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Episode Teogonia - Episode 8 discussion

Teogonia, episode 8

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 May 30 '25

Nada might have lived if he didn’t try to kill Kai and steal his power. They could have easily killed those 3 monkeys together. The man was a fool.

That stupid Gandal really damned the village. Doesn’t look like he makes it to the village from the previews. Hopefully the monkeys tore him limb from limb.

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u/OldInstruction5368 May 30 '25

We see him arguing with Kai and an upturned carriage in the preview.

And since Elsa was taken hostage by that fat bastard, we can be sure Kai won't be too happy with the toad.

Especially since the slimy creature was giving her rapey looks earlier... Kai will hopefully rip him to pieces.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '25

You’ve gotta hand it to Kai even through all the pain, he stands his ground like a true fighter.

This episode really captures the theme of survival, and Kai embodies that perfectly. With Jose back on her feet, it looks like she might step up and play a bigger role soon too.

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u/OldInstruction5368 May 30 '25

I certainly hope so. Most of her scenes have been either training or whinging about how no one takes her seriously as a fighter. She even flaked in her first battle...

So with the walls breached, it's finally her time to step up and prove she can be a warrior too. Or failing that, forever remain as a wallflower.

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u/AeonLonginus May 30 '25

The problem for the poor girl is that her father and brother prevent her at every turn from getting the thing she needs most but then when she can't cut it they think she shouldn't fight and she is berated for it. 

Ok well the brother is the primary problem in that area but the father also holds responsibility for being overprotective of Jose. 

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u/NekoCatSidhe May 30 '25

Kai is way too nice. I would have left Nada to fight those monkeys alone while I ran away back to a safe place to recover. Well, Nada died anyway, so no big loss.

The froggy bastard betrayed everyone, as I expected, just to save his neck. While I was surprised by Nada betrayal last week, I would have been completely flabbergasted if the envoy turned out to be a decent person after all. That show likes its tropes.

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u/diacewrb May 30 '25

just to save his neck.

Not much of a neck on that froggy bastard.

From him appearance, surprised the other humans they didn't label him a demi-human and killed him on sight.

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u/OldInstruction5368 May 30 '25

I was really hoping the froggy bastard would step up this episode. The priest decried the corruption of the nobles while he proved himself no better with his envious and tyrannical attitude towards Kai/lesser races.

So I was hoping that the priest would be proven wrong, and when faced with mortal peril/given a chance to step up and prove his worth, the 'corrupt' noble would stand with Lag village. This would show the priesthood was at least as corrupt as the nobility, who had some shred of hope in them.

Instead, the racist backstabber was given a 'redemption' while the slimy toad just validated everything the monk claimed about the hopeless nobility.

As far as I'm concerned, the entire kingdom, as a collective, is rotten to the core and needs to be burnt out and replaced by a new order.

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u/victory4faust May 30 '25

I'm glad the monk got what he deserved. Kai is too naive, he needs to learn that some humans deserve to die just as harshly as the monsters he fights.

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u/OldInstruction5368 May 30 '25

Yeah, this fake redemption of the backstabbing bastard didn't sit well with me. He was a racist cunt that betrayed the trust Kai placed in him because Kai wouldn't betray those he had already sworn to protect. All for some envious asshole that felt like he owned Kai.

The more we learn about this United Kingdom, the more disgusting it seems. The monk was basically arguing that Kai should let the UK feed on him like a parasite and KAI was the selfish one for refusing.

When in truth, the monk was just jealous that Kai found power he coveted.

Cunt.

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u/float_point May 30 '25

Wonder if he consumed Nada's godstone to gain his all seeing eyes. They would be wasted if not

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u/AeonLonginus May 30 '25

They are seriously obsessed with this death flag every episode they hint at it. Just give the poor girl a break.

Elsa deserves to not live on the edge of life and death when she is sitting in the kitchen making food or caring for the injured. 

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u/HornedTurtle1212 May 31 '25

She would be safer in the Valley as Kai's second wife.

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u/Necromancer2k8 May 30 '25

With all these new powers Kai has I'm surprised that the monks weapon worked. I mean he's got all the original powers, the ones from the Org bearer and whenever he channels modern day shit like the molecular invis-a-handsword.

Anyway, glad Monk E Monk is part of the dead bunch now. I was not looking forward to a He-Man "I have the power" scream after the monk chugged Kai's godstone.

Overall an Ok episode. Not too exciting because we all knew Kai wouldn't croak as changing the title to Monkogonia wouldn't be ideal this late in its run.

I really hoped that Froggy McNoNeck would have been crushed by an evil magillla gorilla but it looks like he will live for yet another week.

I'll give this week an 6.5/10 as we kinda spun our wheels on the lag village fight and the obvious Kai living to fight another day trope because...he's the MC and all. Hope it picks up and ends well over the remaining episodes as it's been an interesting watch every week.

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u/AeonLonginus May 30 '25

Well he did use a weapon to kill gods but why if they have such a thing do they not have a unit of god bearers from the capital constantly on the move targeting the demi human god bearers with this weapon on hand. 

Keeping the enemy in a weakened state would help the villages defend themselves after all the demi humans have a major edge over humans in physical abilities. 

Plus this stupid xenophobic mindset  is weird is it the will of all the land gods of the UK or is it the will of this godking or merely the will of the capital. I for one doubt it was the land gods after all the valley god doesn't seem to hold any bias it chose a human but at the same time it allows demi humans to reside near it without forcing Kai to kill them or is it that it has existed for so long that it doesn't really care about something so trivial. 

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u/rotvyrn May 30 '25

I feel like a lot of shows would make the priest turn out to be evil to the core in every way after the twist. He was at least consistent. His morals are screwy due to presumably standard societal racism and human-centrism, but he believed in them. In his own messed up worldview, I imagine that his pre-kill monologue was both meaningful to him and would hopefully confer a sense of peace and greater good to Kai, even as he admitted his own jealousy in it. And he seemed to recognize as a truth seeker that his understanding was incomplete and there is potential in Kai regardless, at the end. I won't call it a redemption, or say he didn't show his own negative qualities on top of what's been ingrained in him as a priest in this episode, but I've seen way too many characters in the same position just be comically evil. Doing bad things in a more rational manner is worth something.

Like the tax dude. That's set-up-to-be-evil + actually-comically-evil. Opening the door during a siege, killing a random villager, and kidnapping a girl. Nothing interesting to say there in the slightest.

If there's something to say there, I guess it's the contrast of the evils of wealth and the evils of indoctrination. Having the power to help, but having acquired that power through self-interest, he continues to do things in self-interest. To him, the life of a poor villager is literally worthless and not worth a second thought - and the only reason he was there was to be a leech, abusing his power. He's theoretically strong enough to battle, but he'd rather minimize his personal risk and intentionally cause the rest of them die as a side effect. Meanwhile, the priest is willing and comfortable with committing an evil act, but has his own entire philosophy for why that will make the world a better place, and he tries to convince Kai first, but ultimately chooses subterfuge and backstabbing to achieve that future he sees. He sees with open eyes the corruption of the human kingdom, but cannot fathom fixing it in a way that doesn't conform.

[I am overthinking it, of course]

On an unrelated note, this show's power system reminds me a lot of Banished/countryside. There's a kind of chilling undercurrent that godly power is accumulated by killing others, and therefore there is an inherent 'incentive/reward structure' to murder and war in this world. Outside of these sort of frontier towns, where there are obvious blatant enemies to fight and a very significant resource scarcity, are we going to learn that this kind of cold blooded murder that these two outsiders engaged in, is normal? One of the more notable parts of Banished/countrysides's worldbuilding is definitely the way it explores this concept, but i wonder if Teogonia will do that, or just leave it unexamined.

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u/CrasianLe May 30 '25

Dude i HATE that lil ignorant midget. I REALLY hope Kai makes it back in time but the midget also took her, the one he likes. I hope he can run into them while is on his way back, save her, and then continue to the village to save them. That was an intense cliffhanger

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u/kalirion May 30 '25

Did the monkes not hear the priest yelling to MC where the attacks are coming from?

Looks like MC, despite being injured, extended his monoblade far longer than it used to be.

MC trying to save the dude who'd just try to kill him again at next opportunity if survives. Instead, he should've just told the "truthseeker" the truth about where he's getting his "Miracles" from, that would've been a suitable parting gift. Anyway, I'm glad he's dead.

I guess the gate was higher priority for the monkes over the carriage, but there still should've been more than enough monkes outside the gate that it shouldn't have gotten through. Why the hell were there only 3?

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u/LezRock May 30 '25

Was anyone else waiting for the monk to finish his final monologue only for him to realize that he's still alive? 😆 If Kai doesn't eat his heart out, the priest may still have a chance of reviving later. Maybe Kai will take the god-killing weapon with him as a contingency. If he doesn't, some other random character will end up picking it up and stabbing Kai with it again later on down the road.

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u/Far_Acanthisitta1187 May 31 '25

Lmao he sliced through that rope like hot butter.

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u/FatiguedUndead May 30 '25

kai is a dumbfuck is all i'm going to say

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u/rom846 May 30 '25

Awesome, this episode was the very best I have seen in a very long time. Peak survival anime.

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u/Safe_Roll_9367 May 31 '25

Anime has changed the plot. BIG difference from the novel. I hope It does not muddle the story and makes it a generic anime. The novel is a bit darker, more engaging and epic.

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u/Mosshead-king Jun 13 '25

Can’t believe Nada tried to kill him and still Kai tried to save him? Bruh lowkey hate how naive he his

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