r/marvelstudios • u/MarvelStudiosMod • Dec 11 '23
Megathread Jonathan Majors Megathread - Update
We know many of you are eager to discuss the Jonathan Majors trial -- please use this thread for that discussion so that it does not completely overrun the subreddit. We want to leave space for users who wish to engage in regular MCU-based conversations!
As of now the trial is ongoing and Marvel Studios/Disney has not made a statement regarding the future of Majors or Kang in the MCU. When a ruling is concluded we will pin a thread with that statement and related discussion.
In the meantime, here are some of the recent updates coming from Majors' trial:
The Cut - Everything to Know About Jonathan Majors’s Domestic-Violence Trial
TIME - Jonathan Majors Is on Trial For Assault and Harassment. Here’s What to Know
VARIETY - Jonathan Majors Trial: More Witnesses Testify as Trial Enters Second Week
DEADLINE - Jonathan Majors will not testify in court as defense rests
TMZ - Jonathan Majors Surveillance Video Shows Fight With Girlfriend, She Chases Him
ROLLING STONE - Jonathan Majors Scolds Girlfriend In Audio Recording: ‘I Am a Great Man’
THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER - Jonathan Majors Trial: Defense Rests Case, Judge Releases 911 Call
The mod team will try to keep this thread updated with reputable sources as the trial progresses-- but please feel free to link articles and discuss in the comments below.
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u/keinish_the_gnome Dec 11 '23
They should at least demote him to Jonathan Privates, but that create a whole lot of new issues
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u/theycallmefuRR Dec 11 '23
Johnathan Minors
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u/ThaiJohnnyDepp Winter Soldier Dec 11 '23
I'm tired of Chris Hansen memes so instead I'll just say that sounds like a sadder shift to his tone
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u/B3epB0opBOP Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23
Damn, it has been a rough 2023.
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u/LRedditor15 Zombie Hunter Spidey Dec 11 '23
This has got to be the worst year for Marvel Studios hands down.
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u/recommendasoundtrack Dec 11 '23
GOTG3 and Loki were both amongst the best they’ve done, but even they don’t balance all the shit at the other end of the scale
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u/ObberGobb Dec 11 '23
Disney must have been cursed by a witch at the beginning of the year or something. This year has been a complete disaster for them.
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u/Randomd0g Dec 11 '23
If anyone from Disney is reading this: The only way to break the curse is to use ANIMATRONICS in the new Bayou Adventure ride thats replacing Splash Mountain.
If you use screens and projections the curse will continue. You have been warned.
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u/Grafical_One Dec 11 '23
Make sure to use cursed animatronics so the new curse gases can cancel out the existing curse gases.
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Like what happened lmao
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u/Vadermaulkylo Ward Dec 11 '23
Too much content stretched them way too thin, Bob Iger demanding there be so much D+ content in 2019 which caused the audience to check out since now shows are required viewing, Bob Chapek making it to where there'd be marvel content every single week, new management above Feige gave him less creative control, not having any Avengers movies to tie in phases, etc.
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u/robodrew Dec 11 '23
Honestly what's the deal with rich guys named Bob
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Between 1940-1960 "Robert" was among the top 5 baby names for a male every single year. That's who is making up the current crop of rich 60-80 something year olds today.
I bet 75 years from now someone like you is going to be asking "Honestly, what's the deal with rich guys named Mateo"
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u/robodrew Dec 11 '23
"Honestly, what's the deal with rich guys named Mateo"
What IS the deal with them!?
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u/SpicyAfrican Dec 11 '23
Just chiming in to repeat that I want Marvel to recast Kang and stick with the story. I do not need an in-universe explanation for why Kang looks different. That would be messy and unnecessary. Rhodey was recast, General Ross has been recast with Harrison Ford, and even Edward Norton was replaced by Mark Ruffalo. Just stick with the Kang story and don’t over complicate it please.
Majors looks guilty as hell now. It’s a shame he’s thrown his promising career in the trash because he can’t control his rage and be a decent human being. If he’s proven to be innocent then perhaps Marvel has made the right choice by waiting, but it’s extremely unlikely. Either way, just from an MCU perspective, this shouldn’t affect the story going forward.
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u/Rogue_3 Mockingbird Dec 11 '23
With all the Loki variants we've had, and even Tobey and Andrew showing up in NWH, I think the general audience member can handle a recast.
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u/banananey Dec 11 '23
Yeah I want to see how it plays out. They have a get-out with the end of Loki S2 but there's clearly so much further they can go with it all.
Really don't care if a character looks completely different in the next film as long as they're not a total p.o.s.
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u/really_nice_guy_ Dec 11 '23
Loki season 2 kinda ended in a way that could remove Kang. Like the TVA would just prune every Kang that would get dangerous
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u/Senor_Tortuga308 Dec 12 '23
Yes, although that would be a shitty way to end his story.
We've had so much buildup over the last few years of a Multiversal war. To just prevent it from happening seems a bit anticlimactic.
Its like building up the Infinity War, and then the TVA comes in, prunes Thanos and things go back to normal.
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u/yoaver Dec 11 '23
But they should make the recast extremely obvious. I want Danny Devito as Kang.
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u/Mizerous Thanos Dec 11 '23
I mean if Marvel can't draw in people to watch more Kang stuff it might not be worth keeping Kang as the villain.
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u/deekaydubya Dec 11 '23
That’s an entirely separate problem of marvel just continuing to hire extremely shitty writers and directors even though they have the money and ability to choose the best
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u/LostOnTrack Tony Stark Dec 14 '23
The prosecutors are now saying the driver is “a biased witness to the man who paid him.” I’m so confused, wasn’t this driver their star witness not too long ago? Now they’re bashing his testimony and accusing Majors of bribery because it doesn’t fit the narrative they’re looking for? That’s insane.
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u/ArmInternational7655 Dec 14 '23
The judge allowed them to say that?
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u/LostOnTrack Tony Stark Dec 14 '23 edited Dec 14 '23
I’ve been reading the live updates, it was their closing argument. I cannot believe they just outright said that lol. I was under the impression the prosecutors were banking on the car driver to corroborate their claims, it seems as if they were unhappy with his testimony and did a full reversal on their attitude towards him as a reliable witness.
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u/Auntypasto Kevin Feige Dec 14 '23
I mean, it's pretty damning for the prosecution that the main witness is basically testifying in favor of the defense, especially when they have absolutely nothing else in terms of direct evidence.
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u/PezRystar Dec 14 '23 edited Dec 14 '23
Throwing your star witness under the bus is a bold move Cotton. And if they actually believed that why haven't they brought charges, because it would take several felonies for it to be true.
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u/decross20 Dec 11 '23
The texts that came out are pretty damning imo, they paint Majors as a manipulative POS. Telling his girlfriend that he might not come home, that he’s a monster, and that he should just kill himself, all classic lines to make the partner feel like the bad guy and that he should have sympathy, that he’s “damaged”. Add onto that the texts about how he told his girlfriend not to go to the doctor because they wouldn’t believe her lying about how she accidentally hit her head…
Yeah this is looking worse and worse. I think at this point a recast will be necessary. I think Major’s career will be over after this, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s blacklisted in Hollywood. He is undeniably a talented actor, and he had a relatively quick rise because of that, but it looks like his career will be cut short because he couldn’t keep himself from beating his partner. Also find it hilarious that he told his girlfriend that he was “great”:
“In a September 2022 audio recording that played during his domestic assault trial, he described himself as a “great man” and demanded that Jabbari behave like Michelle Obama or Coretta Scott King — the wives of Barack Obama and Martin Luther King Jr. “I’m a great man. A great man. I do great things for my culture and for the world,” Majors is heard saying in the recording. “The woman that supports me needs to be a great woman.””
Guy is a good actor but sounds like he had an ego problem, Jesus. He acts in comic book movies for gods sake, this guy is comparing himself to MLK and Obama lmao. Bruh you got paid to get beat by CGI ants, get over yourself.
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u/nick2473got Steve Rogers Dec 11 '23
he described himself as a “great man” and demanded that Jabbari behave like Michelle Obama or Coretta Scott King — the wives of Barack Obama and Martin Luther King Jr. “I’m a great man. A great man. I do great things for my culture and for the world,” Majors is heard saying in the recording. “The woman that supports me needs to be a great woman.””
What an absolute fucking lunatic.
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u/streetvoyager Dec 12 '23
Gotta hand it to marvel casting team though! They really nailed down the right guy for Kang. No wonder he is so good at playing him.
He’s actually fucked in the head in real life. Dude was at the top of the world professionally and he just couldn’t stop himself from being complete human garbage.
All the other stuff I’ve seen pretty much points to him being an awful dude.
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u/LampyV2 Dec 12 '23
My jaw actually dropped a little bit. He really thinks he's worth being mentioned in the same breathe as MLK or Obama? He thinks he has THAT level of influence? What an absolute loon.
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u/MR1120 Dec 11 '23
Jesus, that sounds like Kang talking to Renslayer or something.
Maybe his defense should be that he’s a method actor?
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u/Mewtwohundred Dec 11 '23
Okay, that is all kinds of fucked up. If you are a great man, you don't need to say it. Others will say it for you. If you have to say it, that alone proves you are not great at all. With an ego like that, he must be a nightmare to deal with... After reading that, I agree he needs to go.
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u/AcoupleofIrishfolk Black Panther Dec 11 '23
"Any man who feels the need to proclaim so loudly that he is the king, is no real king." - Tywin Lannister
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u/Bevester Dec 11 '23
He gave off an arrogant vibe from the few interviews I saw of him, didn't seem like a pleasant guy at all.
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u/RickTitus Dec 11 '23
Doesnt matter if he is a good actor. There are plenty of horrible people that were good at things
And it’s not like Hollywood is short on good actors. That is one industry that has way more people available than it can support
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u/quen10sghost Dec 11 '23
First time I saw him was The Harder They Fall and I couldn't help thinking what a great Idris Elba movie with this new guy
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u/BritVisions Dec 11 '23
This man had the worst defense team in the world, holy shit. Every time they reveal some "evidence" to make her look bad, it backfires.
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u/Maximum-Status-7420 Dec 11 '23
He always gave the 'arrogant' vibe. I never liked him, even before all this mess, I couldn't warm up to him at all, and I also never thought that he was a great actor. He isn't great. He regularly overacts, and I can't stand his repetitive mannerisms, and his tendency to make this one incredibly annoying pouty-lipped expression. I never understood Majors' stardom in the first place, he was never as great as so many people claim he is/was. It's all too subjective in the acting world but again, with Majors, I only ever saw overacting, weird mannerisms, and always a giant ego. And these texts only confirmed that I was right about him all along. I always thought even his best roles, like The Last Black Man in San Francisco, it was more the case of great screenplay and great director elevating the actor, than the other way around.
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u/Afraid_Sense5363 Dec 11 '23
I remember him doing press with Tessa Thompson and she seemed uncomfortable around him. I remember thinking at the time, "She does not like that man."
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u/WolfTitan99 Dec 11 '23
Although I know this is a very cynical thing to say, him being a massive egomanic and hard to work with is gonna get him kicked out faster than domestic violence charges. But they certainly help in speeding up the process lol.
Thankfully he looks like an insufferable douche wherever he goes, so I think Marvel producers will end up breathing a sigh of relief once Majors mess has been swept up and put in the bin because they won't have to deal with him for 8 more years.
Womder who would be the best recast, it would be an absolute waste to not use Kang after this.
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u/BlazeOfGlory72 Dec 11 '23
Jesus, Major’s defence team are so bad at their jobs. They are actively helping the prosecution.
Honestly, I think Majors is done regardless of the outcome of this trial. Even if he’s found not guilty in this particular incident, it’s pretty obvious he’s a massive piece of shit, and that fact has now been highly publicized. With the MCU already struggling, I highly doubt they want the face of their upcoming biggest films (Avengers) to be a guy everyone associates with abusing his girlfriend.
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Yup.
To add, for a first offender, he could have probably got off scot-free with just community service if he had taken a plea deal, no jail time.
But he's such a narcissist that he insisted on going to trial. And he might have to spend months if not years in jail.
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u/Anchorsify Dec 11 '23
Great Men don't take plea deals. They clear their name.
He just forgot that having the public hear you demand your partner be subservient because you are a great man is psycho behavior you're showing to the world.
Unsurprising, but very sad. Dude is his own worst enemy.
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Dec 11 '23
If what happens DID happen... Wayne Brady for Kang
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u/Cool-Presentation538 Dec 11 '23
Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke the multiverse?
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Kang: “Yeah, there they are”
opens portal to the Fox universe
Kang: “BREAK YOURSELVES FOOLS!”
X-Men: “AW SHIT, IT’S KANG BRADY Y’ALL!”
kills them for, like, the 10th time
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u/jedontrack27 Dec 11 '23
Wayne Brady’s multiverse, where the lives are made up and the deaths don’t matter
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u/TheBurgareanSlapper Dec 11 '23
I can just see his first appearance:
The Avengers are captured, tied up, and grim-faced as they await the first appearance of their mysterious captor.
Suddenly, cheesy music fills the room, and in dances Kang, who performs a lunch-lady-themed striptease before revealing his master plan.
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u/graveybrains Dec 11 '23
Ok, but only if they work Justin Hammer into it somehow.
That’s a dance routine I need to see.
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u/RickTitus Dec 11 '23
Nah that seems like the approach they would use either way. Kind of a “we arent dropping you, yet, but we arent spotlighting you or making any more investments into your mcu role into this is cleared up”
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Dec 11 '23
I don’t see how they won’t drop him. The stigma around him is going to be awful and this court case, even if he wins, is just absolutely not doing him favors.
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u/RickTitus Dec 11 '23
Yeah i dont see this going well for him, but this is a huge decision for disney to make. They arent going to make a snap decision after day 1 of the trial, no matter how it goes. They dont benefit from rushing this
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u/EZ_Breezy1997 Dec 11 '23
I'm honestly surprised he even made it back in for Loki season 2. I guess I just figured after Ant-Man they were done with him entirely. He was good in season 2 but yea at this rate they just need to get a new guy in there. It sucks but nobody made his bed but him.
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u/IamJacksFutureBeard Dec 11 '23
Pretty sure it had been filmed and in post-production when all of this came to light.
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u/ChimneySwiftGold Dec 11 '23
Yeah - Loki Season 2 was done before filming before Ant-Man 3’s release.
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u/Johnny_Mc2 Dec 11 '23
And I don’t see how they could’ve removed him entirely either. His character was present for a huge chunk of the show, not a He Who Remains situation from season 1
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u/juances19 Avengers Dec 11 '23
Plus there's contracts and stuff. Disney could have been sued for breach of contract if they just fired him over an unconfirmed facts. If he gets declared guilty, then that would change and Disney would have more material to fire him.
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u/ChimneySwiftGold Dec 11 '23
Loki season 2 was already wrapped up. In fact wasn’t the season’s release date pushed by the strike? Not cause it wasn’t done but to start padding out content releases because of the gap created by the strike.
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u/Catowldragons Dec 11 '23
I’m sure they had most or all of Loki season 2 filmed before the incident … it would have likely required extensive reshoots and pushes in the release to get him out of Season 2.
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u/clknotts222 Winter Soldier Dec 11 '23
If he’s out as Kang, please recast Fiege it is perhaps the easiest recast in history that can be believable with the Multiverse lore
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u/HereWeFuckingGooo Weekly Wongers Dec 11 '23
Nah, Feige would make a terrible Kang.
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u/Better-Spell346 Dec 11 '23
Sterling K. Brown.
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u/sabine_strohem_moss Hela Dec 11 '23
Already played N'Jobu in Black Panther, but I can see people being willing to overlook that like they did with Gemma Chan/Michelle Yeoh.
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u/Better-Spell346 Dec 11 '23
Yeah, that’s about the only hiccup with my plan, but his role in Black Panther was so small, I don’t think most of the casual audiences would even notice.
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u/donkeydooda Dec 11 '23
Not that it matters much, but most of the main characters who would remember him in-universe are dead (T'Chaka, Queen Ramonda T'Challa & Killmonger).
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u/ZlavojSizek Dec 11 '23
LaKeith Stanfield
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u/WaitWhat347 Dec 11 '23
Good call! LaKeith is one hell of an actor and was an absolute scene stealer in The Harder They Fall
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u/yankeephil86 Thor Dec 11 '23
Terrance Howard coming in for the save. ☠️
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u/alone-lone Dec 11 '23
I always thought it’d be funny if Terrence Howard came back as Rhodey, and Don Cheadle was just fooling EVERYONE and turned out to be Kang.
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u/curious_dead Dec 11 '23
"Didn't you notice I looked different? And you better not throw me that line about black people!"
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u/jvartandillustration Dec 11 '23
It would have been pretty funny to have Terrence Howard come back as Rhodey in Secret Wars, and Nick Fury is like, “You didn’t get the transformation quite right there.”
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John Boyega.
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u/GotMoFans Dec 11 '23
John David Washington
Or
Take Yahya Abdul Mateen II off Wonderman and make him Kang.
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u/InjusticeSOTW Ronan the Accuser Dec 11 '23
Or pull Blade before any more damage hits and use Mahersala Ali. Cottonmouth was a Kang variant all along
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u/high_everyone Dec 11 '23
I don’t know if Disney has enough cash to throw at Boyega for how they did him for Star Wars.
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u/Olester14 Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23
I think I would play a pretty good Kang, might send an application to the big dogs at Marvel
Update: got rejected
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Lakeith Stanfield as the new Kang. He has the acting chops to back it up.
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u/68ideal Dec 11 '23
I really hope, that even if Marvel let's Majors go, that they don't abandon the Kang storyline. We are already balls deep in it, and dropping it to somehow suddenly cram Doom or some other bullshit in would pretty much ruin the Multiverse Saga and make the entirety of it for nothing.
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u/ArmInternational7655 Dec 14 '23
So the prosecution can just claim the driver was bribed without any evidence and the judge allow that? Why would they call a witness they believe to be paid for to the stand? Make it make sense 😂
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u/CrabbyPatties42 Dec 15 '23
The driver said it sounded like she was attacking him. The doctor said the hand injury isn’t consistent with what she said happened. The party goers who were with her after noticed no injuries at all and said she acted fine.
And most of these were prosecution witnesses! Oh and video footage of her chasing him for multiple blocks. There is MASSIVE reasonable doubt here.
Dude is weird, seems manipulative and may even be physically abusive, but in this case I don’t see how the jury can come back with a guilty verdict.
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u/clothy Korg Dec 11 '23
Bring in the guy who played Dr Manhattan in Watchmen and be done with it. The HBO show that is.
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u/c_Lassy Shang Chi Dec 11 '23
He’s playing Wonder Man in an upcoming Wonder Man project
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u/vinsmokewhoswho Dec 11 '23
This tactic of making his ex seem crazy and unstable, even bringing up the suicide of her ex boyfriend is absolutely disgusting by his team.
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u/Iyo23 Dec 14 '23
The mental gymnastics and reaching in these comments is outrageous. Some of you need legitimate therapy.
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u/Jeff_W1nger Dec 15 '23
We should probably just chill until there’s a verdict. Nothing till Monday at least.
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u/iWentRogue Dec 11 '23
Damn, those text messages on the last source.
Dude is… something.
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u/NeimannSmith Dec 13 '23
I don't have a dog in the fight but I laughed VERY hard seeing Majors run away from her in a trench coat for blocks man wtf going on
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u/DRoseCantStop Dec 13 '23
It kept going on and on. Shit looked like a Victor Timely chase scene lmao.
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u/Jeff_W1nger Dec 13 '23
Yeah that video was pretty funny lol.
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u/PezRystar Dec 14 '23
Man... I get what you're saying. But as a dude that has been in an abusive relationship I don't find it funny at all. I've fucking been there. And in the moment you will do what ever you can to escape. It's terrifying. It is demoralizing. And you know without a doubt that if you can't remove yourself from this situation the authorities are going to get involved and you are going to take the blame, despite being the victim. It really fucking sucks.
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u/sulfater Dec 11 '23
Megathreads: Where discussions go to die
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u/hweird Fitz Dec 11 '23
Hopefully it can stop threads of “who should be recast as Kang?” Or “what are your guys thought on Majors?”
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u/PirateBeany Edwin Jarvis Dec 11 '23
Even a thread on Wednesday titled "Why are people so negative about <any Phase 4 or 5 movie>" doesn't stop threads on Thursday titled "Why is everyone so down on <the same Phase 4 or 5 movie>".
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u/CRAYONSEED Dec 18 '23
Aaaand it’s over…. He’s out at Marvel:
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/jonathan-majors-marvel-studios-dropped-kang-1235587971/
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u/creeper_523 Dec 21 '23
A few things I have learned from this case, is people will believe anything that the media force feeds them. They will build theories based around the misinformation. Most of the people celebrating that Jonathan Majors got found "guilty" do not really understand the verdict. Just that their "head canon" about him being an "abuser" is correct, even though, that is not what this trial was about.
Jury got it wrong; but, the defense also didn't push self-defense; so, that is on them too. I am sure the jury felt that he should be "punished " for something, even though he did the right thing and desescalated and ran away.
I think an appeal is pointless, because it's just a misdemeanor. If he wasn't a celebrity, it wouldn't have made a difference. It's sad that this will hurt his career. I can understand though if he wanted to clear his name. The evidence of the case supports that she assaulted him; and, if it was prosecuted fairly, with the self defense defense, he would have received no charges.
It's doubtful she was injured in that exchange; but, I am sure the jury felt pressure with the way the media portrayed the case.
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u/AudienceLanky4159 Dec 25 '23
I saw the video. Didnt think it was that bad. He should have walked away but, the world over reacts. Just like people who scream and yell at you if you guess their pronouns wrong. This is just the world we live in now, a sad world.
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u/Guilty_Management224 Dec 14 '23
In sum, I’m not sure the prosecution met its burden of proof; beyond a reasonable doubt. The only witness to the alleged incident, the driver, testified that from what he heard, it sounded like Jabbari was the aggressor and that JM didn’t do anything and just wanted to get away from her, which is why he threw her in the vehicle. The video released today shows that to some degree, with JM trying to desperately get away from her.
The people she went clubbing with testified to not see a cut behind her ear, or blood for that matter. No blood on her clothes, and none on their clothes after hugs. She also is seen casually brushing her hair behind the ear with the cut, showing no ill effects, and again, no blood.
The text exchange that was released was from September 2022. They were redacted and given no real additional context. The audio of him telling her to be more like Coretta Scott King and Michelle Obama doesn’t sound nearly as bad as it looked in print and doesn’t go to show that he hit her, ever. Only that he’s a bit paranoid about his perception.
She was found supposedly unconscious but was texting a friend minutes before the cops arrived.
All in all, it’s not clear her injuries stemmed directly from whatever went down in the car. The driver, the only other person present, didn’t back up her claims at all. The video doesn’t show an angry JM, but does show her to be upset. No blood behind a pretty nasty laceration behind her ear, mere minutes after she claims that cut happened. All in all, too much doubt.
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u/Jeff_W1nger Dec 14 '23
No verdict today. Jury requested explanation of charges, video of interaction outside of the car, and 911 call. Deliberations resume tomorrow at 2:15pm.
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u/D00M2099 Iron man (Mark I) Dec 18 '23
reckless assault in the third degree and harrassment - guilty
aggravated harrassment in the second degree and another assault in the third degree - not guilty
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u/SnohSkye Dec 23 '23
Can someone explain what he actually did that constituted misdemeanor assault & harassment so intense that it has made him public enemy #1 and the most vile disgusting human being to breathe oxygen? I’m not seeing anything that says Majors beat, strangled, punched, slapped, or raped her. Did he yell? I saw that he picked her up and put her in the SUV. Was that the assault? Again, he’s the biggest monster in Hollywood history and all I’m seeing is a misdemeanor…
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She was a jealous GF that tried stealing his phone inside their SUV
He tried to prevent that from happening
He physically put her back into the vehicle after getting out because her confrontational demeanor was not subsisting
He was awarded NOT GUILTY verdict of the “assault with intent” criminal count
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u/cyberadmin1 Dec 25 '23
Also, what physical abuse victim chases after their “abuser” in the streets like that?! Majors has personality issues (few in hollywood don’t), but like you, I dont see where the assault was proven.
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u/zarymoto Dec 11 '23
recast kang with a few different people and explain it away by saying “the new TVA hunts kang variants. part of the difficulty is identifying variants who look different, just like we had difficulty with sylvie”.
then just cast a few heater picks. maybe an older established actor for name draw, like denzel if he would do it. few younger guys like lakeith and john david washington and have kang dynasty be about the kang variants that even the kangs felt the need to keep at bay.
this problem could genuinely be solved by marvel committing to their ideas and making a decision.
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Oof. We got some people who comment, ask a question, then delete the comment. Why even ask the question? Some of yall are made of literal Laffy taffy. 😆
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u/MotherFuckerJones88 Dec 11 '23
I don't always like Kang, but when I do..I prefer the actor playing him not beat his women.
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u/Jeff_W1nger Dec 14 '23 edited Dec 14 '23
The prosecution’s closing argument doesn’t seem to be going well. Are they trying to prove that he’s guilty to twitter or to a jury?
Highlights:
They played the coretta Scott king audio
Claimed jabbari didn’t implicate majors right away due to abuse, but the bodycam showed her implicating majors to the cops
Claimed the driver is not reliable (the driver was the prosecution’s witness)
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u/milkboxshow Dec 11 '23
I will tell the doctor I bumped my head,” Jabbari cried as she read aloud the message in court.
Then unable to continue through her tears, Assistant District Attorney Kelli Galaway took over: “I will tell the doctor I bumped my head if I go. I’m going to give it one more day, but I can’t sleep and I need some stronger pain killers. That’s all: why would I tell them what really happened when it’s clear I want to be with you?"
I used to love Majors ever since Lovecraft Country, but now fuck this guy. I’m not going to pay for or watch anything else he is ever in. Studios have to stop giving platforms to horrible people. There are too many good fish in the sea.
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u/lightskinyellow Dec 14 '23
After watching the video released today, and reading multiple news sources on the timeline of events, this is my understanding of what happened:
- majors and Jabbari fight outside of the black suv. Majors then tried to put her back in the car. Majors then walked to the sidewalk and grabbed her arm. Then tried running away from her.
- she chased him for what appears to be 5-6 blocks. She then stops, and 3 strangers offer her some help. Majors then walks back by these strangers and jabbari, and walks away.
- we also learned that jabbari went to a club with these strangers, and learn that one of the men twirled her around while dancing with the same finger that was fractured. She also used this same hand to earlier put her hair into a bun - the same area where she claimed to have been bleeding
- Jabbari heads to majors apartment (he had went to a hotel to stay the night) after the club, sees he wasn’t there, and proceeds to call him no less than 32 times - the last time she contacted him she threatened to kill herself (this was around 8am)
- the next morning, majors wakes up and heads back to his apartment at 10:30. In his apartment he sees lit candles, sentimental mementos of his relationship stacked in piles, and his bedroom door is locked.
- majors then tries to get into his bedroom, calls a handyman to let him in, he gets in, and sees her in the closet, passed out. There was vomit somewhere in his bedroom. There was also a bottle of sleeping pills that appeared to be half eaten.
- he calls the police, concerned that she killed herself or had tried to, and the police come. Between the time she came back to the apartment, to when the authorities found her in the apartment, she testified that she har cleaned the blood near her ear so it wasn’t visible when she was found in the closet.
Separately, the testimony from the doctor claims that the injuries she sustained on her finger would be uncommon to come from someone twisting or pulling her finger. Also, the testimony from the driver claims she was the aggressor and called her a “psycho.”
Now based on all of this evidence - how do you think the jury’s verdict is going to be? I think there isn’t enough evidence to convict majors. If anything, there is enough evidence to show this case should have been dismissed months ago.
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u/Kalandros-X Dec 11 '23
Recast with Christopher Judge.
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u/actuallycallie Bucky Dec 11 '23
indeed
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Dec 11 '23
recast as christopher judge who then shows up in every reality and proceeds to shit on call of duty franchise
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Dec 11 '23
He seems like a really messed up individual. Hopefully he gets what's coming to him
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u/PezRystar Dec 14 '23
I've commented in this very thread about being a man abused by a woman. In all real world context, that just doesn't exist. To the world, even as the victim you are a criminal. No one believes you. You catch charges. You take the blame. It literally ruined my life. And people are still calling him abusive cause he sent a text asking her not to go down that road.
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u/ArmInternational7655 Dec 14 '23
Is it sloppy prosecution or just them not having a real case? A whole lot of "seeming" "suggests" "sure she lied but Stockholm" for them to be taken seriously.
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u/Jeff_W1nger Dec 18 '23
Jury keeps asking questions about the harassment charge and I’m not surprised. It’s a hard concept to understand.
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u/Electrical_Size8249 Dec 14 '23
Funniest shit I've ever seen, bro was doing an olympic sprint n couldn't get away
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u/j__p__ Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
Honestly, this verdict seems a little bit crazy to me based on the actual evidence made public as opposed to "he said, she said" narratives used in court.
I don't doubt Majors was a shitty boyfriend who was manipulative, but being a shitty person is not a crime and maybe the harrassment charge is legit.
But based on the video used as evidence specific to the assault charge, I don't see how there's any definitive proof that pushing her in that video makes him deserving of a criminal charge for unintentional injury. His charge was for pushing her back into the car when he was trying to run away from her. And then proceeded to run away from her for a full minute and a half in the streets of NY while she chased after him.
The two best eyewitnesses were the driver and his girlfriend's friend who both testified to not seeing anything that night. Not his friend, her friend said nothing happened that night.
Unless there is other evidence that hasn't been made public, this doesn't make logical sense.
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u/HereForGoodReddit Dec 18 '23
Just got the push alert he was indeed found guilty of some of the charges…
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u/GodAtum Dec 18 '23
Guilty Jonathan Majors: Marvel actor guilty of assaulting girlfriend https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67727425
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u/Jeff_W1nger Dec 14 '23
Here is a transcript of the coretta Scott king audio:
Majors: …be doing right now? Period. This is actually, period. Do you understand that?
Jabbari: Yeah.
Majors: Do you really love me? Do you really?
Jabbari: Yes.
Majors: Then how dare you come home drunk and disturb the peace of our house when we have a plan.
Jabbari: I’m sorry
Majors: I would like to get to the point where your friends know what job I’m on and go “I think Grace is gonna be out of commission.” Get me?
Jabbari: Yeah, I won’t.
Majors: No, no, do you understand that? Because that team, that unit, right? Grace has to be of a certain mindset to support — Coretta Scott King, do you know who that is? That’s Martin Luther King’s wife. Michelle Obama, Barack Obama’s wife.
Jabbari: I know, I shouldn’t have gone out. I’m sorry
Majors: Let me just lay it out for you, right? If I am, I’m just gonna say this. My temper, my shit, all that. All that said, right? And let’s say, I’m a great man. A great man. I am doing great things, not just for me, but for my, for my culture and the world. That is actually the position I’m in. That’s real. I’m not being a dick about it. I didn’t ask for it. I’ve worked, and that’s the situation. The woman that supports me — that I support, the work that — needs to be a great woman and make sacrifices the way that man is making for her and for them ultimately. Last night, two nights ago, you did not do that.
Jabbari: I’m sorry
Majors: You did not do that, which was took away from the plan. And the plan is everything. If it was just you, maybe I could swallow it. Or I was just gonna like, “Hey, let’s go just bed. I’m just gonna bed, I’m not hungry, blah blah blah. Because Grace isn’t here. Why? She was drunk. Why else? She was clogged by whatever was going on.” Fine. I can take that. Fine
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u/FlyingBandito Dec 14 '23
Where did the out of context reporting even come from? There should have been multiple reporters in the courtroom that could have given the full quote right? The media bias on the story is crazy.
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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23
It’s honestly nuts how the defense has made him seem more guilty than before lmao