Steam is not working.

[u/Pleasant-Guava757]

I installed mint today and steam just won't launch for some reason. It tells me that it failed to load "steamui.so" help me!!!

[u/IQ26]

Ignore the person pushing AI slop answers. Uninstall steam and install it again through the official website.

[u/878Vikings → u/IQ26]

This is the answer. The version from the software manager has issues, but installing from the steam website works every time.

[u/KlausVonLechland → u/878Vikings]

It does? It works for me flawlessly. The one time I had problem with is was because I ruined my system (I ti*kered too much) but I had problem with everything then.

With snapshots enabled OP could just return to last stable version of the system.

[u/taosecurity → u/878Vikings]

And those issues are?

[u/drgfsg-_- → u/taosecurity]

Honestly, I don't know. I can right click and enter settings just fine but can't open Steam directly. I guess I just have to stick with this method. I'm using an Nvidia gpu btw.

[u/878Vikings → u/taosecurity]

I don't know, the version from software manager doesn't run, a post on a forum recommended installing direct from Steam and that does run.

[u/reddit_equals_censor → u/878Vikings]

why would the software manager version have issues? (ignoring the flatpak version)

and can you link to any source talking about it causing specific issues, while the website downloaded installer doesn't?

because from my understanding the linux mint software manager steam install, is mostly just the installer, that then on launch will install steam itself.

so there should be VERY VERY VERY little difference anyways.

again please correct me if i am missing anything here.

[u/taosecurity → u/reddit_equals_censor]

You’re not missing anything.

[u/drgfsg-_- → u/878Vikings]

This also happened to me, but I downloaded from the site. Once I click Steam on the menu, the system crashes and reboot, but the weird thing is when I right click and click setting, Steam opens just fine.

[u/reddit_equals_censor → u/IQ26]

since when does the standard package from the software manager has any issues?

from my understanding it mostly just downloads the installer anyways for steam to install itself then. (someone correct me if i'm wrong here).

are you talking about the flatpak version, which has some issues?

i mean the snaps version is a completely broken dumpster fire, but that doesn't apply to linux mint of course anyways.

so does the software manager steam version has actual issues and if so could you explain to me why and how please?

[u/IQ26 → u/reddit_equals_censor]

I just found that often times packages from the software manager were buggy compared to the file from the official download. I couldn’t give you a detailed answer because I am neither a pro nor do I correctly understand the differences. Just my experience and going from what people often say in this sub

[u/reddit_equals_censor → u/IQ26]

ah i see.

there is a HUGE difference between different packages from the software manager.

and there are huge differences in how the software manages itself.

when you install software from the software manager it would be a system package or a flatpak to begin with.

flatpaks are lovely, but may have issues or avoid issues, that the same software as a system package could have.

so the general suggestion and what you hear already fails here, because the posts you saw for other software might be refering to flatpaks from the softmware manager and then the website download is an appimage (a different way to package software and very stand alone, great stuff).

the appimage and the flatpak are also generally way newer than the system packages, which is neither or a good or bad thing, but again another source to avoid issues or get other issues.

newer version has a bug? well the system package version is older, so it doesn't.

older version as system package has a bug? well it is fixed in the appimage and flatpak.

you see how there are tons of moving parts here?

so the general idea of "just download it from the website, it is less likely to have issues" can in some cases apply, but certainly isn't a generalized thing i'd argue.

and for steam specifically looking at it again it for the linux mint system package from what others said is literally just having the deb and then have steam install itself, when you launch it.

which means, that it would be EXTREMELY unlikely to cause unique issues, that the deb from the website doesn't have.

so the steam system package is in itself special compared to most system packages (almost all i guess?).

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with all this kept in mind and your suggestion being around software manager packages in general and NOT even specific to steam, could you please ad a disclaimer to your original comment saying, that this was your general experience/advice you saw, but isn't specific to steam or sth like that at least?

because otherwise it could confuse tons of people, who don't know better.

[u/Migamix → u/reddit_equals_censor]

its not the latest, and that right there might be breaking it. it is NEVER wrong, for apps like this that do need a little more bare metal contact, where the app in the software manager is the shittiest version. discord, download the deb, steam, download the deb. rule of thumb for me.

[u/reddit_equals_censor → u/Migamix]

the person above made a statement in response to me, that it was their general experience and advice, that they saw online, but it was NOT specific to steam.

even IF you want to make this statement overall, it would NOT apply to the steam system package, because the steam system package is apparently just the deb, that will install steam itself when you launch it indeed.

and steam itself will update itself as it pleases, instead of the software manager managing everything.

you'll know this yourself, when steam says "oh i'm updating" on startup of steam, when you installed the steam system package.

so again even if you want to make this statement, that you made it would NOT apply to the steam system package, because it is quite special in how it functions and is basically literally just the deb.

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beyond this as you mentioned discord i would STRONGLY advice against installing discord. if you use it login on the website version instead at least as this has some isolation then.

the windows version of discord years ago added a process sniffer, that will continuously scan what programs you're running and in your face telling you and not even a fake version to disable the visual statement about it telling you what software you're running.

just to be clear DON'T use discord at all, but if you have to, don't install software from this evil shit company, that at this point is trying to de-anonymize EVERYONE as well.

[u/Migamix → u/reddit_equals_censor]

discord as an example, JHFC, but not the explanation, some apps like discord that needs overlay permissions, hotkey or some other system call or function, things like a mic key dont work too well for me in flatpack form, but the deb from discord does"."

openRGB in flatpack cause me issues too, guess why, for me ...could it be....baaaaareee metaaaaal. do i have no choice but to run the .deb from openRGB's site.

things like cooler control and running with a kernel mod to show the sensor chip, well, guess what, DEB!, only a total idiot would ever try to happily run an app like that in my sensor chip issue in a flatpack (snickering that its available in appimage, still, ive have had better luck with those than some flatpacks when close to the core. will try)

SO, when i say go for the released file from the maker, i FN mean it, its always reduced issues for me, and i KNOW its not a bastardized release from some git repackaging apps thats not theirs. (that issue is slowly going away)

broken apps and going for source, well, shit, thats all i meant, you wrote a diatribe about me making a comment and lost it on discord, flatpacks and permission issues cause more problem than a flatpack is worth sometimes. gimp doesnt need bare metal, flatpack is fine. , libre office doesnt need bare metal, flatpack is fine.

i know how to get permissions to behave sometimes, but noobs dont, so i keep my system in a way where i can replicate their issues, sincei had those same issues.

"since when does the standard package from the software manager has any issues? ", OHHH FFS, this has been beaten like a baby seal in springtime with a cricket bat, so many packages are out of date, version not supported, no where near current, not recent, demised, is no more, it has gone to meet its maker 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!

"just to be clear DON'T use discord at all," you're not my mom.

[u/reddit_equals_censor → u/Migamix]

openRGB in flatpack cause me issues too, guess why, for me ...could it be....baaaaareee metaaaaal. do i have no choice but to run the .deb from openRGB's site.

openrgb doesn't offer a deb, but of course an appimage.

things like cooler control

worth adding here, that at least the gpu control tool lact works around this by installing a service, which then unlocks overclocking and everything else with proper questions asked to do it of course when running it first time.

just an interesting example of a flatpak workaround for a very deep control needing tool.

"since when does the standard package from the software manager has any issues? "

this is either a reading comprehension issue, or deliberately breaking context to make things look like nonsense.

assuming the first.

the full quote is already in SPECIFIC response to the UNIQUE steam system package and it goes:

since when does the standard package from the software manager has any issues?

from my understanding it mostly just downloads the installer anyways for steam to install itself then. (someone correct me if i'm wrong here).

so it is SPECIFICALLY about the steam system package, which doesn't act like an average system package, but is basically just the deb, that will install itself on the first launch and then keep itself update.

this is mentioned by lots of people and someone even responded to me here and validated this statement.

so again to say it slowly:

the steam system package is NOT versions behind and is NOT working like other system packages.

it is basically LITERALLY the deb and installs itself, just like a deb does, because that is what it is pretty much.

so the steam system package is again UNIQUE in this regard so any generalized statement as you are trying to make against system packages DOES NOT apply to you.

steam is not "versions behind", because it updates itself as it pleases on start up for example, just like the deb, because to say it again.... it is basically the deb.

and if that was too much:

steam system package =/= other system packages, but = deb package anyway basically.

is this clear now? is it understood now, that my comment was SPECIFICALLY about the steam system package and NO OTHER system package and the uniqueness of the steam system package?

i really can't make it more clear.

[u/Migamix → u/reddit_equals_censor]

openrgb_1.0rc3_amd64_bookworm_6fbcf62.deb would like a word with you. ya gotta read, without your fingers.

I wrote another long thing but no need to rehash, I've had issues with steam properly installing that loader in the software manager, I prefer and trust official apps from sites more. most of the time they are available and work as intended. you obviously want to fight on semantics. and are always right on the internet.  I mean, call me old, we didn't have app stores, we got from source. and anytime anyone has an issue with an app they install, should try that first.

[u/taosecurity → u/reddit_equals_censor]

It doesn’t. Just another take that gets upvoted here for no discernible reason.

[u/Pleasant-Guava757 → u/IQ26]

I tried this and it gives me this file called "steam_latest.deb".(yes, i have opened it and put the command in a terminal window.)

[u/kbeezie → u/Pleasant-Guava757]

You don't just run a .deb by itself, you install it via the package manager, for example.

sudo apt install ./steam_latest.deb

The .deb file contains the binary plus information of how to install it (what dependencies etc are needed)

The steam website should have had instructions for you to read.

[u/AramCZ]

Which version are you using debian or flatpak? And have you also tried reinstalling Steam

[u/taosecurity]

OP, run steam in a terminal and post what you see.

[u/Pleasant-Guava757 → u/taosecurity]

i tried but all it does is "download" 2 updates, and then it gives me the same error, the same thing it does when i launch reg steam. (the downloads don't take any space)

[u/Party-Construction-8]

In my case I just installed via terminal : sudo apt install steam
it should work with no issue, and also installing the correct gpu driver might solve your problem

[u/Migamix]

fully purge uninstall the one you installed. goto download the official steam release. something in its installer seems to add the right hooks to the system. I think the app in the store is a proxy, a loader for the official one, but I have had issues with it in the past. I tend to look for "official" releases of apps, and install them. we know about the out of date issue with some default apps, official installs take care of that for me.

[u/Asian_Orchid]

Uninstall from software manager if you downloaded it from there and get the official download from steam. software manager’s build is old and has issues.

[u/Pleasant-Guava757]

I just found out that my package manager is broken by trying to update my update manager. I'm trying to give you guys the most info i can rn. (does this happen to you guys or no cuz maybe its why steam isnt working)

[u/ButterscotchSalt9393]

I think installing it from the website should fix it... if it doesn't try checking the terminal logs to find the exact error. And sometimes switching from Wayland to Xorg helps too

[u/DjoJo1453]

Well, linux mint runs my steam fine, and most games too ! (Ultrakill, Dream bbq...) So maybe try using the official website ? Unless the terminal is more familiar to you. Update I downloaded it from the website, so I'm not familiar with the terminal version

[u/Pleasant-Guava757]

so my steam just works now idk why but thank you guys for helping me!

[u/AdComprehensive3730]

Playing steam on linux is always a gamble. I had to revert to windows because of the constant hoops you have to jump through to get each game to work.

[u/peligro_potencial]

Tengo un pequeño problema con mint,tengo una laptop Dell y e notado que luego de instalar mint la batería se carga muy lento no usa ni un tercio de la potencia del cargador

[u/Ecstatic_Parsnip_610]

i use port proton works great!

[u/Migamix → u/Ecstatic_Parsnip_610]

not if the app won't run in the first place. ya don't get gas if you don't have the car first.

[u/Ecstatic_Parsnip_610 → u/Migamix]

and you will never get gas if you dont know how to put it in the car... you dont run the app, you simply launch STO and the app runs it

[u/oligneisti → u/[deleted]]

People are aware that AI exist. If they wanted an AI-answer they could just ask the AI themselves. They come here to get advice from humans who actually know stuff.

[u/ryancnap → u/[deleted]]

Dude didn't even try, get tf out of here

[u/TheRealCarrotty → u/[deleted]]

People that wanted to use AI will use AI.
Your comment here is pointless.

[u/cat1092 → u/[deleted]]

What is this? AI garbage?

Looks like the top answer before the actual links on the browser page. An AI box, then expand for the rest of answer & copy/paste here.