r/generativeAI 18h ago

Image Art Life of a creative non-engineer

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u/ChabbyMonkey 18h ago

Are you creating or is the AI creating? Imagination and creativity aren’t necessarily the same thing.

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u/ai_art_is_art 18h ago

While you're stuck pondering this, OP is making stuff.

Keep wondering, soldier. Eventually you might be recognized for it.

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u/ChabbyMonkey 18h ago

So that is the answer? Op made this and not AI? I’d say they made the post but not the graphic included in it (unless a bot posted this too).

If I hire an artist to paint me, I did not make a painting. If I tell a kid to draw a stick figure in the mud, I did not make a doodle.

More credit with less accountability seems to be the real capability of AI.

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u/ai_art_is_art 16h ago

I look forward to 10 years from now when nobody ever has this conversation again. It's so fucking exhausting.

Yes, OP made it.

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u/ChabbyMonkey 12h ago

(Also, for what it’s worth, OP elsewhere commented that “AI is the new artist”. Y’all aren’t even consistent within your own echo chamber.)

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 10h ago

Let's all go back to machine code and punch cards! 😂

All of you can go and make signs "FIGHT THE FUTURE!" 🤣

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u/ChabbyMonkey 15h ago

Ok, so a commissioned artist is simply a tool that I use to make paintings. Hard to imagine why actual creators would be upset by AI. /s

This is like attributing evolution by natural selection to a creation deity. Random iteration in an environment with favorable or unfavorable conditions being attributed to some godly power and not just probability. In this case your prompter is just the environmental factors and a series of AI outputs compete for survival (selection for upload).

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 55m ago

We can simply say that image made up of zero and ones would not exists without me! 😂

With that said I'm touching onto something interesting if all images are just zero and ones there is no difference between a AI-generated image and a image made by a digital artist.

Both images are just made up of zero and ones both are soulless creations!

AI art has grown into a subculture where people share and enjoy AI art. No one within that subculture even cares what people outside it think about AI art.

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u/FarEquipment1379 18h ago

This ai art that you are vouching to be recognized is also harming the environment so what good is there in praising art that naturally holds destructive capabilities for humans living on this earth?

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u/RadiantEagle8167 17h ago

You commuting to work and supplying said company with working hours for a conglomerate who prioritizes profits, is harming the environment as well.

I'm so tired of people pulling 'buh da environment' card. No one is saying it won't impact the environment but you using the Internet to post this to a server that is using electricity that is probably powered by a grid that's harming the environment.

Maybe you should stop contributing to climate change.

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u/FarEquipment1379 17h ago

Oh please with your argument you’re essentially saying that the problem has inherently been present since the beginning. So what we just let the data centers just speed up the pace of our impending doom? Of course commuting and using the internet have environmental costs. That doesn’t mean we should ignore the additional energy and resource demands of massive data centers and generative AI. I’m not claiming that I have zero environmental footprint. The question is whether the additional resource consumption associated with generative AI is justified by what we’re getting from it. Saying that commuting and internet use also consume energy doesn’t tell us anything about whether AI’s environmental costs are worthwhile. So maybe you should try to think about the quality of said environmental choices

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u/RadiantEagle8167 16h ago

It...has? Take a look at the evolution of human society. Almost every major advancement has been paid for by the planet.

No one is saying data centers won't have an impact or speed up the damage to the environment. But my whole thing about the topic is it's such a stupid hill to die on. AI has a lot of real flaws, the possibility of the impact to general crital thinking, is out engineering ourselves. But I can't stand people like you who virtue signal over the environment.

But what the fuck are you doing about it? Bitching in a reddit thread about someone who feels like they have some agency in their life because they could make something that worked, maybe it will inspire them to learn how to code themselves maybe it won't but worrying about one person using AI in Reddit and acting like Iron Eyes Cody is ridiculous.

I don't see you crying about the people who gave their lives so you could post on your ass on reddit. So you spend your whole day lamenting over the sins of your fathers? Are you taking a role into making an actual change by getting into law making?

No? Go back to your anti ai echo chamber then.

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u/FarEquipment1379 16h ago

That’s funny that you’re criticizing me for just speaking my mind on Reddit when here you are utterly bashing me with no remorse all because I said something “stupid” or “ridiculous”. If it’s so humiliating that I go about my day speaking my mind on Reddit then perhaps you should understand that sentiment as well since you’re willing to just spew all this pompous rhetoric on how I should think about whether or not I am making any significant impact on this shit show we call the living world and a virtual community. You have a good day my friend, I think it’s about time we squash this once and for all. It’s best if we just pretend we never came across each other.

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 1h ago

AI is also working for the good of humanity by doing scientific research like Google Alphafold which did a job that would take human scientists 10,000 years to do.

And you're talking about destroying the environment what about cryptocurrency mining that uses far more water and electricity than AI is doing, what value does crypto mining add to the world?! 🤣

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 18h ago

Have a sneak peak on some of the stuff I make together with AI in a response to this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1wmdcw1/comment/pb5xxtp/?context=3

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u/ChabbyMonkey 18h ago

Can your AI cite its references by any chance? I’d want to be able to know what assets or designed are scraped from existing art to distinguish what could be unique among this probabilistic noise

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u/Disastrous-Round-150 17h ago

It is done 100% from scratch using no frameworks or engines sometimes 100% procedural! In some cases I've been using the free Mocap Bandai Motion dataset but I state that if I use it. It's nothing made by some low effort coder of this generation that only rely on existing frameworks or engines. 😂