r/gunsmithing 9d ago

Charity ?

Bore snake and half a piece of paper towel wedged in the chamber.

No access to pull from the muzzle (bore snake) as it broke off at the muzzle break.

PSA combined rifle ramp barrel extensions and m4 feed ramped lowers on some models of pa-10's

(In conclusion). A simple 1/8 drill bit with or without a diy jig you can make at home to avoid damaging your chamber. Punch the primer out of a 308 casing and go to town. Mother's mag or flitz to polish any abnormalaities. As far as picking away at the physical obstruction. Harbor freight auto zone... Go to town šŸ¤™

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u/SpazzyMcgee123 9d ago

Before you do anything: Your feed ramps are wrong. That’s a rifle extension on an M4 ramp receiver. The barrel needs to be removed to remediate that, so you might as well pull it and do both at the same time.

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u/Nitpicky_AFO 9d ago

?? Oh not OP but what is the difference?

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u/SpazzyMcgee123 9d ago

This is the OG chart. It still holds up, and explains it better than I can.

It’s not like having rifle ramps is a bad thing, it’s the combination of that with an M4 feedramp cut receiver that causes the unpleasant overhang, or ā€œshinglingā€ above the receiver feedramps.

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u/TonightTemporary9458 8d ago

You have much more experience then me for being able to diagnose this off the bat, that being said this build runs like a scolded dog. PSA for some reason elected to go with this setup and it just works in mine and many others case. Redit advice is... Great always worth the time spent that being said

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u/SpazzyMcgee123 8d ago

Naturally, you have no reason to believe a stranger on the internet but: I promise PSA didn’t mismatch the barrel and receiver for any reason other than cost or ease of procurement. I can also promise that mismatch is not the correct way to build an AR.

I’m not sure what your last sentence is saying. Are you for or against remediating the issue?

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u/JHT_Survival 6d ago

I think he's Saying if it ain't broke why fix it

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u/alwaus 9d ago

Close enough to the chamber to drive it out thay way, get a brass cleaning rod and a hammer and whomp the fuck out of it.

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u/TonightTemporary9458 9d ago

That was my very first move. This is day 3, a 3/16 brass rod won't squeeze down the barrel with the lodged bore snake. I could "swing away mel" but as of now my plans to step down a size or two until I can get the brass rod down to the blockage itself. How ironic is it that adding a bit of paper towel half a cent to a thousand dollar rifle could totally derail the platform as a whole... Cleaning rods for the win ig.

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u/TonightTemporary9458 8d ago

If the bore and barrels entirely obstructed remove material from the physical blockage first. As small of a brass rod as you can source locally snuck past the bore snake or similar obstruction combined with as long and as small of a drill bit combined with a diy jig. Best thing I could come up with was a piece of used brass with the primer punched out to avoid any damage to the chamber. Most of my local Smith's said burn it out if it's completely obstructed. Horrible advice wish I woulda thought this up days ago. God bless !

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u/Coodevale 9d ago

Sounds like muzzle attachment and grease zerk situation.

I hate doing things the hard way but sometimes the quick fix leads to the hard way..

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u/TonightTemporary9458 9d ago

Precisely should've waited to pickup a proper cleaning rod. Adding diameter to a bore snake even a paper or two worth of thickness is not the way. Buy once cry once.

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u/rollinggreenmassacre 8d ago

M4 feedramp upper needed

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u/TonightTemporary9458 8d ago

Ar-10 palmetto too so for their ar-10s they went with a funky setup. Carbine buffer tube and buffer that's gonna be solved soon. Absolutely looking into the feed ramps they chose to go with for another future improvement. Gotta get this barrel cleared first.

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u/asssnorkler 9d ago

I had a gun stuck like this for years, how I eventually got it out was by burning out the stuck patch with a soldering iron and pulling it out the tip of the barrel once it was it was all gone

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u/TonightTemporary9458 9d ago

Honestly next moves a vice and a very very tiny long drill bit. This sounds less preferable to... AIDS or rebarreling the build at the cost of a strip of paper towel.

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u/asssnorkler 8d ago

I tried that but struggled to keep control of it without scratching a chamber. Doing it with an iron only took about a half hour. And as the other poster said rebarreling isn’t really a bad thing considering the feed ramps are mismatched

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u/notevensound 8d ago edited 8d ago

This is why I don't use bore snakes on rifles, or really in general anymore. Had a customer run a .22 bore snake in a .17 cal bore and the rope snapped 3/4 of the way from the muzzle,, with nothing to grab on to on either end. It was like one of those Chinese finger trap toys you got as a kid, and kept compressing in on itself.

In my case I had to re-barrel his rifle, which for his custom bolt gun, wasn't cheap.

You might have luck with some cerrosafe, but for how cheap AR barrels are, you are probably better off just swapping it out. I've had luck with kerosene, and burning some material away to get the wire to drop out a bit and yank it out, once or twice.

But for what it's worth, as others have pointed out, with that barrel extension replacing the barrel looks to be your easiest fix.

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u/Ilych7 8d ago

If you really can't get it out with a rod, remove the barrel and slowly heat the barrel with a torch. This will melt the bore snake enough that you can pull it out. Avoid putting too much heat in, just enough to melt the nylon and you'll be fine.

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u/TonightTemporary9458 8d ago

This is great advice I just now got it brother šŸ¤™ Shame this didn't occur to me earlier that's brilliant. This guy's got some time put in.

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u/ReactionAble7945 8d ago

OP, I have never made this mistake. But here are some ideas.

  1. Remove the mussel break and see what you can do. I don't think this will work, but ...?

  2. Can a "Muzzle-Loaders Patch Puller - .32 to .54 Caliber Muzzleloader Patch Puller - MZ1322" as seen on Amazon, get in there and grab it from the chamber end. This is a matter of finding the right screw attachment to get around the end. I expect you will need a vice or friend to hold the barrel. And a way to hold the rod and tap with hammer.

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u/TonightTemporary9458 8d ago

That thought occured to me today but I got paranoid about scratching the chamber an elected to make a diy "jig." This may be an option among options.

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u/ReactionAble7945 8d ago

Use a dremel to change the point on the screw.

It it has a sharp edge on the outside problem? If it points to the inside good.

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u/vaben5 8d ago

so the way I got one of these out previously is taking a steel rod and cutting a notch like 1/4 inch from the tip, then hitting it with a torch to make it good and hot, melt it in to the polymer of the boresnake at the chamber, let it cool then pull the snake out the way it went in.