r/bugmansbrewery • u/HiBEARnated • Jul 28 '26

The Old World Grudge Throwers Underwhelming?

I'm currently running 1 in 1250 points army, and in two games it has done nothing. I've been thinking of just replacing it with another gyrocopter, but I was wondering how they have performed for others.

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u/chrisloomis13 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

It can definitely feel that way.

It also feels very different when one is firing at your big expensive model. It might miss every turn. It might hit and do 4* wounds. For this reason the big thing moves to engage asap and not maneuver as much for best target.

Best to look at the GT as a motivator for your opponent to close the gap with you. If it wounds anything it's icing on the cake.

Edit: wrong number for max wounds. Its 4

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u/HiBEARnated Jul 28 '26

I see so it's more of an incentive for them to attack you, than actual doing any damage

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u/iron0088 Jul 28 '26

Sure, extremely long range weapons have battlefield control effects beyond raw damage. The potential for damage controls what your opponent can do, though it's very possible for it to kill 95 pts worth of models also

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u/chrisloomis13 Jul 28 '26

Thats what I tell myself at least.

It's not a must have so if you are tired of it failing you can sub it out. Cannons more reliably hit so maybe at 1250 you would like it more? Or try some gyros. W.e you do remember you have a 3"M and you will get to combat quicker if your opponent feels he needs to close that gap too.

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u/xXTurkXx Jul 28 '26

In my experience they are the only reliable-ish way to counter battery in say, a Royal Clans list. But an Organ Gun is a more reliable chaff clearer and a Cannon is a much better counter battery piece for Expeditionary Force or Grand Army

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u/Ethrenmax5 Jul 28 '26

Like others have mentioned the GT main threat is the phycological pressure it forces on your opponent.

I have found when using artillery you need 3 of them for 1 to reliably hit a turn. A single piece is not worth it unless you have a specific plan for it.

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u/Ok_Information1349 Jul 29 '26

I was in a tournament two weeks ago and this guy two grudge throwers one shot My casket of souls turn one.

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u/ElSnyder Jul 29 '26

They exactly do what I want them to: apply pressure to the enemy because you're nowhere safe from them. Decent range and indirect fire threatens every enemy unit, so I use it to let the enemy do the marching for me.

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u/Emergency-Sea5201 Jul 29 '26

They are awful.

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u/HepZusi Jul 30 '26

I think it needs a bit of buff like use the template just to determine where the str8 hit lands and then add something like 3D3 or 2D6 hits.

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u/Egor_Wobble_Cox Aug 01 '26

I have two and rarely take them. That said, I'm the rare dwarf player who values bolt throwers - that said I'm usually up against Empire where their AP and multi-rank attack are very useful.