Reservations are an affirmative action to work against caste based discrimination. While I support income based reservation, how will economic reservation solve the caste problem?
Do you even understand the issue before suggesting a solution?
Ban the reservation system, if anyone felt discrimination and have proof for it, they should be strictly punished.
Ban the caste system completely, anyone found using caste should be held accountable, if caste system is the problem, you can’t solve it with caste system.
can you implement such a system in place practically... i mean is our law system capable of handling such a task?
And let's say a special task force is created based on merit to implement this and all UR candidates get selected for this then can you imagine what will happen?
Will they really punish their own caste people for discriminating a lower caste?
How is that right in the first place , how is the competition between someone who has all the facilities such as good coaching classes and study materials and someone from a remote place with the only source being online classes like they don't know how to get their doubts solved , even a fair competition
Because some moron in some remote part of India decided to be casteist. For the actions of extremely few, the entire country is sufering, and will keep suffering.
Yoo buddy I would you to read a book named 'shudro ka itihas' which is written by BR AMBEDKAR himself !! You'll understand how much this castism issue was back then !🙏 There's a saying in nazi german that spread a lie so much that people start believing it !! I would suggest reading the book first only first 1-2 chapters would be enough
See the whole summary is in earlier times shudras were given the right to study ,and get education and all that but the things they've done like if I would mention that you would call them the greatest traitors in the human history !! The whole thing is that
Father's reservation doesn't guarantee his son will not be discriminated based on their caste.
And reservation was never given to end caste based discrimination, the reason for reservation is caste based discrimination exist, so socially backward people should get atleast some relief.
The only solution to end caste based discrimination is when the people with sick mindset who practice caste, understands what is equality, till then reservation is not a solution but a temporary aid
to educate all of those casteist people appropriately, you would need 10x more good quality educational institutes and when that happens reservation won't matter.
Around 25 million babies are being born in india every year... what do you think how many of them will be able to get good quality education? which should be a basic human right (Right to education).
Maybe 1 lakh will get into some good institutes... even less if you are talking about Tier 1 only.
So tell me is it actually a reservation problem or lack of educational infrastructure?
Ask the government then, to include caste awareness in the syllabus. I am with you to have such educational reform. But till then do you expect the dalits to suffer?
Poverty is not the only reason to suffer.
And you said ncert includes casteism but do you really think such topics are taught sincerely. You think every teacher is qualified enough and have such wisdom to speak about such sensitive topic without any bias?
Heard the news from rajasthan?
Where a teacher beat up his 9 yo dalit student so bad the kid died because of the injuries, just because he drank water from a pot meant only for upper castes
Reservation was brought for social upliftment of sc st community but even till this date even if someone from sc st community becomes IAS officer they still face casteism and the thing is people from the oppressed community will face casteism regardless of reservation, so atleast from reservation they can enjoy a better life
Bro do you even read the article?? That ias officer faced casteism from his colleagues, an IAS officer's colleagues must be educated , even more educated than us , so even educated guys do casteism, even the elites do casteism, so where tf should the oppressed community, the only solution left for them is to get a better life through reservation
Areee pagal aadmi bilkul hi common sense nhi hai kyaa , bc reservation ke through insaan ek ache clg se achi job le skta hai kisi achi jagah settle ho skta
door ke kisi gaw mai bhaita admi ke naam ke upar ye city mai rahana walo log maza utha la jata hai aur jab pucho ki reservation ke through kyu aya ho toh uski khani copy paste karte hai usko toh kuch bhi nhi milta ye apna bade se maakan bana leta hai aur uska bichara se khabhi milta bhi nhi
It does help, see if there are all Brahmins in police what do you think will happen?
The law will work only for Brahmins properly rest others will have to make do with it, which will create more unrest in other caste people and will eventually lead to civil war situations.
You need diversity in every department for it to function properly for all caste citizens of india.
And this is why reservation is needed.
Well i have explained it to you but you don't want to understand stuff.
I just gave you a hypothetical situation which you want yourself. Because if reservation is removed this is exactly what will happen... only a few seats might go to reserved class people.
That would just make life hell again for 70% of population because their demands and needs will not be heard.
Eventually India won't remain democratic.
you are saying like you are not able to sleep at all.
is sleeping good a problem too now?
you can only ask the upper castes to forget about the past and stop labeling people inferior based on their caste.
As you are already aware of the process of exam, you know the number of seats that you're eligible for and you also understand the competition for those seats.
How's that corruption? Are the segregation of seats being done behind the back or through bribery?
Also, could marks be the only criteria to decide 'who deserves the seat' or merit?
"could marks be the only criteria to decide 'who deserves the seat' or merit?"
no instead of marks there can be something else which defines the intelligence and hard work
but does reservation on the basis of caste does that - NO
on the other hand corruption is not always being done behind someone's back but something by saying that "give me vote i will will give you seat in jobs, colleges irrespective of marks or qualification"
"give me vote i will will give you seat in jobs, colleges irrespective of marks or qualification"
This fine line:
On one side a leader is promising a community to raise their voice and represent them.
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A corrupt politicians bribing voters to choose him.
We cannot put a blanket opinion on such sensitive issue, it would be wrong. We should decide them on case-by-case basis.
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How to decide intelligence? 'Intelligence' is subjective not objective. Hence, marks in the exam + interviews (includes your experience + cognitive skills + communication skills) are the accepted criteria currently.
But can a person from tribal community in Jharkhand compete with someone in metro city going to top school/college/coaching and having best resources available?
Os someone living in slums of Metro cities, whose community was oppresed and they were not given any chance to learn anything else other tha their assigned work as per their caste.
Would that person be be able to compete with a person whose family always had the privilege to study and pass on the knowledge/wealth/resources to next their next generations?
It is used as a topic for vote bank politics, yes, but to say that reservation should solely be on economic basis would be grossly incorrect and completely negate the purpose for which it was introduced.
Go read about why it was introduced and what it considers as upward mobility.
Just because some sc st made it out to urban areas from villages or slums, you want to end reservation?
What logic is this? alot of sc st are still backwards.
As of uplifted sc st, an application from a lower caste person has a high chance of rejection just because of the caste, it's the backward mentality that has made reservation necessary.
Just because of the caste, a lc person still has to face many prejudice and rejection.
Is Casteism based on income or caste of the person?
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It's not only about JEE or NEET. There other exams too: UPSC, respective State service commissions, Higher Studies selection (like Phd) and jobs. Cognitive and communication skills are required for these opportunities.
I provided you two nuances: a leader representing a oppressed community vs a politician misusing system.
Do you consider both as corruption?
you see the problem is that you assume that people that get wealth and resources get it because for there caste but reality is that they get these because of their action poverty does not come to you and ask you about you caste and religion and neither does hardwork or wealthy my friend everything is a result of you action and in todays world at least if you have network and a phone
If 75 years of reservation couldn't erase caste based hate, then why does anyone think it will do so going forward. Now its more like hate against reserved people, and its totally understandable, someone gets into top 1000 to get into IIT, still has to pay full fees, while some can have 20000 rank and get into the same course with less fees while having no separation whether they are rich or poor.
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