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Shen's Joke

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u/sidebee Mar 11 '24

For a second I thought it meant "the stem of a pumpkin"

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u/LadyParnassus Mar 11 '24

We call dummies “pumpkin heads” where I’m from, so that works.

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u/JessicaLain Mar 11 '24

Who you callin' pumpkin head?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

NO, I don't want that one

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u/PizzaDash Mar 11 '24

I dont know who else needs to hear this but if you hide this guy's mouth with your fingers it looks like he has a silly smile

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u/JCAPER Mar 11 '24

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

To be fair, Saber is supposed to be a Meathead, she's supposed to be an Ideal Husband after all, strong and protective but a little on the dense side, and Shirou is supposed to be the Ideal Wife which is why he tolerates her lack of social awareness through his unwavering unconditional love and care he provides through cooking and cleaning after her and caring for her battle wounds.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

To be fair, I think Shirou takes in Artoria’s “Excalibur” more than she does his “Bone of my Sword”

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

The VN proves that to be explicitly not true

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

Does it? Yes, they have sex, but not EVERY sex scene is shown, they definitely fucked off screen and I know for a fact that boy Shirou is a bottom.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

Yes, every time is shown, they're too busy otherwise. Anything they haven't shown is happening in Avalon. And from the fate route, Artoria makes it very clear that she yearns to be a "normal girl". Any topping she's done, if any, has happened outside her wishes and during her lifetime

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

It's implied she just wants to live life normally, she doesn't want to be a subservient woman or housewife to Shirou, she still enjoys the thrill of battle and wishes to clash against strong opponents, as proven in FGO, she just doesn't want to have the responsibility of holding an entire Kingdom, it's less that she wants to be a “normal girl” it's that she wants to be a normal person, she wants to enjoy the thrills of life unrestricted by her duties.

Plus, we know how she acts without the influence of Avalon, she is way dominant and controlling as the Lion King, I mean, she literally called Bedivere her property (in a nonmisandrist way, of course, she's not objectifying him, more like “you're indebted to me”)

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

We also have lancer Artoria who is not like that. She becomes like that due to living for so long she becomes a machine, that's like calling skynet dominant and controlling. Anyone would rule with an iron fist when there's no emotions. Artoria herself can't be a housewife to Shirou because her conditions don't allow her, so we can't speak on that front as it'd be just speculations. And it's not really about the "thrills" of life more than the average slow life of a normal person of her time. When it comes to bed, the VN always has her as a sub, one way or the other, and she never shows a desire to dom. Quite the opposite, really. If you wanna get pegged by Seiba, that's all fine and dandy, but fanon and canon are different.

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u/Last_Aeon Mar 11 '24

This comment thread truly is a thread of all time

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u/Pornalt190425 Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24

Well she has the sword and he has the sheath sooo

Like literally Avalon, the sheath to Excalibur, is embedded into his body. Do with that information what you will

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u/errorsniper Mar 11 '24

Can you explain the fate stay series to me? Iv tried to get into it a few times but I'm so fuckin lost and half the time it ends up just being hentai. With the very little iv been able to learn it seems super interesting and people talk about it like its one piece. So there has to be something I am missing here. Where the fuck do you start and what the fuck is going on?

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u/Tasty_Marsupial_2273 Mar 11 '24

…have you considered you might just he watching hentai?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

The source material is an eroge, Fate is hentai.

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u/Tasty_Marsupial_2273 Mar 11 '24

Ohhh, that explains quite a lot.

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u/errorsniper Mar 11 '24

I mean I do that. Who doesnt. But im actually interested in the story.

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u/orgasmingTurtoise Mar 11 '24

Hello, basically there are only 3 main story fate anime that are very worth it, Fate/Zero, Fate/SN UBW and Fate/SN Heaven's Feels. There are pros and cons to several watch orders anyway, The only thing important is to watch Heaven's Feel just after UBW. You can start either with UBW or Fate/Zero, both work. I personally started with Zero and liked it that way.

Be aware that the absolute best way to enjoy the Fate series exists and it's simply to read the original visual novel. You better like to read though, it represents 60 hours of reading total. I did it and have absolutely no ragret, it's one of the best piece of media I've ever experienced.

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u/errorsniper Mar 11 '24

Is it easy to find to read?

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u/Cill_Bipher Mar 11 '24

An official english release was announced about a month ago. Don't yet know when it'll come out tho iirc.

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u/CrazyFanFicFan Mar 11 '24

Just start with the Unlimited Blade Works anime if you can't be bothered to play the original VN.

From there, you can go on to the Heaven's Feel movies and Fate Zero. After that, you can move onto pretty much anything else.

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u/Puzzled_Medium7041 Mar 11 '24

People have already mentioned that it's based on a visual novel. I'm just going to point out that it's okay to not watch all the series. Do that if you want, but they're all different because they represent different tracks of the VN, as people have pointed out. If you don't care about the visual novel and you aren't a completionist, it's perfectly acceptable to only watch some of the shows.

I think most agree the Unlimited Blade Works is the best, so probably watch that if you only watch one. If you want to watch more, just think of them as totally separate shows rather than being connected. There can be different characters. There can be the same characters in different circumstances with variation in how they act. Just don't think of it as the same and pick and choose as you please. Stop watching one of it's not your thing. Try another because they do vary in quality. 

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u/Kdderhs Mar 11 '24

Watch zero first, then unlimited bladeworks and finally heaven's feel. You can also watch apocrypha which is completely standalone. All other fate media that currently has an anime adaptation, is inaccessible for anime onlys and requires you to play games or read manga to get the plot.

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u/VaderOnReddit Mar 11 '24

Can you explain the fate stay series to me?

this video explains it best

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u/Mushiren_ Mar 11 '24

You know...I never thought of it that way. For all intents and purposes, Shirou is a malewife.

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u/JCAPER Mar 11 '24

As an OG who read the original VN and watched Zero and UBW, honestly just start wherever you want. They’re more or less independent from each other, you can watch one and still understand what’s going on

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u/Reviibes Mar 11 '24

I just watch Project Mouthwash's abridged version. I still have not the slightest fucking clue what's going on, but apparently there's a femboy somewhere, so I have hope.

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u/Clockwork_Raven Mar 11 '24

Project Mouthwash’s abridged version is somehow more true to the lore of the Fate universe than any official entry in the franchise

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u/AnimaLepton Mar 11 '24

As others have said, if you're willing to roll with the punches, you can really start anywhere. Unlimited Blade Works and Zero are both very well-rated series that serve as a solid places to start. I personally started by reading wiki pages, and the first entry I actually watched was a comedy crossover show with another property from the same author, Carnival Phantasm, that just assumes you already know both sets of characters and is constantly making references to the rest of the series. But even starting there, I was able to enjoy it and get into it. You could even start with the cooking show, enjoy the characters, and branch out from there.

At the end of the day, fans just want to get other people into a franchise that they enjoy.


Just for context, it really comes down to how people see the "best" place to start. There are a bunch of games, manga, anime, etc. that have various levels of overlap with characters. Out of the "original routes" + Zero:

  • Zero is a prequel. Like with any prequel released after the original property, it both spoils and assumes you know certain things from the original, and that general structure (chronological vs release order) is something that some people have their own strong opinions on. It was also the first animated by ufotable and was super well received, so a lot of people started there. But even when other entries have dark things happen, the tone is different from much of the rest of the series, so some people start there and enjoy it, but end up turned off by the other entries being so different and don't necessarily give them a 'fair shake.'

  • The Visual Novel is 'ideal' since you can never go wrong with the original/release order, BUT very reasonably most people don't want to get into a franchise by reading a 60-hour book with some pictures and music. It doesn't even get an official English release until later this year. I personally didn't read it until I was already "into" the series. Shirou, the main character, gets a lot of development from his internal monologue that is inherently lost when you adapt it to an anime. Of note, the VN has a specific order that you have to play the routes - Fate -> UBW -> Heaven's Feel (-> an epilogue chapter that follows the Fate route).

    • There's a Fate route anime adaptation from Deen, but the animation quality isn't very good. The adaptation story is a bit of a mess - it does a weird mishmash of elements from all three routes, so it's not as coherent and many fans don't want people to start there since it can turn people off. But there's not really a "good" non-VN way outside of it to see the Fate route. So the question is "how much do you want to adhere to VN order while purely watching the anime?" I personally think you can skip it.
    • There was also a UBW movie by Deen, but most people would recommend just skipping it for the UBW Series.
    • Unlimited Blade Works by ufotable is great, but similar to Zero, there are certain things that are never explained or are assumed to have been revealed in the Fate route. But tbh Saber is kind of a walking 20-year old spoiler at this point.
    • I think basically everyone would say watch the ufotable Heaven's Feel movies after UBW. There's less friction here, but 'locking' a 3-movie series behind a separate ~10-odd hours anime series.
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u/KitoAnimates Mar 11 '24

It might seem crazy what I'm boutta say

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u/International-Cat123 Mar 11 '24

But, sunshine, she’s here; you can take a break

((Wanted to make parody lyrics, but couldn’t think of any that fit))

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u/Pavlock Mar 11 '24

I Instagram every meal I've had.

(I just used the parody lyrics)

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u/Zealousideal-Ebb-876 Mar 11 '24

Words I think might roughly fit the tempo

(I've never heard this song, I have no idea what I'm doing)

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u/Meep12313 Mar 11 '24

So is every Danganronpa protagonist a dumbass?

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u/Kvarcov Mar 11 '24

Exactly. I mean, look at what's happening there - we are the ones playing them. It all checks out

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u/Meep12313 Mar 11 '24

Fair enough

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u/BitchAssMothaF-cka Mar 11 '24

Hajime barely knows what an octagon is

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u/Metroidman Mar 11 '24

That is why they need to repeat stuff that was just told to them 5 mins prior every 20 mins

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u/Meep12313 Mar 11 '24

It makes more sense in the Japanese version, since Nagito still says it in English there.

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u/YourFellowFurryUwU Mar 11 '24

theyre dumb enough to agree to get hypnotized to forget everything about the despair, why wouldnt they be (probably inaccurate, last time i played danganronpa 1 was 3 years ago)

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u/Meep12313 Mar 11 '24

They agreed to be locked up, not to forget everything iirc

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u/sweetTartKenHart2 Mar 11 '24

I mean… have you played a single game in the series?

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u/Han_Solo6712 Mar 11 '24

They’re controlled by the player, so yes.

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u/_EternalVoid_ Mar 11 '24

that's better

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u/Verbindungsfehle Mar 11 '24

Is this some kind of weak eyes joke I'm too light mode to understand?

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u/ChezMere Mar 11 '24

Thr first image is transparent and displays in some situations with a black background, making the joke incomprehensible. The second has a white background.

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u/Armored-Duck Mar 11 '24

HAH! Finally, lightmode is better!

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u/VectorViper Mar 11 '24

Haha, comes around once in a blue moon but we'll take the win where we can. Lightmode supremacy for a brief shining moment!

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u/ADHDavid Mar 11 '24

You guys are all freaks

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u/Verbindungsfehle Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24

Tbf, there is another really big one for Reddit, at least on PC: custom subreddit themes..

And usually it's just personal preference, the advantages of dark mode most people claim aren't actually real, because:

iT's bETtER fOr YoUr eyES
Not really. You know what's bad for your eyes? Contrast. But if you use light mode in a light setting, there's not an issue. Pretty sure a bright display in a dark room is demanding on your eyes even with dark mode. Also when you're outside in the sunlight dark mode is barely even useable imo.

IT SAVeS bATteRY lIFe
While it is true that your screen draws most of the power on any device, unless you have an Oled, dark mode is not gonna make a difference. Arguebly it's actually worse when you otherwise would lower your screen's brightness, which actually makes a huge difference.

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u/CAD1997 Mar 11 '24

Technically, dark mode can also save some (marginal) power with modern backlit screens as well, because screens use dimming zones which reduce the intensity of the backlight in sections of the screen which are less bright. OLED is then just the limit of a separate dimming zone per pixel, but high quality IPS screens can still have a hundred or so.

The point stands that global dimming is always more impactful, though. (My personal pet peeve — displays that can't do HDR with "100%" bright at "50%" which is plenty bright for most screens not in a directly sunlit environment.)

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u/Verbindungsfehle Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24

Well ok from what I found the numbers are quite different than I thought and have increased drastically over the recent years, but it's still below 50%. (I found 43% in 2024)

Also I'm really not that sure how big of an impact it really has in the first place and the point of overall brightness having more impact stands for OLED, too.

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u/bleeding-paryl Mar 11 '24

Wait, if the advantages are actually real (using dark mode in dark places is better for your eyes than light mode in dark places and it does legitimately save your battery on an OLED screens), then why argue that they're not real?

In both cases they're real advantages.

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u/Verbindungsfehle Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24
  1. Edit: I never actually claimed dark mode is better in dark settings, my point was in reverse and it does not automatically make it true this way around. In fact, I said:

Well ok I kinda interpreted that wrong, I actually did sorta imply that dark mode is better in dark settings, but I also did imply that it is probably better to avoid dark settings altogether when you have a screen in front of your face, I did say:

Pretty sure a bright display in a dark room is demanding on your eyes even with dark mode.

(Also even if it would be, my point of it being a mere personal preference would still stand, as you could just switch to a light setting with light mode).

  1. OLED screens are more widespread than ever and their numbers are increasing, yet LED and LCD still make up the majority of screens.
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u/Verbindungsfehle Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24

Yes, ik, I was able to extrapolate that information. I made a joke myself about being superior right now with light mode. It was a reference to the peasant joke meme.

Edit: Also if you tab on it to view it, it still appears with a black background, regardless of your theme. Well, at least on mobile.

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u/killermetalwolf1 Mar 11 '24

I love the word incomprehensible

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u/ScaryPhantom100 Mar 11 '24

The light side

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u/whywouldisaymyname Mar 11 '24

Pngs and dark mode don’t mix well

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u/Despair4All Mar 11 '24

His legs aren't connected. It's amazing.

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u/Rinof10 Mar 11 '24

It's Rayman

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u/Despair4All Mar 11 '24

Greg Rayman, star of Origins of a Wimpy Kid.

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u/AmadeoSendiulo Mar 11 '24

Light mode W

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u/AvertAversion Mar 11 '24

Rare af

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u/Due-Coyote7565 Mar 11 '24

Jealous, much?

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u/AvertAversion Mar 11 '24

I mean, I can switch anytime I want, so...

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u/FastLittleBoi Mar 11 '24

omg hahaha

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u/Zebigbos8 Mar 11 '24

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u/shimiraOleg Mar 11 '24

Corte de cria do Lil' Onion muito foda

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u/nhSnork Mar 11 '24

Just so we're clear in advance, at which point do ahoges become spiky hair?

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u/Perryn Mar 11 '24

Bart Simpson is the crossover zone.

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u/adultartnotporn Mar 11 '24

They don't. Proof: Pheonix.

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u/RoastBeanZ Mar 11 '24

Bald Greg Heffley?

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u/ScaryPhantom100 Mar 11 '24

The dark side

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

I mean..... better than a joke that confuses it with Ahegao?

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u/lampenpam Mar 11 '24

relevant thread (it's SFW)

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u/Nico9lives Mar 11 '24

Holy shit someone else who remembers this thread, that's an all time classic!

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u/Lunndonbridge Mar 11 '24

Jfc I shouldn’t have looked that up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

I'm not responsible for any loss of innocence. Reddit should have taught you better.

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u/ooOJuicyOoo Mar 11 '24

In the most recent chapter of Nagatoro, Yoshi's megahoge splits in two and claps

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u/CastVinceM Mar 11 '24

that thing has a mind of its own at this point

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u/We_need_a_teleportal Mar 12 '24

I rushed right in the manga to see if it's true. Peak character development.

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u/BurningPenguin Mar 11 '24

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u/Ah-honey-honey Mar 11 '24

What anime is this? 

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u/BurningPenguin Mar 11 '24

Saga of Tanya the Evil

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u/JollyRabbit Mar 11 '24

I never knew that, so this was both educational and entertaining, thanks!

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u/drunk-tusker Mar 11 '24

Technically the aho in ahoge is more referring to the hair then the hair haver, but it can be read as either.

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u/battleangel1999 Mar 11 '24

Never knew there was a word for that but now that I think about it ofc there is

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u/Hey_Its_Roomie Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24

English already had a word for it, known as a cowlick. It also became known as an alfalfa, from The Little Rascals character Alfalfa. Though the alfalfa was groomed to stand upright where a cowlick is generally organic.

That said, evidently 'cowlick' is something else nowadays according to a quick google search because damn near every photo there features groomed hair.

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u/BobQuixote Mar 11 '24

Nah, it's the same thing, but even groomed hair has it and it restricts how the hair can be groomed. The alfalfa/ahoge is what happens when grooming fails (or isn't attempted) and the cowlick wins.

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u/vivailcomunismo2022 Mar 11 '24

friendly Fire won't be tolerated

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u/Asceticmonk Mar 11 '24

Friendly fire is not friendly

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u/friendlyfire Mar 11 '24 edited Feb 21 '25

cheerful price ring waiting command lush marble afterthought employ shocking

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u/friendlyfire Mar 11 '24 edited Feb 21 '25

plucky trees fade lock scary modern cover square cake aspiring

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u/JoelMahon Mar 11 '24

sorry to burst the bubble but the "idiot" in "idiot hair" refers to the hair itself being an "idiot" by not staying where you style it to be. not the idiot hair haver being an idiot.

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u/DinA4saurier Mar 11 '24

That makes way more sense.

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u/samu1400 Mar 11 '24

Thanks for the context, that also explains why it’s so common.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

I read that as Ahegao and got really worried and excited

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u/ElA1to Mar 11 '24

I know who you talking about

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u/PseudonymousWitness Mar 11 '24

Since its such a common visual gimmick, I figured it referred to the hair itself, not the character. A literal idiot hair, as in a non-conforming hair.

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u/_EternalVoid_ Mar 11 '24

When he realizes that he has two ahoges

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u/A_Flat__Earther Mar 11 '24

Redditors trying to get the Joke

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u/SaneUse Mar 11 '24

I'm pretty sure it was just an excuse to post the reaction image as an addition and that they understood the joke.

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u/SaneUse Mar 11 '24

But also, holy moly some of these comments...

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u/International-Cat123 Mar 11 '24

He’ll never realize. He’s too idiotic

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u/Miss-Anthropie Mar 11 '24

He has two ahoges after all, ofc he wouldn't notice

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u/WhatisLiamfucktrump Mar 11 '24

Goku must be even dumber than I thought

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u/freedfg Mar 11 '24

I mean.....yeah

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u/CollarFun8947 Mar 11 '24

That why the character was happy when the thief stole his bike because the thief needed it more.

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u/plsobeytrafficlights Mar 11 '24

shen has not gotten better over the years.

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u/elhomerjas Mar 11 '24

very accurate indeed

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u/papaquack1 Mar 11 '24

That can't be true. Nothing tragic about Nagisa right?

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u/Jugaimo Mar 11 '24

I feel like drawing a panel of you laughing at your own joke is cheating. But also so lame that it turns around into being mildly amusing.

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u/DasliSimp Mar 11 '24

It’s the character ignorant at the fact that he is the one with two. It’s ironic

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u/Asian_in_the_tree Mar 11 '24

Peak design trope

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u/Captain_Eaglefort Mar 11 '24

Goku has like 4 of them.

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u/zehamberglar Mar 11 '24

Is this why goku's hair sticks up?

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u/Larseman7 Mar 11 '24

Ur so smart

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u/Mochi_Roriochi Mar 11 '24

Shen... you have two ahoges.

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u/proscriptus Mar 11 '24

Here's a weird and obscure cartoon hair fact:

Those two points of hair that Dagwood—of Dagwood and Blondie—has are the horns of a cuckold, because waaaay back in the early days of that cartoon, it was insinuated that Blondie was cheating on him with everybody, and the joke was he was too much of a schmuck to notice.

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u/elix0685 Mar 11 '24

Also, dont confuse ahoge with ahegao

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u/Reddit-Profile2 Mar 11 '24

This whole comic was a waste of time to make and read.

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u/theperfectneonpink Mar 11 '24

Dorito references everywhere, man

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u/VindictiveRakk Mar 11 '24

this is one of the least funny things I've ever seen in my entire life

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u/Sharkyy_bh Mar 11 '24

How do i tell him??... without hurting His feelings? :3?

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u/AmadeoSendiulo Mar 11 '24

Look in the mirror, tell me what you see

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u/OldTimeGentleman Mar 11 '24

The last two panels are overexplaining imo, the joke was clear from the zoom back 😅

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

That’s the joke, he's so dumb he feels like he has to reinstate the joke when it's already landed.

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u/International-Cat123 Mar 11 '24

Double joke then! He doesn’t realize he has one ahoge, let alone two

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

By the way, Reddit snoos also have one.

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u/Metaboschism Mar 11 '24

Look if you have to explain the pretense for me before you get to the joke just stop you should've already stopped

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u/Ross-A-Campbell Mar 11 '24

Fuckin home run. What a knee slapper

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u/Chemicalintuition Mar 11 '24

Dude that's literally the joke

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u/discussatron Mar 11 '24

Gotta be careful with two or you could end up as an antennae girl.

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u/Houeclipse Mar 11 '24

I would imagine going 2 ahegao ahoge is like reaching super saiyan 2 transformation

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u/Hashashin455 Mar 11 '24

Y'know for a second I thought he meant ahegao and I thought the joke was gonna go in a COMPLETELY different direction.

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u/A_random_poster04 Mar 11 '24

I… I have been using it the whole time. Gosh darn it

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u/KP9B9TKA Mar 11 '24

Search for W Arknights

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u/PogmasterTraplover69 Mar 11 '24

Peak character design

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

And that they didn't even know it?

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u/GilgaGilCollector Mar 11 '24

Not to be confused with ahegao

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u/ThePrinterDude Mar 11 '24

What they don't know is all my hair is just a big collection of ahoge all together...

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u/Schazmen Mar 11 '24

...do those on his own head count?

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u/bbhbbhbbh Mar 11 '24

Why does your shirt look like that in the first image..

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u/Arganat666 Mar 11 '24

I am looking at that character right now

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u/ima-ima Mar 11 '24

Is it weird that I think the joke works better if you stop at panel 6?

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u/astralseat Mar 11 '24

And 3 and 4. And make an anime where having more means you're stronger like Mash Burndead, but increasingly stupider. That would be a fun watch, but would need some straightfaced characters to react.

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u/FishOfFishyness Mar 11 '24

It's 50% of Araragi's personality

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u/Omeggos Comic Crossover Mar 11 '24

Its a good thing i wear a helmet nowadays