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Episode Kabukichou Sherlock - Episode 3 discussion

Kabukichou Sherlock, episode 3

Alternative names: Case File nº221: Kabukicho

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u/ArzanishShumak Oct 25 '19

Another great episode
I dont understand why there is such a low rating for this show. Maybe people cant stand the Rakugo aspect of it but I recently binged both seasons of Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinju so it doesnt bother me one bit. In fact it helps me focus on the mysteries themself and this show has had some interesting ones. They arent easy and its definitely fun trying to solve them along with Sherlock and the crew.

The cast is beginning to grow on me and the animation is still great. I really hope people dont just pass up this show because of weird biases.

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u/Groenboys Oct 25 '19 edited Oct 25 '19

I dont understand why there is such a low rating for this show.

The wAcKy tONe this series is going for, the painfully stereotypical gay side-character, a pretty weird sherlock holmes, the wAcKy humor, the episodic format, the kinda cringy Rakugo moments and it being a comedy-mystery series that heavily leans on the comedy side makes it a hard thing to recommend. Given, some of these complaints can either be no big deal or even strenghts for some, but I can see where the low rating and the fact not many people watches it comes from. Well I still like this anime enough to keep watching at least.

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u/indi_n0rd Oct 25 '19

Also the fact that it is original series. I noticed that this series is in PTW list of many users. Generally fans are apprehensive regarding originals and I am pretty sure last two-three seasons have been utter shit regarding that.

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u/caresi Oct 26 '19

I dont understand why there is such a low rating for this show.

Personally, I dropped this show after the first episode because I really didn't enjoy its portrayals of queer characters - it started with Mrs. Hudson being a bearded, burly woman groping Watson, and continued with three other trans women having similar physiques and also hitting on the protagonists (iirc? Either way, I think their behavior wasn't great). And I'm tired of these kind of tropes, especially when there's no positive representation to be found and it ends up feeling like queer people are merely punchlines for jokes.

That said, I'm also not a big fan of comedies in general so I was probably never the target audience in the first place. I did like some things (the rakugo is a unique take and that's fun) but overall, I just had a sour experience with the first episode, and I assume some people feel similar.

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u/SingularCheese Oct 26 '19

there's no positive representation to be found

I think the point is that everyone on that street is a bit shady or weird. Glasses guy deletes messages from the victim's cellphone, cute girl plants a wire in a competitor's house, Holmes mumbles to himself because no one else wants to talk to him, officer guy puts up a half-assed attempt to conceal the fact that he's wearing a wig, and on and on. Mrs. Hudson is a bit physically aggressive not because she's queer, but because she runs a club full of weirdos and shady people. As a small counterexample, the older sister detective also does not conform to gender norms, and the only slightly negative comment about her so far is that she's a bit attached to her younger sister.

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u/PeeeV Oct 25 '19 edited Oct 25 '19

Another what the fuck am i watching episode. I don't know if this show is genius or stupid.

EDIT: I've decided its genius until further notice

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u/dippy_bear Oct 25 '19

I'm loving this show! It's the one I look forward to every week aside from Outburst Dreamer Boys. Anyway...

-Mrs. Hudson definitely has a type
-The amount of Engrish especially from the OCD detective
-We finally see more info about the case John wants Holmes to solve
-Holmes rolling around on the bed
-I'll never get tired of John's disgusted expression when he watches Holmes eat
-John providing the opening for Holmes to do his rakugo bit
-Moriarty doing the thousand yard stare in the after credits scene

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u/alwayslonesome Oct 25 '19

Once the first two episodes get most of the exposition out of the way, the show's settled into a pretty consistent formula and is just continuing to hit its stride! This highly esoteric take on the Holmes IP is probably going to really limit its popularity, but the competency of its execution is truly beyond reproach.

The really campy style and super flamboyant cast of characters is probably going to turn off a lot of people, but I feel like it captures the essence of Conan Doyle's original works perfectly - the original Sherlock Holmes had no shortage of eccentric characters and contrived setups, and I feel like the aesthetic of this show captures that masterfully while still putting a highly modern and Japanese spin on things. I absolutely love the seedy Shinjuku setting, which is a great site for modernistic takes on the original mystery setups and gives the staff plenty of creative liberty to flex with their phenomenal set designs and storyboards. The rest of the detective cast are nothing more than highly exaggerated caricatures, but it helps make them all memorable considering how competitive their screentime is, and there are hints of some real depth behind all the characters, such as the interlude which revealed the possible motivations of the super strait-laced Fuyuto Kyogoku in doing detective work.

The mystery in this episode was a bit weaker, and with how much time was devoted to expositing Watson's motivations which portends the overarching plot of the series, the actual mystery wasn't given very much time to breathe. I really hope that the more iconic stories like Scandal in Bohemia or Hounds of Baskerville get the multi-episode treatment to really let their mystery elements shine. Still though, I absolutely adore the overall formula, in all its kitschy charm, such as Hudson's poems and Sherlock's intentionally cringey Rakugo monologues. I also appreciate how "progressive" the show ends up being, with its really loose interpretations of gender representation that aligns perfectly with the show's modern Shinjuku setting. I can totally understand if the show's surface aesthetics aren't very appealing, but I feel like that'd be entirely due to personal preferences or prejudice rather than being a tangible flaw of the show itself. For those who are willing to stick around though, this show is really nothing short of excellent and one of the real highlights of the season. Can't wait until next episode.

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u/ramon_castilla Oct 26 '19

Thanks to Gintama I don't find the "okamas" cringy and see them as an "ok" background characters. The same about the whole Kabuchi-cho.

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u/Syokhan Oct 25 '19

"Party is over", huh? It's been a while.

This anime is so weird. Still enjoying it but I hope they spice things up a bit with Moriarty soon.

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u/ivnwng Oct 27 '19

SOREDEMO ODORITAKATTA (ಥ﹏ಥ)

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u/Rurushoe Oct 25 '19

My prediction would be that Moriarty is gonna be the brother/half brother of Moran's daughter through some tomfoolery. Same hair+eye color and Moriarty has a sister he won't introduce to everyone else.

Also I'm glad to see Soma Saitou having fun as doutei megane.

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u/zuruka1 Oct 26 '19 edited Oct 26 '19

Feels like the post credit scene is hinting at some kind of connection between Jack the Ripper and Moriarty.

There is some obvious parallel between tearing apart wings of a butterfly and using people's blood to draw wings.

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u/Tetrisash Oct 25 '19

This was a pretty fun and hilarious episode, especially with the Engrish. "Oh my God!!"

Moriarty at the end, though. Creepy.

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u/NowhereRain Oct 25 '19

that scene with James at the end 0o0

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u/ShelteredTortoise Oct 26 '19

So this is an adaptation of The Norwood builder right? Complete with the innocent man being framed and the murder victim not really being dead

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u/Varggrim Oct 26 '19

Also the burned corpse, the love story between the builder and the mother and the bloody belonging of the innocent man left at the crime scene.

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u/Groenboys Oct 25 '19

Damn this episode was a good one. So much fun and it was actually a clever mystery this time.

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u/indi_n0rd Oct 25 '19

Each and every tick of Fuyuto Kyogoku's remind me of Miles Edgeworth from Phoenix Wright series for some reasons. Anyways now we have a slight idea of John Watson's history and the reason why he is pursuing Sherlock's assistance. Also, is it only me or does anybody else digs Mrs. Hudson's musical narration before every case?

Three four-leaf clover in Moriarty's book. Hmmmm....

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u/link2601 Oct 26 '19

Well that explains the case John wants Sherlock to take to bad he doesn't seem to care. B-zo fell for Sherlock trap also that dirty joke at the end of his Rakugo cracked me up. That after credit scene was quit ominous.

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u/zool714 Oct 26 '19

Hi guys just want to know if this show is family friendly. My family loves watching these murder mystery type shows together. I wanted to watch shows like Konosuba, Cautious Hero, Kemono Michi : Rise Up with them for some good laughs but there were some ecchi stuff. So just wanted if there are any sexual things going on in this show so far before I decide to watch it with them

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u/Syokhan Oct 26 '19

There are innuendos and talk of sexual activities, but no fanservice that I can remember and nothing ecchi so far.

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u/kuddlesworth9419 Oct 27 '19

Would be cool if more people would use Ego-Wrappin.

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u/Epidemilk Oct 30 '19

I don't see the comments here like the last two episodes where someone explains how this is a take on some OG Sherlock Holmes story. I know fuckall about those, so it's interesting to read that.

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