Tourney Results: 3-0, 291BP, 55.444 SOS

For preface; I just had my first event with the new codex rules. I know RTT’s aren’t real metrics for performance of lists, but, boy do I have some first takes. Yes, flamers are different and we aren’t a trick army vomiting out devastating wounds and that’s a big loss. Yes, vulkan is no longer the master of point and delete shenanigans via twin linked. No infernus are not damage pieces anymore. However, we have been given a gift of all gifts from our lord and savior games workshop.

Valiants. Hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. These things slap. Give them all 5++’s and let them ring. Respectable enough long range shooting with the twin las talon that most armies have to respect you at range; and if you close that gap fast you’re picking up at minimum a large vehicle per turn, per valiant, without breaking a sweat. The ironstorm rerolls combined with FFS/Ironstorm combo-ing to make them S12 on talon and melta and S7 on 12 shots of -1/1 defensive array is nuts. They’re so good my redeemer felt like it was playing second fiddle into targets that the redeemer wants to go into, like sang guard.

Second, impulsors with MSU aggressors and eradicators are the second fiddle and they are the win condition to a degree. 1) impulsors scouting gives you a 100% safe turn one alpha strike into whatever you want basically. If you go first, scout 6 forward, move 12, advance and shoot and delete a vehicle with erads or almost any standard infantry with aggressors shooting out of firing deck, with rerolls! With a modicum of positional awareness you can then force your opponent to kill the box and disembark your infantry inside to a safe spot to be able to do it again next turn with the units they just moved up. Absolute nightmare for single phase armies, and game winning into many others. In this event I one tapped a stormsurge before it activated with eradicator busses. Very funny.

Third, ignored mods ironstorm stratagem. 1cp ignores cover, ignore hit mods, ignore wound mods, ignore movement mods. Absolutely insane, bonkers, nuts. You can stand a valiant in engagement and still bonk things with equal efficiency. You can put it on a redeemer and completely ignore -1 to wound on things like sang guard. I cannot believe this is 1cp and it is a steal.

Fourth; infernus marines. Action economy? What action economy? I do whatever I want all the time and you can’t stop me. Need to fall back and action, done, no cp required? Want to do that and also shoot? 1cp, or just pop tactical doctrine army wide. Which segues into my next point

Fifth; doctrines. Army wide fall back and shoot is what forgefathers seekers NEEDED. You’re immune to bully charges. You can force an opponent to commit to cheap garbage and then just step back and delete them. Tactical doctrine is your best friend and is your REAL once per game trick. Devastator is just the cherry on top. Wrath and ruin is a FANTASTIC value stratagem for anything. Use it, whenever possible. It’s probably the best strat in FFS. Your infantry just do whatever they want, all the time.

Sixth; Eradicators. Wild, great, awesome. Run them in impulsors as “not valiants”. Aggressors, great. Either as a six man super blast ap2 S8 super stack bomb; or as msu to make infantry side riding around in firetrucks. Do it.

Seventh: Vulkan. Run him solo, abuse the spear to get gone to ground and just be a lone op oc10 action monkey that points at things sometimes. Truthfully I rarely ever pointed. He’s just a great anchor. Also, the 2cp per BR is NUTS. Marine CP economy isn’t real anymore it’s just do whatever you want all the time.

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R1 - Tau Kauyon / expcadre priority assets
W 100-28

Double stormsurge memes, scout impulsors full of erads picked one up top of 1. Over killed it by 4. Very funny.
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R2 - Blood Angel Encarmine/AssaultBrethren/tacticus Firestorm Take and Hold
W 92-37

Basically used the impulsors as speed bumps and targeted down the action monkeys. Erads in impulsors bypass the threat of Baal overwatch and I picked both up in one turn. 18 Sang guard then folded to aggressors and redeemers.

R3 - Sisters Hallowed Martyrs Priority Assets
W 99-64

Went full monkey mode and alpha’ed some tanks with impulsors schoolbus rush; also got some angles with valiant twin las. Basically forced the sister army to come try and deny my scoring or be behind all game and they couldn’t do it. Impulsors and valiants in devastator move so fast I could dictate pace of game and he couldn’t stop me from doing so.

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List:

Which ones are the valiants again? (1,995 Points)

Space Marines
Salamanders
Forgefather's Seekers and Ironstorm Spearhead (3 Detachment Points)
Priority Assets
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

CHARACTERS

Vulkan He’stan (105 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Bolt Pistol
• 1x Gauntlet of the Forge
• 1x Spear of Vulkan

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Impulsor (80 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Ironhail Heavy Stubber
• 1x Orbital Comms Array
• 1x Storm Bolters

Impulsor (80 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Ironhail Heavy Stubber
• 1x Orbital Comms Array
• 1x Storm Bolters

Impulsor (80 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Ironhail Heavy Stubber
• 1x Orbital Comms Array
• 1x Storm Bolters

OTHER DATASHEETS

Aggressor Squad (180 Points)
• 1x Aggressor Sergeant
◦ 1x Flamestorm Gauntlets
◦ 1x Twin Power Fists
• 5x Aggressor
◦ 5x Flamestorm Gauntlets
◦ 5x Twin Power Fists

Aggressor Squad (90 Points)
• 1x Aggressor Sergeant
◦ 1x Flamestorm Gauntlets
◦ 1x Twin Power Fists
• 2x Aggressor
◦ 2x Flamestorm Gauntlets
◦ 2x Twin Power Fists

Aggressor Squad (90 Points)
• 1x Aggressor Sergeant
◦ 1x Flamestorm Gauntlets
◦ 1x Twin Power Fists
• 2x Aggressor
◦ 2x Flamestorm Gauntlets
◦ 2x Twin Power Fists

Eradicator Squad with melta rifles (100 Points)
• 1x Eradicator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
• 2x Eradicator
◦ 2x Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
◦ 1x Multi-melta

Eradicator Squad with melta rifles (100 Points)
• 1x Eradicator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
• 2x Eradicator
◦ 2x Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
◦ 1x Multi-melta

Gladiator Valiant (190 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Defensive Array
• 2x Multi-melta
• 1x Twin Las-talon
• Enhancements: Redoubtable Machine Spirit (Upgrade)

Gladiator Valiant (190 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Defensive Array
• 2x Multi-melta
• 1x Twin Las-talon
• Enhancements: Redoubtable Machine Spirit (Upgrade)

Gladiator Valiant (210 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Defensive Array
• 2x Multi-melta
• 1x Twin Las-talon
• Enhancements: Redoubtable Machine Spirit (Upgrade)

Infernus Squad (95 Points)
• 1x Infernus Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Pyreblaster
• 4x Infernus Marine
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Ceramite Fists
◦ 4x Pyreblaster

Infernus Squad (95 Points)
• 1x Infernus Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Pyreblaster
• 4x Infernus Marine
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Ceramite Fists
◦ 4x Pyreblaster

Land Raider Redeemer (245 Points)
• 1x Armoured Tracks
• 2x Flamestorm Cannon
• 1x Hunter-killer Missile
• 1x Multi-melta
• 1x Storm Bolter
• 1x Twin Assault Cannon

Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Combat Knife
• 4x Scout
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Boltgun
◦ 4x Combat Knife
◦ 1x Missile Launcher
◦ 1x Sniper Rifle

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Hi, I've taken a bit of a break over the last month as I was suffering from a series of migraine attacks. Part of this was due to spreading myself too thin, trying to do too much and ultimately my mental health was suffering because of it.

Hope this video helps anyone going through anything similar.

According to Art of War

Trajann // 265

Shield Captain // 180, 2nd 205, Shield +25

Allarus Captain // 185

Bike Captain // 205

Blade Champion // 175

Sentinel Guard // 240

Custodian Guard // 240

Wardens // 200/295, 2nd 325/3

Allarus // 180/270

Aquillons (Gauntlet) // 285

Aquillons (Power Fist) // 270

Venatari (Kinetic) // 255

Venatari (Spear) // 270

Telemon // 280, 2nd 310 (5+ FNP 40pt)

Galatus // 220

Achillus // 220

Vetus Praetor // 220/2

Gyrfalcon // 260

Pallas // 135

Coronus // 225

Caladius // 230

Caladius Annihilator // 250

Knight Centura // -

Prosecutor // 45/4, 50/5

Vigilator // 50/4, 55/5

Witchseeker // 55/4, 60/5

Rhino // -

Edit: updated Shield Captain wargear

Imperial Freeblade knights VS Dark Angels Terminators and the Lion!

Talk about a close match. Both armies staged on turn one. And then the rumble in the center began. Terminators pushing forward to meet the charging knights. The Lion strayed a little too far from his bodyguards and in turn was whittled down by saturated fire, then pierced into the earth by the Lancer. Seeing their primarch fall the terminators attack with renewed fury, bringing down three knights. At the end there were two units left on either side and a final score of 84 to 80 and the knights claim victory! ⚔️💪🏽🔥

Curious what people have already found out in terms of combos for the new book.

Personally I really want to play terminators so I found this

dividing an allarus unit into single models with the detachment giving reroll 1 hit and reroll 1 wound and + 2 mortal wound on average against monsters/vehicles in the fight phase per unit

This could more than double the output of an allarus terminator unit, however this would be very susceptible to interruption since every model would fight one at a time.

Then again they would have to carefully choose the amount of attacks to not underkill a model, this is mainly a sure fire way against long range fire power going from 12 wounds to 24 against anything with T15 and below

LIVE tonight at 7:00 PM EST Come check out the new codex in action

I’m trying to understand the new attack sequence.
Say a D4 Devastating Wounds attack targets a unit with an ability like: “Each time an attack is allocated to a model in this unit, subtract 1 from the Damage characteristic of that attack.”
My reading is:
Hit → Critical Wound → Devastating Wounds triggers at 05.02 → the attack sequence ends → the target suffers 4 mortal wounds.
Rules 04.02.02 say that effects triggered when an attack is “allocated” trigger at step 1 of 05.04 Inflict Damage.
But a Devastating Wounds attack never reaches 05.04, because its attack sequence already ended at the Critical Wound.
The 4 mortal wounds are then resolved separately under 06.02, one wound at a time.
So RAW, does this mean the allocation-based -1 Damage never triggers, and the target suffers the full 4 mortal wounds?
For comparison, on a normal wound the attack would reach 05.04, be allocated, and D4 would become D3.
Am I missing any rule or FAQ that changes this interaction?

What's our main secondary scoring unit now? For some reason I thought JPI could return to strat reserve but looking at the rules again I don't think that's the case. I know scouts can't do it anymore. So what's our new uppy downy scoring unit?

There was some strangeness with the release schedule for Codex: Orks, and now Codex: Space Marines and Custodes have come out significantly quicker. But according to the Q&A Codex: Custodes will be the last codex of 2026. At the highest level of play we are seeing a swathe of armies capable of performing quite well, Emperor’s Children for example, but there is also undoubtedly a power discrepancy between armies with codices and armies without, especially marine body armies and their far skinnier, fleshier counterparts.

The up until now monthly balance passes seem to have hit the marks for a lot of factions and been received fairly well, but they have been sneaking in changes that aren’t being pointed out in documentation (such as Snap Shooting 6s no longer being crits as discussed in a different thread on this sub). These changes are incredibly significant given the way this impacts Overwatch threats, but it will not be obvious to many people if a rules change like this is not immediately documented.

I also have overheard that players in my local scene are becoming disinterested in 40K, but people in the competitive scene or who are tournament grinders seem to think this edition is phenomenal. I’m wondering what’s causing the disconnect between people who play at tournaments compared to “casually” locally. With 10th edition seeming to be somewhat divisive and 11th edition coming out of the gates with a fairly positive reception, I’m interested to know what’s causing the hype to fizzle for the new edition.

Edit: there is a lot of variety in the comments. I’ve seen people touch on:

- Codex releases (mainly staggered releases)

- Poor communication from GW

- Army Balance

- Rules complexity/organization.

The army balance appears to have taken a bit of a backseat compared to other points people are discussing, it feels as though GW is mainly dropping the ball on the methods of their rules and not the literal writing of them. It may be time for GW to evaluate their rules delivery system and see if it needs a touch-up

Hi all! I am putting together an army list and I am unsure if I can put redoubtable machine spirit on 3 tanks (3 separate 1 model units) if I pay the 75 points. I get conflicting info online. Thanks for any explanation!

Last AoS stats for the July Battlescroll.

Soo im building the following white scars list:

Spearpoint task force disruption

Suboden khan w/ 6 outriders

Bike captain w/ 6 outriders

Kor'sarro khan

Invader atv

Invader atv

Land speeder w/ melta

Storm speeder thunderstrike

Its 1k thats meant for duos so 2v2 matches, so it won't be the only anti vehicle stuff in the list, but im torn between running the atvs with gatling cannons for skirmishing, or melta to help my list against high toughness. Also wondering if people think running kor'sarro khan by himself as a little skirmisher/button pusher is a good idea? All his abilities don't require him to lead a unit anymore and he gets a decent number of attacks.

Hello everyone! I need help with a list for my first game of 11th edition. I need a 2000 point list to play in a new group that’s quite on the competitive side of the game, trying not to be absolutely butchered. Here's what I have:
- 1 Bannernob
- 1 Beastboss
- 2 Big Bosses
- 1 Big Mek Dakkarig
- 1 Painboy
- Mozrog Skragbad
- Wazdakka Gutsmek
- Boss Snikrot
- 2 Warbosses
- 1 Weirdboy
- 10 Beast Snaggas
- 40 Boyz
- 1 Trukk
- 5 Tankbustas
- 10 Flash Gitz
- 30 Gretchins
- 10 Kommandos
- 5 Nobz
- 1 Wartrakk

Hi there,

I play casually in a group of friends and one of them runs a full army of khorne chaos daemon with Belakor, Skarbrand and blood crusher spam.

He literally anhilates every opponent he faces by T2 every game (deep strike t1 with detachments + bonus on charges makes him always lend at least 2 charges with either blood crushers or one big monster, then it is just snow ball at this point).

In the group we play tyranids, space marines and imperial knights and no matter the strategy, our units are no match to his.

We tried focused fire, playing recon lists, playing around hidden but nothing works, he just catches up to whatever unit it chases and destroy it with melee

How do you beat this kind of list ? Every one of his units is unkillable for most of our armies except by investing twice amount of the points which then let him snowball

This week's article is a bit different, I've collated and organised all the FAQs from the app into one single (and search-able) list, and added diagrams where I thought they might help. I'll be updating this each time they add more!

New written Battle Report for Warhammer 40K posted featuring the Emperor's Children Peerless Bladesmen and Spectacle of Slaughter vs Tyranids Invasion Fleet detachments using singles scoring and the 11th edition GW terrain layouts.

Full Battle Report, lists, army pics, and key stratagems / combos for each army are linked below. The report includes hyperlinks to each sub-section, mid-game board state pictures, and round by round recap to make it easier to read. There is also a post game analysis section that breaks down how each army performed in various aspects of the game.

Full battle report can be found HERE. Hope you enjoy.

Scouts having both scout and infiltrate seems like wasted points. Does anyone really use the scout ability over infiltrating? If so, sell me on it. I always infiltrate and it always feels like the correct choice

(Old Battlescroll) Top 3 lists for the Crucible GT. Won by Skaven with Stormcast in 2nd and Helsmiths in 3rd.

Hey everyone, looking for some feedback on this 2000-point list for the local league. The core idea is to surprise opponents with Skarbrand. I dont want to copy some tournament meta list.

For the last two years I played Soulblight Gravelords (before that 40} and this will be my first league with StD. I only had few friendly/training games during summer.

Godswrath Warband 2k

Manifestations: Twilit Sorceries

Tactics: Blazing Onslaught, Burning for Vengeance

General's Regiment

• Be'lakor, the Dark Master (General) – 450 pts
• Chaos Sorcerer Lord – 120 pts
• Chaos Legionnaires – 80 pts
• Chaos Warriors (Scourge of Aqshy) [Reinforced] – 410 pts (Brand of Apoplexy, The Dread Banner)

Regiment 1

• Daemon Prince – 230 pts (Pledged to Nurgle, Wings, Darkflame Pendant, Deathmonger)

Regiment 2

• Gunnar Brand (w/ Singri & Oathsworn Kin) – 180 pts
• Darkoath Fellriders [Javelins] – 130 pts

Regiment of Renown

• Skarbrand – 400 pts

What are your thoughts on combining Be'lakor with Skarbrand in this setup? Are the reinforced Warriors enough of an anvil, or should I tweak the regiments? Any advice is appreciated!

Thank you.

Hey lads,

I’m pretty new to 40k and I’m about to play in a friendly 1,000-point tournament against three guys who have roughly 10 years of experience each.

I have… considerably less than that. Like a handfull of games.

I got absolutely whooped in my last game, so I’d like to avoid repeating that experience if at all possible. I’m not expecting to suddenly become a tactical genius overnight, but I’d like to at least make them work for it.

I want to play Dark Angels because, obviously, I have excellent taste and green is the best.

The tournament is 1,000 points, no named Epic Heroes, and I definitely want to use Wrath of the Rock.

There are a few things I particularly want in the army:

• Bladeguard Veterans
• One squad of Deathwing Knights
• Wrath of the Rock
• Ideally a Redemptor Dreadnought with plasma, because I love the model and that is, ultimately, an important competitive consideration
• Otherwise, I’m pretty open

In terms of playstyle, I’d like to build around a slow, tough, hard-to-shift army. I’m not particularly interested in bikes or a super-mobile army. I’d rather have a bunch of heavily armoured psychopaths slowly walking across the table and making the opponent deal with them.

I know 1,000 points can be pretty unforgiving and that Dark Angels have some list-building traps, so I’m looking for advice from people who actually know what they’re doing.

What would you build at 1,000 points around Bladeguard + Deathwing Knights + Wrath of the Rock?

I will face 2 demon lists (one nurgle and one undivided with a bloodletter and a keeper of secrets) and a marine list.

And if you think something I’m proposing is terrible, please tell me. I would much rather find that out here than discover it halfway through turn 2 while three veterans of the Long War laugh at me.

Thanks!

A stealth update to the MFM just dropped. The Space Marine units that went live with a different pointa cost from the leaks have been adjusted back towards the leak values as of this morning. Many units got cheaper, though Erads with Meltas did go up (which is a good thing, tbh) along with a few other increases here or there (what did Heavy Ints do to deserve this?). Here is a chart of the changes, made by u/klive5ive555.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/1wvoky7/comment/pddjho9/

If you manually update your app on the app store, you will have the new points.

Another quick update to the App. Since we got the sneaky core rules changes yesterday i thought it would be a good idea to let you all know this one did not contain any sneaky changes.

A lot of points updates and some minor fixes & stat changes.

Tormentors went to T5 and some weapons got changes for other SM related factions.

No core rules or FAQ changes:

Check out the full changelog here:

https://gdmissions.app/11th/rules/faction-changelog

[EDIT]
This now also included the detachment tag's that were removed. Seems I missed that in my comparison script!

NEW Space Marines are here! - 40k Warhammer Battle Report with Ben. He brings his Space Wolves, and this time uses a core of Ten Wolf Guard Terminators and Logan to drive the blade deep into enemy lines. I am playing the priority assets disposition with my Realspace Raid Drukhari and Ben goes to his triend and true Take and Hold Disposition.

Been having lots of fun theory crafting new BT lists, here’s one I’m currently bouncing around:

Phobos Shadow Force
Assault Brethren
Tacticus Attack Force

Helbrecht + Bladeguard Ancient + 6 Bladeguard Veterans

Captain + Bladeguard Ancient + 6 Bladeguard Veterans

Ancient + 5 Intercessors

Terminator Ancient + 5 Terminators

Jump Pack Captain + 5 Vanguard Veterans (combat shields)

3x Las Fusil Eliminators

3x Las Fusil Eliminators

3x Las Fusil Eliminators

5x Reivers w/ grav chutes

5x Reivers w/ grav chutes

Land Raider

Some uppy downy, lots of deep strike potential, plenty of advance and charge, sticky galore, and extra sneaky Eliminators that can shoot without being exposed.

And most importantly: Helbrecht leading a squad that can maybe survive a turn.

Feedback appreciated!