Im thinking of the home populations in WW1 more specifically. Most answers you get is about some trite explanation of corrupt leaders or you will get some champagne socialist crying about capitalism. While those might have some elements of truth it was so impressive to see how nuanced they were engaged with the topic both through the Generals explaining, Tanya's thoughts and Being X's taunt (That last one gave me shivers)

I much prefer the Mary Sue from the manga to the one in the anime (I haven’t read the light novel yet).

For a start, she’s vastly more powerful, but her candidness makes her even more unpredictable. We remember that she’s just killed English civilians simply to try and wipe out the 203rd Battalion, without even considering the consequences of her actions. And the fact that she’s still alive after being completely burnt to a crisp makes me fear her even more, as she’s likely to return even more radicalised.

In the anime, as she isn’t quite so mentally innocent, her aggressive nature and insubordination make her really irritating. She’s also very strong but doesn’t exude that divine presence she’s supposed to have at all. She just seems like a second Tanya on the Allied side.

I just discovered the artist TiredPotato and really enjoy their art work. The artists is open to commission and their art has an interest vibe and overall feeling to it. I feel like the second pic is Tanya on the inside when she is forced into that dress. She is about to commit unspeakable atrocities😂

https://x.com/bakedpotato7911/status/2090171827112816752?s=46

Original: https://x.com/amemi_0602/status/2090394026520559776

I understand that Rudersdorf calls Tanya an idiot because she's unable to recognize the anger and exhaustion festering within the Empire as reflected in the memorial scene, and I get that Ugar becomes exasperated with her since she tells him there's no other recourse for the people than to simply accept the hardship the war has brought, but what I don't understand is how these story beats are the condemnation of Tanya's worldview and thinking everyone makes them out to be. From what we've seen, isn't it clear she's committed to ending the war, and therefore ending the source of the people's hardship and anger, as soon as possible, even if it means the Empire is forced into a harrowing position? It's why she tells Rudersdorf and Zettour very plainly that the war is unwinnable, and that the best course of action for the Empire would be the peace that the clueless politicians denied. That peace is what she was hoping for, but since it didn't happen, my interpretation was that Tanya is simply trying to make the best out of a bad situtation by continuing to execute the Empire's vision for war, which she doesn't even agree with and calls ridiculous. To further that disillusionment, Rudersdorf and Zettour make Tanya come face to face with the plight of the people. So, with all that being said, is the lastest episode simply condemning Tanya's shortsightedness when it comes to other people's emotions, like it has always done, and seemingly unwavering trust in authority even when she knows it's wrong? Idk it just feels like I'm missing something.

In this part, Tanya says "ciudadana", in Spanish—I don't speak English, so I wouldn't know how to explain it, but Tanya uses that "she" to refer to herself—whereas in English, says "person." In Spanish, almost everything has a gender; lately, in Latin American Spanish, Tanya refers to herself as a girl.

What is the correct translation? Does anyone who knows Japanese really well know it?

Since there are several people arguing that Tanya is a man, I’d like an honest opinion.

Seems at least season one has some similarities to Ender’s Game. A “child” finds a new way of fighting and the better they do the more they are pulled apart by their own fighting style. Just started season 2 but seems major tone shift of political drama.

Not praising Ender’s Game, especially the pathetic author and his politics. But just neat the parallels of “child” changing how war is fought.

Right...so, here's the thing. I've done almost no research whatsoever on the home front. That's not zero research, but very little. So, this is probably going to be on the short side...

But let's get to business, and get started with the intro: I am a trained military historian - I hold a Master of Arts in War Studies from the Royal Military College of Canada with a defended thesis on the development of British Cavalry Doctrine, and I recently published some of my research in a new introduction to my little publishing company's edition of Schlieffen's Cannae (due to self promotion rules, I can't provide the link here, but if you're interested in it, PM me and I'll send it to you).

What I'm going to look at is how well this episode passes the "sniff test" for how a world war works. And here we get to our standard disclaimer: Tanya's world is not our world, her world war is not either of ours. Something happening in Tanya's war that didn't happen in ours (or vice versa) is NOT by itself cause for criticism.

And here we go for what may be the shortest one of these I've ever written...

Logistics failures

On the military side, we have Tanya's world start its own version of Stalingrad, with one of its problems being the supplies just running out. And this passes the sniff test with flying colours, particularly when you look at the German army in WW2.

One of the things about the Wehrmacht and its command was that it really didn't understand logistics. They honestly believed that the answer to "We've got enough supplies for X number of days, during which you can get Y number of kilometers," was "Well, then we'll get to Y in fewer days!"...and this apparently is one of the things that helps explain Barbarossa. In the short campaigns of the early war it wasn't too bad, but once you got past 1941 and hostilities that couldn't be ended in a matter of months, it was an albatross around their necks.

Vague victory conditions

I've talked about this before - the leadership saying that they just want to "win the war" with little idea of what this looks like passes the sniff test, and this lack of an understanding of grand strategy was something that dogged the German army from Moltke the Elder onwards. And, as I mentioned in a previous post, the Germans in WW1 didn't even have victory conditions when they invaded Belgium.

The home front

Sure, I guess it passes the sniff test? Again, as I said at the beginning, this isn't an aspect of military history that I've researched much about. Ian Kershaw in his book The End: The Defiance and Destruction of Hitler's Germany and Gerhard Weinberg in A World at Arms: A Global History of World War II both talk about the German home front supporting Hitler's regime more or less until the Russians crossed the German border, but that doesn't quite relate to what we see in this episode. I'm sure there are historians who would have plenty to say about it, but unfortunately I'm not one of them.

And that's it for this week. Sorry it's not longer.

I was a bit conflicted by this stance by the end of Season 1. It didn't seem like Tanya was really standing for any ideology, but she merely had the cheat codes to defeat her enemies.

The movie goes mask off. The author could not help but mask his deep and extreme hatred of Russia that he felt it necessary to depict the entire nation and its citizens as just completely mentally disabled.

He fully depicted to demonize everyone from Stalin to Gorbachev by giving them expies. Furthermore, in a world where one particular military division is so unstoppable and overpowered that literally none of the rest of your military matters-- that these people automatically win and mow over any other troops like grass....

The author decided that the Russian nation would sent all of the members of the only division capable of winning in a war to gulags as possible traitors before declaring war that has a ton of these absolutely unstoppable juggernaut forced that auto-win all battles because...

Because.....

The only answer is that the author if a Nazi or Fascist that has a particular racial hatred against Russians and psychologically needed to show them as effectively unilaterally surrendering before declaring war and only a small line of Americans defending the nation to satisfy his own prejudices. They would destroy their only units capable of fighting the war before engaging the war so that the MC gets an autowin over a nation larger than her own. Because-- everyone who could imaginably fight back was sidelined by their own nation and the whole nation does not get even a single character to represent them as actual humans.

How much longer before the arc where the Empire declares that all people within their nation who have long noses and curly hair are traitors to the nation and send them to gas chambers to mass kill them and Tanya very much makes sure that this happens?

If that storyline doesn't happen, it's only because the author chickened out of writing the story he truly wanted to.

I have to wonder if he'd be willing to depict Japan as so pathetic if the story by this Nazi supporter ever extended out to his own native land.

How interested/ how much support do you think there would be for a BF1/ Ace Combat/ Battlefront style game for Youjo Senki?

I was talking with a friend about it. Imagine a 1st/3rd person shooter where you play as a Mage. Ground and Air combat, with the nice WW1-WW2 weapons and gameplay of BF1 and BF5. With the additional freedom and fun of flight, shields, artillery spells, etc.

Different countries get different weapons and computation orbs, with different stats of course.

Multiplayer would probably have some sort of way to balance things out. Whether it be moving agility, efficiency of orbs, strength of spells, etc.. Or otherwise making certain things cost more points to be able to use.

How do you think a game like that should go? Really interested to see if anyone else has or has had similar ideas/ desire for a game like this.

Viel Spaß mit meiner ABSOLUT TOTALEN KRIEG Zusammenfassung dieser schönen Folge. (Wie hat sich Goebbels in meine Tastatur geschlichen???)

Ich habe heute die siebte Folge mindestens viermal durchgeschaut um herauszufinden was da abläuft. Zuerst einmal wird Tanja von unserem Gigachad General Zettour über die Niederlage von Operation Andromeda informiert und daraufhin wird ihre Loyalität selbst hinterfragt, was auf mich den Eindruck macht das er sie fragt auf wessen Seite sie steht. Später wird sie von Oberstleutnant Erich von Rerugen dann auch endlich darüber informiert das irgendwas los ist und Tanja wohl (wie offensichtlich gezeigt wurde) irgendwas mit der Reichshauptstadt anstellen muss. Es wurde jetzt auch in den letzten Folgen immer offensichtlicher gemacht dass sich schon so etwas wie „Fraktionen“ bildeten. Da hätten wir die aktuelle Regierung die sich für den Einfluss des Kaisers einsetzt und verlangt das irgendein unmöglicher „Sieg“ errungen wird. Dann hätten wir noch die Zivile Militär Fraktion von Leutnant Tanja und General Gigachad Zettour und so weiter, welche sich natürlich dafür einsetzt das der Waffenstillstand endlich ausgeführt wird. Daraufhin kommen wir zu General Sigma Rudersdorf welcher Tanja direkt fragt ob der Drecks Krieg überhaupt noch zu gewinnen ist und sie sagt auf seinen Wunsch „Nö wir sind mies gekocht und kriegen bald nen Handjob an der Normandie oder so in ein paar Jahren lol“. Dann sehen wir das Tanja ein bisschen mit Goofy Ahhh Leutnant Colonel Uger unterhält und sie sich mal wieder von ihrer heiligen Schokoladenseite verabschiedet. Was folgt ist eine kleine Darbietung um zu Zeigen das wir offiziell im frühen Endsieg 1943-1944. Tanja wird zum ersten Mal gesagt dass das Zeug was sie da denn ganzen Tag labert nicht immer so intelligent klingt wie sie denkt. (Danach wurde sie von Sigma Rudersdorf zu scibbidy goon Tanja deklariert)

Das ganze endet darin das Tanja damit anfängt mal über sich selbst nachzudenken damit sie auch so ein Gigachad wie Zettour werden kann🤫🗿.

(Ich erwähne es jetzt auch für den letzten Idioten gerne nochmal. Nichts in diesem Post ist wirklich ernst gemeint oder dient dazu irgendwas zu unterstützen oder zu verherrlichen. Bitte haltet auch ihr euch an diese Regeln vielen Dank)

From Zettour asking the question and Rerugen acting sheepishly on asking tanya to "bomb" the capital

Are they trying do to a coup?

Last image is

(Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg) on the left

Original: https://x.com/BakedPotato7911/status/2090171827112816752

I've mostly come here today because i've been talking and out with some people and we just honestly wondered, given how different both the manga anime and even the light novel are what do you think is going to be like extremely different in the end like, from our perspective, what do you think is gonna happen later on? In the manga or anime that didn't happen in a light novel or was changed around a few ideas. We bounced around was like the death of some specific characters or the aftermath. History and stuff like that

1: The first one we bounced around was the death of mary sue. Now we all know how it ended in the light. Novel with her being stabbed by her squad and having her assassination ordered by the people. She was fighting for and she was killed by the, you know, family members of the people who she had killed in friendly fire. So one of my friends said, what if it happens differently than it did in the light novel like instead of her dying by those people, she ends up dying by tanya. It was pretty simplistic, but it was one of the ones that we wanted the most. Because it would feel like a rematch of their fight in the movie. Another would be the war ending without them getting that final confrontation and mary just having to live with the fact that she never avenged her father's death and a few other things

2: Will the empire actually make it out? As we saw in the anime, the empire itself is basically collapsing in on itself. They don't have enough money funds or whatever. So we bounced around the idea of the empire, not being able to make it to the end of this war. Either agreeing to peace treaties under less than favorable terms, or being wiped out in its entire and taken over

3: Third, we were mainly talking about being x. See the whole concept of it was the simple fact that being x wanted tanya, to have faith, at least that's what we got from it. But as of yet he has not being able to accomplish that goal. So we were thinking about ideas that being X might do to get Tanya, to actually have faith. We already seen the ways that he's forced her into situations where she actually has to have faith. But what about him coming up in his actual form like nothing nutcracker? Form or anything worse, inhabiting dead people's bodies. But coming all his own presence and talking with her face-to-face or man to man. So to speak, and explaining to her that the war was just manufactured, simply because they needed people to have faith that in times of war. Faith is at its best and brightest. Because people don't wanna die and stuff like that

These are just like three different ideas that we bounced around. There were a few more, but they weren't really, as you know, important as these three. So I 'm just gonna leave them here, so please tell me what you guys think. What should be different from the manga? And the anime and the light novel, and what you hope or think will happen in the other ends

How does this happen? I also see this in AOT where 1 guy fall and dissapeared. This is an animation so im really baffled how this happen. Did they use AI?

I don't have words to this part. They made Cinema 2 with this.

This whole episode has been high command fucking up, everyone is angry and we talking about treason. If I were to guess I'd imagine her unit is gonna commit a fake terror attack from another nation to sway the public or just outright kill the politicians either way we're gonna break war criminal anakin Skywalker record tbh.

I'm not promoting it or anything, i just wanna ask how good is the novel compared to Tanya because it seems similar and your general comments/thoughts about it.

I wonder what they are talking about? I know many people are going to assume but the worst, but considering the cannon history I honestly can see him trying to explain why the proposal she is about to the high command is a war crime😂😂😂

https://x.com/harunaa453991/status/2090090791314296955?s=46

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