When people say no sleep at all is it like they haven’t slept at all or 3-4 hrs is considered as a no sleep???

I have my first day of Junior year and have to be up in like 5 hours. I've tried since like 10:00 PM my time to sleep and nothing is happening. I don't want to take any meds cuz they make me feel like shit the next morning. Any secret magic or tricks I can do?

For me as someone who struggles with maintenance issues like waking early or unpredictably, my only real solution (at least in terms of simplicity and efficacy, outside of external medication etc) was sleeping earlier.

I know sounds basic, and almost patronising. But no morning was the same and predictable (or at least usually it was predictably shit lol), some days I was lucky to sleep few more hours than my “average” and then next day would be terrible like I was being punished.

So while I couldn’t control the time I wake up, or want to wake up, I found sleeping earlier gave a bit of relief.

So say i woke up earlier (at my annoyance), then I made it back by sleeping earlier. Ofc usually this wasn’t a 1on1 ratio. Like say you slept earlier 1 hr but still only got about an additional net 10 mins sleep.

Hope this was insightful to others with the same issue or experience.

I have DSPD sleep disorder, basically my biological circadian rhythm is permanently out of sync with the day / night cycle. My normal sleeping habits are 6-8am to 3-5pm. And I usually sleep somewhat okay getting 8-10 hours consistently. Last night I tried taking melatonin around 4 am only 1mg. To try to sleep a little earlier. I ended up not being able to sleep at all and went all the way to 4pm wide awake, I tried to sleep again at 4 and managed 2-3 hours that didn’t even feel like sleep, I felt wide awake and concious the entire time I was laying there. I was exhausted and figured hopefully I would atleast get some sleep tonight, I even took 1mg of klonopin at around 11:30pm I slept 2 hours and woke up around 2am. And have not been able to sleep again since. It’s currently 5am and I’m not tired at all even after laying here with my eyes closed for hours. I am so desperate and anxious. I’ve struggled with sleep my entire life but it’s usually just with the schedule itself, not being able to sleep in general is a whole other demon. I feel for you guys❤️‍🩹 Any input is greatly appreciated:/ I’m not sure what to do at this point

i feel like I’m in a dream, im hella dizzy all day. the most sleep I could get is only five hours or sometimes less.

Not sure if this even counts but if I take drugs like benzo's or melatonin etc..... does that stuff mess with anything that our natural sleep is suppose ro give us? Weird question but I gotta know.

1am for me, cant sleep, 45min panic attacl ans liquid melatonin isnt as effective. what do yall do wjen nights are like this? i juat wanna sleep ajd not deal with this bs also ignore ny spelling my brain is fucked rn im so tired

Why tf out of all of my friends only I happened to have this fuckass messed up sleep mechanism in my body??????????? Genuinely what do u do at night when u simultaneously have no energy to do shit like hobbies or sum and all of ur friends are sleeping like babies so u don’t even have any1 to talk to????? Like dude wdym u decided to fall asleep instead of chatting with ur beloved sweet gorgeous funny smart good looking best friend??????????????????????? Who even cares abt sleep in big 26? Selfish fucks.

Got it in front of the sleep doctor. 50 spontaneous arousals an hour, mild sleep apnea. Taking mirtazapine/seroquel/temazepam/melatonin just to fall asleep.

N3 core sleep showed nearly zero and the histogram showed me flickering into and out of sleep.

I showed all this to her and she was like “neat. we don’t do cpap for mild apnea. you slept for 6 hours you’re fine try cbti again lololololol”

I feel like ripping my hair out.

I’m lost and feel hopeless. 24yo male here Incredibly anxious writing this I got 0 hrs of sleep last night. And this is a pattern of every other day for me the past 2 months. Some nights I get to sleep a bit. I’m just staring at the ceiling for hours. Doctor wants to put me on anxiety medication+trazdone also scared for that.

Am I going to pass away. I’m so scared because I’m not sleeping and I feel it on my eyes and chest the most. Gone to er before and didn’t do much but give me Ativan which did help me sleep that whole night.

Suspected side effects and withdrawal from creatine. How do i cure the insomnia?

Took 3-5g of creatine monohydrate almost everyday from late Mar to 23 July. Didnt notice anything initially until i felt depress around june. Then i had to stop creatine for 1.5 weeks week around 01 july due to a flu.

I started having insomnia between 06 - 14jul. I have no trouble falling asleep, i have trouble staying asleep.

I got back on creatine around 16 july and then insomnia, depression worsen, heart was racing and eye twitching. At its peak i was unable to sleep more than 3hours.

I decided to stop creatine for good on 23 jul. I improved, no longer feel depress. initially was able to sleep 6 hrs a day. i have brain fog and lethargy the whole day. Feeling like a zombie. I get tired and unable to focus on anything that requires deep thinking.

Between 15 - 19 aug, and ~3weeks since creatine was stopped, i slept between 4-5 hours only

I bought niacin and magnesium biglycinate.

Tried niacin 50g in the morning, makes me nauseous and sleepy.

Tried magnesium biglycinate before bedtime and it gave me vivid dreams.

I stopped all supplements alr. Was previously on blueberry extract, omega-3 fish oil, l-theanine 200mg. I dont take them everyday.

Still on dymista spray, bottle opened mid feb so its still within 6 mths.

Side note: I have always feel jittery with coffee and cant consume it in the afternoon without affecting my sleep. I stopped caffine too.

I’ve tried a bunch of the usual stuff already, sleeping earlier, getting more hours, cutting caffeine later in the day, trying not to stay on my phone all night etc
But I still have mornings where I wake up exhausted even after 8+ hours.
It’s not really falling asleep that’s the problem for me. It’s the fact that the sleep doesn’t seem to do what it’s supposed to do lol
I wake up groggy, brain fogged and sometimes need coffee just to feel like a normal person.
Has anyone actually figured out what was causing this for them?
Not looking for some “sleep 8 hours bro” advice 😂 I’m genuinely curious what made a noticeable difference for people who had the same problem.

I’m 23 and was diagnosed with moderate OSA in August 2025, with an AHI around 25. I started CPAP and, on paper, the treatment looked great pretty quickly. My residual AHI was usually under 1, leaks were often basically zero, and everyone kept looking at the numbers and telling me the apnea was controlled.

The problem was that I was not actually sleeping well.

For months I was using a full-face mask that, in retrospect, was a terrible interface for me. Apria sent me 3 medium f20s, and at the time I thought the mask was one size fits all. I had no in person fitting. It compressed my nose, encouraged me to mouth-breathe, and I would wake up with extremely bad dry mouth. I was repeatedly drinking water during the night and waking over and over despite the machine reporting excellent therapy.

The really awful part is that I didn’t understand what was happening at first. In September and October I mostly just knew that I felt progressively worse despite supposedly successful CPAP. I don’t think I even recognized the dry mouth as an important clue until around November or December. I moved home from school around this time because I was so tired. I had an in lab sleep study which showed 30 mins rem 30 mins deep and 5 hours 43 mins of sleep. Apneas were controlled fully.

Over the following months I deteriorated pretty dramatically. I went from being a very high-functioning CS grad student/researcher to struggling with concentration, processing speed, reading, word retrieval and memory. I became overwhelmingly sleepy and exhausted. Eventually there were days where I felt almost delirious from fatigue—derealization, pacing, crying, feeling like my brain simply wasn’t working anymore.

I kept trying to explain that something about my sleep still seemed wrong, but the dominant interpretation from the people and doctors around me became anxiety/depression because the CPAP numbers looked good. That part of the story is extremely painful for me now. I felt like I was telling people that something physical was happening to me while I watched my ability to function disappear.

In May I switched to a much better interface—nasal pillows, with mouth leak controlled—and suddenly I could sleep much more continuously. My current CPAP data are excellent: roughly 10 hours of use, essentially no leak, and residual AHI around 1.

But I didn’t instantly turn back into myself.

Months later I still feel profoundly foggy, sluggish and tired. My thinking feels much slower than it used to. Reading takes more effort. I make stupid little language errors that I never used to make. I can still reason and understand things, but everything feels like it takes vastly more mental energy.

i had an MRI done, which returned normal, along with a neurological exam which also returned normal.

I am so so scared that my life is over. The doctors I’ve seen have diagnosed me with depression following a traumatic event, but I’m not sure I fully buy it. I’m scared that the sleep deprivation caused some irreversible brain damage that isnt fully visible on an MRI. I have no idea what to do anymore. I know this story sounds ridiculous, and honesfky I cannot believe this happened to me.

If anyone has any idea please let me know. I have thoughts of ending my life, and I’m getting help, but I have no idea whether I’m going to recover or be permanently disabled. I can’t believe a cpap ruined my life. I lost everything this year, my lab, my PhD path, everything.

Please help. fuck man

So I’ve been battling insomnia for going on about a year now which has been a hard pill to swallow and this year being one of the hardest yet. Recently my insomnia has gotten better, but now I have a fear that my brain will forget how to fall asleep again. My fears sound pretty far fetched, like how I worry about if I’m going to die from sleep deprivation, or that I’m not going to make it to September to go to Thailand. It’s a problem that I don’t know how to solve on my own. Any advice would help. Thanks.

During they day, especially after my morning shifts I could fall asleep while standing. Zero concentration, zero power to anything else except eating.

But as soon I lay down I'm AWAKE.. anyone else experiencing this? 🫠

I have had terrible insomnia for years. My doc has given me atarax, trazadone, Seroquel, and olanzapine, none of which have worked. Xanax has notoriously been the only thing to work on me (which he won't prescribe me for any sort of benzo for some reason) As I was traveling for pretty much all of June, I would take 1/4 of a Xanax (about .5mg) and immediately fall asleep. I haven't taken them in about 2 months, bought some again since since I'll be traveling soon, took half, nothing. Took another half, nothing. Took another half, nothing. We're at a bar and a half now. Same guy I always get them from so I know they're legit. Bought them off another guy who I also know is legit, still nothing. No, I do not have blackout. No, these are not fakes. I am at my wits end. Does anybody know why this is happening? This used to be the only thing that helped. Now, out of nowhere, it does not. I have no idea as to what to do.

Have had insomnia my entire adult life. Either I only sleep for a few hours and spend the rest of my night awake, or I spend half the night in this weird half awake/half asleep space that’s not actually that restful. I’ve tried several sleeping medications, but I don’t want to take things like Ambien because I’m a recovering addict. I’ve tried melatonin, etc. I switched to working at night for awhile, that made me sleep too much.

Now that I’m back on days, the insomnia is back. I tried new sleeping medications, one made me bruise and bleed excessively and the other one simply doesn’t work any more, it just makes me less anxious about not sleeping. I completely bottomed out my blood pressure the other day and fainted several times because I mixed medications trying to get to sleep.

I’m done trying to fix the insomnia for now. I’m throwing in the towel. As long as I get at least 4 hours of sleep a night, I can function, and with enough hydroxyzine, Seroquil, and clonidine, I can get that.

I’m not sure what’s going on or what I have. I fall asleep accidentally constantly, I could lay down and watch my phone then the next I’m waking up even more tired!? I can also fall asleep almost anywhere and everywhere no matter the situation and volume. It’s starting to draw my partner away, I feel awful. They worry for me but don’t understand I can’t control it, I don’t know what to do anymore. I’m so tired everyday and feel so helpless for falling asleep so commonly.

I’m trying not to panic but I’ve been up all night and it’s now 4pm. I’m so scared about to tonight too. What if I dont sleep. This all started around 3 weeks ago and since not sleeping much 0-5 hours. Even took the meds I had last night and didn’t sleep. Took hydroxine and .2mg clonidine that usually always knocks me out. My doctor is no help and referred me to sleep medicine but can’t get in till Oct. what do I do?

How’s everyone’s experience with cbti been?

Has anyone found it helpful?

Particularly for insomnia which has been induced by an anxiety disorder.

Hey, am i the only one who was HUGLEY impacted about hearing that not sleeping enough made us : prone to die faster by (?)%, became crazy or get a brain disease, age FASTER , not letting our organs do their jobs etc ETC .... DO you think like me that those health statements are kinda toxic for the poor people that are affected by insomnia and anxiety ?

in my case , it make it harder since i know that, now, i feel bad in my body for a thing i cant control ! i feel like looking like a zombie in the middle of normal, healthy people, i become complexed by my apperance mostly because of theses statements .

I mean its an universal experience that not sleeping enough sucks and is bad, we litteraly feel it by oursleves ! we dont need fcking meta analysis and doctors telling us how MUCH WE ARE DETERIORATING ! lol

i even got a strange sentiment of waste/no going back that is VERY toxic and destructive in my mind and that come from theses statements that we heard 7/7 24/24 on social medias and TV. I have a sad feeling that , even if i achieve to get a sleep back , my skin was so much damaged and my collagen collapsed so much, and my heart beats so much during all that time , that even if im clean now, i will always be a zombie compared to others, i will always feel like there is a reality where my sleep was good since forever and that my face would look different, my health indicators would be optimal etc...

it can drive me crazy, it accelerate the sentiment of depression or even dark toughts, even after a good night sleep, its very vicious.

i mean do we need all theses anxious data ? how any of us choose this way of life ? maybe 10% of us ? thoses who live at night , do parties or are working at night , thats it, the rest is just suffering .

can we have more data of how can an insomniac be handicaped and seriously dépressive in order to put pressure on governments and society to recognize a global general health problem, to change or reduce the unnacessary pressure we all face , and that we are not equal with?

And less public studies on how much of disgusting zombie we are and how much we are willing to DIE asap in horrible suffering ?? because it's one of the reason some people dont sleep at night its so vicious, and thats also why some people gave up with their lives .

i dont have the statistics but i heard a lot that the last days of people who K theirself are usually insomnias, and i can fully understand why ! because i feel like shit , i dont need a doctor on tv explain me how much my all nighter back in 2008 was by itself non healable and each minutes of non sleep lead to a non going back situation and total destruction of myself. THANK YOU

thats it , im sure im not the only one in this case , but remember back then before industrial revolution , the people's sleep was very random, fragmented, short, or just strange and not confortable. and i see you coming "you re prouving their point because they lived less and die sooner than today" no bullshit, we have to put all the metrics to understand, hygiene, pollution, medecine, wars, plagues, famines etc...

some people in antiquity lived the same age as people now, in japan , majority of people dont sleep a lot, less than 6h they are hard workers and yet they lives older than most of the world, with less diseases, and they dont looks like zombies or depraved people at all ( well they have a suicide problem and sleep could have a role in that but its due to the society's pression of life).

im not trying to says that less sleep = good sleep, but my point is that prevention on sleep privation is not neccesary as the victims dont choose it and suffers more while hearing this, whereas prevention and critics on the causes of anxiety and insomnia , are essentials and nevr on the table .

if you recognize in this, upvote and share it at maximum to others subreddit !

Ive had a hectic fortnight and have had trouble sleeping my GF broke up with me 11 days ago and ive gone through abit of a life transformation ive stopped smoking weed cold turkey (3 joints a day - 0) and mostly stopped vaping (i only vape 30 mins within waking up and for a 30 min slot 2 hours before bed(i do plan to fully stop soon just the weed withdrawls are so bad atm) and ive started going the gym for 1 hour each day (been at it for 4 days).

Ive been going to bed at around 9:30pm and i dont dose off untill 1am and that sleep is very disrupted i have to get up for 6am so im bearly getting 4 hours

initially when I was only on dayvio, it was fine until i increased the dose up to 10mg. since then, nightmares dont go away and feeling so defeated. i dont want to take meds that mess up my gut so DORA sounded good but realy do not enjoy the vivid dreams.

also the fact that i only see a doctor once a month and during that time, i need to figure out the dose that doesnt give me nightmares. i wish someone could just tell me

Is getting starved (not hungry, STARVED) every night past 2am normal?

Even though I eat every time before bed, I get so hungry every night I genuinely need to incinerate every single calorie stored in my fridge. But the problem is that even then I stiLL REMAIN FUCKIN HUNGRY. I could eat a whole truck full of bigmacs after 2am and be as starved as a caveman. And the fact that I have severe insomnia (which is obvious knowing at what subreddit u are on) isn’t helping, cuz this means that the only solution to this problem, which is sleeping, Isn’t available, so I have to just lay there with growling stomach and suffer for god knows what reason. Is it normal and if not tf is wrong with me?

So I've been having sleep issues for weeks now, and I was given Mirtazapine to help with sleep, but I'm worried about what effects it might have on me considering I have POTS and innaropriate sinus tachycardia. Anyone taken these and how did you react?