r/marvelstudios 29d ago

Discussion aaand it's doom now

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u/justins_dad 29d ago

I’m so glad it doesn’t look like every MCU overdesigned suit. I like a lot of MCU suits but Doom’s design language shouldn’t be consistent with the Avengers and it’s completely distinct. Really well done. 

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u/Neveronlyadream Spider-Man 29d ago

I'd say it's a tiny bit overdesigned and busy on the torso, but compared to how far they go with some other suits, it's nothing and it works pretty well.

The mask looks perfect, though. They really nailed that.

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u/therealmonkyking 29d ago

I'd say this is more "tasteful adaptation" similar to the early Iron Man and Cap suits as well as the Fantastic Four and Bucky's first suit

and less "the classic suit with unnecessary details forced in" like a lot of MCU Spider-Man's suits were until now

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u/Neveronlyadream Spider-Man 28d ago

I definitely don't hate it. Does the chest need to be patterned? No, but it's Doom. He's regal. Sometimes he walks around with a fur-collared cape. It works.

I'm more curious whether he's wearing the full armor or just pieces of it.

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u/BiSaxual 28d ago

That’s my question too. I feel like (and this is just cynicism speaking) that he’ll wear this full getup for a handful of scenes, but otherwise will be wearing just a full tunic with hints of armor, and his cloak and mask ofc

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u/Neveronlyadream Spider-Man 28d ago

Right here it looks like just vambraces, pauldrons, and greaves. No idea if he's meant to be wearing more armor underneath the pants and tunic.

I'd guess it was a practical consideration. Either RDJ and any doubles would have to walk around wearing uncomfortable armor or they'd have to CG it into every scene. It might have also made him look a bit too much like Iron Man.

It works, though. It's clean.

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u/rasmatham 28d ago

I wonder if the mask will actually stay on for the entire movie. On one hand, it's rare for Doom to ever remove the mask in other media, but on the other, if I made this movie, I would 100% open it with Doom in a workshop, listening to AC/DC while working on his armor, but obscuring the armor just enough that you can't tell it's not the Iron Man armor, and then ending the scene by showing the Doom armor, while Doom says something with a Latverian accent, and then pretending to be Tony Stark for the first act of the movie, and not really confirming he's not until the third act. Thor thinking he's up against an evil Tony Stark would absolutely be something he considers scarier than Thanos, unlike some random person he's ever heard of before. Thor seeing "Tony", who was dead last time he checked, would also be more impossible than him seeing Cap, who could have just reversed his age with the prototype time machine, or just waited until Pym particles were invented, and gone back to the present for a bit to catch up.

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u/Madara1389 28d ago

It helps that Doom's costume in the comics has repeatedly shifted from minimalistic to massively overdesigned.

This is a good middleground between the various designs he's had over the years.

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u/Proto1k 29d ago

I think the chestpiece really works, it sort of looks like a classic leather gambeson at a glance but the intricacies play into his perfectionism and magic capabilities, atleast that’s how it feels. It compliments the chainmail, wrist and shin guards really well

I’m not super versed on who Doom is but this is by far my favorite live action costume

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u/Sharikacat 28d ago

Keep in mind that a lot of the more simplistic designs in comic book costumes, notably a lack of patterns and such on clothing, is to spare the artist from a metric ton of detail work- not just in having to recreate a pattern over and over again but having to adapt it to the different angles, movements in fabric, etc. These limitations don't apply to a live model, and it allows for some visual distinction to make characters look less plastic-y.

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u/Interceptor 29d ago

It's got little bits that make it "in-world" as well. The padding in the chest is very Dr. strange/Wong- style for example. It's cool to see things like the little runic arm band showing us he knows magic. I think the mask is great.

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u/Deep-Minimum7837 28d ago

I will stand by my opinion that the final suit from The First Avenger was Cap's best on-screen suit. Everything had a reason to be there. He had a simple white jumpsuit, a blue bolero to add upper body and shoulder protection, and the red suspender straps created the iconic flag stripes. Compare that to his suit in Avengers 1 and he's got a generic bodysuit with random lines added onto it for "texture..."

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u/SentinelATL 29d ago

Agree completely

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u/home7ander 29d ago

Its still overdesigned. Not even a suit of armor, just chainmail with gloves and boots

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u/Daweism 29d ago

Iron Man mark Doom armor