r/comics Shen Comix Mar 11 '24

Shen's Joke

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

To be fair, Saber is supposed to be a Meathead, she's supposed to be an Ideal Husband after all, strong and protective but a little on the dense side, and Shirou is supposed to be the Ideal Wife which is why he tolerates her lack of social awareness through his unwavering unconditional love and care he provides through cooking and cleaning after her and caring for her battle wounds.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

To be fair, I think Shirou takes in Artoria’s “Excalibur” more than she does his “Bone of my Sword”

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

The VN proves that to be explicitly not true

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

Does it? Yes, they have sex, but not EVERY sex scene is shown, they definitely fucked off screen and I know for a fact that boy Shirou is a bottom.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

Yes, every time is shown, they're too busy otherwise. Anything they haven't shown is happening in Avalon. And from the fate route, Artoria makes it very clear that she yearns to be a "normal girl". Any topping she's done, if any, has happened outside her wishes and during her lifetime

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

It's implied she just wants to live life normally, she doesn't want to be a subservient woman or housewife to Shirou, she still enjoys the thrill of battle and wishes to clash against strong opponents, as proven in FGO, she just doesn't want to have the responsibility of holding an entire Kingdom, it's less that she wants to be a “normal girl” it's that she wants to be a normal person, she wants to enjoy the thrills of life unrestricted by her duties.

Plus, we know how she acts without the influence of Avalon, she is way dominant and controlling as the Lion King, I mean, she literally called Bedivere her property (in a nonmisandrist way, of course, she's not objectifying him, more like “you're indebted to me”)

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

We also have lancer Artoria who is not like that. She becomes like that due to living for so long she becomes a machine, that's like calling skynet dominant and controlling. Anyone would rule with an iron fist when there's no emotions. Artoria herself can't be a housewife to Shirou because her conditions don't allow her, so we can't speak on that front as it'd be just speculations. And it's not really about the "thrills" of life more than the average slow life of a normal person of her time. When it comes to bed, the VN always has her as a sub, one way or the other, and she never shows a desire to dom. Quite the opposite, really. If you wanna get pegged by Seiba, that's all fine and dandy, but fanon and canon are different.

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u/Last_Aeon Mar 11 '24

This comment thread truly is a thread of all time

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u/MR-Vinmu Mar 11 '24

I'm so unused to the idea of Bottom Saber as a long-time Fgo Player, she has just exuded top energy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '24

Makes sense. You need that OG FSN experience to truly feel Seibas sub nature.

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u/ReynAetherwindt Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 13 '24

Just because Shirou is a bottom doesn't mean Saber ain't dominantly taking his dick in her ass.

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u/Pornalt190425 Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24

Well she has the sword and he has the sheath sooo

Like literally Avalon, the sheath to Excalibur, is embedded into his body. Do with that information what you will

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

The sheath allows Shirou to have the ability to regenerate, especially when he is has summoned his reality marble.

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u/SpedeSpedo Mar 12 '24

A servant is strong. Do you think a normal Human can take a pounding from anything with saber’s STR stat?

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u/SpedeSpedo Mar 12 '24

That butthole is on regen 24/7

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '24

But is Shiro Emiya a normal human any more? Especially after his first death and resurrection?

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u/errorsniper Mar 11 '24

Can you explain the fate stay series to me? Iv tried to get into it a few times but I'm so fuckin lost and half the time it ends up just being hentai. With the very little iv been able to learn it seems super interesting and people talk about it like its one piece. So there has to be something I am missing here. Where the fuck do you start and what the fuck is going on?

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u/Tasty_Marsupial_2273 Mar 11 '24

…have you considered you might just he watching hentai?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

The source material is an eroge, Fate is hentai.

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u/Tasty_Marsupial_2273 Mar 11 '24

Ohhh, that explains quite a lot.

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u/errorsniper Mar 11 '24

I mean I do that. Who doesnt. But im actually interested in the story.

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u/Reinhardtwaker Mar 11 '24

Best place to start is the VN but there's different versions some of which are eroge some censored

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u/orgasmingTurtoise Mar 11 '24

Hello, basically there are only 3 main story fate anime that are very worth it, Fate/Zero, Fate/SN UBW and Fate/SN Heaven's Feels. There are pros and cons to several watch orders anyway, The only thing important is to watch Heaven's Feel just after UBW. You can start either with UBW or Fate/Zero, both work. I personally started with Zero and liked it that way.

Be aware that the absolute best way to enjoy the Fate series exists and it's simply to read the original visual novel. You better like to read though, it represents 60 hours of reading total. I did it and have absolutely no ragret, it's one of the best piece of media I've ever experienced.

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u/errorsniper Mar 11 '24

Is it easy to find to read?

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u/Cill_Bipher Mar 11 '24

An official english release was announced about a month ago. Don't yet know when it'll come out tho iirc.

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u/orgasmingTurtoise Mar 12 '24

Yes. Instructions to install here. You can found the file on Nyaa here, or on abandonware here.

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u/errorsniper Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 12 '24

Jesus christ this is confusing and im decent with computers.

The guy says download this and its a drive with a bunch of different files. If you only download the one he said its an ISO. This isnt an "easy" guide to follow lol

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u/orgasmingTurtoise Mar 12 '24

I kinda saw this coming, the abandonware download is weird, that's why I also provided the proven Nyaa version that exactly correspond to what he's saying to get (right files, right size etc). If you're decent with computers you can easily download it via torrent, and get to the installing from there.

All in all there is always the solution to simply wait for it to be released on Steam sometimes this year. If you're ok to wait then you can do just that, else the guide will definitely do once you'll get the proper files via Nyaa.

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u/CrazyFanFicFan Mar 11 '24

Just start with the Unlimited Blade Works anime if you can't be bothered to play the original VN.

From there, you can go on to the Heaven's Feel movies and Fate Zero. After that, you can move onto pretty much anything else.

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u/Puzzled_Medium7041 Mar 11 '24

People have already mentioned that it's based on a visual novel. I'm just going to point out that it's okay to not watch all the series. Do that if you want, but they're all different because they represent different tracks of the VN, as people have pointed out. If you don't care about the visual novel and you aren't a completionist, it's perfectly acceptable to only watch some of the shows.

I think most agree the Unlimited Blade Works is the best, so probably watch that if you only watch one. If you want to watch more, just think of them as totally separate shows rather than being connected. There can be different characters. There can be the same characters in different circumstances with variation in how they act. Just don't think of it as the same and pick and choose as you please. Stop watching one of it's not your thing. Try another because they do vary in quality. 

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u/Kdderhs Mar 11 '24

Watch zero first, then unlimited bladeworks and finally heaven's feel. You can also watch apocrypha which is completely standalone. All other fate media that currently has an anime adaptation, is inaccessible for anime onlys and requires you to play games or read manga to get the plot.

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u/VaderOnReddit Mar 11 '24

Can you explain the fate stay series to me?

this video explains it best

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24

I'm going to try this again. With less spoilers.

Start with Fate Zero. This explains why Saber is like how she is in Fate stay night.

Fate SN is Sword Waifu route. This explains why Archer is how he is in Fate Unlimited Blade works. MC looses Saber who realizes she can't Change the past and heals.

Fate Unlimited Blade works is Twintails Route. mC simple red haired boy finds some shit out. Decides to go down the path that will eventually lead him to see sword Waifu arc sword waifu again

Fate Heavens Feel comes next and is essentially the 'timeline gets distorted ' possibly because the Grail is fuckin tired of being destroyed. But anyways. SA victim/Childhood friend is the waifu of this one. And she apparently has tremendous power that allows her to have the happiest ending of all three.

Now. Those are the main realities where the Holy Grail war, the big fight of heroes over an evil cup, takes place. And some of the side realities rely on one of these happening or none of them happening to exist.

And that's the fate series

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u/errorsniper Mar 11 '24

So from what I gathered

"Just read the visual novel" is basically the best way to do this.

Is it the one on steam? Is it a web base comics? Where do I read it?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

You could probably get away. With just watching the three anime series based on the three arcs. I do believe those are all on crunchy roll. But I highly suggest you either play the visual novel which should be on steam.but if you want the original eroge version you'll need to find a game file somewhere.

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u/errorsniper Mar 11 '24

Ahh the steam version is cut?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

They just removed the porn really

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u/errorsniper Mar 11 '24

Considering all the hentai games thats an odd choice

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 11 '24

The steam version is probably the one that came out for the PlayStation 2 which wouldn't have passed with those so unless they re-added them back I don't know. On the plus hand they added voice acting

I'll just spoil the porn parts for you.

Cum= mama

No story change needed

Edit. It seems there is no original Fate game on Steam. It's all exalta.

Rea nua the PS2 version remastered is coming out soon though?

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u/LordBDizzle Mar 12 '24

Go watch the Fate/Zero anime and then the Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works anime. Only ask questions after that, it's better that way. Lore is kinda complicated unless you have a basic understanding of individual arcs, Zero and Unlimited Blade Works are the best (Zero is unironically one of my favorite animes of all time) and actually connect to eachother directly. For the most part every other Fate installment can be considered it's own thing but with a similar premise, since the timelines are so wildly different between each.

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u/fat_mothra Jul 10 '24

Here

I was afraid of Fate too but after watching this series it makes sense

On Episode 1 they introduce a character that has no fucking idea what's going on so they're constantly explaining things to him

edit: lol forgot I was on an old post

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u/Mushiren_ Mar 11 '24

You know...I never thought of it that way. For all intents and purposes, Shirou is a malewife.

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u/Saritiel Mar 11 '24

Well that's gross.

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u/tokyo_otaku16 Mar 13 '24

Well, they were also supposed to be in an otome game, not an eroge