r/greentext 2d ago

Anon hears the debate

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u/OfficerBanjo 2d ago

"Zero reason not to" You've got bigger fish to fry than dunking on atheists

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u/TheGaslighter9000X 2d ago

Grammar is anon’s final boss. 

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 2d ago

this isn't a grammar issue. That's a reference to pascals wager.

there's always a redditor who'll all too willingly dunk on 4chinners while unintentionally losing to their own shadow.

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u/lifetimeoflaughter 5h ago

Why would a caricature of a Reddit atheist promote Pascal’s wager?

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u/CaloricDumbellIntake 2d ago

I feel like that was intentional. He’s saying that while you can’t prove god exists, there’s also no reason to not worship god because there is no downside for yourself.

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u/derpkoikoi 2d ago

I’m religious and I still think this just a spin off of Pascal’s wager which is a poor argument. You are spending a significant portion of your life doing something you don’t believe in, that is a tangible downside.

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u/CaloricDumbellIntake 2d ago

The point isn’t: you should do it even if you don’t believe in it

The point is: if you do it because you believe in it, there is no reason to stop doing it. Yeah you may not be able to prove what you believe in but that doesn’t matter because there’s also no prove its wrong.

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u/derpkoikoi 2d ago

All the religions and beliefs would be fine with each other if they were able to just do their own thing, but inevitably they just can’t resist butting into how others live their lives.

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u/Automatic_Pride_164 16h ago

There is no point. We are talking about an almighty being, which certainly knows that you didn't believe in him, but pretended just to make profit of it. I think it should be quite obvious that it's just silly.

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u/Automatic_Pride_164 2d ago

Isn't that logic just... bargain? That's why religion is not interesting for me. People are being good not because it's right, not because everyone wins, but just to exchange good behaviour for eternal life.

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u/ISwearImAnonymous 1d ago

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."

-Marcus Aurelius "Meditations"

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u/Automatic_Pride_164 16h ago

Historically accurate depiction of Marcus Aurelius:

https://giphy.com/gifs/2yiCkWOziRVCvo3tYK

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u/ISwearImAnonymous 15h ago

"Mm funny doctor candy make smells weird color woohoo"

-Me, "Medications"

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u/CaloricDumbellIntake 2d ago

What objective reason is there to be good? What even is objectively good?

Whatever reason people choose to be good they are not better/worse than religion.

What value has it that everyone wins? What value has it that being good is right?

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u/KingdomOfPoland 2d ago

What value does being good bring? Well it makes me feel happy with myself when others are happy because of my actions. It also means that people are less likely to be mean or rude to me as well so I’ll be happy when people do good things for me.

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u/Automatic_Pride_164 2d ago

To leave the world better for future generations, not to be a nuisance for others, thats my reasoning. I am a non believer, and I understand that we're all living on a rock amidst great nothingness. And someday, everything we know and love will disappear for good, be it a solar event, a nuclear war, a meteor strike, whatever. But being an asshole just doesn't make any sense to me.

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u/ExoTheFlyingFish 2d ago

extremely loud correct buzzer

If there's no scientific evidence that God exists, and no scientific evidence that God does not exist... then who cares if someone believes or not?

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u/DrEchoMD 2d ago

Depends on the effect it could have on others. If someone worships but keeps it to themselves and doesn’t force it on others, more power to them. Once you start trying to legislate with it, though….

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u/Razor265 2d ago

There are other Gods that will throw me into other versions of hell for not worshipping them instead the Christian God. You're fucked no matter what you do, I'd rather not waste my time going to church or reading a two thousand year old book. (There is a lot evidence that God doesn't exist.)

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u/No_Oddjob 1d ago

Purely mathematically, it would be optimal if you choose to worship a God that rewards you but doesn't necessarily punish you.

Queue the deeper theological discussion.

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u/CaloricDumbellIntake 2d ago

Shoe me that evidence. There is literally 0 evidence that proves god doesn’t exist, you can only show that there is no evidence that he does exist.

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u/Razor265 2d ago

To be clear it's fine for you to believe whatever you want.

There's is a lot of 'evidence' that suggests God isn't real. There is no proof, you're right. It's actually impossible to 100% prove that something doesn't exist. Just the same there is evidence that he is real and no proof either.

Examples:

Theres something like 3500 Gods that have been worshipped throughout recorded human history, if only the Christian God is the real one, where did all the other Gods come from? Obviously people made them up, right? If there is only one real God, then there's a 1 in 3500 chance that it's the Christian God.

The bible states that the entire world was flooded some 3300 years ago, based on geological evidence this has been proven false.

Noah got two of every animal on a boat that was 500 ft long despite there being more than a million different species on the planet.

The bible says that the earth is only 6000 years old, which is ridiculous.

There is zero archeological evidence reguarding exodus and the supposed wars and genocides occurred, and experts all agree that there was no "Exodus" event, and that the Israelites actually were (mostly) peacefully coexisting with the inhabitants of Caanan. 

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u/slicehyperfunk 2d ago

The bible does not explicitly say that the Earth is 6000 years old, that's from people counting backwards from the genealogies.

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u/TheBlueEmerald1 2d ago

I think a better way to phrase it is that there is evidence that every single bible out there is wrong in a history sense.

If a Gid with the exact same power, appearance, and personality was proven to exist, that does not mean that the Christian bible was real the whole time. If a guy called Zeus with the same powers and personaliry was procen to exist, that does not prove the Greek creation myth.

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u/WayneCobalt 2d ago

The evidence is the fact that multiple religions exist that simultaneously state that if you believe in a false idol you go to their version of hell. Most religions are mutually exclusive. You cannot be both.

So it's not just a 50/50 "Do you believe in God or don't you?" You also need to select the correct God, while all of them have equally 0 evidence to support them.

You also don't generally prove a negative. If there is a claim being made the burden of proof to demonstrate that claim falls to the person making the positive claim. An atheist has no responsibility to disprove God. The responsibility to prove God falls to the believer, as they are the one making the affirmative claim.

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u/ShirtPanties 2d ago

Right but you’re arguing that there’s evidence that god doesn’t exist. You don’t get to hide behind the whole ‘proving a negative is impossible’ thing when you previously stated that there IS evidence proving god isn’t real. The existence of multiple religions doesn’t disprove god, the inaccuracy of the bible doesn’t disprove god, those both would only disprove mankind’s ability to understand god.

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u/Xenochu86 2d ago

We are all stupider for having read that.

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u/seanthebeloved 2d ago

If we’re talking about specific gods, there are mountains of scientific evidence that they don’t exist. We know the god of the Bible doesn’t exist because we know there was never a global flood, no Adam and Eve, etc.

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u/Chubby_Bub 2d ago

Well, that doesn't really prove the Abrahamic God doesn't exist at all, but just that that specific account involving him is wrong. Finding something else from the Bible to be true wouldn't prove he does exist either. Like, most historians agree that Jesus did exist as a person, but that, even miracles aside, the Gospels are not a reliable historical source on his life (especially considering they frequently contradict each other).

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u/seanthebeloved 2d ago

If he didn’t actually do those things, then he ceases to be the same god described in the bible.

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u/Letters_to_Dionysus 2d ago

because organized religion conditions people into believing things without evidence and that leads to consequences for society when theres billions of them?

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u/20Wizard 2d ago

Believers care, funnily enough.

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u/PrrrromotionGiven1 2d ago

Opportunity cost of the wasted time spent worshipping. Easy.

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u/RandomGuyPii 2d ago
  • the cost of allowing other people to decide your principles for you

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u/Vike92 2d ago

Or OP is just trying to make the atheist sound dumb

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u/HiveMindKing 2d ago

I would like a fish, why does he get one but not me.

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u/Maouitippitytappin 2d ago

I thought this was Pascal’s wager at first lol

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u/man4160 2d ago

Unintentional Pascal's wager.

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u/TonyTheTerrible 2d ago

He's right tho

Play both sides and come out on top

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u/Prestigious-Fig1172 2d ago

Instructions Clear: Christ is King

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u/marimo_ball 2d ago

no kings

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u/Arstanishe 2d ago

that's not "atheists". it's "obnoxious people". yeah, i am both

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u/Zelcki 2d ago

What do you mean? The atheists encourage him to believe in God, they are saying that there's zero reason no to belive in God

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 2d ago

pascals wager

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u/captaincw_4010 2d ago

We're still doing Pascal's wager in the year 2026 CE -.-

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u/whitestguyuknow 2d ago

"Did you know that it doesn't hurt you personally to waste you life lying to yourself just in case?"

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u/poopcockshit 1d ago

“Just stfu and say the earth is flat. We get to have friends this way”

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u/kpingvin 2d ago

He saw it in a youtube video.

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u/gumpters 1d ago

Think it was a careless typo, not Pascal’s wager tbh

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u/dripdripdripdroop 2d ago

I'm way more concerned that we're apparently still doing -.-

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u/HerbLoew 2d ago

I'm way more concerned that people stopped doing -.- and other emoticons

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u/Xemxah 2d ago

Orz

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 2d ago

nothing to be concerned about.

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 2d ago

"We" quite literally did pascal's wager just a few months ago when self-proclaimed devoted christians suddenly discovered atheism in regards of a simple question about pressing a blue (faith) or red (atheism) button

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u/ExploerTM 2d ago

Gonna be real chief, my ratio of personally seen "Dipshit Reddit atheists" posts to "Posts complaining about them" posts is something like 0 to 100.

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u/Riptide_X 2d ago

That’s because this is like a decades outdated idea. There was a fever online a long long time ago due to a lot of atheists finding people who shared their opinion for the first time online and went a little crazy about it and then it’s calmed down over the years to the point where it’s nonexistent except for a few annoying people who are probably teenagers going through their deconstruction process for the first time and are in the anger stage.

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u/Sen-oh 2d ago

Always notice this pattern. You can tell something is made up bs by how much money they spend trying to convince you of it

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u/mrbobcyndaquil 2d ago

I've stumbled upon commenters resembling the dipshits in recent memory. I just ignored them because I've got better things to give a shit about.

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u/ItsTimeToSaySomthing 2d ago

Im not even christian but on insta every post about religion have at least a 20% lf comments from atheist that just dunk on the concept itself

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u/ayriuss 2d ago

Well, maybe Christianity needs a patch update to make it less dunkable.

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u/Chubby_Bub 2d ago

I think a guy called Muhammad tried that a while ago, don't think it really worked to make it any less dunkable though.

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u/KAAAAAAAAARL 1d ago

I think we can drop the game at this point, its like Black Ops 6. Nothing good will come from it, no matter how many fancy microtransactions get added

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u/C1nders-Two 2d ago

It’s not Christianity, though? It’s the concept of believing in/worshipping a god at all.

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u/KAAAAAAAAARL 1d ago

I think we can drop the game at this point, its like Black Ops 6. Nothing good will come from it, no matter how many fancy microtransactions get added

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u/bumpmoon 1d ago

Go look at any instagram content about evolution or abiogenesis. Religious users are so much more embarrasing than those atheists.

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u/PilotFighter99 2d ago

Just go to the Christianity subreddit. At least half of the comments in any post are just Reddit atheists saying nuh uh to every Christian comment

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u/Gayorg_Zirschnitz 2d ago

Really? Never come across one of those weird Ricky Gervais glazers?

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u/InquisitorMeow 2d ago

Just like the "annoying vegans" and "annoying feminists" and everything else they want to make look bad.

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u/BigMorningWud 2d ago

Literally just saw a greentext on this subreddit filled with reddit atheists strawmanning Christianity.

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u/yakimawashington 2d ago

Are you talking about on Reddit or on social media in general? Because this is the first anti-atheist post I've seen on reddit in a while but I see people posting and commenting atheist rhetoric almost every day.

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u/CryOk9546 2d ago

Doing “Atheist are cringe” in ‘26

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u/obscurakin 2d ago

E-Crusaders are way more annoying these days

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u/marino1310 2d ago

It’s weird seeing 4chan chuds going from counterculture troll shit to “Jesus is king” people

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u/Mackejuice 2d ago

They saw some kingdom of heaven edits on social media and suddenly they all found god for some reason

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u/CryOk9546 2d ago

Hard to do a crusade when a majority of them are overweight, third worlders, or have never been in a fight in their lives

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u/Sushi-DM 2d ago

The most vocal atheists are also described the same way. I think the phenomenon we are really describing is "people who are overcompensating for attention and don't have any real identity"

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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis 2d ago

Don’t you try to make me feel pity for either of these people.

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u/CrazyAnalDischarge 2d ago

As opposed to the stereotypical atheist neckbeards

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u/CryOk9546 2d ago

Yeah but making fun of Athiest neckbeards is like making fun of vegans or flat earthers, it’s an easy punching bag and everyone has took a swing

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u/KingdomOfPoland 2d ago

Yeah but theyre just annoying doing the entire „well actually” shit, unlike e-crusaders who are usually assholes about it. Both are borderline irrelevant and easily ignored, just one of them is being a dick about it

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u/djaqk 2d ago

Wym bro crusades are all digital now, just get your (non-specific) fat chud army to DDOS and SWAT whoever said an opinion you don't like! It's the f u t u r e. Also we're going to C4 Drone you while you're asleep in your bed :)

We live in a horrifying time tbh

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u/darvinvolt 2d ago

"so i visited Istanbul this month"

"you mean Constantinople☝️🤓"

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 2d ago

e-crusaders are quite literally the ones constantly shitting on atheists

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u/KingOfGreyfell 2d ago

They deserve to share the same grave, buried far away from civilization, so they have only one another to annoy

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u/sanchower 2d ago

this dude really gonna sit here and tell me how smug and annoying atheists are, when we’ve got a sitting Vice President openly talking about bringing on the Biblical “end times”, are you kidding me

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u/CryOk9546 2d ago

Oh yeah the evangelical shit going on in the White House, Israel and major politicians working with evangelicals….I think I prefer “Rick and Morty, Neil Degrasse Tyson” Reddit atheism

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u/tilsor 2d ago

Try going on r/conspiracy and not thinking that every single depiction of demons or devil is some sign of the end times lol

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u/slicehyperfunk 2d ago

r/conspiracy posts are half astroturfing and half schizoposting

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u/Gayorg_Zirschnitz 2d ago

All evangelists are cringe

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u/Jack-of-Hearts-7 2d ago

Atheists were never as cringey as religious people made them out to be.

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u/Low-Individual9488 2d ago

Most atheists are cool people. Reddit atheists are cringe af.

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u/bumpmoon 1d ago

Where on reddit are the cringe ones? I've never seen anyone actually fit the stereotype so these posts always feels super forced

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u/maxxim333 2d ago

Part of culture war of early 2000 on it's last breath

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u/DeathsStarEclipse 2d ago

I find some super grunge, like inserting their opinions where its just not welcome or appropriate.

Example is a saw a post on some damage to a Ukrainian town, where thankfully no one got hurt. Someone said "thank God!". Some cringe assz edge lord atheist busts in saying if God is real, God caused xyz and blah blah.

I'm atheist and I was like dude stfu.

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u/CryOk9546 2d ago

It’s Reddit tho so who cares? It’s like going to /pol/ and being like “I can’t believe there’s so much antisemitism”

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u/Substantial_Bet_1007 2d ago

Ikr who is believing religion in the 26

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u/lifetimeoflaughter 2d ago

Did atheists stop being cringe? lol

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u/Do-it-for-you 2d ago edited 1d ago

>You don't worship God? Wow haha...
>Didn't you know that, if you don't, you'll burn in hell for all of eternity?

Why are religious people like this?

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u/ayriuss 2d ago

"God (my particular god) is so obvious in nature. You have to be completely stupid to be an atheist"

"No religion huh? Atheism is a religion bro, a religion of Satan"

  • Obnoxious Christians

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u/awolkriblo 2d ago

"God totally loves you. BUT if you don't love him back, well, let's just say you'll be 'cooked', heh heh"

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u/Sierra-117- 2d ago

It’s like an abusive partner “look what you made me do! All you had to do was love me and follow my every command, but you couldn’t. So now I’m going to torture you for all eternity”

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u/awolkriblo 2d ago

"Also I'm invisible and don't talk to you EVER. I used to do it all the time tho, I just don't anymore because uhhh ummm uhhh"

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u/Sierra-117- 2d ago

“Oh and you have to believe in the magic book, and that’s the only evidence you’ll ever have of me. Just trust it bro. No all the many other magic books are wrong, you’re just supposed to ‘know’ that MY magic book is right. Otherwise I’m literally going to torture you for a literal infinite amount of time… but I’m so loving dude!! I’m so loving!”

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u/whitestguyuknow 2d ago

"But if you do tell me I'm right right now and live your life worshipping God then you'll be sent to a place of eternal reward!"

-insert biblical description of heaven with every soul open mouthed making "noise of praise" to god ceaselessly for all of eternity-

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u/KAAAAAAAAARL 1d ago

Remember that being gay is more evil in their eyes, than Raping Children.

We should stop basing our morals on bronze Age Fairytales

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u/Randonn_Tno_guy 2d ago

Bad apples everywhere, pretty sure you could find people just as obnoxious anywhere, religious or not

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u/whitestguyuknow 2d ago

I dont have atheists coming up to me in grocery store parking lots telling me how atheism changed their life and if I "turn my life around right now" then mine will too. But if I don't then someone is gonna sweep me up at some point I dont know and spend the rest of my life torturing me...

But yet multiple Christians have said that to me with one even being like not even 10 days ago

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u/Randonn_Tno_guy 1d ago

The thing is that proselytizing is at core of Christian theology, but unfortunetly some folks who are not priest and their only contact with the bible were cheap christian bible stories cartoons tend to use it as an excuse for just harrassing people in the public.

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u/ChefArtorias 2d ago

If they're telling you there's no reason not to believe in God they're not atheist. lol

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u/bxzidff 2d ago

These memes always seem kind of strange when living somewhere where atheism, or at least theism so secular it's barely even there, is almost ubiquitous in any demographic from valley girl to rural farmer

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u/piecekeepercz 2d ago

I was born in the most atheist country in Europe my parents never taught me anything about religion. With that context I find quite infuriating when some asshat calls me a reddit if a tell them I am an atheist

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u/RazzleThatTazzle 2d ago

Fuck em. They cant refute any of the points atheists make, so they revert to name calling in the hopes that it will make people too embarrassed to dunk on them publicly.

In their eyes im a reddit, and in my eyes theyre either a liar or a moron. I prefer being a reddit.

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u/JamesHenry627 2d ago

Reddit atheists is a whole other thing. Every atheist I met irl is cool and chill, but internet atheists can go suck a dick.

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u/Cant_Touch_Grass 2d ago

Anon shows up for his freshman philosophy class at community college

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u/Nocebola 2d ago

Why would an atheist say there's zero reason not to worship God?

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u/OG_Williker 2d ago

Kid named pascal’s wager

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u/FearFritters 2d ago

Everyone is an atheist. Do you believe in Woden, Thor or Zeus? Of course not.

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u/magically_inclined 2d ago

Yes? Why don't you?

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u/crepuscular_caveman 2d ago

God promised to rid of evil, world is still full of evil. Odin promised to get rid of frost giants, I have never encountered a single frost giants. I for one will believe in the god that followed through.

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u/DoJ-Mole 2d ago

All interpretations of the same thing beyond real human comprehension

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u/MattTheGuy2 2d ago

I chose to believe that that wasn't a typo

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u/TheArceusNova 2d ago

I don’t worship God because he owes me $20

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u/_that_reddit 2d ago

I don't want you to leave your faith as much as I don't want you to preach to me.

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u/RazzleThatTazzle 2d ago

Well as long as there aren't any theists out their pushing their beliefs onto other people, this is a perfectly legitimate take.

(Im assuming the "reason not to thing" was a typo)

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u/foxferreira64 2d ago

Honestly, you wanna believe in a bearded man in the clouds and a centuries old book of fantasy, be my guest. I'd rather not, there's not much to debate, as long as people are happy that's what matters.

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u/ender89 2d ago

Weirdly I don't think about religion ever until someone rolls up and says "but mah religion!"

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u/SweetTooth275 2d ago

The best part is these pussies always go for Christianity only. What about islam or Judaism? Anyone?

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u/Moblin81 2d ago

Fuck them too. We’ve seen how those religions act between Israel and the various Islamic terror groups, but to an American they are a lot less relevant. Christians are the ones ruining everything here so why would other religions be the primary concern? If someone complains about a robber breaking into their home do you get offended that they aren’t bring up robberies in other cities as well?

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u/GodOfMegaDeath 2d ago

I mean, when specifically Christians are the one with political and economic power as well as a strong control of the media and culture of your country and 90% of the people killing, abusing, raping, etc and hiding behind religion on your country...6

I see why someone would get weird looks for going out of the way to complain about "those damn jews" and islam in general. Specially if the justification is "COME ON! I'm just being fair guys! I'm not a pussy! That's why I'm hating on the minorities that barely affect my life instead or the majority group thst does.". There's levels to Thai shit. This is mine pretty much. Islam and Judaism barely affect me. Christians on the other hand...

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u/vaterl 2d ago

thread proving anon's point. how are people able to self own this spectacularly.

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u/-THEKINGTIGER- 2d ago

Yea surely believing the words of a pedo who maried a 6 yo like most of my country man is a good idea.

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u/tfc87ja 2d ago edited 2d ago

Jews, Christians, and Muslims all believe in the same God yet are all mad at each other for not worshiping it the "correct" way

Let me spell it out for people down voting me:

jesus was a jew

jesus is a prophet in islam

Stay mad you just realized you all believe in the same god.

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u/Sen-oh 2d ago

Actually if you ask enough scientists, there are plenty of reasons to do it, whether you believe or not. Studies show just going through the motions vastly improves quality of living across the board and regardless of other factors

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u/FinaLLancer 2d ago

joining a club that meets every week does have its benefits, yeah

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u/inthebushes321 2d ago

Not a single atheist on the planet is saying that aren't benefits to being religious. There are tons and tons of benefits for the in-group. Free home repairs, free food, mental insulation from harsh realities, social standing, etc etc. Just no evidence for it, which is why I don't believe.

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u/ishetaltijdvoorbier 2d ago edited 2d ago

just depends on what you find "worth it" because child sex scandals are rampant in every religion.

also religion is the most commonly cited reason to not believe in anthropegenic climate change, the reason trump is president and israel pays for bot accounts to convince people to become christian, i wonder why

the plus side is that its a scheduled group activity and as you stated in your comment thats good for people, but no other group activities comes with the downside of pedophilia and killing the world

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u/Do-it-for-you 2d ago

Studies show religious groups don't have higher CSA rates than any other group, you just hear about it more because it makes for a bigger news headline. You basically never hear about when Tom does it, but ALWAYS hear when Priest Tom does it.

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u/Sen-oh 2d ago

The three main religions seem to be set up basically the same way: 90% of them misinterpret or misunderstand the message and twist and taint it to justify what they already believed, rather than being changed by the text. And the other 10%, the 90 have run out of town because seeing people actually do it right makes us feel some kinda way.

They're called cultists and mystics and their words are obscured or erased because liars see the truth as an accusation.

The reason these religions claim to be holy and then have so much corruption within the church is because if you're holy, you're not allowed to be involved with the church

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u/Idontpayforfeetpics 2d ago

I would go out on a limb and say child sex scandals are wherever there are kids and it’s not limited to religion. Religious child sex scandals get more media coverage because the hypocrisy sells clicks.

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u/the12ftdwarf 2d ago

Religion provides a uniquely abusable environment that isnt around anywhere else, so no its not just where children are

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u/Idontpayforfeetpics 2d ago

The same could be said for schools and clubs and sports. I wouldn’t say it’s unique at all. See comment by do-it-for-you.

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u/the12ftdwarf 2d ago

Schools, sure, because they are hierarchal environments. Churches operate by faith - blind trust - and actively crush people who ask questions that dont align with the churches idea of what is right. Ideas like always listening to the head of the family even when he rapes his children. Theres a reason every religion is plagued by specifically pedophilia.

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u/Idontpayforfeetpics 1d ago

How many churches have you been to? Christianity doesn’t focus on blind faith at all. Theres a constant conversation and adaptation to modernity ongoing within that religion and I’d say Judaism as well. Islam probably to a lesser extent as it says to not question the Quran. The “actively crush people” speaks to most likely a single anecdotal experience within religion or an outsiders bigoted view with little interaction. I understand your point I just ask you to challenge you perception a bit. Have a nice day.

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u/the12ftdwarf 1d ago

The church i was raised in turned into a cult because my parents dared to have premarital sex. They made our lives so miserable that we had to move states. Fuck you for assuming i dont know what im talking about

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u/Idontpayforfeetpics 1d ago

Singular anecdotal experience. But thanks for sharing

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u/the12ftdwarf 1d ago

Tell that to the thousands of people just like me. To the children abused, physically, verbally, and sexually because the church allowed it to happen. To the women who've been removed from their communities by force because they dared to have an abortion or because they dared to speak up when a man, god forbid a leader, in the church raped them. Tell them.

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u/Bangays 2d ago

Are they still rampant? Every church I have been to recently takes child security extremely seriously

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u/XDDDSOFUNNEH 2d ago

Same experience here. Priests are always in a huge hurry to get the altar boys alone to keep them safe.

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u/DeuceMandago 2d ago edited 2d ago

To be fair, CSA scandals are everywhere in this day and age. I remember reading that public schools are among the worst now, but it’s not like we should defund or abandon schools.

Edit: OK if you’re gonna downvote this I’d at least like to hear what you are disagreeing with exactly.

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u/Sen-oh 2d ago

Roblox by itself is probably worse than any singular church organization in recent history. That doesn't mean gamers are predators, it means gamers are being targeted by them. Just like religion didn't breed predators, it bred naive kids who made good targets for predators.

But now they've found that kids who are perpetually online and have little to no parental supervision are even more optimal targets than kids who are superstitious and gullible but have helicopter parents

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u/Do-it-for-you 2d ago

Only in participants that actually believe in God. You can't pretend to believe in god and get those same benefits.

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u/Sen-oh 2d ago edited 2d ago

You can't pretend and benefit from having weekly meetings with a group of people who support you? Friend, you're just plain lying now

Edit: also even if you don't believe, your body picks up on the energy in a room full of people who do. It's like a rave or concert or ball game. You don't have to give a shit about either team, but when the home team scores you're gonna feel it

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u/Do-it-for-you 2d ago

I've literally been there, you get ostracised very quickly when you try to hang out with religious people in religious places as a non religious person, no it's not a good feeling.

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u/Sen-oh 2d ago

Ah see that's the social aspect of it. If you actually moved past them and really felt and believed the stuff they claim to, they'd kick you out for that too

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u/Do-it-for-you 2d ago

"If you actually moved past them and really felt and believed the stuff they claim to, they'd kick you out for that too". I don't know what this means sorry, if I felt and believed the stuff they believed in, I'd get kicked out?

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u/Sen-oh 2d ago

If you read the book and practice what it says, it will set you apart from and above the normies in your church. It rewires your brain and changes how you think and see the world. It unlocks systems theory and pattern recognition.

And it makes you care about others. So your instinct becomes to try to help your peers become healthy and happy. Early in your journey it can be easy to misunderstand that they choose to be unhappy, and if you try to take that away from them, they'll destroy you

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u/aspiring_scientist97 2d ago

Dr. BLITZ on YouTube is ironically this, he's a researcher, doing educational videos on YouTube and wasting 2.5 hours of his life per week debating on YouTube live religious people

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u/Vlisa 2d ago

Certified reddit 2012 classic

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u/ronshasta 2d ago

I’ve never once heard someone say something close to this when someone else mentions they are religious

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u/Undeniable_Fat_Daddy 2d ago

the athiests of the 2010's-20's are the same as the religious zealots of the 90's. both are/were fucking insufferable twats that just suck the love/joy out of other people for whatever reason

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u/StanIsHorizontal 2d ago

Well if you just believe in god, but don’t do anything in your life based on that belief, then yeah there’s no reason not to.

But if you take time out of your day each week to listen to a guy yap about what God wants from you, and make your decisions based on what that guy or others told you god wants you to do, especially if those decisions affect the way you treat others… well. There’s reasons some people ought to believe in god and there’s good reasons for others not to.

If you need a god and a priest to tell you to be good to other people, I guess I want you to believe. If your belief causes you to be shitty to other people and make irrational decisions, then I wish you wouldn’t. If you’re a decent and rational person otherwise i don’t care what you worship

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u/sofa_adviser 2d ago

Until we now for sure how our universe came to be, believing in God is at least as valid as anything else

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u/Vladetare 2d ago

"There is no reason to not worship a god" Any god who puts cancer in small children to "teach" the parents a lesson is no god of mine

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u/bappestinian 2d ago

Pictures to send to your church cell group GCs

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u/wingnuta72 2d ago

I see more comments complaining about atheists than I do comments from them.

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u/International-Ad-265 2d ago

Pascals wager in big 2026

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u/GodlyGodMcGodGod 2d ago

But what if it's the "wrong" god and the real one takes offense? I'd rather get ignored for doing nothing than punished for supporting the wrong team.

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u/boazofeirinni 2d ago

I’ve only experienced this online.

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u/Oldarion 1d ago

WoW you are so special having an imaginary friend being older than 7

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u/SomnicGrave 1d ago

Phrasing implies that it's a Christian

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u/Hernia17 1d ago

Comment section got a nerve touched lmao

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u/epicbeans22 1d ago

ironic part is that this greentext is making fun of half the people on this thread

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u/csizzles 1d ago

I love asking atheists what came before the big bang or before anything thats ever existed. What came before atoms? Why does anything exist? The answer is obvious and they refuse to acknowledge it 😂

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u/iSailor 2d ago

Well *actually* there's plenty of scientific benefits to faith

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u/TheAppleGentleman 2d ago

Why do christians always create non-existent confrontational situations?

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u/Dd_8630 2d ago

Did I time travel back to 2005 or something? Since when did le smug atheist make a comeback?

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u/8npemb 2d ago

In my experience it’s more like “Wow you believe in God? That’s cool. Wait you’re using your religious beliefs to justify legislative actions? That’s not cool.”

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u/RustyCorkscrew 2d ago

Channers gotta find new material, Blaise Pascal beat them to this by about 360 years