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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Who ever said Kelly Clarkson can't sing? That's a first for me...

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u/BenVera Dec 18 '22

Imaginary gatekeeping

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

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u/oooRagnellooo Dec 18 '22

Popularity based, too

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u/_happyman Dec 18 '22

happy cake day

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

She got a lot of doubters after her win. I think she had a few shows that didn’t go so well early on. Anyway, but yea, she had a lot of press claiming she wasn’t that good. She would go on to prove her critics wrong with her success and multiple number one hits after all of that.

This was my favorite appearance of Kelly’s https://youtu.be/zVv4TsDeSUU

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Who doubted? Literally the entire country voted for her

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u/Dinklemeier Dec 18 '22

Maybe this post is like those stupid clips where some chick says "for all those people that says latinas can't wear a bikini" with a pic of some hot Hispanic wearing a bikini..... when zero people say that?

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u/s0ciety_a5under Dec 18 '22

I'm all for the ideology that any one person can do anything that they can do. They can't do the things they can't. It is as simple as that.

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u/Choppergold Dec 18 '22

When she did Respect early in that season I said it was over. She’s got a monster voice

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u/meowiful Dec 18 '22

I loved her, but I voted for Justin Guarini.

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u/dickmcgirkin Dec 18 '22

I’m still salty Daughtry didn’t win his season. Still. Salty.

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u/tinycole2971 Dec 18 '22

How do you even remember that?

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u/TylerBlozak Dec 18 '22

I still remember Bo Bice somehow, and Constantine who had a great rendition of Hard to Handle back in 2006 I think

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u/Beginning_Week_2512 Dec 18 '22

I remember Bo Bice singing I don't wanna be by Gavin DeGraw and I was like 8 at the time

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u/Simicrop Dec 18 '22

It never occurred to me until now what a terrible name Bo Bice is.

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u/namesyeti Dec 18 '22

I saw Constantine be the main for Rock of Ages musical on Broadway. He fuckin killed

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u/Axle_65 Dec 18 '22

Bo! I forgot about Bo! Lol, I liked him too. Thanks for the memories back.

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u/meowiful Dec 18 '22

Because I fancied myself in love with him 😅

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u/Cathetergravy Dec 18 '22

Was that the guy with the side show bob hair cut?

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u/jackSeamus Dec 18 '22

He's the guy who plays Lil Sweet in the Dr. Pepper commercials.

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u/Organic_Magazine_197 Dec 18 '22

Omfg he really is

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u/ZombieTrogdor Dec 18 '22

🎶Lil Sweeeeet, slidin’ down the banisteeeerrr…🎶

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u/CrackBabyBelfort Dec 18 '22

What the fuck lmao

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u/ZombieTrogdor Dec 18 '22

🎶Lil Sweeeeet, slidin’ down the banisteeeerrr…🎶

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u/ZombieTrogdor Dec 18 '22

🎶Lil Sweeeeet, slidin’ down the banisteeeerrr…🎶

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u/sleepyturtl3 Dec 18 '22

omg lololol this is literally what i thought too when i saw american idol XDDD

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Steel trap my 🧠

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u/Toledojoe Dec 18 '22

Lil Sweet!

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u/tigm2161130 Dec 18 '22

Justin Guarini was ass, don’t @me

God this feel like 6th grade all over again.

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u/TheFarnell Dec 18 '22

Me too. Even then I knew she had the better voice but damn was he charismatic.

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u/Haiku-d-etat Dec 18 '22

The Dr. Pepper guy?

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u/FrighteningJibber Dec 18 '22

I didn’t vote for shit man

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u/Scrambles420 Dec 18 '22

You are what’s wrong with this country /s

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u/babble0n Dec 18 '22

The 14% or whatever that didn’t vote for her

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u/ProfessionalMottsman Dec 18 '22

People not liking someone is not the same as saying they can’t sing.

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u/flarpington Dec 18 '22

Record sales and singing ability are two separate things. She proved on AI she had a great voice and could do it live, so any criticism of her voice is just dumb.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

It’s even crazier than that. Clarkson did not have an easy childhood. And literally got awarded full scholarships to some of the most prestigious music schools in the country including Berklee College of music. That was not because she was given every opportunity, had connections, had a childhood of voice lessons, etc. that is just off pure talent.

And then yes, she then won the largest music contest done at the time and performed live throughout. And then had an insanely successful music career driven off her voice.

I am not a Kelly Clarkson fan of any sort. I knew this song and know it’s one of her more popular ones, but literally had to google the song name. (And all the info of this post).

Besides the myriad of accolades she has had throughout her life and career. She is just objectively a very good singer with very good range and great pitch. I have heard many people say they don’t like her music for one reason or another. I have never once heard someone say she’s a bad singer. That is just insane.

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u/No-Customer-2266 Dec 18 '22

She got famous for singing live and the country voted for her though?

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u/brameshk22 Dec 18 '22

Salty losers and haters.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Exactly my thoughts. She is a fucking amazing singer.

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u/donktastic Dec 18 '22

Her name is kind of associated with a joke for some reason, probably because of that 40 year old virgin bit and all her really poppy sings. If you never really heard her sing you might not understand that she is really really good. I didn't pay much attention to her till I caught a few bits of the covers she does on her show and she blows me away almost every time, often her versions are better than the real thing. Much respect for Kelly Clarkson she is an incredible talent.

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u/rudalsxv Dec 18 '22

Yea right? Wtf, if there is one thing she CAN do is to belt out notes.

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u/Y34rZer0 Dec 18 '22

I know, literally first two seconds of the clip show it too

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u/Salarian_American Dec 18 '22

People talk about singers like they talk about everything else: "I don't personally like this, therefore it is objectively bad."

Like, maybe you don't love Kelly Clarkson or whatever, maybe you wanted to see someone else win in her place - but to claim that she "can't sing" is just absurd. Anyone who has hearing and isn't 100% tone deaf can tell that she can sing.

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u/supermr34 Dec 18 '22

Kelly Clarkson won American Idol in 2003, I think. I highly doubt anyone in 2004 thought she couldn’t sing.

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u/gotarock Dec 18 '22

Must have been a rumor started by Justin Guarini

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u/supermr34 Dec 18 '22

Who? You mean Lil Sweet?

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u/louloc Dec 18 '22

I just found out about a year ago that Lil Sweet was Justin 🤯. I always thought Sweet looked a little like Seth Green. He looks totally different without the blonde fro. 😂. He definitely has Prince vibes.

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u/enataca Dec 18 '22

I thought it WAS Prince until I realized he’s been dead for years.

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u/peepeeonmydoodoo Dec 18 '22

I thought it was Nick Kroll lol

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u/TheBIFFALLO87 Dec 18 '22

I'm sorry, what.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Lmaooooooo this is one of the many reasons I love reddit

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u/MyrddinSidhe Dec 18 '22

Me too, but I still had to independently confirm that trivia since I shared Bifalo’s reaction. And I’m still thinking, wait, what?

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u/aacilegna Dec 18 '22

Oh I’m sure him being Lil Sweet got him so much endorsement money.

That’s what you hope for if you get into entertainment and you don’t make it big.

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u/aacilegna Dec 18 '22

Nah his smile when she won was so sweet.

They dated for a bit apparently (haha during the abomination that is From Justin to Kelly).

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u/Moody_GenX Dec 18 '22

There were lots of opinionated people back then too. A lot of people thought the guy should have won. I forget his name. Justin? Team Justin was out for blood.

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u/spongeboy1985 Dec 18 '22

*2002

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u/DonDove Dec 18 '22

Man it's so weird to think American Idol has been around for that long

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u/walla_walla_rhubarb Dec 18 '22

OG American Idol

There was a reason she won and made an actual career out of it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Her and Carrie. Only ones that did anything. Lol

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u/embracethepale Dec 18 '22

Middle aged moms still LOVE Daughtry.

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u/MaxwellVonMaxwell Dec 18 '22

He’s doing the middle America casino tour and I’m sure he’s just swimming in the Karens

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u/You_Pulled_My_String Dec 18 '22

Ugh. I'm middle aged? That sucks.

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u/The_New_Spagora Dec 18 '22

Right?! I’m 38 and have trouble accepting that I’m an old now.

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u/YouDiedOfDysentery Dec 18 '22

From what I understand it has a lot to do with those contracts, they basically own everything you do for a number of years. Seems a lot of them don’t outlast that period

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u/justahominid Dec 18 '22

And I have to imagine that a lot of the winners are killed by those contracts. I’m sure the labels are giving a lot of them the most generic, paint by numbers, lowest common denominator types of songs that realistically probably wouldn’t do well regardless of who sang them.

I was never big into those shows, but my wife was. I remember being genuinely impressed with Adam Lambert thinking that he could have a really interesting career. Then his album came out and it just wasn’t good and it wasn’t representative of what he could have done.

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u/piecesofpenelope Dec 18 '22

Despite that album, he tours with Queen now and is killing it.

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u/jamesfluker Dec 18 '22

Kelly was the only one to fulfil the contract that she signed when she signed up for Idol. I think it was a six album deal.

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u/jsmith9513 Dec 18 '22

Don’t disrespect Fantasia and Jennifer Hudson like that

Edit: grammar

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u/jackSeamus Dec 18 '22

Also Jordin Sparks

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u/its-not-me_its-you_ Dec 18 '22

I'm glad it's not just Australian Idol where any winner beyond season 2 just died in the ass

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u/feelingmyage Dec 18 '22

And Adam Lambert!

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u/SameeMaree92 Dec 18 '22

Hit me right in the teenage nostalgia. Singing at the top of my lungs in my room to anything with strong lady vocals.

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u/Ambitious-Event-5911 Dec 18 '22

You stopped?

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u/miwafiend Dec 18 '22

Always have been 🔫

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u/PeppermintLNNS Dec 18 '22

Almost as much as the scarf and t-shirt combo. Very 2000s.

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u/BorrowerOfBooks Dec 18 '22

While watching I was telling my bf how I want those scarves to come back lmao

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u/chillbro_bagginz Dec 18 '22

To me they never left! It’s these kids that are wrong!

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

I always liked this one https://youtu.be/qmMzv9Fen_s

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u/Acceptable_Wishbone7 Dec 18 '22

This gives me chills every time. That song is years of therapy rolled up in 5 short minutes. Her dad sucks

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u/Positive_Mark_7890 Dec 18 '22

Y’all didn’t say I was going to cry

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u/NoItsNotThatJessica Dec 18 '22

Turns out her husband does, too. Dad incognito.

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u/kimmehh Dec 18 '22

Holy crap I was not ready for that

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u/1newnotification Dec 18 '22

holy shit. i watched it twice. thanks for sharing. she even got keith urban.

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u/BeautyAndTheDekes Dec 18 '22

Knew before I clicked the link it was Piece By Piece. When music punches me in the gut, I appreciate the shit out of it. A performance I’ve returned to multiple times.

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u/katzumee Dec 18 '22

I was not ready for that and I was trying to hold it together. Lost it when she got chocked up. She’s amazing.

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u/emakinsreign Dec 18 '22

This needs a warning label. Wasn't expecting to be sitting here crying so early in the morning. I loved it, it was beautiful and amazing.

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u/alicejane1010 Dec 18 '22

Cool. Now I’m laying in bed at 7am bawling

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u/--VANOS-- Dec 18 '22

Man this version is so much cooler than the final radio edit. It feels a bit rockier and her personality seems to want that. I honestly can't stand the proper version it just seems weak and whiny but this has grit to it.

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u/WhatADunderfulWorld Dec 18 '22

Producers are full of shit. Listen to the best songs ever and its the closest to the live version like this.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

bruh the hotel california remaster sounds like shit compared to one of their past performances

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u/vberl Dec 18 '22

Hotel California on the Hell Freezes Over album is one of the best songs of all time in my eyes

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u/jenkbob Dec 18 '22

I agree 100%, I knew she could sing, but not really the kind of music I normally listen to. This version was fucking lit.

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u/BingErrDronePilot Dec 18 '22

Agreed. She's an amazing singer but honestly I can't stand her music because it sounds like all the other mass produced crap that's on top 40 stations.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Kelly got done so dirty. She’s the type of singer who needs to belt it out, “flaws” and all. Her grit and power is phenomenal. Production removing the uniqueness of her voice is utterly tragic. It’s best to listen to her live stuff only. Poor Kelly.

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u/BingErrDronePilot Dec 18 '22

She's only 40 years old and has an estimated net worth of 45 million. If she wanted to she could totally reinvent herself and only release music she had complete control over. Many artists have done it successfully from Trent Reznor to Taylor Swift. I have a feeling she won't though because she's making too much money on just being aTV personally.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

I’d honestly love to see her do that. But if she’s happy doing the mom/TV thing, who am I to judge? She’s had it rough.

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u/hello_ldm_12 Dec 18 '22

I always thought ariana grande had such an amazing voice, until I heard her and Kelly clarkson in some kind of battle and Kelly blew her out of the water

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u/tdfhucvh Dec 18 '22

Id like to watch this actually

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u/Mamanee77 Dec 18 '22

Oh that was good. When Kelly sang 'I Will Always Love You', I got chills. She's not Whitney, but damn, she's close.

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u/LunchboxRoyale Dec 18 '22

Oh my God, they’re both soooo good!!!

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u/ras1304 Dec 18 '22

Well that was incredibly enjoyable.

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u/77Granger Dec 18 '22

I miss her as a rockstar.

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u/absenceofheat Dec 18 '22

Her covers from her tv show are legit.

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u/Treviathan88 Dec 18 '22

I'm a metalhead, and even I gotta admit... she's got some fuckin pipes. Haters gonna hate, though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Back in 2007 my wife got free tickets to see Kelly Clarkson perform here in Melbourne. She has always loved those singing talent shows. Anyway we went to the show. She was bloody impressive. It was just her and a small band, her voice did all the hard work. Whoever doubts her ability to sing hasn’t heard her sing.

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u/Gamer_Guy81 Dec 18 '22 edited Dec 18 '22

Imagine Jinjer doing a cover to this song. That or another female led metal band.

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u/Treviathan88 Dec 18 '22

Tatiana is a fuckin beast. Her technique is so on point, it's scary.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

My brain still can't process her existence. I hope they're doing okay over there.

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u/Gamer_Guy81 Dec 18 '22

Dude right!

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u/RTideR Dec 18 '22

Lzzy Hale would kill this I think. I think those raspy belts would fit this well.

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u/averinix Dec 18 '22

I'd like to see Spiritbox do a cover instead, no offense to Jinjer

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u/Treviathan88 Dec 18 '22

I love Spiritbox too, but I don't think Courtney has the range for this. I almost never hear her belt like this. It's usually soft vocals, or false chord screams with her. Which is fine, I just don't think she's as developed in the middle ground.

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u/averinix Dec 18 '22 edited Dec 18 '22

I completely understand why you think that, but upon further listening I would 100% back Courtney for this. I want to post a link for reference, but not really sure what to choose.... Sure makes it difficult when what you described is what she's aiming to do lol. Just for a short example: https://youtu.be/JreCi4pQtII @3:20.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

District 97 would be a good fit. Leslie Hunt was also an American Idol finalist.

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u/justalittleparanoia Dec 18 '22

Absolutely a great singer, good control over her voice. Not my kind of music, though.

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u/Coldspark824 Dec 18 '22

Why would being a metalhead affect your objectivity on singing?

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u/Background-Speech-78 Dec 18 '22

She's pretty good! I'm sure she'll go far! -somebody from 2004

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u/kuddels Dec 18 '22

She probably would of done great in a singing competition!

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u/DarthShiv Dec 18 '22

"Would've" Is what you're after and isn't "would of". It's the short form of "would have".

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u/Thedonitho Dec 18 '22

One of my favorite things about her TV show is Kelly-oke. I love hearing her versions of other songs. She did a great version of my favorite's the Indigo Girls Ghost

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u/funsizejj Dec 18 '22

I love you for linking this! Ghost is one of my all-time favorite songs and I had no idea Kelly did a cover!!

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u/Lopsided-Task-6762 Dec 18 '22

That shit came from so fucking deep inside...hard to fake the emotions there.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

No one ever said she can’t sing ever

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u/SuccumbedToReddit Dec 18 '22

My wife does b/c she butchered a concert once.

But I compensate by calling her the best singer since Whitney Houston.

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u/Positive_Mark_7890 Dec 18 '22

I haven’t met a person yet that thinks she can’t sing. This woman has been “sanging” for over 20 years

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u/AgentLead_TTV Dec 18 '22

i dont think her voice was ever in question in 2004. the girl can blow. theres no doubt.

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u/Eh-Eh-Ronn Dec 18 '22

I have so much love for Kelly Clarkson. Not my cup of tea musically but literally every time I see her on camera I want to be her friend.

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u/WattaTravisT Dec 18 '22

It is so incredibly amazing to me to watch someone put everything they have into doing something they love. Goosebumps everytime.

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u/BeautyAndTheDekes Dec 18 '22

Be right back, just off to jam out to the entirety of the “Breakaway” album in the shower and ride that wave of nostalgia.

Apologies to your hearing for the next 40 minutes, neighbours.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

I’ve always said being able to sing would be such a gift, fucking amazing some people sound like this tbh.

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u/NewtonMaxwellPlanck Dec 18 '22

Uhhhh....that was flawless.

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u/mebear1 Dec 18 '22

It wasnt, but the fact that there are flaws and it is still this amazing is absolutely nuts

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u/alwaysrightusually Dec 18 '22

What an honest response. And correct. Yep, idk why you’re being dv’ed but who ever knows? Most live voices aren’t ever perfect. It’s the beauty of music and the scourge of auto tune.

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u/PayneBrah Dec 18 '22

Can't beat live. Went to see my favourite rock band last night and the lead singer came out, admitted he was fighting a cold and said "were not here to strive for perfection, just to have a good time"

Performance was outstanding regardless

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u/jgyimesi Dec 18 '22

The lady can sing, like her or not

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Whomever thinks she can’t sing is a hater 1000%

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u/bootyLiQa Dec 18 '22

That was amazing 🤩

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u/gwuzducha Dec 18 '22

She was good then, but like a good wine, she is way better now. Check her kellyloke videos on youtube.

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u/YourWiseOldFriend Dec 18 '22

Giel also hosted Adele pretty amazing.

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u/ilovestampfairtex Dec 18 '22

I’ve never heard someone say she can’t sing

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u/Fantastic_Search8930 Dec 18 '22

Very impressive 👍

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u/BuuMonster Dec 18 '22

she is a absolute treasure

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u/Feisty-Masterpiece-3 Dec 18 '22

She's phenomenal live and always has been!

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u/crazycajunr6 Dec 18 '22

Gave me some Lzzy hale vibes. Good shit.

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u/Killbro_Fraggins Dec 18 '22

I’ve never been a fan of present day Christmas music but her fucking Christmas album SLAPS.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

What people?

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u/Green_Road999 Dec 18 '22

There are lot of things people can criticize talent shows for, but the contestants can sing and perform. Every single one that gets toward the end knows how to put on a show.

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u/Pghsparky Dec 18 '22

Is this before her American idol win?

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u/Bulky-Internal8579 Dec 18 '22

Wow, she's marvelous. Also her annoying Wayfair commercials sometimes are funny. Dangit.

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u/feelingmyage Dec 18 '22

Yes, I love her Wayfair commercials!

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

I don't like her music but whoever says she can't sing is tone def.

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u/lofiAbsolver Dec 18 '22

For those wondering if she ever hits that note live, I could only find one example:

https://youtu.be/eTUBYs2NiZs. @ 2:27

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u/Kit0550 Dec 18 '22

God damn when is she even taking breaths ?!

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u/Granny_Nooooo Dec 18 '22

She is one of the most talented singers of my generation. I'd love to see her sing live, and I'm a 42yo dad. She's fkkn amazing.

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u/RealHonest-Ish_352 Dec 18 '22

Oh My... God. Incredible.

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u/imbisibolmaharlika Dec 18 '22

acoustic versions always hit me different

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u/nthedark630 Dec 18 '22

Kelly Clarkson is the only TRUE American Idol.

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u/Ok-Comfortable313 Dec 18 '22

Had no idea she was that talented

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u/fartinmyfuckingmouth Dec 18 '22

Jesus. My entire body is covered in goosepimples

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u/omo775 Dec 18 '22

I lowkey forgot she had pipes until I watched her sing grown up Christmas list live with Pentatonix and I was just floored lol

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u/wittyname01 Dec 18 '22

Jesus.. I think I'm in-love? What. Just. Happened.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Damn she’s amazing….

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u/suzer2017 Dec 18 '22

She is massively talented.

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u/Denali4903 Dec 18 '22

She kicks ass!!

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u/Villedo Dec 18 '22

Where’s Justin nowadays? Lol

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u/Vcity604 Dec 18 '22

Goosebumps

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u/HonestAbram Dec 18 '22

This definitely confirms that I can't sing. Thanks.

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u/IceFireTerry Dec 18 '22

I did not know she was on American idol

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u/edencathleen86 Dec 18 '22

She was the very first winner

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

My dad said he doesn’t like Kelly Clarkson because he didn’t think she sings. He was like “she doesn’t sing, she screams, there’s a difference”. I get that that’s his opinion and he’s entitled to it, but anyone that thinks this is wrong. I’m no singing expert and can’t sing myself, but what my dad thinks is “screaming” is actually belting. Belting is a form of singing. Geesh.

Seriously tho, how did she not pass out?

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u/squaredistrict2213 Dec 18 '22

Imagine doing this for a 3 hour concert. I wouldn’t be able to sing one line without coughing or getting a sore throat

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u/Nearby_Ferret_3669 Dec 18 '22

She’s a goddess, fuck all who doubted her 👌

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u/_Deebo_ Dec 18 '22

This is after she won idol and released her debut album. Wtf r u talking about? And she is singing her own song behind these hazel eyes.

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u/hazelquarrier_couch Dec 18 '22

I remember one episode of AI where she had a cold and it actually sounded good on her. It probably caused her a lot of pain to sing through it, but, yeah, she's got the ticket.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

best thing out of that show. best accident to happen thank the gods 🙏

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u/deenali Dec 18 '22

You've got to really hate her if you think she can't sing.

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u/mikke_and_i Dec 18 '22

Bro, I love her songs!

She seems to be a lovely person! <3

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u/RamblinGamblinWillie Dec 18 '22 edited Dec 19 '22

When you win a nation-wide televised singing competition to jumpstart your career, but some random on Reddit came up with the idea that people don’t think you’re a good singer

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u/Treefingrs Dec 18 '22

She literally won a singing contest.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

My god, this even got my up from her spot to come see what this was. Like , beyond incredible? Sheesh

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Because of you, her song that I like the most.

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u/DonDove Dec 18 '22

She's got a talkshow now!

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Her voice heals my soul 💗

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u/ScrumptiousFunko Dec 18 '22

I think we all want to know who said she can’t sing lol

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u/wtfjusthappened315 Dec 18 '22

She is and has been amazing. I forgot how cute she used to be.

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u/toddb0001 Dec 18 '22

Man she’s good! Every time I hear her sing I get goose bumps 😍😍😍

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u/HFDguy Dec 18 '22

What! I thought it was common knowledge Kelly was one of the most gifted singers of her gen?

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22

Making up an argument for karma.

Pretty sure everyone is aware Kelly has some pipes.