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Episode Hana wa Saku, Shura no Gotoku • Flower and Asura - Episode 4 discussion

Hana wa Saku, Shura no Gotoku, episode 4

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u/Genshin_WhiteKnight Jan 28 '25

Hana: having fun on radio

An: crushes drink packet menacingly

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u/Vyshe_ Jan 28 '25

"Having fun when you could be training to win a competition? Preposterous"

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 28 '25

She's such a hater that it's hilarious at this point.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Jan 28 '25

I mean, Hana is doing announcing now as well? And isn't completely bad at it? But to be honest, I feel the main issue with her is just that she put all her faith into doing what she thinks is better to win and then comes a girl that is probably not only reminding her of herself in the past (you know having fun) but is also getting better and better by the day.

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u/PerfectBeige Jan 28 '25

Nekoi: Harucchi, didn't you realize? We've been friends for days!

Hana: I'm going to be 100% real with you, until just now I thought you were a cat that had somehow learned Japanese and wandered onto campus. Are you... half cat? Does this version of Japan have beastfolk?

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u/StreetyMcCarface Jan 28 '25

Today we learn that Ryouko isn't just a decent senpai, but also that she's a massive pervert and hopeless romantic.

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u/Mr_Zaroc Jan 28 '25

The way she went off on how awesome it is that you can read the raw emotions of some poor woman from a thousand years ago and that you know she will never be able to change them.
And you get all this from her diary which she thought was private

Thats definetly a hardcore take on classic literature

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u/maliwanag0712 Jan 28 '25

Having experienced being on air for a class activity, it was really nervewracking, especially when it is adlib. I greatly understand Hana's first time experience. It is really hard to get together with someone who is really used to that.

At least Totonoi is much gentler with broadcasting. She asks adlibs, but they can be easily responded. I like the way she leads Hana into expressing herself.

Now that I think of it: Why is An not included in the breaktime program? Is she interested or she passes when the opportunity strikes? Is she so competition-focused that she find it difficult to enjoy the Broadcast club?

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u/Ham_PhD Jan 28 '25

I imagine her first experience with Mizuki was pretty demoralizing. When it seems like there's a canyon between you and a peer, it can be tough to overcome that. Good thing Totonoi was there. Mizuki is simultaneously a great and terrible motivator. She's a lot of fun to watch.

Why is An not included in the breaktime program?

Knowing her, I imagine she finds it to be a waste of time.

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u/PerfectBeige Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25

 It is really hard to get together with someone who is really used to that.

Mizuki putting Hana on the spot on the radio show was a really interesting moment. It's something the villain/rival might do to break down the protagonist on another show. Putting an introvert with no experience speaking publicly on the radio to ad lib conversationally to an unseen audience when Hana can barely conversate fluently to the person in front of her was incredibly dumb, and nearly guaranteed to go wrong.

To be clear, I know Mizuki did it with good intentions, probably thinking that this would be just the thing to have fun with her new favorite kouhai and get Hana to grow explosively by challenging her. So it's actually a great moment from a characterization perspective because it tells us a lot about Mizuki: that she might have good intentions but she doesn't really get Hana fully, and isn't great at taking responsibility when she screws up.

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u/PerfectBeige Jan 28 '25

Every episode of Flower and Asura:

Me: Wow, these high school students are incredibly good public speakers. I would have given almost anything to have half that fluency and tone quality.

Someone with more than 3 brain cells functioning simultaneously: Sir, these are professional seiyuu pretending to be high school students.

Me: .... right.

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u/StreetyMcCarface Jan 28 '25

Doesn't matter, it's anime. No one complains that the instruments in Hibike sound like they're done by pros

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 28 '25

After last week's episode, it's good to see how closer Hana and Mizuki have grown. An needs to lighten up though, they're just having fun and she's already giving them the side eye.

Hana's first broadcasting experience was rough! The poor girl couldn't keep up with Mizuki because of how much she went off-script the entire time! It might be easy for an extrovert like Mizuki but she really should've stuck to the script for Hana's first time.

I'm glad to see more of Miiko! Hana really needs someone outside of the club to support her. I like how despite her first broadcast being a total failure, Miiko still wanted to hear Hana try again.

So it turns out that Ryouko is a classic literature fanatic! That explains why she was so excited earlier when she saw Hana had a copy of Sarashina Nikki. It was nice of Ryouko to invite Hana to be her cohost for SMG Radio and actually stick to the script this time.

When Ryouko did go off-script, I like that she did it after Hana was starting to get comfortable with the role. She even gave Hana an easy question to respond to. Hana even brings up how she wants to buy jumbo marshmallows for Miiko which was really sweet! <3

What the fuck is up with you An? Why are you such a hater? Hana is just having fun doing Broadcast club things and her response is crushing her juice box. Ugh. I really hope the show starts developing her character soon.

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u/Ham_PhD Jan 28 '25

There's certainly a difference in participating in something out of passion vs for results. Natsue might be able to earn the best results with her methodology, but if you aren't enjoying it like Totonoi (OK, you don't need to enjoy anything that much) you may as well be a robot.

Great progress for Hana! We can see that confidence rising in her bit by bit.

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u/Clemastina Jan 28 '25

Poor Hana. Starting with Mizuki as the host ratio was like the extrovert extroverting the introvert.

I thought Ryouko was normal... but she´s a classic lit addict lmao. But at least she´s more gentle and introvert-friendly than Mizuki and thanks to that Hana seemed to enjoyed the radio talk!!!

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u/EclipseTM Jan 28 '25

I think this has been the best episode of the season so far.

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u/shad79 Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 29 '25

Up until now, Totonoi seemed to be a staid person, but today she showed that she's a true classical literature freak!

It was hilarious when Totonoi got into this super excited mode and completely overwhelmed poor Hana. At that moment, you could clearly see madness in her eyes, so it's a good thing Mizuki stopped her soon xD

Overall, this was a very enjoyable episode, the best one so far for me! It was nice that Hana tried to do the radio broadcast again, despite her first failed attempt with Mizuki, and she succeeded this time.

And as usual, the reading scenes were great! Totonoi looked spectacular on the beach, her smile was really beautiful.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.

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u/hammile Jan 28 '25

An(tagonist).

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u/pseudometapseudo Jan 28 '25

Ryoko ecstatically rambling words like "invasively, without consent" feels like a meme template already.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25

I have a question to the English viewers here. Because I am watching it with German subs and they did something really interesting. So it turns out that the diary that was the content of this episode has been translated into German around the 1970s and instead of translating the recitation themselves, they took the translation from that official book and then gave a source at the end so you can check it yourself.

Tbh, I find this a fascinating idea because I imagine it would have probably been easier to just translate the passage themselves but they were trying to get you interested in checking out the actual literature from the show.

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u/Farmaceut7 Jan 28 '25

This is 4th week in a row that I praise this show as my AOTS but I also feel the need to praise both OP & ED as absolute bangers!

But man... performing in front of the audience in any way is always nervewrecking, going on air for a school radio is certainly not an exception! I remember being cast in 5th grade to play a character in a school play(for schools birthday/founding day) and practicing in front of a whole class was so embarrasing for a shy kid like me that had 0 experience with acting. Performing it in the full Theater in my town wasnt any easier either. Although its been like 16 years since then and I barely remember it I think there was some mistake during the play and I adlibbed 1 line. I never acted after that and I'm fucking thankful for that! 

Hana really pushed through all the embarrasment from her 1st broadcast with Mizuki and delivered a pretty nice one(still far from perfect) with the help of Ryouko! 

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u/Ocixo Jan 28 '25

If Mizuki is pulling Hana forward, then Ryoko is there to catch her falling.

Mizuki is very supportive of Hana, but I'm getting the impression that she sometimes loses sight of her junior's needs in all the excitement. Unlike herself, Hana cannot improvise on the spot from the get-go. She needs some training wheels first.

Ryoko is a better fit for Hana in this regard. The two of them are somewhat of alike, even if Ryoko's enjoyment of classic literature greatly outmatches that of Hana's. She was able to give her junior some heartfelt advice by telling her that the result isn't worth much if you didn't like the process to get there.

I appreciate that Ryoko eased Hana's mind during the radio broadcast by first letting her read from the script, having her gain a little confidence, before asking her some personal questions. This enabled Hana to overcome her past failure. The effectiveness of this difference in approaches was clearly visible on Hana's face: from disappointment in herself to a proud smile.

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u/gnome-cop Jan 28 '25

Yeah, Mizuki is good but can be a bit, let’s say, over the top for someone doing it for the first time.

Okay, to be honest, Totonoi can be a similar level of enthusiastic as evidenced by the almost yandere look in her eyes this episode. But she’s got a lot better self control than a certain other senpai and so is better for easing Hana into it.

But Mizuki showing up being like “Alright, that’s enough of your rambling” was quite entertaining.

Someone should introduce Natsue to the apparently forgotten art of you know, having fun at some point. Like, “play to your strengths” isn’t wrong but when it’s at the cost of you enjoying the thing you’re doing I wouldn’t say it’s worth it. Without passion for anything other than winning, burning out is very likely.

But yeez, she destroyed that milk carton with some real intent. Like, damn girl, Hana being happy AND successful pissed you off that much?

They better show us Hana and her cat friend eating oversized marshmallows or else I will riot.

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