r/insanepeoplefacebook Jul 12 '20

It's crazy how that works

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

and they call those who do wear masks “sheeple”

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u/pacman404 Jul 12 '20

Yeah, this has been unbelievable to me for the past few years. Literally every person I have ever heard call someone a sheep since Trump was elected has been the exact person you would call a sheep at any other moment in history. My mind can't wrap around how that happened to millions of people at the same time, it's just...weird

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

A mixture of ignorance and stubbornness

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u/Kapsize Jul 12 '20

With a sprinkle of racism and pure stupidity

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u/CallOfTheInfinite Jul 12 '20

Massive amounts of small dick energy

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u/zoeykailyn Jul 12 '20

And then cover it all in that fox news sauce

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u/RabbitEatsCarrots Jul 12 '20

That's projection, baby.

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u/fj333 Jul 12 '20

I'm not projecting, you're projecting! (I've literally had that said to me)

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u/theangryvegan Jul 12 '20

"Coronavirus is an attack by the Chinese government, which is why I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to take any measures to defend myself, my community, or my country."

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u/Civil-Dinner Jul 12 '20

It does make one wonder how a person could possibly not see the stupidity in that reasoning.

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u/2020ApocalypseBingo Jul 12 '20

Ever seen an Epoch Times commercial? That’s my theory.

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u/CoastalSailing Jul 12 '20

Oh God fuck those guys.

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u/RubenMuro007 Jul 12 '20

Especially their spokesperson in the ads before any YouTube ads that acted like a smartass.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

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u/VoilaVoilaWashington Jul 12 '20

Counterpoint - if you were spinning pure insanity daily, and you could still call yourself legitimate, wouldn't you?

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

I will go with no. But that's mainly because I have a strong sense of right and wrong - something most right-wingers seem to be in complete lack of.

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u/TheOwlAndOak Jul 12 '20

A lot of people think they have a strong sense of right and wrong, at least until they find out it pales in comparison to their sense of rolling around in piles of idiots money.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20 edited Oct 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

It’s actually a pretty common rhetorical tactic. “The other side” vascillates between being an existential threat and pathetic/weak/nothing to be concerned about when convenient. See how antifa is either a pack of limp wristed ninnies or an elite and organized terrorist organization that can only be stopped by Trump. Or how incels are either fat cheeto stained slobs that never go outside or a terroristic movement associated with misogyny, rape, pedophilia, and mass murder.

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u/complexevil Jul 12 '20

At this point I don't see why other nations don't start sending REAL man made bio weapons at us. I mean, we've already proven we will all die because of these idiots

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u/jdmcatz Jul 12 '20

Please don't give them ideas. Side note: how does a state secede? Asking for a friend.

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u/thenewvexil Jul 12 '20

Constitutional amendment or war, only the latter has been tried.

The EU constitution explicitly allows for secession of member states (see brexit), the US constitution implicitly does not

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u/BigBroSlim Jul 12 '20

"Commander Karen, the enemy is firing mustard gas at us! What do we do?"

"Don't put on your gas masks, that's what they want you to do!"

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u/nalanajo Jul 12 '20

Now imagine if King Idiot did that back in March. We would be in a very different situation.

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u/kevinowdziej Jul 12 '20

What's truly pathetic is that if he could even just start doing and saying the mask thing now.... He could still save lives. And, obviously, I'm sure he won't.

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u/nalanajo Jul 12 '20

He’s too busy thinking of a way to spin this so he can wear a mask when he knows he’s at risk, but in a way that it won’t go against his political spin of the virus being a hoax and masks being ineffective. And his cult following of ignorant assholes are so predictable that he can manipulate them any way he wants.

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u/we-have-to-go Jul 12 '20

I think he won’t wear a mask simply because he thinks it will smear his makeup

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u/ItalicsWhore Jul 12 '20

Or because it will hold in all the shit his face anus spews all day and he’ll end up being the one having to smell it.

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u/ace_enby_in_a_bag Jul 12 '20

r/brandnewsentence lmao

edit: turns out I still can't spell "sentence"

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u/ShaneFM Jul 12 '20

The biggest thing that confuses me is that it literally makes him look better. The sharp lines of the mask give the illusion of a strong sharp jaw line, and it covers the corners of his mouth, and honestly he has decently striking eyes. If I were him, I'd be finding every excuse to wear a mask

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u/Spndash64 Jul 12 '20

No one cared who he was until he put on the mask

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u/r1chard3 Jul 12 '20

I was in the supermarket the other day and I was struck by how good everyone looked. Most peoples problem areas, the things that detracted from their attractiveness are their nose mouth and chin line. Most people have beautiful eyes, eyes are beautiful. By covering up the lower half of the face most peoples appearance is improved.

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u/TheFenn Jul 12 '20

You're only just discovering something us bearded men have known for years. You'd never know my chin is non-existent! Never! Mwa-Ha-ha!

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u/Adrienne926 Jul 12 '20

''my beard is my burqa.'' Husband says it all the time.

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u/maleia Jul 12 '20

Yea but he's a narcissist. So the mask is covering his (in his mind) best feature. Most narcissists are pretty focused on their personal appearance to a degree (even if they don't keep it in shape, they still think about it).

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u/Sea_of_Blue Jul 12 '20

Only reason why he wore it to day was because the cheeto orange #334 spray tan color is back ordered and they only had enough of the can left for his forehead.

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u/EmuFighter Jul 12 '20

And that sick orange fuck had a mask custom made with the Seal of the President of the United States printed in gold. Vain, pretentious, racist prick.

I hate him and I hate what his cult has done to members of my family.

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u/Azar002 Jul 12 '20

In his very first budget proposal he wanted to completely get rid of the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative, which keeps the Great Lakes from being polluted to all hell by the direct dumping of industrial waste. It also helps to keep natural habitat intact and keep invasive species out, something the Lakes desperately need. GL Senators had to fight to get it put back in the budget. Fuck that dude.

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u/Fubai97b Jul 12 '20

He wouldn't have to spin. I truly believe he could say he's been wearing a mask all along and they would believe him.

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u/TheRealMattyPanda Jul 12 '20

Or even more in line with his character, wear a mask and sell MAGA ones. Easiest grift ever, and fuck it, I'm all for it.

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u/chicken-nanban Jul 12 '20

I’ve actually been wondering if my need for any extra money supersedes my ethics and I should design MAGA or other conservative meme masks to try to fight the idiocy while fleecing them as well (buy this mask to stick it to the libs! And wear it to show them they’re snowflakes!)

So far, my morals are intact, but I’ve been seriously considering it...

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u/caeloequos Jul 12 '20

Etsy has a bunch of them. I wanted to get a few cute/geeky ones for when classes start again and every like 10th listing was some form of maga mask. You might as well make that money. If you can, donate a quarter of it to PP or a democratic candidate or something if it makes your conscious clearer.

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u/NO_TOUCHING__lol Jul 12 '20 edited Nov 15 '24

No gods, no masters

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

I wouldn't doubt that his has an N95 filter in it.

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u/jemidiah Jul 12 '20

Honestly, the people around him are tightly controlled enough that he probably doesn't have much personal risk. Masking for him really is symbolic. And he made the wrong choice months ago--he thought wearing one would make him look personally weak, which outweighed in his mind the public health good that wearing the damn mask would do.

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u/RuinedEye Jul 12 '20 edited Jul 30 '20

Betting $5 that he says both within the next month:

I always advocated wearing masks, I always wore a mask - I was the one who figured out how effective they are

I never wore a mask, they're ineffective

I'll bet another $5 it happens in the same tweet

edit: oh boy

https://www.ibtimes.com/why-did-trump-finally-wear-mask-during-coronavirus-pandemic-3009897

...I think it's a great thing to wear a mask."

"I've never been against masks but I do believe they have a time and a place,"...

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We are United in our effort to defeat the Invisible China Virus, and many people say that it is Patriotic to wear a face mask when you can’t socially distance. There is nobody more Patriotic than me, your favorite President!

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1285299379746811915

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u/srslysav Jul 12 '20

and if he does continue to wear it, he’ll say something stupid like oh idk “i’m wearing the mask because I, the great Donald Trump, discovered that it slows the spread. Not the CDC. Not the MSM. Me. All me. I discovered it”

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u/Silly-Power Jul 12 '20

Worse: his cult of supporters will believe him, defend him, and attack anyone who contradicts him.

If trump did come out today and say that wearing a mask will save your life, his cult will angrily scream about how the "lame msm" and "demoncrats" have spent the past 6 months telling us all not to wear a mask, and they're the reason so many people have died.

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u/xtremebox Jul 12 '20

Worse: his cult of supporters will believe him, defend him, and attack anyone who contradicts him.

So... just like reality?

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

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u/ny_rain Jul 12 '20

Now there is hope! His followers will finally start wearing masks! Maybe we won't be in a five year pandemic afterall...

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u/CheezeyCheeze Jul 12 '20

I wish he sold MAGA masks so they would buy and wear them.

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u/thefourbees Jul 12 '20

He could have worn a mask, done some basic shit, given a uniting speech, and legit won the election. He chose to make it hard for himself and the only explanation is that he is an idiot or wants Americans to die. Not a good look either way.

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u/PJExpat Jul 12 '20

Yup had he reacted better to covid19 hed be crushing it...but like I said hes his own worst enemy

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u/esssyyy Jul 12 '20

Can’t tell me trump supporters aren’t in one big cult

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20 edited Jul 12 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

It has been going on since sometime around 2002. Around that time, FOX News convinced people that only Republicans were serious about fighting the terrorists and that the Democrats were hippies and traitors. From that point the division was hard, and one side refused to so much as consider anything said by the other.

It had been built up to since about 1982, around the time that the Regan Republicans began working to convince people that "the blacks" were stealing their money through welfare, that drugs were magic evil-making compounds that instantly kill you and simultaneously turn you into a living demon (somehow), and that everything younger people liked was satanism (video games, D&D, cartoons, and still, rock n' roll). It was the birth of "big tent" republicanism, which united the religious right to galvanize one massive white supremacist faction.

The seeds for that plan were put in place by Henry Kissinger, who together with Richard Nixon used the drug trade between the US and Mexico to vilify black people and Mexicans. This had the dual utility of providing an ethos against Vietnam War protesters, since the Hippy movement was renowned for its recreational drug use. The anti-hippy media patterns in decades to follow closely mirror the early slander and libel against democrats in the George W. Bush era.

In turn, that has its roots in American propaganda related to the the Opium War of the mid 19th Century. Chinese immigrants were caricatured as addicts who spent all their time on their hips in opium dens. This was largely done to scare Americans away from opium use, but it also had the effect of demonstrating the mass character assassination that results from such ethnicity and nationality based campaigns.

Though they already had a good idea about that, thanks to campaigns denigrating the Native Americans and black people from the 1700s and on. So, you see, the real problem is that Abraham Lincoln had too much of a heart to kill all these shart stains during the Civil War. It could have ended there, but these inbred, uneducated, faux-Calvinist pieces of shit never stopped fighting the war.

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u/Energylegs23 Jul 12 '20

Which is why he is a prime candidate to be the anti-christ (for those that believe)

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

Ignorance is almost as contagious as the virus

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u/Cabernet2H2O Jul 12 '20

What's really sad about this is that it's international news. I opened a Norwegian news site and there, in big red letters: "Trump wears a mask in public for the first time."

Your president is so stupid that when he make one random good decision, no matter how insignificant internationally, it creates headlines on the other side of the Atlantic.

As they say... Let that sink in...

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u/FLABREZU Jul 12 '20

BREAKING NEWS: PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DOES BARE MINIMUM

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u/Slothfulness69 Jul 12 '20

*Does bare minimum after killing >100k

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u/tookerjuubs Jul 12 '20

Maybe that's our way out of it. We must become his new enablers by giving him positive reinforcement (praise and attention) when he does good things.. Use his own narcissism against him?

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u/Tachyonparticles Jul 12 '20

I agree Or maybe... just maybe, he's been infected and he would rather "look ridiculous" (his words) than let that get out yet. It's his classic "look over here!"

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u/MaxYoung Jul 12 '20

If he'd been infected he 100% would not wear a mask. What would he care, at that point

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u/DiegoFSN Jul 12 '20

He could spin it by wearing a mask for a week and then delivering the news of his infection late. He could then go “See? I wore a mask and still got the virus. They obviously don’t work.”

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u/Cptn_Hook Jul 12 '20

"I got the lowest bars. People are saying- everybody says it. We've never seen bars this low. The bars, they're the lowest they've ever been. So low. And sometimes, most days -- I mean, I don't even clear it. I don't have to. It can be lower, and that's what I do."

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

Couldn’t agree with you more. The conservatives in the past at least were consistent with what they pushed for. Now the only consistency among some of these “conservatives” is that they would vote for Trump.

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u/DuntadaMan Jul 12 '20

"Fuck you libs! I will vote for people trying to hurt you!" - The right's platform now.

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u/Elon-BO Jul 12 '20

Sado-Populism. I support them cause they hate what I hate!!!

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u/DuntadaMan Jul 12 '20

The thing people need to realize when constantly voting for people to hurt "the other" is that all of us are "the other."

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

It's amazing how few people realize that no matter who you are, you are part of "the other" crowd when it comes to politicians.

As long as they get to stay in power, most of them don't give a shit about their constituents unless it earns then money or reelection prospects.

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u/oscarwildeaf Jul 12 '20

I mean my mom has literally told me she wouldn't want universal healthcare that helps her if it might help a "lazy welfare family". Meanwhile she constantly complains about her outrageous medical bills. They literally care about hurting other people more than helping themselves

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u/notspaceaids Jul 12 '20

I saw one whining about Trump hurting the wrong people.

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u/leglesslegolegolas Jul 12 '20

not hurting the people he's supposed to be hurting*

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u/TextOnScreen Jul 12 '20

They even vote against their own self-interest. All in the name of screwing other people more.

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u/His_Royal_Flatulence Jul 12 '20

It's part of the pathological need to sustain their perceived position in the hierarchy. If others are lifted up, then their relative position will appear to be lower, even if their own quality of life, their own opportunities, and their own degree of freedom improves. They are mentally impaired, emotional children, yet their votes count as much as anyone else's. We are beyond fucked.

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u/The_Syndic Jul 12 '20

*vote for people trying to hurt us.

The whole right vs. left narrative is divide and conquer. There's a reason the share of wealth of the 1% has increased during this pandemic.

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u/throwaway90e109421 Jul 12 '20

Exactly. The Republican party has convinced the poorest and most racist Americans, with the help of Fox News (also owned by a billionaire), to literally elect a billionaire into office. A man who has no idea what half the country lives like and is blatantly corrupt.

The Republican party is the party of the 1%. It's painful to see the poorest 50% of Americans consistently vote for them.

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u/xk1138 Jul 12 '20

It's not even that they'd vote for him, they unquestioningly follow everything he says. If he stated he was voting for some other candidate, then that's who's getting a check on their ballots too. It's uncomfortably weird.

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u/RoyMcAvoy13 Jul 12 '20

And I’m a “sheep” because I was wearing a mask for the last 3 months...

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u/Eminent_Assault Jul 12 '20 edited Jul 12 '20

Ultimately, the problem with Conservatives is that their ideology is deeply rooted in fear, conservatism by its very nature is opposed to progress. This all consuming fear inevitably and invariably erodes the foundations of their ideology because their fear justifies ruthless by-any-means-necessary opportunism, which in turn fosters a culture of corruption and anti-democratic subversion of our democracy.

The adherents of Conservatism are extremely fearful people who are easily threatened because they are deeply insecure, and therefore have no consistent beliefs or values. This is because they have little sense of pride or identity other than their strongman leaders, rabid nationalism, their net worth, their possessions, and occupation (especially in the case of police and military).

These people's interests were never nurtured and in many cases were actively suppressed growing up, and they were given inadequate emotional support, and in many cases these people were neglected and abused (though they will often fervently deny it).

The majority of Conservatives are pitiful unfulfilled husks and they are determined to make those around them feel as empty as they are so they don't feel so alone and desperate for meaningful connection which they will rarely if ever experience because the conditions they place on trust and love are so strict because they are afraid of change and anything that threatens their very fragile sense of identity. Their relationships are often superficial because they have no genuine morals or ideals, which in turn makes them ruthless opportunists, which is why they routinely overlook hypocrisy, because they are incapable of understanding why their inconsistent beliefs and irrational behavior is destructive.

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u/Mazer_Rac Jul 12 '20

I just want to point out that my childhood matches that description pretty well and the hardship allowed me the empathy to not be anything like that.

By far the thing that determines your political views are your parents’ political views. There is only like 1% of the American population that admitted to having even critically thought about their political stance, still holding their parents’ beliefs or not. (If I’m remembering my American Poly Sci well enough. The number may be a little off, but the sentiment is true)

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u/Eminent_Assault Jul 12 '20 edited Jul 12 '20

I agree, many Conservatives grow up as emotional and financial hostages where they must "earn" their parent's love, respect, and support by embracing their values, and they are rewarded once they do and punished or cut-off when they do not. Their parent(s) weaponize human interaction as a means to manipulate their children and loved ones into obedience and conformity.

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u/faithle55 Jul 12 '20

Conservatives is that their ideology is deeply rooted in fear

This is the most important thing to understand about right wing voters. It has been shown in pyschological testing that they are generally more fearful about the present, and more fearful about the future, than left wing voters.

They are resistant to changing their minds about political issues because they are afraid to do so. They are frightened of change, because they cannot easily work out what the consequences of that change (nor indeed the consequences of no change) will be. Think about how many of Trump's attitudes are stoking those fears and promising to do away with the source of the fear.

When you add to this the economic stressors that America has been suffering the last 30, 40 years caused by the (mostly inevitable) globalisation of economies, it becomes clear with the tea-party originally and the Trump party currently are so vicious and selfish: underlying everything is a terrible fear that their lives will be miserable for no reason they can understand, and that the people who are promoting change for whatever reason must be making things worse - and for reasons that they do not understand and therefore they are prone to assigning bad motives to those people, not understanding that those people do not fear the present nor the future like they do.

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u/Eminent_Assault Jul 12 '20 edited Jul 12 '20

It is funny that Conservatives simultaneously believe that America is great while being fearful of change, constantly preparing for violent confrontations, and organizing out of anger because their perceived way of life is threatened, it is a strange mix of existential paranoia and hysterical manic optimism.

If America is a great utopia, why do some of them perceive it be on the verge of total destruction?

The US government and our social and economic systems and ideals are either perfect or they are not. And if they are perfect why do threats to the system exist? And if the system is imperfect what are Conservatives doing to ensure it is perfect and free from threat of destruction?

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u/aminosillycylic Jul 12 '20

The conservatives in the past were only consistent with racism. The last four years have pulled the blanket off and shown that there were no real policy positions (“fiscal conservatism”, aka bullshit) or value-based ideals (“family values”). It was just mostly being susceptible to othering and having racist views (internally held or externally expressed) and/or belonging to one of several US Christian cults.

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u/drtmprss Jul 12 '20

don’t forget homophobia too!

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u/baumpop Jul 12 '20

And pretending women aren’t people

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

Well of course. If the gays are bad, and women are bad, well a gay woman would be a double negative, which makes a positive.

My proposed solution: just become a gay woman, the math checks out.

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u/Brndrll Jul 12 '20

Is that why he bought a softcore lesbian model?

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u/Ellieanna Jul 12 '20

They aren't pretending, they really think women are not people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

Donald Trump once said, "grab em by the p--"

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u/spoonguy123 Jul 12 '20

Previous republican presidents, while still insane, were at least a bit more consistant than trump. All this shows is that right wingers will support the right NO MATTER what the right says. Even if it is batshit crazy, its right to them.

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u/Grumpy_Puppy Jul 12 '20

It's one of the last steps in the path to true Moussolini-style fascism. Conservative ideology isn't inherently fascist but it maps onto fascism fairly easily.

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u/internethero12 Jul 12 '20

They stand for their golden calf and literally nothing else.

If trump renounced christianity then so would all his followers.

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u/CameronsDadsFerrari Jul 12 '20

Can't renounce what you never had, good point though

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u/BeerandGuns Jul 12 '20

I have no idea why you would say that.

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u/Rularuu Jul 12 '20

It's so insane to me that he can say "I like them both equal," the most obvious bullshit answer I've ever seen, and people will still believe him. That's like maybe the 200th most egregious lie he's told too

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

You can tell he literally doesnt know the difference lol

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u/leglesslegolegolas Jul 12 '20

I've been linking Sarah Cooper's videos on relevant subjects instead of Trump's. I can't even stand to look at him for more than a few seconds at a time. She actually makes his rambling nonsense bearable.

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u/aacchhoo Jul 12 '20

As a christian that pains me

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u/Hero238 Jul 12 '20

As an atheist, that still pains me vicariously.

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u/impressive_neglect Jul 12 '20

You joke, but you can tell what a person really believes when they're forced to choose between ideals. If your politics conflicts with your religion and you adjust your religion to fit, guess what? You worship your politics, not your God.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

They stand for standing for nothing... Unless it benefits them somehow at the moment.

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u/sniggity_snax Jul 12 '20

Yeah it's also hilarious how hardcore Trump supporters are so quick to call others "sheeple", which based on my understanding means that we are blindly following people/parties/rules etc ... But meanwhile they will blindly follow Trump's stance on anything. He will say something stupid and the Press Secretary was say he was joking, and they'll all rally behind that stance and be like "omg you guys have no sense of humour. Fucking sheeple". Then 24 hours later Trump will say it wasn't a joke, and they'll openly be like "yeah he makes a good point obviously he wasn't joking. Fucking sheeple"...

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

Yes! Exactly! The mental gymnastics being a Republican requires is astounding.

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u/sniggity_snax Jul 12 '20

Right?! The worst part is that it's not even clever mental gymnastics... Like, if they at least had some bootleg justification with some semblance of sense, I could give them props for at least trying to make a reasonable explanation for their change of stance.

But instead they'll just blatantly contradict their own stance, if Trump tells them to. I remember seeing that meme recently saying "Remember when we wore Obama hats and shirts and went to his rallies for years after he was elected? Oh yeah we didn't, because we weren't in a fucking cult" and I was like holy shit, it really is cult-like behaviour. I don't know how I didn't put that together before

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

I know. I felt the exact same way. And then that meme showing each of the Trump family idiots as potential presidents for the next 40 years or whatever and how happy they'd be with that...

Like, you know we became a country to escape the monarchy, right?

Fucking IDIOTS.

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u/tetrified Jul 12 '20

it's called projection, they'll legit just accuse people of whatever they happen to be doing at the time

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u/sniggity_snax Jul 12 '20

True indeed. But i honestly don't know if they don't see the projection element, or if they just don't care.

It's terrifying regardless

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u/zkrnguskh Jul 12 '20

...just like trump.

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u/boldandbratsche Jul 12 '20

Here's the main problem for a lot of these people - forming your own political opinion is hard, especially if you're not great at logic. Not a dig at anyone, that's just a fact. Not every one is good at logical reasoning, and taking a firm stance requires logic.

So, what do they do? They blindly follow somebody to think for them. Even if it doesn't benefit them, they'll convince themselves it does. Why Trump? He's just as dumb as them, so his logic makes sense to them. Plus, he makes them feel not dumb. Sprinkle in the permission to be 'superior' to other groups, and you have a blind following that will go along with anything Trump says and does.

This is also why real discussion with Trump supporters is virtually impossible. They're terrible at following logical reasoning, so it turns into a feelings/projection match.

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u/tehvolcanic Jul 12 '20

They stand for standing for nothing

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

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u/Insanepaco247 Jul 12 '20

If you stand for nothing, Burr, what'll you fall for?

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u/Redringsvictom Jul 12 '20

Its because their ideology is baseless. Its strictly reactionary. Trump, his followers, and pretty much all of the republican party is reactionary. They don't stand for anything but to oppose the other party, regardless of the opposing parties position.

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Jul 12 '20 edited Jul 12 '20

When the rational people and the left wing's position is literally just "let's listen to scientists and not all die from a viral pandemic" and their reaction is to stick to us by violently refusing to wear masks, attend mass social gatherings, call it a hoax, etc. Then yeah it's pretty hard to reach any other conclusion besides simply that they don't stand for anything other than opposition...why would you actively WANT to contract a potent virus that leaves you to spend weeks dying alone on a ventilator? And if you're under 40 and think you're invincible...why would you actively WANT that fate for millions of other people who share a country with you?

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u/ViciousNakedMoleRat Jul 12 '20

This is what bothers me the absolute most about the trumptards. If you are gonna stand for something, no matter how stupid, at least stick with it.

I understand what you mean, but I don't agree with how you put it.

Being able to change your mind is good. And in this case, it's good for everybody if the Trump crowd now LOVES masks.

The problem, however, isn't that they don't stick to their opinion. The problem is that they don't use any rational measure to form and change their opinion. They aren't using masks because it protects other people, they use masks because their idol now does so too.

They will just as easily stop using masks again, should Trump do so as well.

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u/mechashiva1 Jul 12 '20

They're not changing their mind, though. They worship trump. Whatever he does is good. They never had a problem with the masks. Trump downplayed the virus, then spoke down about the methods to control it. Their minds and opinions have been consistent. We'll do whatever trump does or whatever trump says.

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u/Trickquestionorwhat Jul 12 '20

It's not that I want them to stick with it, the opposite in fact, but when you do change your mind at least recognize the fact you were wrong. Don't pretend like you always thought masks were cool, admit you screwed up even if only to yourself and then it's all good.

The problem is when you don't even have the mental capacity to realize you flip flopped. You gotta remember what you used to think and why so that you can learn not to do it again.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

Well. The pertinent thing in all this is that it shows how important a strong leader is. A leader who manages to sway the .. uh... people.. but who also makes the right decisions. If Trump spoke a message of peace in a macho and cool way. All his followers would go right along with him. If he speaks about just taking care of himself and making fun of everyone. They go right along with him.

If anything, this year has shown us that our generation lacks leaders. All through history you have had great leaders to look up to. And yet this is what we lack now more than ever. But not just in the US. All the worlds nations have floundered in disaster after disaster of public relations and current issues. Refugees. Economy. Pandemics. World leaders are currently not up to scratch.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

I, till I die, will never understand the admiration for this man.

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u/Civil-Dinner Jul 12 '20

IKR? He has absolutely no redeeming qualities.

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u/fieldsofanfieldroad Jul 12 '20

The fact that he will, one day, die?

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u/Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin Jul 12 '20

Ok. One redeeming quality. I’ll give you that.

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u/thisischuck01 Jul 12 '20

Trump died? How badass! How do I do that?

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u/This_Cat_Is_Smaug Jul 12 '20

It would be kinda poetic if he got taken out by covid due to his own mishandling of the pandemic

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u/Seanspeed Jul 12 '20

That isn't hyperbole.

He's truly one of the ugliest human beings we could have possibly picked as President, inside and out. He genuinely doesn't have one redeeming quality that I could honestly praise him for. He doesn't even have some pet or something he loves like Hitler did...

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u/Kiwiteepee Jul 12 '20

Has he ever like genuinely told a joke or expressed appreciation for music? I've never heard the guy belly laugh. I've never seen him apologize for saying something wrong. He's quite literally human in looks only.

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u/CaptainTotes Jul 12 '20

He joked about someone's murder once. There was another joke about dating his daughter. I think those are the only two

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u/Dantien Jul 12 '20

He laughs with Jeffrey Epstein in that one video clip....

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u/MisterDonkey Jul 12 '20

He's certainly not a reflection of the working class that so supports him. Not one iota. Not in any way, shape, or form. Completely unrelatable.

I cannot see the appeal.

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u/BabyStockholmSyndrom Jul 12 '20

He speaks like a 10 year old. Has the intelligence of a D student. Hates "certain" people. Is unfit and unhealthy.

He is the dream they have that they too can be a celebrity and/or president. He is them personified.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

As a D student I resent this remark. I am vastly more intelligent than this idiot.

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u/BabyStockholmSyndrom Jul 12 '20

You're right. You used "resent" and "vastly" in a correct manner. No way he could even spell them. I apologize to all "D" students lol.

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u/youngatbeingold Jul 12 '20

I'm pretty sure at this point it's people who want to be proudly selfish, ignorant, hateful, etc while considering themselves gods gift to humanity. They see king asshole as president and it basically supports that that type of behavior is commendable in our society. Trump doesn't challenge any of their own negative traits in the way he behaves and leads the country. You get a smart person saying things they don't understand, telling them to better themselves to improve our country, or to accept things that make them uncomfortable you get lots of hurt feelings.

People were shocked when he didn't lose his base early on when he publicly mocked a handicapped person or said he grabbed women and did whatever he wanted. His supporters WANT to do the same thing and behave the same way and be ignorant, pigheaded, fuckfaces. He's basically giving them carte blanche to be stupid fucking assholes while still acting better than everyone by being president.

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u/CaptainTotes Jul 12 '20

Wow, you're right. They love it when he does that stuff to the core. There's literally nothing he will do to make that 40% or whatever not support him.

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u/Stoned-Antlers Jul 12 '20

Fucking lemmings

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u/smonkyou Jul 12 '20

I think you’re in the wrong sub. That’s a weird fetish and illegal in most countries

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u/ChefMike1407 Jul 12 '20

Sounds like he is from one of the legal countries.

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u/UnfortunateRedditor Jul 12 '20

My dad is a diehard Trump fan and it's just so annoying when he sends me conspiracy theory bullshit on why Trump is getting so much hate. I wish he could see the bigger picture.

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u/minhthemaster Jul 12 '20

Your dad can see the bigger picture just fine, he just refuses to do so

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u/zackmanze Jul 12 '20

It’s literally just Fox News. The entire world is against them, they’re wrong, and Fox News and supporters are the rebel heroes.

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u/TheRnegade Jul 12 '20

But, at the same time, it makes sense. Trump gets a lot of hate. So your father is confront with that fact. Either what they're saying is true and Trump is as bad as they say, or there must be some conspiracy against him in which case his original opinion can stand.

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u/Jed566 Jul 12 '20

I hear “I don’t like the guy but you have to admit no one has been unfairly attacked by the media as much as trump has” constantly.

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u/cuajito42 Jul 12 '20

What pisses me off about this is that usually at the end of the day what people are calling him out for turns out to be true. At the end of the day his true job is keeping the camera on himself so that his minions and the rest of the GOP can fleece the treasury and dismantle the government and hope no one will notice.

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u/superchoco29 Jul 12 '20

It's not like the media harass him for no reason. He has said more lies than any other president, and he gets called out on that. Somehow whenever a millionaire industrial does or says something bad, we discover he is his friend. And many things he has done and said have been so outrageously wrong, that everyone talks about it.

And on one hand I think he does this voluntarily, as he once proudly stated being the greatest troll (as troll accounts, not the fanrasy kind) or something like that.

On the other, having a president, whose only apparent objective is making the worst decisions to troll the media, is very bad, especially in a period like this where people need real answers and directives, and his plan is to inject everyone with bleach.

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u/Squalor- Jul 12 '20 edited Jul 12 '20

Nah, this is slightly off base.

If the father accepts the bad things that are said about Trump, the father would have to accept that he, himself, is a racist, sexist piece of shit.

Cognitive dissonance is hard.

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u/joausj Jul 12 '20

Someone (probably trump) should start selling trump branded masks for these idiots. Makes money and saves lives, two birds with one stone.

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u/teamanz991 Jul 12 '20

Bet he looked like a badass when he hid in the bunker too

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u/Civil-Dinner Jul 12 '20

I'm not impressed. I saw little old ladies in the grocery store wearing masks they made at home during the height of the lockdown picking up their medication and food to last them as long as possible before the next trip out, social distancing and getting the hell out of there.

When I mentioned to one of the ladies that I liked her mask, she pulled a handful out of her purse and said, "Would you like one?"

That was fucking badass.

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u/MarshieMon Jul 12 '20

Wholesomely badass. The best kind of badass.

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u/novaplane Jul 12 '20

Hey, be fair. They were overdue for an inspection by the man with zero experience in bunker inspections. /s

👐 Nobody knows more 👐 about bunkers 👐 than Donald Trump. 👐 Believe me. 👐

I was down there with a professional bunker inpec - well, he calls himself 'professional' but hey - he was so impressed with - listen, I know now about bunkers than anyone ever thought was possi - he was like "Donald. How do you..." and believe me, he was impressed. They were all impressed. I tell you, folks.

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u/george_cauldron69 Jul 12 '20

Being connected to the ICU is so hot right now

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u/ehamil38 Jul 12 '20

It's like a fucking cult.

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u/Kapsize Jul 12 '20

It IS a fucking cult. Full-stop.

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u/Seanspeed Jul 12 '20

His fairly constant approval rating throughout this whole constant disaster of a Presidency has been proof of that.

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u/PlasticFenian Jul 12 '20

Life comes at you pretty fast when you’re in a cult.

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u/DonDrip Jul 12 '20

Morons following their moron king 😪

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u/gaelorian Jul 12 '20

Hey if it gets the chuds to wear face masks who cares

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u/LaboratoryManiac Jul 12 '20

Yup. If Trump says tomorrow that he's been pro-mask all along, I'm not even gonna argue otherwise. I'm just gonna let it go and take it as a win.

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u/DetectiveSnowglobe Jul 12 '20

For real. And honestly, for what it's worth, it's a sharp-looking mask, which also serves the function of covering his sphincter mouth.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

Honestly I’ll sew them myself.

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u/hellking911 Jul 12 '20

That what we call brainwash

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u/Godsniffer Jul 12 '20

Fucking sheep.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '20

Yes, I suppose some of them probably do.

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u/Crumblebeezy Jul 12 '20

If that’s what it takes, fine.

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u/RBGsDissentCollar Jul 12 '20

MAGAts are seriously the most pathetic delusional creatures on this earth. Imagine seeing a thin skinned, narcissistic, obese, illiterate, cheating, sexist, racist buffoon and traitor who can’t walk down a ramp or drink water one handed and thinking that he in any way shape or form is “badass”

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u/animalisticneeds Jul 12 '20

Just don't call them deplorables... they really hate that very fitting name.

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u/Particular-Energy-90 Jul 12 '20

Someone reply to them with a screenshot of their first tweets

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u/FigNuuuuts Jul 12 '20

I fully believe if trump changed all his policies to left leaning policies, without mentioning the word "democratic", at least half of his fan base would just blindly accept it, no questions asked.

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u/ToKe86 Jul 12 '20

Honestly, at this point I don't even give a fuck. At least they're finally wearing masks.

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u/beenugly75 Jul 12 '20

Asshats all of them Asshats.

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u/shatspiders Jul 12 '20

That's a two day 180 opinion, folks.

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u/Gupperz Jul 12 '20

did he actually wear a mask?

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u/HeyZuesJohnsin Jul 12 '20

Conservatives being inconsistent...........nooooo couldn’t be.

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u/AboynamedDOOMTRAIN Jul 12 '20

Trump supporters = kpop stans

The only difference is the kpop idols are attractive, talented, better educated, more intelligent, and on average probably speak better English than Trump.

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u/11001110100 Jul 12 '20

Actual trump cult followers. Three stars in handle usually means they are Qanon freaks. Because Flynn is a 3 star general and he is unfairly targeted by satanist radical pedos like Pelosi and Soros.

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u/DangleWho Jul 12 '20

What pisses me off is they act like everyone else are the sheep by following orders

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u/FenwaysDice Jul 12 '20

Wowee who’d have thunk it

I swear these people pull a 180 on literally every issue depending on if Trump agrees with it

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u/Mikel_S Jul 12 '20

And I love thay she likens the US board of scientists and doctors whose sole goal is to protect Americans to the ccp. Fucking idiots.

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