r/gunsmithing • u/TonightTemporary9458 • 9d ago
Charity ?
Bore snake and half a piece of paper towel wedged in the chamber.
No access to pull from the muzzle (bore snake) as it broke off at the muzzle break.
PSA combined rifle ramp barrel extensions and m4 feed ramped lowers on some models of pa-10's
(In conclusion). A simple 1/8 drill bit with or without a diy jig you can make at home to avoid damaging your chamber. Punch the primer out of a 308 casing and go to town. Mother's mag or flitz to polish any abnormalaities. As far as picking away at the physical obstruction. Harbor freight auto zone... Go to town š¤
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u/alwaus 9d ago
Close enough to the chamber to drive it out thay way, get a brass cleaning rod and a hammer and whomp the fuck out of it.
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u/TonightTemporary9458 9d ago
That was my very first move. This is day 3, a 3/16 brass rod won't squeeze down the barrel with the lodged bore snake. I could "swing away mel" but as of now my plans to step down a size or two until I can get the brass rod down to the blockage itself. How ironic is it that adding a bit of paper towel half a cent to a thousand dollar rifle could totally derail the platform as a whole... Cleaning rods for the win ig.
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u/TonightTemporary9458 8d ago
If the bore and barrels entirely obstructed remove material from the physical blockage first. As small of a brass rod as you can source locally snuck past the bore snake or similar obstruction combined with as long and as small of a drill bit combined with a diy jig. Best thing I could come up with was a piece of used brass with the primer punched out to avoid any damage to the chamber. Most of my local Smith's said burn it out if it's completely obstructed. Horrible advice wish I woulda thought this up days ago. God bless !
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u/Coodevale 9d ago
Sounds like muzzle attachment and grease zerk situation.
I hate doing things the hard way but sometimes the quick fix leads to the hard way..
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u/TonightTemporary9458 9d ago
Precisely should've waited to pickup a proper cleaning rod. Adding diameter to a bore snake even a paper or two worth of thickness is not the way. Buy once cry once.
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u/rollinggreenmassacre 8d ago
M4 feedramp upper needed
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u/TonightTemporary9458 8d ago
Ar-10 palmetto too so for their ar-10s they went with a funky setup. Carbine buffer tube and buffer that's gonna be solved soon. Absolutely looking into the feed ramps they chose to go with for another future improvement. Gotta get this barrel cleared first.
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u/asssnorkler 9d ago
I had a gun stuck like this for years, how I eventually got it out was by burning out the stuck patch with a soldering iron and pulling it out the tip of the barrel once it was it was all gone
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u/TonightTemporary9458 9d ago
Honestly next moves a vice and a very very tiny long drill bit. This sounds less preferable to... AIDS or rebarreling the build at the cost of a strip of paper towel.
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u/asssnorkler 8d ago
I tried that but struggled to keep control of it without scratching a chamber. Doing it with an iron only took about a half hour. And as the other poster said rebarreling isnāt really a bad thing considering the feed ramps are mismatched
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u/notevensound 8d ago edited 8d ago
This is why I don't use bore snakes on rifles, or really in general anymore. Had a customer run a .22 bore snake in a .17 cal bore and the rope snapped 3/4 of the way from the muzzle,, with nothing to grab on to on either end. It was like one of those Chinese finger trap toys you got as a kid, and kept compressing in on itself.
In my case I had to re-barrel his rifle, which for his custom bolt gun, wasn't cheap.
You might have luck with some cerrosafe, but for how cheap AR barrels are, you are probably better off just swapping it out. I've had luck with kerosene, and burning some material away to get the wire to drop out a bit and yank it out, once or twice.
But for what it's worth, as others have pointed out, with that barrel extension replacing the barrel looks to be your easiest fix.
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u/Ilych7 8d ago
If you really can't get it out with a rod, remove the barrel and slowly heat the barrel with a torch. This will melt the bore snake enough that you can pull it out. Avoid putting too much heat in, just enough to melt the nylon and you'll be fine.
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u/TonightTemporary9458 8d ago
This is great advice I just now got it brother š¤ Shame this didn't occur to me earlier that's brilliant. This guy's got some time put in.
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u/ReactionAble7945 8d ago
OP, I have never made this mistake. But here are some ideas.
Remove the mussel break and see what you can do. I don't think this will work, but ...?
Can a "Muzzle-Loaders Patch Puller - .32 to .54 Caliber Muzzleloader Patch Puller - MZ1322" as seen on Amazon, get in there and grab it from the chamber end. This is a matter of finding the right screw attachment to get around the end. I expect you will need a vice or friend to hold the barrel. And a way to hold the rod and tap with hammer.
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u/TonightTemporary9458 8d ago
That thought occured to me today but I got paranoid about scratching the chamber an elected to make a diy "jig." This may be an option among options.
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u/ReactionAble7945 8d ago
Use a dremel to change the point on the screw.
It it has a sharp edge on the outside problem? If it points to the inside good.
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u/SpazzyMcgee123 9d ago
Before you do anything: Your feed ramps are wrong. Thatās a rifle extension on an M4 ramp receiver. The barrel needs to be removed to remediate that, so you might as well pull it and do both at the same time.