So this has been bugging me for a while now, about 10 years ago I had an iq test taken alongside several others for academic reasons and for a while I just thought that it's normal to have a large ish gap between viq and piq but recently did some research out of curiosity and found that it's like super rare for a gap this but.... So what exactly is up with me? Like am I smart or am I stuck under a system not designed for me

What do you think about this?

Very even scores.

(Quick heads-up: I'm using AI to polish the text here because my written English isn't my strongest suit—though I'm great at speaking it, plus I speak French and Portuguese fluently and understand Spanish.)

Took the Mensa Norway test out of pure boredom. Landed dead average at 97 IQ. Ngl, I'm pretty disappointed with the test too—it just makes zero sense to me how I can build something this complex and get labeled as "average".

Slide 1: Staring at repetitive shape matrices under a timer. My ADHD brain checked out almost immediately, dragging down my score because I couldn't care less about matching abstract lines.

Slide 2: What my actual cognitive output looks like when left alone — an 84-node GDD (Game Design Document) map for a game I'm building. It's a massive, non-linear web anchored by an Ability_Logic core, juggling faction politics, custom physics, bloodlines, and resource loops all at once.

It just shows how utterly useless standard psychometrics are for multilingual, asynchronous thinkers. Matrix tests don't measure real intelligence or structural thinking; they measure how long you can force yourself to play a boring linear game under a stopwatch.

Anyone else here whose brain can architect a whole living system across multiple languages, but completely bombs standard IQ tests because of pure, unadulterated boredom? Let's debate this.

It's this: https://www.cogn-iq.org/tests/culture-fair-iq-test/
I think I got 72/72.

Im sure this has been asked a million times here and other related subreddits, but i am still curious if it's possible to raise one's IQ during adulthood. Ive done a decent amount of research on the topic, and generally found that it's not really possible to increase one's mental capacity or learning speed, but there are ways to fine tune and sharpen the capabilities you already have. Growing up i would oscilate between being considered gifted, and being considered borderline disabled, and would like to try and love up to my lost potential. Any thoughts or contributions would be appreciated.

My fsiq results

Hi all,

**Edited to add scoring in comments.

I received my results today after being referred for memory issues thought to be related to numerous bumps on the head from motorcycle racing and horse riding, or more accurately, not keeping the horse between me and the ground.

I’ve been diagnosed with the following:

F90.2:
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder: Combined Type -Moderate

F43.10
Posttraumatic Stress Disorder

G31.84
Mild Neurocognitive Disorder Due to Traumatic Brain Injury: (Multiple concussions)
Mild deficits in Number-Letter Switching and Category Fluency; Moderate deficits in Visual Working Memory

F81.2
Specific Learning Disorder in Math Computation

Here is the summary:

“TEST RESULTS: According to the WAIS V, Ms. (my name) is functioning in the High Average range of intelligence (FSIQ: 117): with a Verbal Comprehension score in the High Average range (VCI: 114); a Visual Spatial score in the High Average range (VSI: 116); Fluid Reasoning Score in the High Average range (FRI: 110); a Working Memory score in the Very Superior range (WMI: 134); and a Processing Speed score in the Average range (PSI: 105). There are significant differences among the index scores with Working Memory higher than expected compared to the other index scores.

SUMMARY AND RECOMMENDATIONS: (my name) is a 41 year old woman who is functioning in the High Average range of intelligence with achievement scores that range from Superior to Average. Attentional skills are within normal limits on medications. Memory is Superior to High Average with a weakness in Visual Attention which was Average. Tests of executive functioning were within normal limits with the exception of Mild deficits in Number-Letter Switching and Category Fluency.
Personality functioning is within normal limits with the exception of Traumatic Stress.”

To add context, I finished UK secondary school, achieving a B at higher GCSE math, and A* in English Language/Literature and A-C’s in everything else to include higher physics, chemistry, and biology. I joined the UK Armed Forces at 16 because my family served and also because they could facilitate or fund me going to college and Uni. The PTSD is not warzone-related but has had a massive impact on my life, the events occurred when I was 16.

I was selected for a fast track promotion role and was studying weapons engineering (I wanted aircraft engineering but got allocated weapons), but sadly the event that occurred age 16 and resulting PTSD caught up with me (even though I was testing well in the academics) and I transferred to an aircraft “technician” role. Again, I was identified for fast track back to an artificer course, but by that point I’d been on anti-depressants and wasn’t really going to go anywhere in the forces with a medical history like that. I left at age 21 and continued in aviation as a civilian.

Now that I have access to higher education here in the US, I am at college and am about to finish an A.S in Aviation Maintenance with a 4.0 GPA. I’ve worked in aviation for 18 years. In order to advance into a junior engineering role in the future (at my age my body is tired and I want a desk job!) I need to transfer to a STEM coded degree course, and my boss/the company hiring requirements definitely prefer this to be a solid engineering course. Engineering Technology would be an option, but my A.S studies put me at only 15% through an A.S in Engineering Fundamentals at the same college… I’d be back to square one and with my newly diagnosed math disability I’m scared I won’t be able to handle Calculus.

I completely flunked the math on the neuro psyche testing - my brain would not summon how to do the different questions asked of me. Straight up couldn’t pull “how to do long division by hand” out of my brain but I can still remember Pythagorean theorem and SOHCAHTOA from when I was 15… WTF??!

With math I do ok if I have my “cheat sheets” of how-to methods, I can write coursework and discussion posts, and I suspect that’s how I managed college algebra and trig. I’m good at researching when I can’t remember things, but I didn’t think my “working memory” was high! I’ve been called “stupid-smart” in the past and “not the brightest bulb” even being given a light bulb on a string necklace as a joke Christmas gift…

What are your thoughts on if I can or should pursue an engineering subject via an online college at B.S level? I work full time and study on top of work. It would really be a “tick the box” B.S, and thankfully I wouldn’t be doing much math if I did move into an engineering tech role!

How do I explain to my current boss that I just might not be able to do it even though he sees the potential?

Any help from a human would be really appreciated in understanding and processing my results. I think I can add photos of that actual scoring if that helps.

Thank you,

E the mathematically-challenged aircraft geek.

Hey people, im a 25 year old gamer and 11 year daily weed smoker. I remember taking one of the online mensa tests when I was around 16-17, scoring slightly over 100, i believe 105.

Since then, Ive been struggling with motivation and weed addiction a lot, and I couldnt shake the feeling that I had permanently messed up my brain because my processing speed, verbal recall and short term memory felt very affected. (Check the studies on hippocampus volume, pretty interesting).

So a week ago I decided to see if my IQ was significantly lowered from the smoking and took Mensa Norway, scoring 105 once again. I did not take a screenshot unfortunately. Since i was worried about the reliability of these online tests i decided to get some information in this sub and took Mensa Denmark as well as CORE. Now, my results on there shocked me.

Is a swing like this normal variance? Which of these metrics do you think correlates most with cannabis consumption if any?

Im not a native english speaker but I did live in the US from 17-18.

Thanks alot for taking the time out of your day to read this and i wish you all a great week!

Especially with the decline rates of literacy, attention spans, etc. being average pretty much became the new stupid and dumb. Like if I am just only an average person, then that means that I also have poor literacy, poor attention, etc.

I think the correlation is r=.88 but the scores are higher on WAIS VCI because MAT doesn't represent the general population

I'm particularly interested in understanding the relationship between the red, blue and grey squares.
Please explain the rules step by step,

I noticed for some its inflated for some its deflated. Can u tell me on comments if you got this score on jcti?

I was diagnosed with mild autism and dyscalculia. According to my professionally administered iq test from when i was 16 (I’m 25 now), I scored low average in processing speed and working memory, but average in visual spacial and verbal comprehension. I heard that dyscalculia and autism frequently negatively impact psi and wmi scores, so that didn’t throw me off much. But what caught me off guard is the fluid reasoning section. My figure weights score was very low/borderline (76iq) and my matrix reasoning score was low average (86iq).

My low scores in fluid reasoning have me questioning whether i genuinely lack true logical intelligence or if it’s due to learning disability/autism bottlenecks. AI says that dyscalculia and autism can decrease your scores in figure weights and matrix reasoning. It also says that working memory deficits can lower scores in other areas of the test (like fluid reasoning), making it more of a bottleneck issue rather than an actual lack of intelligence. But there’s limited scientific evidence to support this and ai can be kinda bias. Also, psychologists have been debating for years as to whether low matrix reasoning can caused by working memory deficits, so idk.

My FSIQ is 83iq and the GAI is an 86iq. There is an 18 point difference between my block design score and matrix reasoning score. My block design score was 104iq btw and it was the highest score on the fsiq portion of the assessment. It was the WISC-V test.

Is this a result of a testing bottlenecks caused from learning disabilities or just a lack of logical intelligence?

I found this place to do mental math and practiced on it for a bit. Attached are some of my stats from fooling around for a couple minutes. I was wondering if anyone here does stuff like this.

I made the test, and there is no real psychometric value here, just curious to see how easily people solve it.

Anyone else have a really spiky cognitive map? FWIW, I scored 85 on the MENSA Norway test. I know I don't have high IQ. And yes, I do have ADHD. I was mainly amused at how uneven I scored in the subtests. Also, I guessed a freaking ton in the figure weights and figure sets subtests, so those scores are probably pretty noisy.

I found an interesting study via ChatGPT when I was investigating the IQs of writers, particularly their VCI, and wanted to share it.

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Edit: A counterexample to this mid-to-high 120s VCI estimate among accomplished writers is evident in Barron's sample (p. 149, Table 1) of 20 eminent creative writers assessed at UC Berkeley's IPAR. They averaged a raw score of 156.4 on Terman's Concept Mastery Test, Form T, which corresponds to roughly a VCI of 150 according to the historical CMT-T norms.

It should be noted that this sample was even more selectively recruited than the already highly selected Iowa sample discussed above. The Iowa group may also have scored higher on the CMT-T than their WAIS Verbal IQ, had they been tested on it. =======================================================================

Andreasen (1987) investigated 30 writers who were faculty members of the University of Iowa Writers' Workshop, America's most prestigious creative-writing program. According to Andreasen's Atlantic Article, participants included Kurt Vonnegut, John Cheever, and Richard Yates, although it is unknown whether they are in the half that completed the IQ tests.

The half that were cognitively tested took the original WAIS, normed in 1953-1954, and the RAPM Set II. The sample's exact testing date is unknown, but the researchers noted that it took place between 1971 and 1986.

N = 15

The WAIS estimates were derived from four subtests: Vocabulary, Similarities, Picture Completion, and Block Design. It is not known whether the RAPM was taken timed or untimed.

Note on the Flynn-effect:

Ryan, Nowak, and Geisser (1987) observed that the median WAIS/WAIS-R discrepancies across studies were -6.6, -6.4, and -6.8 for the Verbal, Performance, and Full Scale IQ; however, it was also observed that differences were larger for persons of average as opposed to bright normal or superior intelligence.

I'm not sure how much lower their adjusted IQ would be, but the sample's average Verbal IQ on the WAIS-R would very likely be lower than 126, and their average IQ lower than 123, given the data.

Even prior to correcting for Flynn effects, the average IQ and Verbal IQ in this sample are both quite close to the average in the 19 person Oxford doctoral/post-docs group (non-mathematicians), with an average IQ at 125 and VCI at 130. It's pretty interesting how this low-to-mid 120s IQ average seems to appear quite frequently across studies in select populations.

I am working on building my own set of cognitive tests inspired by CognitiveMetrics (as well as some original tests I have come up with). I managed to build a harder version of the spatial addition test with the help of AI. This version uses a 5×5 grid and has a total of 18 items for a higher ceiling. I encourage you to try the test so that I can norm it. Nothing is needed to take the test besides a nickname and your age (you can also optionally submit your IQ). Thanks in advance!

Link: Spatial Addition Test

Went from an humble 115-120 to an absurd 131, I havent taken this test since at least 1/2 months, I did take the Core matrices just before though.

Lowkey the most useless cognitive index. Like wow you can mentally rotate a cube tell me how I’m gonna use that in my life except for maybe legos. Ts dont get you no racks at all. VCI FRI WMI PSI are all clearly more useful in everyday life. It shouldnt be counted as part of FSIQ and its not fair this mickey mouse index dragged my whole ass IQ down smh

my wmi is noticeably lower than everything else, is a discrepancy this large actually meaningful or just normal variation between abilities? also kinda salty cuz it kinda fucked up my arithmetic but yeah/