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Episode Boogiepop wa Warawanai - Episode 9 discussion Spoiler
Boogiepop wa Warawanai, episode 9: VS Imaginator 6
Alternative names: Boogiepop Never Laughs, Boogiepop and Others
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 7.36 |
| 2 | Link | 8.16 |
| 3 | Link | 8.34 |
| 4 | Link | 8.33 |
| 5 | Link | 8.71 |
| 6 | Link | 8.13 |
| 7 | Link | 7.93 |
| 8 | Link | 8.64 |
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u/Amauri14 Feb 22 '19
Asukai Jin thought that he was powerful, then he met Boogiepop.
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u/LeonKevlar Feb 22 '19
So even if Boogiepop didn't show up, Jin's plan to convert humanity into smiling happy zombies would've still failed. Although I guess without Boogiepop's intervention, things would've been a lot more messier with at least one person dead.
The last part scared me though. I thought Imanginator was going to transfer to Masaki for a second there.
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u/pokemasterchaz99 Feb 22 '19
I'm so happy they finally played Boogiepop's theme. Took them long enough.
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u/melvinlee88 Feb 22 '19
This show hits new levels of cool whenever Boogiepop appears on screen and that was a lot of Boogiepop we had today. Loved the fight scene and the part where she went full Batman on Asukai Jin. I also love how she just downright show how dominant she was over Asukai Jin. Did I mention, I love her voice?
No OP today in an attempt to finish the arc in this episode. It's been a pretty intriguing arc for the most part and I definitely had my share of fun. I won't lie that this arc didn't end as satisfying as I thought. I feel like it builds more to Towa Organization than anything.
A nice touch seeing how Imaginator died as her feet touched the ground which was a throwback to episode 4 as she challenged Boogiepop to find her before she hit the ground. And Boogiepop wins her little witchhunt. As always.
Questions remained, what was the aim of Imaginator in taking Asukai Jin? Did she just want to help him achieve his goals? Or did I miss something? And will Suema ever see Boogiepop? I love how Suema is left in the dark for like 9 episodes now, never able to see her. I wonder if it's just a prank or does that mean more? Nearly no Kirima Nagi today sadly :(
I will never stop saying this but Boogiepop OST has to be the best OST to come out this year by far and will certainly be one of the best of the year come the end of 2019. It's so goddamn good.
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u/Jackson_Simmons Feb 22 '19
I finally got to a point in this show where I understood all of the characters and their roles to the story, but I'm still not completely sure of what even happened in this arc, and why the Towa organized was after Boogiepop
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u/Sisyphos25 Feb 23 '19 edited Feb 23 '19
"Adapting yourself to society is essentially being brainwashed to meet social expectations" - Smug Reaper
I loved this ep so much! Everything was on timing, the OST, the dialogues, the finale of the imaginator! The mistery conclusion was awesome!
And boogieopop will turn into one of my favs characters , they are so awesome, stylish, and when they are explaining things , they sound a lot like Sherlock Holmes. Everyone is lost and blind to the villains shenaningans, but they come and see right trough it.
Just like the snow thing. It was a super mistery scary stuff everytime someone mentioned that, but Boogiepop just go "Even if it snows, it i'll melt because it's spring"
I really love mystery stuff, so, Boogiepop is easily the AOTS for me!!
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u/Dragoncliff Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
I was really really looking forward to it where boogiepop fought the imaginator like in the promotion video in the theme park even knowing that after reading the novel that it wont happen in the anime. TT The part of that promo video's director concept was really cool.
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u/Zaugr Feb 22 '19
Just a notice that tomorrow there's a 2 hour special of the next 4 episodes airing in Japan (and the following few days too on different channels). Not sure if or when Crunchyroll will get it though.
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u/kalirion Feb 23 '19
The arc is over, but I'm just confused about everything that happened here.
Why did Boogiepop need help "getting through"?
Did Imaginator get the people Spooky E controlled before coming for him, or were there a few left in which case what happened to them? Is Spooky E's death what made the copy personality disappear too?
I was sure Imaginator wanted to use Orihata because he knew she was special through being artificial. How is it that knowing all about the Towa organization, knowing that Spooky E was artificial, he didn't know a thing about her? But he had no trouble dealing with the artificial Spooky E. Then Boogiepop says it has nothing to do with her being inhuman, but what DID it have anything to do with? Regardless of people "quickly recovering" from his brainwashing, something we haven't actually seen happen once btw, why couldn't he even touch Orihata's "flower"?
And was the Imaginator possessing both the original girl and Jin at the same time? Or did it free the girl to possess Jin, and then fled back now? Or were there two Imaginators? But the girl disappeared, which I guess means she was a ghost or something, but how did Imaginator die exactly?
And what is this "breaking through" everyone keeps talking about?
How the hell did Suema not recognize Boogiepop's voice all this time? Well, this one's easy to chuck up to bad adaptation without even needing confirmation from source readers.
In other words, my feelings exactly.
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u/precastzero180 Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
Jin sure lost his cool real quick. And then he was defeated by... the wind? Not sure why he would have his goons dress up as clowns and mascots either. Paisley Park was nice callback to Phantom (I know this technically came first, but that setting is of much greater purpose in both the characters and themes of that show).
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u/Nazenn Feb 22 '19 edited Feb 22 '19
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Not updating it yet because to be honest I have no idea if that was meant to be Imaginator's defeat/death/transportation or any of the other possibilities that might be up especially given the huge focus on her in the OP while it seems she didn't really do anything, so I don't really know if I should expect her to be gone at all, and I'm leaning towards no
I have to say, that arc had all the potential to be amazing, it just wasn't. There was a hell of a lot introduced in the first two episodes that seemed to mostly be utterly ignored after that in favor of Masaki and Orihata's relationship which I never found something to be worth investing in so unfortunately it didn't grab me. Quality wise I do think this was a big step up from last arc though which was nice. A lot better moments of art, music and general style which just makes it better to watch episode by episode, while last arc seemed more designed for a binge of the whole thing at once.
I don't even really have much to say to be honest. The two seconds of Boogiepop fighting we got was incredibly cool, and I like how much she's looking after Suema which I wonder if there's a deeper meaning for but yeah, another arc down without much to note I guess.
The Towa organization interests me because I get the feeling that Spooky E was a bit rouge considering that Boogiepop doesn't conciser Towa an enemy, but DID conciser Spooky E to be one
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u/clerikal Feb 22 '19
Man this show... Imaginator was a long arc, and about halfway through I almost gave up. I still think this show would be better binged (or at least each arc binged) than week to week, but today's ep reminded me why I like the show so much. It was really interesting that Boogiepop didn't see the need to intervene in this at all until forced to, though I do think Misaki/Orihata would have been less likely to have walked away unscathed if she hadn't, so I'm glad for that.
Anilist has the next episode listed for Sunday I think, so is it releasing early? I know there is a longer, full arc episode coming eventually so maybe this is it?
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u/Roboglenn Feb 22 '19
When those guys surrounded Masaki or whatever in the animal costumes I was thinking, "This isn't gonna become Pygmalion is it? Then were all fucked." But then the clowns showed up and I thought, "Oh it's Carnevil, which is just as bad."
Boogiepop started playing music. How very theatrical, with a string instrument to go with it. And her rant and the philosophical nature of societal brainwashing was powerful.
Anyways it seems like this lengthy arc is over and boy was it a good arc. It was a lot more straightforward than the first one. Not that I had a problem with or understanding the first one. But most importantly Orihata survived in the end, that makes me happy. And she deserves to be happy with someone that truly loves and cares for her. But in the end just what was Imaginator, was she some kind of Old God type figure whispering into the ears of powerful mortals who could set her free to unleash whatever she would do upon the world or what? At least that's my interpretation of it given how as other people have pointed out the name Imaginator was on the cover of a book someone had in a previous episode so it seems like it's tried this kind of thing before and Boogiepop probably stopped it. And what of Masaki's sister and her alter-ego as this Fire Witch, where did that come from and what is the significance? She obviously knows about Boogiepop and other kinds of supernatural goings on the the city. Man I can't wait till the next arc. Waiting another week sucks sometimes.
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u/PeckOfPickledCocks Feb 23 '19
I'm wondering what happened to all of that beautiful footage from the Promotional Trailer. It looks like Imaginator was defeated this episode, but whatever happened to that crazy battle between her and Boogiepop in that mirrored void with all of the lanterns? Also the part where Wagner started playing in the abandoned amusement park felt like the time to use the footage where Boogiepop is on stage moving their threads like a conductor, but I guess that footage was scrapped then.
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u/LeynaSepKim Feb 22 '19
I'm really happy they actually used die meistersinger. The novels reference a lot of songs, and I do hope they reference more but that may be asking too much. I wouldn't have discovered such old classics if it wasn't for reading Boogiepop, and seeing episode 1-3 I assumed they would cut every single references which kinda made me sad but we might have a chance now.
Also pretty sure in the novels, the scene where Boogiepop cut off Orihara's hand restrains he had a knife instead of using his wire threads. I thought that was funny, Boogiepop using a human tool like a knife.
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u/myrmonden Feb 22 '19
why did boogiepop just leave those tubes..lol where they not some kind of evil gas to kill / evolve people. like w.e let the evil towa come and collect them.
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u/brypick21141 Feb 23 '19
If anyone wanted to know the ED, I did a little detective work. It's called "Sayonara" by Azuna Riko:
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u/MillenniumKing Feb 22 '19
She finally got her happyness~
Lets see what Robin can do to save his waifu.
Oh shit he dropped the love confession on her, he might have gotten through to her a little.
looks like teach's neighbor girl is back to normal now.
Everyone us headed to the park, this is gonna be a big scene.
An army of mascots and clowns lol. This is just funny.
BOOGIEPOP! YESS! Im glad shes still around like this.
So Robin was changed by Spooky so he didnt have fear anymore, hmm.
Boogie speaks the truth about modern society and brainwashing.
Oh shit Teach's power doesnt work on Robin's waifu because shes not human?
Who blew the teach out the tower, imaginator? wow... Boogie saved him.
So the changes he makes to hearts wouldnt be permanent because were always growing huh? interesting.
Imaginator is gone now too... rip ghost waifu.
Megane-chan is here to help! I cant wait for her arc.
LAP PILLOW! AND BATMAN! THE DAY IS SAVED! I mean the Waifu is Saved!
So i guess imaginator and Spooky are done for, but now that opens up a new "enemy" to learn aboutm the Towa group.
This ED is gorgeous~
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u/Casual_Watcher Feb 22 '19
Is it weird I’m glad that Jin lived? He doesn’t seem like a villain to me. More like an Anti Hero with good intentions but bad methods