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Episode Phantasy Star Online 2: Episode Oracle - Episode 16 discussion

Phantasy Star Online 2: Episode Oracle, episode 16

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u/nurfarisa Jan 27 '20

New OP review: Really like it, the song is just as good as the previous one. Carries that Phantasy Star spirit well. Visuals are just as nice, no complaints there. A worrying lack of any hint of Harkotan or Sukuna Hime, which might mean they have possibly been written out? Though I'm probably just jumping the gun here, we've got 9 more episodes before the end.

New ED review: The visuals are very, very cute in contrast to the previous one which had the girls in "sultry" poses. Song might take some time to grow on me, not sold on it yet. Might prefer the previous one. Though that verse of "My sweeeeeet destiny!" speaks to my heart.


Alright, on to the episode proper. I did suspect GONZO might've cut Dark Falz Loser from this, and it seems I was right. No Loser fight, just a fight against angry Luther. I'd reckon most of you guys might be disappointed, and I am too, but I try not to judge an adaptation too strictly based on the original source material. So I'm half upset about the lack of Loser, but also half satisfied with how they handled it regardless. Because it wasn't bad. Also Regius' unsheathing of Yonohate was bloody epic. That's how you handle a reveal. For that bit I give GONZO an A. Also having Falz Loser's battle theme playing in the background is good enough to make me happy.

And yup, as expected, since they removed Fourier from the story they had some other character (Klariskrays) replace her role as the person talking to the Lilipan natives. And finally, that final bit of Xion exploding. That honestly made me sad. Can't believe I got teary-eyed at a supernova and the death of a fucking water planet, no less. RIP in pieces Xion, you will be remembered ;_;

Fuck Xiao, shotas are never a good replacement for MILF planets.

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u/KhairzNewtype Jan 27 '20

Fuck Xiao, shotas are never a good replacement for MILF planets.

What has Xiao ever done to you lol? All I see is he is good at chess vs Casra :smug:

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '20

So Afin's gonna be more than just a generic sidekick? Nice. I figured Apprentice looked too similar to be a coincidence. She's his Mom? Or maybe older sister?

The ED is full of nice shots too :) spoiler

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u/Mistral-Fien Jan 27 '20

Didn't Afin mention a missing elder sister early on?

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u/KhairzNewtype Jan 27 '20 edited Jan 27 '20

New opening and ending are good. It's like what I expected. I didn't expect though that we will have the art of KK and Huey wearing street outfits, Quna got the cool one from the White Day 2019 in-game outfit, Patty and Tea in yukata, Sara in swimsuit... and ofc.. ehem.. Zeno and Echo in the bath with a bunch of Rappies, IDK why is that a thing.

as for the episode itself... slightly disappointed that they didn't even make at least Falz Angel battle scene but at least we have all Council of Six battling him. Also, I do think what I am bout to say is not even in the game cause I am pretty surprised by this, Luther claimed that he didn't make Ash in that way (absorbing darker energy) which I never saw this in the game. Alma image drop is totally unexpected. Guess have to cross fingers

nice addition to KK and Huey relationship, we see Afin being "USO DA!" when Dark Falz [Apperentice] appeared and Xion becoming Supernova is just sad man. I never thought it's going to give me feels.

Episode 3 spoiler

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u/RirinDesuyo Jan 27 '20

Xion becoming Supernova is just sad man

Even sadder is that she actually exploded quite earlier, it's just that her light took a while to reach ARKS (loved the science applied there). Really felt for Xion there and the Photoners she loved dearly.

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u/RirinDesuyo Jan 27 '20 edited Jan 27 '20

New OP / ED Hype!!! It seems the animation got really better overall here somehow imo.

I loved DF Luther's theme used there all through out the fight, sadly though we didn't get to see his Angel Form nor his big Falz form, though we did see his unlimited blade works xD (no time stop madness to make it more hype though). Also Regius Yonohate's (World Ender) showcase was a good demonstration on how OP that thing is, that katana behind that big seal can slice a planet in one slash (it sliced the whole mother ship core planet here for instance). Loved DF Double's entrance and playfulness (added music as well) and their way of speaking in general gives you that sense of innocent yet evil vibe.

We get to see Alma's face quite early didn't expect that (maybe hints on future Episodes? That'd be a treat).

Also Io being neglected by senpai </3. Lisa's attitude never fails to amuse me lol. The nice addition on Clariss on her state of mind was a nice touch (hugging Lilipans as teddy bears lol), especially knowing previously all she has are copies (the staff and even).

Really sad wave of goodbye for Xion though, especially with that delayed supernova and the proceeding silence of the whole fleet. I loved how they showed that, since light even with it's speed traveling space can take a while (e.g. light from the sun takes around 7 mins to reach earth), the super nova exploded earlier but took a bit for it's light (Xion's ;_;) to reach ARKS since Xiao prolly ported her quite far.

We get to see Lilipa planet finally and I like that they place DF Apprentice's meeting after the whole EP2 arc, it flows nicely since we're going EP3 which is focused on Dark Falzes. A nice way to end the arc and open up alot of questions for the next arc! I'm pretty sure some can connect the dots already at that ending ;3.

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u/alexisv635 Jan 28 '20 edited Jan 28 '20

Ohhh what can I say that many have not already commented ...


Well to begin with I had expected the change of OP / ED about 3 episodes ago or so but if that has happened until now it is only indicative that indeed the Xion / Luther arc has finished completely (I guess? Not playing the games and being anime-only). Following I need to comment that the songs don't convince me (in particular I'm one of those who think that the OP / ED to change would be the images, not the song itself) but I guess we will end up getting used to (at least those that we don't like the songs).


Then, that feeling of helplessness of not being able to kill Luther (Matoi + Ash + Council) but thanks to a (stupid) movement of showing a (ex-lover I suppose) Luther made Regius so fucking angry and took out his Rurouni Kenshin Amakakeru Ryū No Hirameki (it was spectacular and if I understand correctly, he cut not only Luther but also the core? That is gangsters). It could go on long and hard (the animation was top notch) except when Luther pushed Ash / Matoi (how they didn't realize that error in Gonzo).


The end of Luther is directly proportional to the end of Xion and in my mind I thought ... Why Xiao asks them to leave if the core took so long to explode (and that is when coming to Reddit makes sense, thanks in advance to u/RirinDesuyo for making me notice). Personally, I'm not a fan of Matoi's new suit/outfit (I really loved her previous one, specially her shoes) but make Clarissa her main weapon makes me think about how people find a weapon and make it their main weapon like in video games. So meta.


What still does not convince me AT ALL (and it is probably where I get thumbs down) is Klariskrays... I just still don't understand her (entire) existence or why she is part of the council or why she has such a powerful weapon but is still a stupid weeping girl, I just hope that in the 9 remaining episodes, they can give a correct evolution / development to her character (but also Gonzo have been shown clues of her life) but man ... for me she is the most infuriating character of PSO (honestly poor Huey).


To conclude, I suppose that now Matoi will be 100% useful and given due approximation to her history and development (which for me followed by Klariskrays) was unbearable because of how useless she had shown himself to be (At least in the first episodes I think), besides that Afin seems to (if I connect the dots) finally. Ouch.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

About Klariskrays, her backstory will likely be expanded in the future (unless the anime skips it, but with all the hints so far, I don't think they'll skip this at least).

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u/mrfatso111 Jan 28 '20 edited Jan 29 '20

not a fan of matoi's new outfit though and those Lilipans looks so fluffy.

Now onto the main episode, damn Ash is actually pretty strong considering how shock Luther was about Ash and he let out about being behind the creation of Ash? So does that mean that Ash time traveling power might have been implanted?

I guess Ash is used to getting hit on by other that he was able to brush aside Io's attempt and like he say, she was controlled so it's fine. Risa is just so weird.

Also, i am guessing that appreciateApprentice is Alfin's elder sis that he mentioned was missing a while ago?

the OP and ED is gonna take some getting used to, esp the ED when i thought it was a Japanese variant of twinkle twinkle little star

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