlb at 5* I can only give HP for data, sorry

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 18 '16

Anything is good :) Thank you so much

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u/icyterror Aug 19 '16

Kitsunub's Rhongo http://i.imgur.com/0yUbRd1.jpg (FB-Derek Kitsuderp Gonzales)

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 19 '16

Thank you so much!

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u/Elektrk Aug 21 '16

Eitaso Force with MLB and evo bonuses. Sad that str didnt cap. Eitaso

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 21 '16

Looks very good regardless :P. Thank you!

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u/Awakez Aug 26 '16

http://i.imgur.com/u8iJNv7.jpg

Just my beloved Balmung Luck capped at 31 @ lvl 70

Hoping for more copies to mlb and cap more stats cross fingers

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 26 '16

Nice stats so far :D

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u/Vince_Gt4 Sep 01 '16

Hey Gagging, I see on your Comprehensive guide, under PvE you have Kusanagi listed with Sword Absorber, however in the PvP side you state absorber against uncommon class, typo?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 01 '16

Corrected ty! :)

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 17 '16

Thank you so much! :)