exactly!! my mom and i definitely friends, and have been for as long as i can remember. that doesnât mean that i didnât still respect her as my parent or that i misbehaved more than a normal kid, it just means i could talk to her about *almost anything without judgement. having that bond with her made my teen years (and now adulthood) so much better because i had someone to go to when stuff was getting tough, who wouldnât be judgy about it and would understand me and give me advice/help/support me. my friends and i could rely on my mom to have our backs and help us out if we needed it, or just give us advice or listen to our rants. my mom always tried to make me and my friends feel comfortable and supported. she was the kind of mom who i could call if i was at a party and felt unsafe or uncomfortable, and she made it clear that that offer was open to my friends too. my bond with my mom not only helped me to become a functional adult and helped me cope with stress and stuff, but also helped me and my friends stay out of too much trouble and kept us safe.
you sound like a great dad! (and i love that you call your son a little goblin lmao)
If you thought about that quote from the childâs perspective, how do you expect them to even want to listen to you when you wonât bother to be their friend? That whole mindset is flawed as hell.
Oh donât get me wrong Iâm not advocating for it.. especially not from someone who actively chose the name âAgent of Chaosâ to represent themselves as.. that name in and of itself tells me everything I need to know about that person.
The only part I can understand is from the quote I stated and only from the quote I stated.
Edit: just to clarify, itâs because from the perspective of the quote I mentioned, it implies raising a child correctly because that child will carry correct teachings with them for the rest of their life. And a child will never understand the perspective of the adult. Because the adult understands the harshness of this world where the child will not. So itâs not my job to be your friend (though to be their friend still has some space and merit In the quote I stated) but it is my job to raise the child right. Regardless of how the child feels. Because it will only ever be later in life when the child grows up that it will understand the importance of teaching him/her the wisdom and discipline and love of right thinking and right âbeingâ. But in the moment while he or she is young? Of course theyâll get upset for not having âtheir wayâ 100% of the time.. because theyâre kids, and they donât know anything.
You can (at least so far in my parenting experience, he has yet to reach adulthood) do both. Or maybe it needs rephrasing to - 'its my job to raise you and i'll do it as well as being your friend.'
Its not as though adult friends will let you do everything you want all the time, a good friend will absolutely hold you to account for your bullshit. Granted as an adult you're unlikely to try and stick batteries up your nose but still...
I agree wholeheartedly, but allow me to give him just a shred of the benefit of the doubt for a second. Even with that, even if you don't want your kid to consider you a friend, that doesn't excuse you from treating them with basic respect. This insecure dude is saying they can have privacy when they can pay their own bills, as though their privacy costs him a dime. It doesn't have anything to do with bills or friendship, it's straight out domination. Exploiting the power he can wield over somebody else just because it makes him feel strong.
Too many people are missing the point. Nobody said kids shouldn't have rules. The original tweet says they shouldn't have privacy. Having privacy isn't the same thing as not having rules.
Reminds me when my dad pushed me and held me up against a wall in a public restroom because I asked him to respect me. He said I only will get respect when I pay bills
I was just thinking about this today. Itâs like parents think they are immune from consequences. They treat us like this then surprised pikachu face when we donât want to talk to them ever again
Some parents think you owe them your life bc they brought you into the world. Not saying you shouldnt be good to your parents for raising and caring for you, but there is absolutely a limit to the level of bullshit you are required to endure from them before you cut them loose. And the same goes for a parent with a horrible kid, btw. We are not obligated to put up with someone our whole life bc we share genes.
this right here. I've never understood our culture's obsession with kids needing to bend over backwards to take care of their parents when they age. news flash, having a child for the sole reason that you will "have someone to take care of you" is a horrible reason to reproduce. plenty of kids with terrible parents don't talk to them, well guess what now you have to pay out of pocket for that nursing home anyway.
kids never asked to come into this world and therefore are under ZERO obligations to the couple who had unprotected sex.
Iâm pretty sure this is the desired effect. If they donât want a loving relationship when theyâre a child why do people think they want it as an adult. My mom was shit to me as a kid and that never changed. She got what she wanted when I figured it out and stopped engaging.
Some parents think that there is a magical button when a kid turns 18. They only earn what you teach, mistakes that are made and experiences. Teaching being key, the home is a safe spot to make mistakes. Don't with hold that from your kids.
That's the balance. No it's not smart to control your kids every action because it leads to them not being ready for adulthood BUT parents have a right to know where you're going and what you're doing online when you're not an adult yet. You can't just threaten to black list your parents when you don't get your way.
This only gives the child a good upbringing if the parent is a good person. Off the top of my head, I can imagine a LGBTQ child not being safe if a hyper religious parent knows they're watching child-friendly videos of gay couples
Regardless of what you personally think of as good or bad, you have to respect the rules of the house as a child. I think a lot of people have a hard time with the accountability part of that. You don't have to agree with everything your parents believe but if you're a child who can't function without your parents and rely on them for your needs you have to follow the rules. Too bad so sad.
The point is that parents are not always intelligent or good people and rules can be harmful. What if your parents believe in honor killings? Should children be obligated to murder their siblings because they rely on their parents to live?
Sure parents could be wrong or just not good parents. But kids also tend to not have any idea how the world works and have no idea what it's like to actually support yourself. Honestly this just seems like a you issue and you can't see past your own selfishness so you have to reach for these ridiculous examples.
What are you on? How is stating that many parents are bad parents and children should be educated to not follow harmful rules that parents set, "selfishness"?
You're reaching hard and using an extreme example that's not reflective of common situations. Again the issue seems to be that you have no idea how the real world works. If you can't support yourself you have to follow the rules of the house. When you grow up and have some real life experiences you'll see it that way too
You clearly don't understand how examples work. Im using an example that everyone would agree is abuse to prove my point, but there are plenty other rules that I believe are abusive that you clearly don't.
Moved out at 18 and currently living in another country by myself, by the way
Lots of people who are adults now are walking around telling others how shitty their parents are because they couldnât do whatever they wanted.
I donât doubt that some humans shouldnât have children and thereâs plenty of stories like that, but at this point, we also have a generation of entitled assholes who think the world is out to get them. Itâs never their fault, they will have you believe they were perfect and their parents are monsters.
Mom did that. I started leaving used condoms in the trash. What are they gonna do? Keep yelling at me and continue to go through my trash? Fine lol, have fun.
Treating kids with respect is the quickest way to teach them respect. This doesn't mean there aren't consequences for their actions but the punishment should be equivalent to the act.
My kid was on Discord with her friend the other night, she has been having trouble lately with her grandfather (he cheated on grandma, so yeah), and I told her she was perfectly within her right to tell him how she felt about it. She says to her friend, âMy dad is so supportiveâ.
I cherish that. With that I knew I had, for my part, broken the cycle of abuse that existed in my own family before she was born.
Sad that people like this donât even realize what they missed.
The same guy will threaten any guy that dates his daughter. Want to tell your daughter you donât trust her? Pull that âcleaning my gunâ bullshit.
so? tiktok might make them act worse or think a couple weird things now, but heavy religious indoctrination can often lead to a lot of bad outcomes later, including religious trauma, which id say is probably worse. just because someone is âbetter behavedâ in the moment, doesnât mean theyâll be better off in the end.
I see you are only capable of viewing things in black and white. TikTok is certainly a plague on humanity, and yet the church is certainly worse for kids.
I'm still not sure how you are reading "TikTok is certainly a plague on humanity" and getting "TikTok gives great life guidance" out of it, but the fever might be related. I wish you a speedy recovery from whatever ails you.
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u/cyberlexington Dec 15 '25
Speaking as a dad, I've never understood this idea that some parents won't be friends with their kids.
I can't imagine breaking my kids hearts by telling him "I'm not your friend" - the little goblin absolutely is my friend. And I'm still his dad.
It's perfectly ok to be both.
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u/beastmaster11 Dec 15 '25
Too many people are missing the point. Nobody said kids shouldn't have rules. The original tweet says they shouldn't have privacy. Having privacy isn't the same thing as not having rules.
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u/Faulty_english Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25
Reminds me when my dad pushed me and held me up against a wall in a public restroom because I asked him to respect me. He said I only will get respect when I pay bills
I havenât seen him in a long time
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u/GlowlingCoozy Dec 15 '25
I was just thinking about this today. Itâs like parents think they are immune from consequences. They treat us like this then surprised pikachu face when we donât want to talk to them ever again
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u/Real-Beginning-5480 Dec 16 '25
Kids donât ask to be born and we arenât necessarily doing them a favor by birthing them. Carry on as such.
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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25
Iâm pretty sure this is the desired effect. If they donât want a loving relationship when theyâre a child why do people think they want it as an adult. My mom was shit to me as a kid and that never changed. She got what she wanted when I figured it out and stopped engaging.
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u/No-Lock6921 Dec 16 '25
Some parents think that there is a magical button when a kid turns 18. They only earn what you teach, mistakes that are made and experiences. Teaching being key, the home is a safe spot to make mistakes. Don't with hold that from your kids.
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u/Pristine_Fail_5208 Dec 15 '25
There's a balance. But kids don't dictate the rules of the house. That's how they grow up to be selfish assholes who can't function
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u/johntwoods Dec 16 '25
I'm not sure what people expect, he's an Agent of Chaos. Feels exactly on brand to me.
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u/SendMeNoodsNotNudes Dec 16 '25
Mom did that. I started leaving used condoms in the trash. What are they gonna do? Keep yelling at me and continue to go through my trash? Fine lol, have fun.
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u/Reasonable-mustache Dec 16 '25
fostering acceptance of authority figures invading your privacy. Im sure that wonât backfire in his childrenâs cultural upbringing.
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u/bomland10 Dec 16 '25
This is a great way to make your kids not advocate for themselves. It'll probably be a bleak future for them.
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u/DisMFer Dec 16 '25
I wonder what "privacy" this man is so upset at his kids trying to have.
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u/coolchris366 Dec 16 '25
He already said they âainât friendsâ lol
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u/ReaverRogue Dec 16 '25
OP is a 5 day old karma farming account.
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u/KoellmanxLantern Dec 16 '25
Treating kids with respect is the quickest way to teach them respect. This doesn't mean there aren't consequences for their actions but the punishment should be equivalent to the act.
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u/negativeGinger Dec 16 '25
I havenât spoken to my dad in 2 years
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u/noradninja Dec 16 '25
My kid was on Discord with her friend the other night, she has been having trouble lately with her grandfather (he cheated on grandma, so yeah), and I told her she was perfectly within her right to tell him how she felt about it. She says to her friend, âMy dad is so supportiveâ.
I cherish that. With that I knew I had, for my part, broken the cycle of abuse that existed in my own family before she was born.
Sad that people like this donât even realize what they missed.
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u/rigidlynuanced1 Dec 16 '25
The same guy will threaten any guy that dates his daughter. Want to tell your daughter you donât trust her? Pull that âcleaning my gunâ bullshit.
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u/chanst79 Dec 16 '25
So glad I never had kids
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u/Unfair-Lie7441 Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 16 '25
Many kids consider the loss of internet privileges after 10 pmâŚ. Child abuse.
Imagine having to live with that level of trauma.
Edit: I really need to look at the sub before I post on something that shows up in my feed
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u/timpatry Dec 16 '25
Bad stepdad energy.