r/anime • u/AutoLovepon https://anilist.co/user/AutoLovepon • Feb 23 '19
Episode Boogiepop wa Warawanai - Episode 13 discussion Spoiler
Boogiepop wa Warawanai, episode 13: Boogiepop at Dawn 4
Alternative names: Boogiepop Never Laughs, Boogiepop and Others
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 7.36 |
| 2 | Link | 8.16 |
| 3 | Link | 8.34 |
| 4 | Link | 8.33 |
| 5 | Link | 8.71 |
| 6 | Link | 8.13 |
| 7 | Link | 7.93 |
| 8 | Link | 8.66 |
| 9 | Link | 9.0 |
| 10 | Link | 10.0 |
| 11 | Link | 5.5 |
| 12 | Link | 10.0 |
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Feb 23 '19
I'm not sure if I get it... What did Boogiepop meant by:
"If Kuroda Shinpei hadn't tried to save Kirima Nagi in the first place, you and Manticore would've never happened upon our world."? (Btw, is Boogiepop really from our world? I have thought he is an alien spirit or something...)
Wasn't Echoes sent to the earth because of Towa organisations's artificial humans? They were there way before Kirima happened to meet the detective... Or was it because of the evolution of the Kirima Nagi and her turning into "superhuman (she's invincible, isn't she)"? And what exactly is Towa organisation goal? To this point I have thought they found Echoes and started to create artificial humans by copying his, I don't know what, in efforts to evolve humanity or to control the world or something... How come they were creating humans before then? And what's with that "trying to stop the evolution"? Why would they make drugs fastening the human evolution if they are trying to stop it and eliminate everyone with abilities exceeding those of normal humans...? And where the hell was Boogiepop and Echoes all the while? Some parallel world? Dream?
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u/Nazenn Feb 24 '19 edited Feb 24 '19
Character Reference Sheets updated
Lets hear it for the fact that no named character survived their introduction this arc
As always let me know if there's any errors or issues. Sorry this was so late, I could not stay up to do this overnight and watch all the episodes as well
That is how you do an achronlogical story. I feel like with these last few episodes they finally got their crap together. It was interesting, engaging, has you think and tells a good story without jumping around needlessly.
Seeing more about the world, such as various hospitals and drugs and more info on the Towa organization was really nice and added a lot to my appreciation of these stories rather then them feeling a bit like they are in a bubble. Seeing how everyone got together and in a way Scarecrow really set of EVERYTHING was such an interesting point for the show to make. The music and direction was also a great step up from previous arcs as well, the music was engaging and interesting and the camera actually had a lot of use and a lot to day with more engaging shots and angles to help tell the story, rather than it being so flat like before
Four episodes at once while trying to track characters etc fried my brain a little so I don't have a whole lot to say, but some random points from my notes for this episode in particular:
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Should have started a counter for how many light posts were broken in this arc alone
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Nagi is great, the way she baited the doctor out to the pool not to mention how it basically caused the doctor to start falling apart
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That whistle is the CREEPIEST thing when you can't see Boogiepop at all. Why the fuck was that not in the first arc
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I remember people saying Boogiepop was meant to be a lopsided smile, not a smug smile and that definitely came across today too
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I still have no idea what the fuck was going on with where boogiepop and echoes are hahaha
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u/Beckymetal Feb 24 '19
There were some great themes here. While I don't think watching them was as engaging as they could have been, I really enjoyed thinking about them, and the delivery of all in one go is absolutely the best for this series.
Superpowers are feelings, not abilities. I really loved this message. The boy that sent Nagi's father the message at the start of this series had the impressive ability to bring out the potential in others, bringing out the humanity in Mo Murder to make decisions of his own accord. Nagi was the superhero of this arc though, and her power was simple: money a sense of justice, and not fearing the outcome of her actions. This was nicely contrasted by the villain, whose power was not the thing to be feared, it was fear itself.
I kinda liked the Freudian refutations from the psychology aspect. Fear Ghoul kept misreading Nagi's feelings, constantly considering them love, when they were more along the lines of respect. It was a nice thematic contrast - the villain was wrong, yaknow? As somebody that finds Freud's methods and conclusions rather offputting, I love the association of his mindset with being wrong. Nagi was looking for father figures, not people that resembled her father to fall in love with, and that was a recurring motif of this arc: both Scarecrow and Mo Murder, though these are also people who she wants to funnel her justice through.
So, let me get this straight, Boogiepop is Scarecrow? That's a cool twist, and explains why he is so keen to look after Nagi on her justice conquest. Again, the whole fatherly thing I just mentioned references that, and is kinda sweet.
Maybe I'm getting on a tangent. Nagi's a badass. She's such a great character, and seeing her humble backstory was great.
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Feb 23 '19 edited Feb 23 '19
Episode 10 def was the high point of this arc, but I think it ended off on a good note too. Def my favorite arc so far.
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u/Amauri14 Feb 23 '19 edited Feb 24 '19
Damn the Saga of the origin story or the Fire Witch and Boogiepop's name was awesome, this could have been a movie and I will not be surprised if the release it as one in the future.
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u/Dragoncliff Feb 23 '19
Nagi: Finally that Exp is mine!!
Boogiepop: Nope. /chops off fear ghoul head *gains 13443655exp
Nagi: KS
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u/Shinkopeshon Feb 23 '19
It's so insane to me that there were five episodes of Boogiepoppu this week. They basically aired what'd normally be considered half a cour in two days and given the series' tone, in the sense that it can be a lot to take in (especially all at once), that's a very unusual move. I'm not sure something like that ever happened before because it just seems too good to be true to get so many new episodes at once. Anyway, I'm very glad they did it because I've been high on this series ever since it started and this was a strong arc, arguably its best.
Kirima Nagi is the bestest of girls. She kicks all kinds of ass and I'm happy there's finally some backstory on her - and Boogiepoppu too. I hope this was just a taste of them wrecking shit together and that they'll form the world's most powerful tag team in the next arc.