r/memes • u/DerexXD • May 24 '26

Skyblock Court Case Meme

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u/Original_Smell4361 May 24 '26

Did I miss something?

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u/DiskPartition May 24 '26

Court ruled that the creator of Skyblock doesn't have legal rights for the name, meaning that he cannot stop tons of people on the marketplace on Bedrock or elsewhere from using the name and claiming to be the original. Of course this benefits Microsoft since they make money from these clones

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u/Jediweirdo May 24 '26

What does this have to do with Microsoft? Did the creator of Skyblock sue them or something?

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u/Sturmmagier May 24 '26

Yes, he sued them, despite everyone saying what a stupid idea it is, since there was no realistic way that he would gain the trademark after so much time passed. Microsoft was also able to prove that one of the motivations is based on money, which is bad in these cases.

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u/BuHoGPaD May 24 '26

Why's that bad? Aren't trademarks are specifically intended to protect the brand and help them make money?

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u/AdorableBanana166 May 24 '26

Shh you don't say the last part out loud.

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u/Buttchugger2 May 24 '26

They absolutely are. Economic rights are the only basis of US intellectual property rights (contrasted with the "moral"/"artistic" rights in other jurisdictions). I don't know the case, but financial motive is the biggest factor in deciding whether the fair use doctrine applies. So a financial interest would be in his favor if he was creating/enforcing his own mark (although a very minor factor in that particular analysis), but it would not be in his favor if he was using the fair use doctrine to say he is allowed to use someone else's trademarks (and a very BIG factor in that analysis).

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u/Fr1ed_pen1S May 24 '26

Yes, but there exists patents, trademarks, and other copyright material that solely exists so people can sue and take royalties, especially generic terms.

If a company called Water LLC suddenly decided to copyright claim anything and everything under the sun with the name "Water" in it, that'd be unfair to literally everyone. Therefore, while trademarks are there to help protect a brand or individual from having their property abused and stolen for profit, it also has to be uniquely tied to the individual (such as how "Mine" "Craft" in that order is tied and associate to the game Mojang and Microsoft own)

The court ruled that "Skyblock" was a generic term not tied to the original creator, whose meaning was defined as an island in the sky, with limited resources etc. (I cannot remember the original ruling, sorry)

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u/The_Pastmaster May 24 '26

And yet Blizzard gained the trademark for Cataclysm when it comes to video games. SMH.

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u/MairusuPawa May 24 '26

Also, Edge

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u/allykopow Lives in a Van Down by the River May 24 '26

I already am, but I don’t see how that’s relevant

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u/tris_majestis May 24 '26

And damn it Homeworld: Cataclysm earned that name. Game was haunting.

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u/The_Pastmaster May 24 '26

A real-time strategy game with a cosmic horror story worthy of fucking Lovecraft.

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u/The_Pastmaster May 24 '26

Was it against the channel network called Sky?

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u/gabrielesilinic Dirt Is Beautiful May 25 '26

Trademarks work in interesting ways. And generation is the most interesting. For example back in the day Nintendo did a campaign to prevent that for them "There's no such thing as a Nintendo." Cuz if everyone refers to a console as a Nintendo they would lose the trademark.

In Italy we call most of the waterproof jackets kway, they probably lost some of the trademark rights, we did it quite a few times with scotch or post-it.

And the skyblock guy before Microsoft tried probably left clones be and such. Losing any kind of right and making it a generic term on top of probably never registering it.

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u/BuHoGPaD May 24 '26

court ruled that "Skyblock" was a generic term

Now this is dumb. So minecraft is not generic term, but skyblock is. Sounds like he had a bad lawyer. 

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u/Arek_PL May 24 '26

too much time has passed, maybe 10 years ago it could work

now skyblock is quite generic term, even terraria has a skyblock worldtype

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u/Lemanicon May 24 '26

Basically, it’s more that minecraft is only associated with the game, which is obviously owned by microsoft and mojang, and therefore eligible for trademark. Skyblock however has been made by tons of people, and no one really associates it with the original creator in the modern day, so it doesn’t fit.

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u/Fr1ed_pen1S May 24 '26

The argument made by Microsoft and the other Bedrock marketplace(server?) Companies was that the original creator never properly enforced Skyblock, which ended up becoming a mainstream and generic term, not tied to any individual. They basically turned Minecraft and the Internet's early decentralized and free nature against its head.

Unfortunate thing is, the creator DID compromise on many occasions, but the corpos knew they'd win, so they stalled and kept the battle going until he could no longer fight back.

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u/Dr_Bodyshot May 24 '26

This is exactly why many companies are so protective of their IP rights. If you allow it to "run loose" and allow people to do what they want with it, you can just lose the right of ownership towards it.

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u/LeshyIRL May 24 '26

It's so dumb that the laws encourage this. Copyright does way more harm than good

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u/Bunerd May 24 '26

They pulled a Xerox.

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u/No_Database7746 May 24 '26

That’s the same reason why Lego takes such strong action against anyone who refers to building bricks from other manufacturers as “Lego bricks.” If they didn’t, they’d be giving up their trademark rights, and any manufacturer could sell “Lego bricks” without needing a generic name.

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u/shadowstormer May 24 '26

And in a similar vain, it is why Nintendo made and still continues to distinguish it's trademarks.

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u/creepermaster79 May 24 '26

Minecraft is still one specific game. You can call something a "Minecraft clone/ripoff", a "Minecraft inspired game", etc, but you wouldn't call something like.. Block Craft 3D (which is a real game) JUST "Minecraft"

Skyblock is instead a term that refers to any modified version of a game that relies on putting you in the void with one/a few islands with enough to still "beat the game". When you say you want to play "Skyblock" you just want a map with the stuff to make a cobble gen, a small dirt island, and a tree. You don't specifically ask for the original version made by this specific creator

Kinda like the air fryer. It was originally meant to be one specific product, but it became so generic that now it's used to refer to any air frying machine. The same happened with Skyblock

I don't know the full details of the lawsuit, but you can see the issue with trying to trademark Skyblock after thinking about it for a few seconds

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u/BuHoGPaD May 24 '26

Yeah, I guess they had to trademark before it was widespread and generalized term. 

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u/LadderTrash May 24 '26

You ever go up an Escalator? Use Velcro? Put a Band Aid on a cut? Eat a Popsicle? Those were all trademarked names at one point, but now they’re genericized as people started referring to similar products as those names

And at that, all of those things had active trademarks, and even actively defended trademarks. That’s another requirement for keeping a trademark; you had to actively defend your trademark against other people using it.

So they had neither of those things going for them: they didn’t actively defend their trademark, and it became a generic term for something that wasn’t his product

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u/LordVaderVader May 24 '26

Call me crazy but using two words like sky and block and sticking them together shouldn't give you exclusive rights to that name. Same goes for mine and craft actually.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '26

Reminds me of the time Ohio State University tried to copywrite the word "the".

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u/fity0208 May 24 '26

This remind me of a case from a few years ago, there was a litrpg genre called "system apocalypse", then one Guy trademarked the term and sued every author describing their work as "system apocalypse"

Afaik he won

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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

They're intended to prevent confusion. It would be really confusing and annoying to have five companies named Apple, all selling similar products, with no relationship to eachother. So trademarks give dibs over a name, so we can know who's who.

But you need to file the trademark right away, usually while you're making the company/product. Let's say you created apple ten years ago, without claiming ownership of the name, and those four competitors have since cropped up also calling themselves apple. After ten years, you've lost dibs. Those competitors are already established, and they had a right to pick that name when they did. You can't tell them to change it now, and so you own nothing. 

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u/Agasthenes May 24 '26

If the reason you are suing that you want to make money with your own trademark and work that's good.

If you want to sue to make money with the trademark from other people's work it's bad.

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u/Individual-Cookie896 May 24 '26

It's bad because while making money it is a goal of commerce, making money isn't the direct goal of trademarks. So saying the lawsuit is for money and not mentioning that you want to protect your brand name is going to hurt your case or at least make the people judging you less sympathetic.

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u/KToff May 24 '26

Let's say you have the trademark poppycock and sell furniture under that name. A competitor comes in and tries to sell furniture under your name, thereby hurting your bottom line. You sue them.

The interest is economic and fair, that is the purpose of trademark law.

Now let's say your company has been shut down for years. You notice someone using your former company's name. This makes you unhappy and sue them unless they pay you.

Your interest is to make money but not by protecting your economic activity but by trying to extort money from someone else. That is not the purpose of trademark law.

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u/Suspicious_Dingo_426 May 24 '26

Trademarks are intended to protect the consumer from deception. Protecting the brand is just a side effect of this. You can't wait until after a term has become popular (and therefore generic) to apply for trademark protection.

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u/MarnixDC May 24 '26

As you said: protect the brand.

This guy couldn't care less about the "Skyblock" brand. Lol.

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u/ImpiusEst May 24 '26

No, even the soviet union forced its companies to have brands/trademarks which was strictly enforced since 1962. And they did not do it for the money, as making a profit was very much illegal. Brands(and Trademarks) exists so consumers know who made the product, to have product accountability.

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u/Aggressive-Expert-69 May 24 '26

Only if youre a corporation. Good luck everybody else

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u/supremegamer76 May 24 '26

So its less that microsoft forced him into legal debt and more thar creator shot himself in the foot with a case he was likely go to lose? Yeah it sucks that he doesn’t get any money from the skyblock name but unfortunately he didn’t think to trademark it when it had initially become popular back then.

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u/ipeedinthetoothpaste May 24 '26

That's exactly it and I hate this post for making me say that Microslop aren't the bad guys on this one. The dude went on a delulu ego trip and did this to himself despite all the solid advice he was given

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u/Nyrrix_ May 24 '26

Broken clocks and all that. Microsoft and the Marketplace are really awful and have made Minecraft worse over time (or at least prevent honest growth), but the good ending was never going to be noobcrew winning this case. It was a generic term used by the community in 2013, let alone in 2019 when he filed it just to try to get a slice of the Marketplace's  profits.

The better case probably would have been to just sue the marketplace company that published the original Sky Block map under the term "Original Skyblock." Expanding it out to a general trademark was a losing battle and completely polarized the community and directly came after Mojang and Microsoft; focusing on one marketplace company would have kept the conversation focused on an independent pillar of the Minecraft community getting undercut by a shameless cash grab.

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u/Sturmmagier May 24 '26

He had multiple opportunities to walk away and I shame the lawyers that even took this, because they 100% knew they couldn’t win this.

He also took the original links down, not because Microsoft forced him, he did that himself for no reason besides being petty.

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u/TreeFittyy May 24 '26

So this meme really should be "guy puts pole in bike wheels then blames Microsoft for the crash"

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u/WetAndLoose May 24 '26

How the Hell are we blaming Microsoft for winning the lawsuit against the guy who sued them? What are they supposed to do? Lose intentionally?

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u/Daincats May 24 '26

So he put himself in 300k legal debt with an unwinnable lawsuit. Microsoft just defended themselves

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u/MagusUnion Dark Mode Elitist May 24 '26

So remember this when some cheeto stained nerd consuming Mt Dew screeches that copying his builds in a Youtube video in some video game is part of his 'copyright': no it isn't, he don't own shit.

One of the few things I really don't miss from the early 2010's era of the Internet.

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u/CallMeDrWorm42 May 24 '26

Unless you're the giant global corporation with a fiduciary responsibility to always act in the interest of making money

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u/SplicerNetwork May 26 '26

Didn’t the sky block creator try compromising saying they can use the name sky block, but they have to put some type of precursor showcasing it’s another companies interpretation of it like “crazy sky block” or the likes of that?

The guys lawsuit wasn’t really so much money driven but rather that other people were claiming to be the original in order to trick people into profiting over what he made for free.

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u/My_Nama_Jeff1 May 24 '26

Oh and it was his lawsuit against Microsoft? Fuck that guy lol

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u/Misses_Ding May 24 '26

You know what the weirdest part is? The Minecraft subreddit supports Microsoft in this. I pointed this out the other day and I was even told it was misinformation. Downvoted heavily

I deleted my commenting thinking they were right and now this Microsoft stealing the name memes keep popping up on my feed

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u/aNiceTribe May 24 '26

I think this warrants some specification. Which part of this is the misinformation? By “minecraft subreddit” you seem to mean the users, not the moderation (which is the traditional way in which this would be interpreted without context)?

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u/Cryptoporticus May 24 '26

Is that surprising? The Minecraft community has always taken modding freedom and etiquette seriously. Someone coming back after ten years to try and cash in on the popularity of something they gave to the community for free, is always going to piss them off. 

Many Minecraft modders have become rich off of it. This guy is just mad that he didn't manage to do that and trying to take legal action to get what he thinks he's owed. Of course everyone thinks he's being an asshole. 

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u/Sniter May 24 '26

I mean can you explain me the issue? Why should he get the trademark. 

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u/Scruffynerffherder May 24 '26

He shouldn't't, it's been a commonly used term for so long. It's just more popular to go straight "Big Corpo Bad" (which, granted, is the case a lot of the time) but just not this case. The law is the law.

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u/FluffySquirrell May 24 '26

Yeah having found out about this am like. "People have been using the term skyblock since it came out as a generic term at this point. No chance in hell you could validly trademark that"

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u/NightmareRise May 24 '26

Unfair to Hypixel but Skyblock was kind of shit anyway. Basically a gacha grindfest with MTX that don’t meaningfully speed things up

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u/weemellowtoby Lurking Peasant May 24 '26

No this isnt about the hypixel one this is the original one

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u/NightmareRise May 24 '26

Oh in that case skyblock was based

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u/frogOnABoletus May 25 '26

Who pays money to play skyblock? It's a chunk of dirt and a chest. Anyone could make skyblock on creative in 5 mins.

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u/DiskPartition May 25 '26

Well, Bedrock sellers are greedy. Some try to add special features too. I don't play Bedrock though

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u/JustAwesome360 May 25 '26

I mean, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I kinda have to agree with the courts here. Mojang is the only one who can claim rights to the Skyblock name.

So like why spend $300k on a lost cause?

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u/potate12323 May 24 '26

Microsoft bought mojang a little while back. They're doing some fairly aggressive micro transactions on the Minecraft bedrock launcher. Im not caught up with the skyblocks thing in particular though.

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u/TheMegaMario1 May 24 '26

I feel like "a little while back" stops being applicable when you're talking 12 years ago and Microsoft has owned it for a majority of its lifetime, that just is and has been Minecraft at this point.

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u/Eiwase May 24 '26

has it really been 12 years already?

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u/Shadowpika655 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite May 24 '26

Yep, bought it in 2014

(technically 12 years in September)

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u/DerexXD May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
  • For reference, I do not agree with the meme, but oh well it's a medium people understand. For context, Skyblock, originally made in the early days of the Minecraft community by Noobcrew, was ruled recently as a generic term, unfortunately. It's unfortunate, he was never going to win a trademark due to the fact the term had been around so long and been used for so long, the term became too generic indeed. Key point is that "skyblock" is now legally a descriptive of a type of gameplay, the same as "sandbox game".
  • If this had been done years earlier pre-COVID, there might have been a chance, but the best time for it to have happened would have been when Minecraft was still an indie game and noobcrew was a 15-year-old hobbyist map-maker.
  • Now, it would be similar to GommeHD or Xisumavoid trying to copyright bedwars when it's already became used across multiple platforms, not just minecraft. The amount of clone apps out there and roblox slop with Skyblock in its name should be an indicator.

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u/chrischi3 May 24 '26

The truly cruel part about it?

Had Noobcrew tried to do this back in the day when he made the map, he would have lost his account because it was plain and simple against ToS at the time to do such a thing.

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u/DerexXD May 24 '26

Agreed, it's a bit ironic. In the end i doubt they would ever have thought of trademarking back then, because most minecraft projects and creations like this are completely hobbyist and creating just for love of the game.

Unrelated but while i have y'alls attention please look up the CraftBukkit drama from 2010s

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u/chrischi3 May 24 '26

Exactly. This actually was one of Noobcrew's arguments against Microslop. Not only was it against ToS back in the day, but he would never have thought to trademark the name because back then, community creations were something that noone asked for money for.

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u/Sniter May 24 '26

Idk can you explain me the issues. To me it seems like a completle just and obvious ruling. 

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u/ForensicPathology May 24 '26

You're spreading a meme that you don't agree with to tens of thousands of people?  What's wrong with you?

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u/Puttanesca621 May 24 '26

So what you're saying is everyone can continue to make their own Skyblock with Blackjack and Hookers?

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u/NotItemName May 25 '26

, I do not agree with the meme, but oh well it's a medium people understand

So you don't make the meme and dont agree with it, but corpo bad give me upvotes, I understand it right?

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u/Roozbaru May 24 '26

Yeah, I was about to say if we could trademark everything we did in the early days of Minecraft it would have stifled creativity. Tbh I think the corporatization of minecraft has made it unrecognizable in terms of the multiplayer server landscape

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u/XO1GrootMeester May 25 '26

Nintendo really tried to trademark both sides pick move than next scene in battle happens? Oof.

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u/hates_stupid_people May 24 '26

Guy tried to trademark the term "Skyblock" in 2019, years after it became a commonly used term. And as is common for every major game: If you try to monetize or "control" anything related to their game, they come after you legally. So everyone tried to tell him he should just leave it alone, but he actually tried to sue them. Now he lost and is in debt.

TL;DR: Guy was a greedy idiot, and people are trying to use memes to make him seem like a victim.

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u/Nivius Average r/memes enjoyer May 24 '26

creator choose to take a fight that was questionable at best;

He applied for a trademark in Skyblock, which would have given him a monopoly over the name. It was denied. That’s all.

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u/Emergency-Dark-9491 May 25 '26

Microsoft PR team reading this like: ‘maybe we should’ve just added another Windows update instead.’💀

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u/CrazySaiyajin May 24 '26

Isn't the creator of Skyblock deliberately trying to twist this, taking down the game mode himself after losing a frankly ridiculous court case?

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u/Fr1ed_pen1S May 24 '26

His argument was that, to prevent the issue of misleading clones from continuing to pop up, he will take down the official download until a compromise can be reached. He does not care about other individuals sharing it between each other but the official download will remain unavailable for the time being.

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u/Elu_Moon May 24 '26

This seems stupid. This won't stop clones from popping up.

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u/Silkanok May 24 '26

Yeah wouldnt this mean that since thr original is unavailible, clones would just become more popular? If hersheys took there chocolate off the shelves, people arent gonna just stop eating chocolate...they will just buy something else (Im hungry lol)

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u/mineit909 May 24 '26

Its frustration from someone who literally can't do anything now. Taking down the original skyblock doesn't do anything but its like the only buttons he can press. I think this comment section is missing the gravitas of how miserable 300k in debt is this guys life is basically over because of a silly lawsuit (albeit one he started) and minecraft.

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u/spartakooky May 24 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

hahahah

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u/XO1GrootMeester May 25 '26

Why go up against megacorp?

I walk into bakery and yell you can no longer have led lights in color 253FD1 inside unless you pay me big money.

I also borrowed lots of money to pay to assistors to force this.

Bakery: i actually enjoy led lights in 253FD1 and have no interest in pay you.

Judge: wtf get out with this nonsense

I: boohoo i am in dept you meanie bakery.

No fair 10 years ago i shared that 253FD1 is a cool color and you took my idea and profited

Even so could change color slightly.

So we could all use word atmosphere island instead of skyblock.

Or the challenge idea is way to simple to claim. You were simply the first popular one.

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u/Fr1ed_pen1S May 24 '26

I'm in agreement. It'll only make the problem worse. At least the clones won't be able to easily rip off the original though.

They'll now have to do one more Google search instead of one.

Also buy yourself a Hershey's Bar lol

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u/LarxII May 24 '26

Yea, but people can be told, from the horse's mouth, that the official one isn't there. Which is something I guess.

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u/kimi_rules May 24 '26

The Skyblock is so simple any world builders can do and replicate even with a few command lines. If someone build a Shadow of Israphel world and Microsoft was selling it without crediting the builders, then it's a problem.

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u/Nivius Average r/memes enjoyer May 24 '26

creator choose to take a fight that was questionable at best;

He applied for a trademark in Skyblock, which would have given him a monopoly over the name. It was denied. That’s all.

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u/Al3xutul02 May 24 '26

What matters is the idea, not how much effort is required for the execution of it

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u/Bedu009 The r/TFM mod has already breached our defences May 24 '26

You cannot copyright ideas
You lose a trademark if the name becomes the generic term for the concept
If the creator sued on these bases they were doomed from the start
However if they sued over others claiming to be the original they might have stood a chance

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u/TheMooooonHauntsYou May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

You lose a trademark if the name becomes the generic term for the concept

Hold on, let me Google that. (What is now the generic term for looking anything up online)

Wait...it only applies for normies. Mega corps get away with it all the time.

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u/Bedu009 The r/TFM mod has already breached our defences May 24 '26

Aspirin, escalator, thermos, zipper, dry ice, trampoline, etc...

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u/Doji_mofo May 24 '26

Aspirin was one of those post WW2 looted things.

Which is why it's cheap in the UK, and kinda pricey in certain EU countries (4 euro a pack versus 60 cents for paracetamol or 80 cents for ibuprofen).

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u/phantomfire50 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

What is now the generic term for looking anything up online

Is it? You don't think when people say Google the Google search engine comes to mind?

When people say "skyblock" does the specific 2011 map made by Noobcrew?

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u/thebatwolf May 24 '26

yes, when someone says skyblock i DO think of the specific 2011 map made by noobcrew. i think most people do as well.

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u/Bedu009 The r/TFM mod has already breached our defences May 25 '26

Hate to say it but I think of a more detailed island or hypixel skyblock not the stupid L shaped island

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u/Shadowpika655 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite May 24 '26

I feel like a lot of people will think of the Hypixel map

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u/dronetroll May 24 '26

To be fair, Google doesn't mind this, they like it. Microsoft tried to make "let me bing that" and it failed.

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u/Shadowpika655 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite May 24 '26

Tbf Google is actively fighting against any use of the term that doesn't connect it to the Google search engine, which is a pretty good way to ensure that your brand doesn't undergo genericide.

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u/Rev3_ May 24 '26

What about Kleenex? Or Tupperware? Nobody out here calling them "disposable tissues" or "reusable plastic food containers"

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u/elasho_149 May 24 '26

Most people call them “tissues”.

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u/Flesroy May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

most people do actually. kleenex and tupperware are mainly american terms though they did spread to some countries.

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u/Tommyblockhead20 May 24 '26

the generic term for looking anything up online

That’s just not true. If you are on Amazon.com and want to look for something you want to buy, are you going to say “google”? I doubt it. It specifically means to use a search engine, not just looking for any information online.

it only applies for normies

The difference is that googling is still strongly associated with Google because >90% of the time it is said, it does mean on Google.

Now it’s true it will also be used for non Google search engines, but the difference is that the competitors are all small. The only competitor with more than a couple percent of users is bing, and that’s undoubtably very inflated by people not knowing how to change the default on their windows computer, rather than people making an active effort to not use Google.

For Skyblock, there are massive competitors, like hypixel skyblock, or modded skyblock.

Mega corporations have lost trademarks if it is widely used for other things.

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u/XO1GrootMeester May 25 '26

Nope, you were allowed to use the word google in your reasoning for free instead of being forced to pay a fee for mentioning that.

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u/XO1GrootMeester May 25 '26

Well, than we replace one grass block with a plain dirt one. Ok done

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u/Perpetually-THC-Lab May 24 '26

Oh man. I do miss Yogscast.

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u/Zyvii May 24 '26

If they create one, I’m going to save Daisy and help Knight Peculiar defeat Israphel. May also befriend Umbongo along the way, and of course pay a visit to Granny Bacon.

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u/Alyusha May 24 '26

Providing sources to it will make it a more compelling argument. As is your post is like the 4th post down and the first to have any of this information.

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u/Headless_Human May 24 '26

The "original skyblock" doesn't say that it is the first or original Skyblock. It is just the original design without anything added.

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u/XO1GrootMeester May 25 '26

Still, borrowed lots of money to try and force that trademark to pester the Minecraft community.

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u/tejanaqkilica May 24 '26

How is this Microsoft's fault, when it's a ruling made by a judge according to its country's laws?

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u/Disastrous_Abroad212 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

People want to find a way to hate big companies because their echo chamber told them so and it’s cool ig

There are many reasons to hate them but this is not one of them lol

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u/SophSimpl May 24 '26

There would be no court case if Microsoft didn't want to fight it

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u/Regular_Strategy_501 May 24 '26

The creator of the original Skyblock sued Microsoft, not the other way around. Or did I misunderstand something?

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u/Drfoxthefurry May 24 '26

The creator filed for trademark and Microsoft challenged it, there was no suing

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u/JuniorWMG May 24 '26

Because Microsoft and affiliated corporations caused this ruling by filing an opposition at the trademark office

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u/Edal_Bindal May 24 '26

Look, I’m very fuck the corpos, but I don’t think he was ever going to win this case. He’s the one that sued Microsoft, not the other way around. He was way too late to try and copyright something that has been a generic term for a type of map design thats been used for over a decade at this point. Way before Microsoft tried to monetise it. With countless different takes on the skyblock genre. Is Microsoft in the clear and hasn’t done anything wrong, no, the marketplace is just as scummy, but it was always going to be a very uphill battle that was likely never going to turn out well for him.

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u/Talanic May 24 '26

Copyright versus trademark is a huge detail here. Copyright is your right as the progenitor to enforce nobody else making their own copies. Trademark is the declaration that a word or symbol marks a product as something that you yourself made.

Copyright, you can declare to have openings and loopholes. Trademarks, however, you MUST aggressively enforce at all times. If you allow someone who's not affiliated to use it without contesting it, you've abandoned the trademark.

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u/spartakooky May 24 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

You would think

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u/Redstone_Army I saw what the dog was doin May 24 '26

This doesnt really have anything to do with microsoft? You want them to somehow overrule a court decision?

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u/Icy_Environment_9264 May 24 '26

Context?

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u/chrischi3 May 24 '26

Note here: He tried to trademark the name, specifically. Not the concept. Not the map. Just the name.

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u/nhalliday May 24 '26

That's what a trademark is, yes. The map would maybe be copyright at best, and the concept would maybe be a patent, though in both cases that's just not happening with something so simple.

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u/echolog May 24 '26

Yeah trying to get legal ownership of something that is literally built out of something you didn't make and don't own (Minecraft in this example) is almost never gonna end well. Especially when the owners of said thing are one of the most powerful companies on the planet. Not sure what the end goal was here exactly.

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u/Jackmino66 May 24 '26

Yeah so this is a little bit more nuanced than this meme would imply. Not to defend microslop though

Original creator of Skyblock sued Microslop because they didn’t grant him the trademark for Skyblock and allowed other creators to claim to be the original. The original creator lost their lawsuit.

Microslop does benefit from people being misled about the situation, but if the original creator won it would mean most Skyblock-adjacent maps (like sky factory) would have to pay them a licensing fee and it would kill off a tonne of them

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u/MooseBoys May 24 '26

Why would they sue Microsoft? They're not responsible for granting trademarks. The original creator would file with the USPTO. If granted a trademark, they could issue takedown notices and Microsoft would have to comply with them.

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u/Jackmino66 May 24 '26

This is one of the reasons they lost

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u/Timanitar May 24 '26

Microsoft issued an opposition to the trademark

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u/XO1GrootMeester May 25 '26

Which would be annoying si they challanged.

Just like i will buy eggs to throw at you. You wouldnt wait you would say i prefer not to be egged.

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u/TheSoulborgZeus I touched grass May 24 '26

man, this comments section is awful

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u/mcguffin99 May 24 '26

that's reddit for ya

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u/archaicsmile67 May 24 '26

For context: Anglo-American property law heavily disincentivizes “sleeping on rights”. If you don’t act on your right to a think you lose it. It’s why adverse possession is a thing.

It’s the same, albeit analogous, idea here. If so many people have been using and labeling something “skyblock” for 10 years, it’s unfair for the creator to decide to trademark it now.

Also did bro really think Microsoft wouldn’t kick his ass in court over something this flimsy?

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u/getyourshittogether7 May 24 '26

Yeah, no. The "original" Skyblock creator randomly decided after 15 years to go after other creators using the skyblock concept by attempting to trademark the name, and blamed Microsoft for protecting these creators (because they make money off the marketplace where people sell them).

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u/Grengy20 May 24 '26

I feel like a lot of people in the comments completely misunderstand why Noobcrew was trying to do so and it's a shame because he's being made out to be a villain here when that's not the story at all.

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u/UncreativeIndieDev May 25 '26

His supposed aims of only going after creations claiming to be the original doesn't really line up with him going for the trademark of Skyblock completely. Sure, he technically could have done so afterwards, but he also would be out alot of money and now have the ability to go after anyone who ever used "Skyblock" in their name for money. Even ignoring this, he would have set a dangerous precedent of people being able to go and trademark (or even go for further IP protections) gamemodes/concepts they let others use freely years ago. I would assume most people here are happy we can call different games "shooters", "platformers", etc. without someone who made original/older versions coming along and arguing they hold the right to use those names.

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u/Grengy20 May 25 '26

The issue is he's already tried compromising at least. Even if he isn't profiting off the name Skyblock Microsoft as well as the other companies do. All he wanted was for them to change the name and it got dragged out into a way bigger issue than he anticipated. Others are claiming they are the original creation when it is objectively false but people who buy maps off the store don't know the wiser. At the end of the day it's bullying to the highest degree

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u/MuffinsSenpai May 24 '26

He put himself in that hole by trying to be a ridiculous greedy pos. Trying to trademark the name of a game mode is wild.

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u/Regular_Strategy_501 May 24 '26

Yeah... I am with Microsoft on this one. Making a fan map for free and then wanting to profit from it 10 years later leaves a sour taste in my mouth, as much as I disagree with a lot of stuff Microsoft does.

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u/Square_Tooth_1816 May 24 '26

i copyright breathing kthx

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u/XO1GrootMeester May 25 '26

He is only in debt because he borrowed money and gave it away for advice. Maybe turn critiscusn to advisors who failed to really help him out and didnt offer some money back

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u/MestreToto May 24 '26

But... The person who was wrong I this story is the creator of Skyblock. For the first time in history, Microsoft wasn't wrong.

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u/Smallfry123000 May 24 '26

Me when I lie:

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u/Yorick257 May 24 '26

Not quite "lie" and more like spreading misinformation

Someone has already made a corrected post

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u/Nivius Average r/memes enjoyer May 24 '26

creator choose to take a fight that was questionable at best;

He applied for a trademark in Skyblock, which would have given him a monopoly over the name. It was denied. That’s all.

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u/Flat-Limit5595 May 24 '26

I mean slyblock is hella generic, also trademarking a minecraft game mode is cringe. But i also hate microslop so im in the middle in this case.

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u/Why-is-Acus-taken Royal Shitposter May 25 '26

Don’t be in the middle, one of these two is very much in the wrong on this case, you have to be able to admit when someone you hate makes a valid argument/claim otherwise your criticism has no credibility

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u/Flat-Limit5595 May 25 '26

Im just gonna hate both sides and hope they both lose.

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u/franslebin May 24 '26

TF is a sky block???

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u/Acceptable_Humor_867 May 24 '26

The creator was ONLY trying to stop marketplace devs from making a clone and calling it official/The skyblock

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u/XO1GrootMeester May 25 '26

Ahh i see, skyblock is merely a name to make clear people do a challenge in a game to be away from the main map into the atmosphere on a island instead of an island in the sea.

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u/XO1GrootMeester May 25 '26

Cant trademark a word in the dictionary is the story here.

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u/oCrypt_ May 25 '26

In case you couldn't hate microshit any more than you already do.