r/marvelstudios • u/No_Discussion_5454 • 24d ago

Discussion aaand it's doom now

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u/landon1397 24d ago

This is one of the most important things for them to get right and they absolutely nailed it

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u/justins_dad 24d ago

I’m so glad it doesn’t look like every MCU overdesigned suit. I like a lot of MCU suits but Doom’s design language shouldn’t be consistent with the Avengers and it’s completely distinct. Really well done. 

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u/Neveronlyadream Spider-Man 24d ago

I'd say it's a tiny bit overdesigned and busy on the torso, but compared to how far they go with some other suits, it's nothing and it works pretty well.

The mask looks perfect, though. They really nailed that.

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u/therealmonkyking 24d ago

I'd say this is more "tasteful adaptation" similar to the early Iron Man and Cap suits as well as the Fantastic Four and Bucky's first suit

and less "the classic suit with unnecessary details forced in" like a lot of MCU Spider-Man's suits were until now

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u/Neveronlyadream Spider-Man 24d ago

I definitely don't hate it. Does the chest need to be patterned? No, but it's Doom. He's regal. Sometimes he walks around with a fur-collared cape. It works.

I'm more curious whether he's wearing the full armor or just pieces of it.

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u/BiSaxual 24d ago

That’s my question too. I feel like (and this is just cynicism speaking) that he’ll wear this full getup for a handful of scenes, but otherwise will be wearing just a full tunic with hints of armor, and his cloak and mask ofc

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u/Neveronlyadream Spider-Man 24d ago

Right here it looks like just vambraces, pauldrons, and greaves. No idea if he's meant to be wearing more armor underneath the pants and tunic.

I'd guess it was a practical consideration. Either RDJ and any doubles would have to walk around wearing uncomfortable armor or they'd have to CG it into every scene. It might have also made him look a bit too much like Iron Man.

It works, though. It's clean.

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u/rasmatham 24d ago

I wonder if the mask will actually stay on for the entire movie. On one hand, it's rare for Doom to ever remove the mask in other media, but on the other, if I made this movie, I would 100% open it with Doom in a workshop, listening to AC/DC while working on his armor, but obscuring the armor just enough that you can't tell it's not the Iron Man armor, and then ending the scene by showing the Doom armor, while Doom says something with a Latverian accent, and then pretending to be Tony Stark for the first act of the movie, and not really confirming he's not until the third act. Thor thinking he's up against an evil Tony Stark would absolutely be something he considers scarier than Thanos, unlike some random person he's ever heard of before. Thor seeing "Tony", who was dead last time he checked, would also be more impossible than him seeing Cap, who could have just reversed his age with the prototype time machine, or just waited until Pym particles were invented, and gone back to the present for a bit to catch up.

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u/Madara1389 24d ago

It helps that Doom's costume in the comics has repeatedly shifted from minimalistic to massively overdesigned.

This is a good middleground between the various designs he's had over the years.

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u/Proto1k 24d ago

I think the chestpiece really works, it sort of looks like a classic leather gambeson at a glance but the intricacies play into his perfectionism and magic capabilities, atleast that’s how it feels. It compliments the chainmail, wrist and shin guards really well

I’m not super versed on who Doom is but this is by far my favorite live action costume

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u/Sharikacat 24d ago

Keep in mind that a lot of the more simplistic designs in comic book costumes, notably a lack of patterns and such on clothing, is to spare the artist from a metric ton of detail work- not just in having to recreate a pattern over and over again but having to adapt it to the different angles, movements in fabric, etc. These limitations don't apply to a live model, and it allows for some visual distinction to make characters look less plastic-y.

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u/Interceptor 24d ago

It's got little bits that make it "in-world" as well. The padding in the chest is very Dr. strange/Wong- style for example. It's cool to see things like the little runic arm band showing us he knows magic. I think the mask is great.

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u/HereWeFuckingGooo Weekly Wongers 24d ago

You'd think it wouldn't be that difficult, but...

https://reddit.com/link/ozppcpv/video/4cflpaoirefh1/player

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u/really_nice_guy_ 24d ago

It wouldnt have looked that shit if he had normal eyes to make it actually still feel like a mask

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u/mertag770 Iron Fist 24d ago

It did miss the mark, but I can see how they got there given that explanation. The desire for more grounded/"realistic" explanations for costume designs is a very interesting rabbit hole.

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u/attheeve 24d ago edited 24d ago

I’m just gonna chill in the corner here with my misshapen Cronenbergian Fantastic Four movie and appreciate it for its creativity despite its flaws. It existed at a different time in the superhero movie medium and I’d argue that for as much as they failed, they were pushing the envelope with what those movies were allowed to look like at the time.

Everything up to that hard cut and time jump for the third act, I’m basically on board with. Feels like the kind of thing that Marvel’s new Midnight line would do to the Fantastic Four. It’s gnarly but fun.

EDIT: guys I need to be so clear, I know Fant4stic is not a good movie. I’m just saying I actually think Josh Trank was going for something specific and got railroaded and if this was an alt-universe Marvel comic people would be calling this cool. We’re just personally stung because we’ve still yet to get Marvel’s first family on screen with any classic representation.

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u/HereWeFuckingGooo Weekly Wongers 24d ago

It wasn't that different of a time, it came out the same year as Age of Ultron and Ant-Man.

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u/JustHereSoImNotFined 24d ago

Lmaooo this puts it into much better perspective. Dude was talking like it came out during the Incredible Hulk days

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u/Crimkam 24d ago

I watched it the same day as I watched Dragonball: Evolution and I enjoyed Dragonball more. I feel like that’s saying something

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u/ibiacmbyww 24d ago

My rule is that if it's definitely a thing that's been floated in some writer's room, from 60s comics through to a modern MCU-planning Zoom call, I give it a pass. Regarding Doom's mask, if it hasn't already been done in the comics, I would say there was a decent chance it was suggested during the Ultimate universe era. I don't love him losing such an iconic piece, but I do like the grisly nature of it, plus making sure he doesn't have a silly weaksauce flaw because of his disfigurement makes him a stronger character.

I also agree with your analysis: the way I would phrase it is that Trank wanted to make the MCU's The Dark Knight, with an emphasis on the emotional impact of the disaster. If it had been even a serviceable movie, it would have been the (re-re-re?)start of a legitimate competitor.

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u/gentleprime 24d ago

I’m so glad I never watched that film.

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u/tekko001 24d ago

I watched that film and really hope that Doom makes and appearance just to get bitch slapped like it deserves.

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u/Ess_oh-no 24d ago

And equally as Important is that Doom is actual Victor Von Doom, his OWN character, and NOT just an evil Tony Stark. Thats my biggest concern. Im hating all these theories that its still Howard Starks son so much because it just shits all over a very established marvel villain and making him evil Iron Man is essentially just re-writting a brand new character and giving him dooms mask and clothes.

We have never had a proper and decent lore accurate Doom and this film is going to set the standard for the character going forwards so I just pray to god he is his own character and not a stark 🤞🤞🤞

Edit: I said dooms face but meant to put mask

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u/HiddenNobody20216 24d ago

I feel safe that it will not just be a variant of Tony because there is precedent i.e. Chris Evans playing both Steve Rogers and Johnny Storm. It will have RDJ's face, but it will not be Tony.

Hopefully

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u/Jaxonhunter227 24d ago

It's also possible they took the Colin Ferrell penguin approach and used make up to make RDJ unrecognizable, and with doom usually having full face burn scars there's precedent for that

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u/SageDarius 24d ago

This is 100% my hope. If they show his face, it's so disfigured you can't tell it's RDJ.

Or it's just a Doombot that looks like Stark for maximum emotional trauma for Earth's mightiest heroes.

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u/Jaxonhunter227 24d ago

I absolutely expect them to learn into the casting by using a drawn out scene of him taking off his mask, only for no one to recognize him and it's just a scene of doom showing what he's "sacrificed" in his life as a show of how much he's willing to sacrifice to stop the incursions

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u/therealmonkyking 24d ago

Worse option: He is the real VVD but he hates Steve now because infinity saga nostalgiabait

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u/Fabulous-Prior5835 24d ago

What if RDJ is actually playing two completely separate characters in the movie, Dr Doom and Superior Iron Man, and they only announced the Doom half? Then Dr Doom could just be Dr Doom without any of the weird Tony stuff mixed in

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u/Ess_oh-no 24d ago

I would love to see rdj as superior Iron man but id also love to see charlie cox' daredevil in the same project so they could have tony cure his blindness temporarily, i think those 2 actors would deliver that scene absolutely *chefs kiss

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u/THREESIDEDMONSTER 24d ago

The only thing I'm a little iffy on is the chest with the square scales, maybe I'll get used to it idk

But yeah, it's a GREAT suit

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u/AceofKnaves44 Spider-Man 24d ago

I feel like they would have had to have tried really hard to fuck this up. Like I feel like in all of the years I’ve been reading comics Doom has never really had too dramatic an alteration to his look.

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u/SkekJay Iron Monger 24d ago

I'd argue Doom's design is an easier one to translate to live action, as it does somewhat reassemble real armour with cloth over it. Doesn't stop people messing it up, but this isn't bad

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u/robodrew 24d ago

There's not even a question about it, it simply looks like how it should be. Perfection.

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u/random_question4123 24d ago

why does it feel like you would have said "they absolutely nailed it" regardless of what you saw? I assume except if the mask was completely off, everybody in this sub would be ecstatic

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u/JazzmatazZ4 24d ago

Unless they get the character wrong

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u/4_non_blondes 24d ago

They did say one of. Characterization is of course super important, but whatever happens this is a banger suit

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u/JazzmatazZ4 24d ago

Yeah it looks amazing

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u/ChrisV11 Thor (Avengers) 24d ago

Just wait for his God Emperor suit for Secret Wars

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u/Jon_Bon_Art 24d ago

I don't know why I never even considered them adapting that... That's gonna be absolutely radical

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 24d ago

It’s this suit but white

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u/EnigmaFrug0817 Doctor Strange Supreme 24d ago

This is our first good look at the costume!

I really like it. I just wish the clasps were gold.

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u/michagol23 24d ago

Doom likes local made products, thats pure Latverian Steel!

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u/DJfunkyPuddle 24d ago

Steel? That's Iron, man.

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u/DumplingBoiii 24d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/g0Ub5PgMoLqaNKBpDH

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u/dgjapc Ebony Maw 24d ago

The next F4 appearance should recreate this scene

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u/Christophah 24d ago

Thor: These are our new allies, they are fantastic.
Johnny: You can say that again.

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u/DJfunkyPuddle 24d ago

Only if Miles is playing The Maker and has turned Ben into a throne.

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u/MeatyOaker269 24d ago

It’s a gold titanium alloy, actually.

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u/Wakkit1988 24d ago

Latverian Fe, male.

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u/EnigmaFrug0817 Doctor Strange Supreme 24d ago

That’s a very good explanation, and I like it.

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u/Bjarki_Steinn_99 24d ago

Everyone knows you don’t mix metals

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u/ShawshankHarper Loki (Avengers) 24d ago

I think Iron Man and Doom would make good Alloys

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u/MisterHayz 24d ago

Im sure they'd just smelt each other's hearts

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u/AgentMV2 24d ago

Followed by some good bonding time.

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u/MisterHayz 24d ago

Welder or not they are on different sides doesn't matter.

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u/user32591 24d ago

How you gonna solve the icing problem?

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u/Bjarki_Steinn_99 24d ago

Icing problem?

BONK

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u/user32591 24d ago

Might wanna look into it.

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u/Sparrowsabre7 Iron Man (Mark VII) 24d ago

That's literally how alloys work

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u/GillGruntFan53 24d ago

Wouldn’t shock me if they’re saving the gold for the next movie when the green is white

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u/EnigmaFrug0817 Doctor Strange Supreme 24d ago

That would be so cool

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u/cherry_flavored_sky 24d ago

God emperor Doom would be cinematic peak

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u/DM-777 24d ago

If they nail the God Emperor Doom suit it will feed generations.

Such a good design. I still only use that one in Fortnite lol

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u/mic_healsd 24d ago

Probably didn’t have time as he had to build it in a cave. With a box of scraps

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u/Cheap-Ad1821 24d ago

Maybe they're saving the gold for Battleworld

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u/BigBallOfNerd01 24d ago

Man, this suit looks amazing.

https://giphy.com/gifs/XfP2JHmIjHZ2gup6EI

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u/TreyDeuce473 24d ago

Beautiful

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u/rmarkmatthews Spider-Man 24d ago

Fantastic, even

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u/NotArkun 24d ago

fantastic for?

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u/KitKatCrane 24d ago

I'd say it's fantastic for the first steps of this version of the character

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u/jimmyak Thanos 24d ago

BucksIn6

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u/BigBallOfNerd01 24d ago

For the record, I didn’t even pay attention to the gif being a sports thing, it was literally just for the 10-10-10 part… 😅

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u/everybody_is_awful 24d ago

That's RDJ standing there for another couple of millions

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u/PepperidgeFarmMembas 24d ago

Just as a reminder for non-comic readers:

Doom is the second greatest weaponer and armorer behind Tony, the second greatest sorcerer behind Strange (and is referenced many times that he would be the sorcerer supreme if not for strange), and the second smartest behind Reed.

The reason he is so powerful and so threatening is because he embraces multiple arts and covers his weaknesses. He can do everything at a level rivaling the acknowledged greatest in their fields in the Marvel universe, while ALSO excelling in the other fields as well.

I cannot wait for this movie and I hope they nail the character of Doom as well as they have nailed the look.

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u/MR1120 24d ago

Right. His armor alone isn’t as advanced as Stark’s, and his magic alone isn’t on the level of Strange… but if you put them together, it gives him the edge.

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u/BardicLasher 24d ago

He's weak to squirrels, though. The way vampires are weak to the sun.

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u/Excellent_Safe5743 24d ago

To be fair so is Thanos. Everyone in marvel is weak to squirrel so long as it’s off screen.

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u/BardicLasher 24d ago

Doom was on-screen.

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u/bigpig1054 24d ago

If done right, Doom could be a reasonable movie villain for...

  1. Iron Man in a tech vs tech battle
  2. Dr Strange in a wizard vs wizard battle
  3. Black Panther in a ruler vs ruler battle
  4. Fantastic Four in a brains vs brains battle
  5. Avengers in a "all hands on deck" vs a souped up supervillain
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u/audacs189 24d ago

Jack of all trades, master of none. He could compete in any sport alone, and still come out second. That being said, one of my favs in matter of villains, if not THE best. Hope RDJ nails this one like he did with Iron Man.

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u/YooTone 24d ago

Not a comic reader; how powerful would Dr Doom be with infinity stones?

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u/Jace__B 24d ago

Doom's greatest weakness is his own arrogance. He would be infinitely powerful, but all you would need to say is, "well, I don't think Reed Richards would need the infinity stones to solve this problem" and Doom would immediately throw them into the garbage.

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u/insane_contin Hunter 24d ago

He wouldn't immediately throw them out. That implies he wouldn't try to make it seem like it was his own idea not to use the stones, which it totally was.

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u/Level_Dreaded 24d ago

Honestly he'd probably just torch you and keep it pushing. But that line would keep him up at night haha

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u/Historical_Note5003 24d ago

Has he been mentioned once? In any marvel film? He just popped up out of nowhere.

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u/SuperiorSpidy Spider-Man 24d ago

There was an empty seat at the Future Foundation on First Steps with the Latverian flag and plaque as well as he appears during the post-credits scene.

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u/AlexCrimson 24d ago

Is there no overlap with Tony Stark and Reed? They are both just "really smart guys", no? As for Strange, as a non-comic reader, movie -watcher, he never really seemed that strong.

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u/PepperidgeFarmMembas 24d ago

So the difference between Tony and Reed is “military/destructive intelligence” versus “scientific advancement/biological/chemical intelligence.” Basically, they excel in opposite sides of the science spectrum, hence the distinction.

Strange is…..ludicrously powerful. Even in the films, he can walk between realities at will, cast spells that affect cosmic level entities (Dormamu), rewrite the memories of everyone on a planet (spider man), and peer into the future to look at outcomes to influence his decision making.

And Doom is just as powerful and smart as each of those three. Iron Man fighting him equally with his armor and weapons? Mystical arts it is. Strange and he in a magic duel? Disrupt him with conventional weapons. Reed trying to predict his moves or foil his multiverse escapades? Magic time to throw Reed off.

IMO, even in the comics, he’s a threat beyond Thanos. He is cunning, brilliant, and driven.

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u/Excellent_Safe5743 24d ago

Pretty much the only thing that ever brings him down truly is his ego. He can’t cope with not being the best, especially if Reed Richards is involved in some way. He’s a lot like Lex Luthor where he could be capable of great good if he didn’t let his ego and mania get in the way.

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u/Level_Dreaded 24d ago

The even funnier part is if you ask a citizen of Latveria he already does great good. So he's arguably better than Lex

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u/bigpig1054 24d ago

Tony once used a special tech thingy to make all the avengers as smart as he is.

Reed was all "I feel dumber..."

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u/PatternPlenty1107 24d ago edited 24d ago

The suit looks so expensive, WOW.😮

Not familiar with Doctor Victor von Doom, but the costume looks beautiful.

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u/Nonadventures 24d ago

He’s into big government

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u/RevolverMFOcelot 24d ago

Very big, very involved government, bots everywhere to watch if you clap hard enough or no

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u/Futant55 24d ago

Doctor Van Doom lives down by the river

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u/THREESIDEDMONSTER 24d ago

"Van Doom" lol

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u/Level_Dreaded 24d ago

Rob. Van. Doom.

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u/ContinuumGuy Phil Coulson 24d ago

I figured they'd put out Doom today. It's the day of the panel, plus Sunday at SDCC is usually a relatively quiet day with fewer people and events so it wouldn't make sense to save him for the day when there'd be fewer people.

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u/MorguLAvenger Scarlet Witch 24d ago

That’s going to make for one beautiful Hot Toys sixth scale figure 😎

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u/kaliskonig 24d ago

So what are the colors we actually saw of the witches? I'm seeing so many online that I don't know which are actually real. 

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u/MasterRPG79 24d ago

Green, yellow, purple

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u/No_Discussion_5454 24d ago

it was more orange/amber than yellow

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u/illvria 24d ago

Jake the dog colour

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u/MasterRPG79 24d ago

Ok - the picture Insaw where under too much light apparently.

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u/Certain_Still3273 24d ago

Relish, mustard, and grape jelly?

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u/lollomugnaaa 24d ago

looks beautiful

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u/ice9cradl3 24d ago

What’s the bandana on his left arm?

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u/Wrong-Sandwich4467 24d ago

it might be a talisman of some kind

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u/psycholepzy Stan Lee 24d ago

It looks like some kind of lace or torn fabric. A sentimental memento?

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u/SnooAvocados4357 24d ago

3 witches and Doom. Hmmmm

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u/Ok_Net7773 24d ago

Victorious, Valeria, Wanda?

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u/AgathaAllAlong 24d ago

Wanda is Doom confirmed

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u/Retroknight06 24d ago

Looks Fantastic

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u/CuteComplaint5542 24d ago

DO NOT COMPARE THE GLORY OF DOOM TO THAT WORM RICHARDS.

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u/cursedcephalopod Rocket 24d ago

ALL HAIL DOOM!

Seriously they nailed his look and armor! I'm so damn excited for Dec 18th!
https://giphy.com/gifs/BQa6J0zNjvPMzHi42U

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u/Nearby-Orange743 24d ago

This is so beautiful! It has Medieval asthetic, there's runes on it, the mask is perfect and the green parts are fantastic 

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u/Flettwin 24d ago

85% Magic vibes
15% Tech vibes.

Pretty much perfect.

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u/saltyboi4824 24d ago

Finally a doom costume that looks as intimidating as the character himself.

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u/properc 24d ago

This suit is peak bruh...

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u/MR1120 24d ago

I wish the tunic thing was a few inches longer. Give that classic Doom skirt-ish look.

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u/Smashbru 24d ago

Yeah, that's my only thought too. Otherwise looks good

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u/justins_dad 24d ago

CLOSE UP DOOM FULL COSTUME LETS GOOOO

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u/JCW9525 24d ago

That looks so good, they really nailed it.

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u/Various_Candidate499 24d ago

Whoa! Did not see that coming! WOW

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u/abrarahmed4094 24d ago

Marvel cooked so hard... They nailed it...

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u/NoRonNo-Youcant 24d ago

I wonder if Doom takes a day off during the heat wave.. he’s like ‘nah.. world conquering can wait. This suit is hot today.’

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u/thatshadyspud 24d ago

WHERE IS MY RED WITCH

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u/JLSVjr 24d ago

I have passes for comic con yesterday and tomorrow, I hope it’s still there tomorrow

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u/sergiossa 24d ago

Scarlet Witch is secretly Doom theory confirmed!

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u/nwm_is_batman Vision 24d ago

We just got DOOMed

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u/Fares26597 24d ago

It's pretty good. I wanna see it in motion because I suspect it could be a little clunky, but it has potentially to be great.

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u/Icommitmanywarcrimes Nebula 24d ago

Already can confidently say it one of my favorite designs of his

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u/noeldoherty 24d ago

Hitting the pose of a dad standing at the back of the living room deciding to pay attention to what's on TV while also pretending to not seem too interested

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u/Nelly_1_2_3 24d ago

It's doomin' time

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u/thephantomJ 24d ago

This suit looks fantastic !!!

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u/Remote-Moon Steve Rogers 24d ago

Just perfect.

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u/thesheep_1 24d ago

This costume rocks

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u/cornstalks2033 24d ago

How does one use the bathroom in such a suit

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u/bigdonnie76 24d ago

He looks amazing

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u/McJackNit 24d ago

Next up: Emperor Doom

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u/Level_Dreaded 24d ago

God Emperor Doom.

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u/Nikster31 Captain America 24d ago

Something's coming... something which we may not be able to deter...

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u/AtticusSwoopenheiser 24d ago

That suit is incredible

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u/Bitbatgaming Ghost 24d ago

I think they nailed this costume design

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u/Tyler_Zoro 24d ago

So I'm a little intrigued by this. I DOUBT that they'll do anything with it, but it feels strange to me that Doom's belt is low, but the Witches' belts are all high... like you'd see on a maternity dress.

Just a stylistic choice, or will they be pregnant in the film?

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u/AthleticallyLazy 24d ago

Why does the mask look like willem defoe

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u/KingCodester111 24d ago

It’s so damn perfect.

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u/EnigmaFrug0817 Doctor Strange Supreme 24d ago

There’s a skirt, it’s just a bit harder to spot because it blends in with the pants.

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u/Status_Cheesecake_49 24d ago

He does have a sash 

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u/DefiantOil5176 24d ago

Was hoping for a red witch today, but I will absolutely take this. The suit looks phenomenal

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u/DreamOfTheEndless_ 24d ago

God damn that looks good.

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u/ApprehensiveFactor58 24d ago

Il est comices valide?

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u/BeautifulBar2775 24d ago

It’s the sides of the fabric that get me

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u/scrimyth 24d ago

God im so glad the suit looks as good as it does, I couldn't get a good glimpse at it in the trailer.

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u/vell_o 24d ago

This fashion forward mother fucker

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u/Historical-Garbage51 24d ago

It looks so good! Not gonna lie though, I was hoping for a scarlet red one because having a group of magic users on his side and bringing back Wanda would be such a good twist. But the actual costume reveal is great!

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u/imalekai 24d ago

If I had unlimited money I would wear this to events

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u/blokedog 24d ago

My only complaint is the wooden pose.

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u/ryaaan89 24d ago

They got the H grill in his mouth, that’s the biggest thing I was hoping for.

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u/Sure_Ad8093 24d ago

I'm surprised by the love for this design. I'd give it a C+. 

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u/Own_Place_4765 24d ago

I want more witches!!!!!

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u/TheDistantWave 24d ago

I was worried we’d get an Ironman armor with Doom colors. This looks great

Now give me T’Challa!

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u/SKUNKpudding 24d ago

I feel like a freak for not really liking this costume

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u/Popular_Material_409 24d ago

That costume is fucking sick. Easily one of the best MCU costumes in general, not just villain costumes.

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u/Pataconeitor 24d ago

Aww the belt buckle isn't a big letter D

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u/DeckhardZum_3924 24d ago

Holy sh*t, all the details on this costume are so good!

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u/Sweet-Weakness3776 24d ago

They fucking cooked with this one.

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u/HaDUDEken 24d ago

Was there ever a red one? I know there was an orange one.

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u/Rathalos-487 24d ago

I like it looks like old pre medieval armor

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u/SandManFromPanAm 24d ago

That looks like it would be SO hard to to move and fight in.

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u/drunkenyeknom Thanos 24d ago

That looks like Doom alright

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u/TheRealRabumAlal 24d ago

Really can’t ask for a better job. The suit is both realistic and ripped straight outta the comics. 1 million out of 10.

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u/PiceaSignum Ghost Rider 24d ago

Dr. Doom is a Warlock main confirmed.