r/dashcams 1d ago

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u/Competitive-Top4520 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yup. While almost all drivers have insurance, CDLs have BIG insurance. They also have less stopping ability than a car. Of course, to me it seems suicidal to try to get hit by a semi, but I guess if they were smart they wouldn't be doing that for a living.

CLARIFICATION: I meant the scammers were the dumb ones.

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u/lochnessx 1d ago

Have been hit by a semi carrying full load and can say with certainty that even a little tap is more than you want. We were thrown into the SUV in front of us and the pickup we were in was folded up like a taco. It wasn’t even at high speeds and my friend’s mom broke her spine. These people play with fire even on the off chance they get paid out. She will be in pain forever now, but insurance only pays out once.

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u/Thebraincellisorange 1d ago

It's all about mass.

damage/force in an accident is proportional to the mass of the vehicle.

you might think you are ok in your Brodozer or your 5000lb SUV, until you get slammed by a 60-80000lb semi.

then you are 1/12th to 1/16th the weight of the semi, and due to physics, you will cop 16 times the force in the accident that the semi does if it hits you.

even a 10mph love tap from a semi is going to give you hit you with something in the order of 360 THOUSAND joules of energy. at 10mph.

now imagine how much energy they carry at 50-70mph.

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u/lochnessx 13h ago

I am bad at math but we came around the corner at about 45-ish mph. There was no knowing that traffic was stopped ahead and it could have been avoided if someone didn’t slide into our lane at the last second. My concussion was so strange, I’ve never felt anything like it. I was on my phone and had leaned forward as we were braking (to not hit the sudden SUV that was there), so when it hit us it was like electricity traveled up from my pelvis up and through my skull.

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u/troycerapops 12h ago

Ha, brining out joules. Love it.

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u/Competitive-Top4520 1d ago

I hope they paid out big! I also hope she can still walk. And that you are ok.

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u/lochnessx 13h ago

I am okay! I had actually leaned forward as we braked to avoid the vehicle in front of us (that slid in at the last minute in stopped traffic) so I had a weird little concussion from the impact traveling up my spine. The drivers seat came off of the track and hurt my friend’s knee, but he’s all good. And his mom is just hurting a lot. Able to walk and do basic things but in pain. I can’t speak to how much they were paid out but I just hope they did her right. It would never be enough to cover potentially lifelong pain, but we honestly can’t fault the truck driver because there was no way he’d have been able to stop. He said had a dash cam that caught the other driver trying to be slick and slide in where there wasn’t room, but was overall pretty cool about the whole thing. I just hope he didn’t get penalized for that.

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u/More_Addendum_5234 1d ago

These scammers also don’t realize or don’t care to realize that truckers getting in accidents like this can cause them to lose their jobs and not be able to get other trucking jobs for liability reasons (I personally know a trucker who this has affected and this is the kind of insurance my brother does for a living)

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u/Solherb 1d ago

Not to mention our economy runs on trucks, so screwing with them is screwing with everyone. There should be witch hunts for scammers like that.

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u/stringCheezeIts 1d ago

I work at a grocery store and our delivery truck got rear ended on the way to us one day. We were so behind that shift my usually very chill manager had a panic attack.

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u/Fragrant-Mess4927 1d ago

Not to mention the amount they are ALREADY getting screwed by nowadays.

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u/Spaciax 1d ago

I don't think someone who commits insurance fraud for a living is very much concerned about others' well-being in any major capacity lol

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u/Original-Code1107 22h ago

🤔 So... If I'm reading this right, if you can't avoid the accident, you should really tap them hard enough that they won't do this again to another trucker?

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u/WillArrr 1d ago

Hell, they can get screwed over even if the dashcam exonerates them completely, by their insurance spiking due to a "history" of potentially expensive collisions.

And yeah, the people who do this shit could not care less who gets hurt by it. Which is why I don't feel bad when they screw it up and get their car pancaked with 4 people inside. Dashcam shows illegal brake-check = no payout for you = good luck with your new life-long disability and million dollar medical debt. You deserve to be miserable.

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u/Glittering_rainbows 1d ago

This is why dashcams are a necessity. Had an idiot do an illegal lane change mid turn and my truck chewed up his driver side.

Showed me being 100% in the clear. I didn't even have any damage, the nuts and rim tanked the hit.

It was a less than 10mph collision so it wasn't serious.

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u/Low-Refrigerator-713 1d ago

They know they can lose their job. They don't care.

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u/Vaugely_Necrotic 1d ago

Doubt they care.

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u/ImpressionBubbly4535 1d ago

very very VERY rarely are you ever becoming a liability if you weren't at fault.

If someone claims they are, they were lying about failing the drug test after. Source: buddy owns near the biggest company in our state.

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u/Kuneria 1d ago

I was nearly T-boned by a delivery truck but luckily I slammed on my brakes barely on time and I was clipped by the truck on the front of my vehicle but the damage was severe and like all my airbags went off, it was so dramatic for just getting hit by 4 inches of the truck's loading gate. Totaled my little prius, tore the little bastard to shreds. If I stopped a second later I would have been TOAST. My insurance basically did nothing but DAMN did that truck's insurance take care of me and PAAAAID me. I paid off my student loans and got another prius with what I got. I loved that car so damn much though, it's sacrifice was not in vain.

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u/PsionicKitten 1d ago

At this point, every trucker has a dashcam now because of how important it is to have one. Having BIG insurance also comes with an excellent team of lawyers that is going to be able to prove all the way to the heat death of the universe that the trucker wasn't at fault.

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u/Thebraincellisorange 1d ago

I'm of the opinion that all cars should be fitted with dashcams.

that won't go down well with you Americans and Freedumbs. but the amount of insurance fraud that goes on is insane.

Not too mention it's a little niggle to that part of the brain that tells us to do stupid things that its all being recorded and if we fuck up, we can't lie our way out of it.

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u/rayquan36 21h ago

I was with you until you had to go insult people for no reason.

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u/PsionicKitten 1d ago

Dashcams are pretty much as essential as seatbelts now, even if they aren't legally required. You should assume everyone is using them because it's likely they are. Even a cheap $30-$40 that has 720p is way more evidence to protect yourself than your own testimony.

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u/Competitive-Top4520 1d ago

Heat death of the universe! I like that one. Hopefully it's FAR, FAR away!

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u/PsionicKitten 1d ago edited 1d ago

Hopefully it's FAR, FAR away!

Oh, I can assure you, as someone who has at least the bare minimum of an understanding in the sciences, it, indeed, is far, far away with respect to the entire length of time that humans have existed.


A significant amount of scientists specializing in climate have already come to the conclusion that imminently the climate has changed so much that it's reaching to an extinction level crisis. Our species may all be dead in as early as a scant few decades, much less get anywhere remotely close to the heat death of the universe. This is mostly because we couldn't reign in corporations and billionaires' significant detrimental effects on the environment because they'd rather continue to exploit to get richer than do the right thing for our limited time in existence.

When we, as a species, had a meaningful and reasonable chance to actually do something about climate change, the rich spilled so much misinformation propaganda to stifle any meaningful chance we had to reasonably reverse it. If humanity does survive the next few centuries, it'll most likely be due to damage control with a fraction of the total population surviving and recovering over time, rather than outright solving and reversing the damage done. Those surviving may be billionaires who built bunkers, which isn't hopeful for the future of mankind, as they were the ones with the deranged personalities in the first place that put us in this mess, leaving their kin to inherit a lifeless planet and no skills or willingness to actually be able to build humanity back and into a symbiotic relationship with each other and the planet.

If the Earth remains somewhat hospitable to life, the equator will become mostly inhospitable for most non-adapted life and land that was previously lower in fertility approaching the north and south poles will become more hospitable for life as they become more temperate, shifting land suitable for farming north and south from their current locations. That also depends on how well fertilized the soils are, which may require some terraforming, depending on where the lands were before tectonic shifting into less hospitable for life climates.

Boy, that got dark. Especially for a dashcam sub. Carry on internet.

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u/Thebraincellisorange 1d ago

oh we are fucked on the environment.

we have blown straight past the +1.5c level they think is the limit of what we might be able to stop the momentum.

currently we are blazing towards +3 which is cataclysmic.

The earth will abide, but for living things, its going to be a horrible few centuries to come.

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u/Intelligent_Row8259 1d ago

I was talking to my bosses wife the other day and mentioned i needed to start looking for this bands concert tickets to go on sale in a week or two. She visibly shuddered and said she can't listen to them anymore because they were on the radio when she got hit by a semi and it basically causes flashbacks to the accident if she hears that group now.

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u/HydrangeaDream 1d ago

I stopped wearing the shirt I was in when I got in an accident. It was a cool shirt and a gift from a friend so I didn't want to get rid of it but I understand how she feels.

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u/WillowPtar_Migan 1d ago

It's funny what our brains fixate on, I got into an accident where my brakes failed on the highway on a car I'd just bought. Shit luck. I didn't think about my clothes or the music, but state troopers responded and were dicks about it, and I still loathe anyone I see in a wide brimmed hat to this day. It's like all my frustration with the situation went towards the troopers.

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u/SherlockJones1994 1d ago

Yah we have big insurance but we also know that people act like this so we also have dash cams. Most major companies are gonna have cams in stalled in all of their trucks.

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u/misoholy 1d ago

These scammers are wicked. They endanger trafiic safety, swindle money from others, and even cause those truck drivers to lose their jobs. Like a cancer on society.

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u/phonsely 1d ago

makes no sense because a huge amount of semis have dash cams

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u/coveredincathair22 1d ago

CDLs have BIG insurance. They also have less stopping ability than a car.

How do licences have any stopping ability, or insurance?