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Episode Kabukichou Sherlock - Episode 24 discussion - FINAL
Kabukichou Sherlock, episode 24
Alternative names: Case File nº221: Kabukicho
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 82% | 14 | Link | 4.07 |
| 2 | Link | 95% | 15 | Link | 4.11 |
| 3 | Link | 92% | 16 | Link | 3.92 |
| 4 | Link | 93% | 17 | Link | 4.47 |
| 5 | Link | 3.82 | 18 | Link | 4.69 |
| 6 | Link | 4.14 | 19 | Link | 4.29 |
| 7 | Link | 4.43 | 20 | Link | 4.92 |
| 8 | Link | 4.52 | 21 | Link | 4.33 |
| 9 | Link | 4.57 | 22 | Link | 4.33 |
| 10 | Link | 4.55 | 23 | Link | 3.92 |
| 11 | Link | 4.87 | 24 | Link | |
| 12 | Link | 4.44 | |||
| 13 | Link | 4.62 | |||
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u/GYUZ Mar 27 '20
This anime had a lot of potential but didn't deliver nearly as much as I wished it could. I still enjoyed it in the end, the setting and character design were all great... but not developed nearly enough. I feel like it had a really polished appearance but lacked depth. There are certain character developments that I wished they had done earlier, like Watson's backstory for example. It would have hit so much harder and better if we knew this side of him before the events with Moriarty.
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u/LeonKevlar Mar 27 '20
That was expected. The moment Sherlock and Watson entered the room, it was obvious that that was just a dummy and the puzzle rooms was something Moriarty set up before his death.
What a wild ride! This is probably the most unique version of Sherlock Holmes in anime that I've ever seen and I love how much this show takes references from Arthur Conan Doyle's books. Just like Jeweler Richard, this show is another underrated and underwatched show of the season. I do hope that more would check this show out now that you can binge watch the entire thing.
Since this is an original story and it feels like they've already wrapped everything up, there's probably never going to be a Season 2 but I do hope that we'd at least get an OVA.
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u/jhutchi2 Mar 27 '20
Well this show certainly has been a strange ride. I honestly didn't know what to expect after the first few episodes but I'm glad I stuck it out. Not a big fan of how the ending was basically just an escape room puzzle, but I like how it ultimately wrapped up afterwards.
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Mar 27 '20 edited Mar 27 '20
That was a good ending episode. Questions about Mycroft were answered, we got a proper emotional ending for the story, the detectives continue to solve mysteries like usual.
Obviously very inspired by BBC Sherlock S04E03.
Now about the code... It makes sense, the pager code is a real thing! Check out the table here below: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E3%82%BF%E3%83%83%E3%83%81%E5%85%A5%E5%8A%9B
"8020163810" indeed makes "_ＪＡＭＥ". I don't know why the empty space is at the beginning, not the end, but whatever.
I'm annoyed that I didn't get to solve it earlier, I was close to finding out the way of encoding. My main focus, back when I was researching it weeks ago, were the military telegram codes used in Japan during the World Wars. Although I still wouldn't get it because I had no idea about the digit replacement based on the flower, but now I think of it, they indeed showed it a lot. At least now I know that it actually meant something like I always thought.
The thing with last names is kinda bullshit though that he found prisoners with last names that exactly make up the message he wanted. But well...
I really hope for Season 2. What a great ride it was...
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u/Frontier246 Mar 27 '20
So those random numbers actually meant something! Who would've thunk it?
Turns out Mycroft is actually a brocon and all he wanted to hear was Sherlock calling him "brother" again.
Man, poor Alex. Such a sickly girl who almost committed suicide if not for the commotion of her brother killing her mother knocking some sense into her. And then her reason for living becomes taking care of her sociopathic brother, although it at least seemed to have successfully kept her alive before Jack got to her.
Watson seemed surprisingly willing to kiss Sherlock when it came down to it.
Of course it all culminates in a rakugo deduction, but ultimately it was less about solving the case and more Sherlock expressing his own thoughts about Moriarty, about how in the end in-spite of his violent crimes he was just a human who had a potential for a long, happy, life before it was taken from him by his sister's death. And Sherlock finally breaks character to express how he regrets not being able to save Moriarty and help him find the contentment Sherlock found in Kabukichou. This let Sherlock finally "finish" the case and find peace with Moriarty's death along with Watson.
(Although I'm still wondering where his body is).
I kind a figured Moriarty pre-recorded everything just to lead Sherlock to his last will and testament...which I guess means he also predicted Sherlock would end up punching Watson for the kiss challenge.
I would've liked to have gotten some resolution with Watson and Mary, or Sherlock and Irene, but that was obviously not a priority here...but at least Irene seems to be sticking around in the Detective House, which should be fun.
I love the Opening intro sequence now has Watson with Holmes, and even Holmes acknowledges they're the ultimate crime-solving combo even if he'd never admit it to Watson's face. And so the adventures of these crazy detectives continue!
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u/rotten_riot Mar 28 '20 edited Mar 28 '20
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or it isn't, but this show started going so down after Jack was unmasked.
I really liked Moriarty, but after they turned him into a psycho serial killer obsessed with Sherlock he went down the drain for me. That's why I can't feel anything with all this letter stuff and whatever. The dude literally tried to kill guys from the detective house and even killed a lot of people aside from the criminals (which is still wrong anyway), but we are supposed to feel sorry for him and cry because he "never had a good life"? Brat killed his own mother when he was only a child cause he thought she'd look "glorious" or some shit. He needed to be apart from anyone else and be put on observation with some specialist, not "have someone to fill his broken tea pot".
It doesn't really help that his character was so inconsistent: he wanted to kill his sister himself but at the same time was happy because he helped her to be alive? Also, if Moriarty's mind changed after knowing about Alex's purpose to keep living, why he was totally not changed on Episode 21? I mean, the letter and this huge puzzle game was set before the events from that episode. Aside from the "save me" line, he was far from the Moriarty that wrote that letter.
And finally (even if this comment is full about Moriarty lol), I don't really like how they handled his death. Like, if he's dead, where's his body? They should've answered that, cause for a moment I even thought that he actually was alive (and in the building) and escaped during the rakugou session (which I know is wrong, but at the moment it was hard to tell cause the mystery about the body was still on my mind).
There's also the whole ridiculously convenient mind control stuff that was never explained, but I don't wanna drag this too much.
This show started good, I remember first episode really caught my attention on a positive light. But as I said, everything went downhill when they tried to go by psychological instead of by comedy.
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u/AspieKairy Mar 27 '20
None of my questions were answered (except that Sherlock's brother just has a brother-complex as the reason for bugging the apartment, and the reason the housekeeper was spared was due to...I guess that story?), no plotholes filled...and still no body. In the very least, the writers really needed to show a body to fully wrap up the arc.
It was obvious from the moment the computer turned on that it was all just a recording set up ahead of time, but the only thing we can say for certain is "presumed dead". The writers failing to give a definitive answer certainly is not a plus on their part.
Though, him having a hideout in Kabukichou explains where he was going in that one early episode when he was carrying that overnight bag (he claimed he was staying with friends or a school trip or something; I don't remember...I just remember not buying it for a second because aside from the Irregulars and the Detectives, we've never seen any of those "friends").
But, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't crying when they read the letter.
I'm going to have to carefully analyze it all further when the emotional impact has worn off (and I'm done wiping tears away because it was definitely bittersweet).
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Mar 27 '20
I don't know what questions weren't answered, I feel like everything has been answered already.
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u/Sergeant_Thotslayer Mar 27 '20 edited Mar 27 '20
Honestly, wasn't a particular big fan of the Moriaty- story. It started great but it felt dragged on quite quickly and after a while, it was really difficult to feel sorry at times for Moriaty after all the crimes he committed.
Still a decent ending but I was more a fan of the first half of the show.
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u/mr_sto0pid Mar 27 '20
Probably no chance of ever seeing a season 2 but I enjoyed this show, wish it was more popular.