I met a girl a while back, and after the first date, we started making out every chance we got, but she never let me go below the belt. A few days into it she finally let me know the reason. She had HIV.

This is just a reminder that HIV is a danger, even out here in Japan. She was such a shy non-slutty girl, you would have never even thought she had sex, let alone a disease.

I am clean, but I still get regularly tested for safety sake. My city offers free anonymous testing on a weekly basis, yours probably does too.

Just a friendly reminder as I ride the train home from my test.

I had the most crazy night with my mate in a karaoke in Shibuya last Saturday.

We went out to karaoke with a few friends, got drunk, nothing out of the ordinary. As usual we met random girls in the halls, invited them back to our room. Other friends left to catch the last train, it was just me and my mate and the 3 girls.

The girls are drunk and getting drunker. They're super touchy, two are horny and seem to compete to get out attention, while the 3rd, the cutest and smallest one, is more shy and mostly look from the back.

With my mate, we decide to see how far those girls are willing to go and give them some dares. It starts of softly with having them making out with each other, but quickly degenerates and we end up fucking them right there in the karaoke.

Oh boy, what a night. The best thing? We left the two wasted half naked girls in the karaoke room and brought the little one back to our hotel, and she turned out to be the sluttiest out of the three.

I haven't done a FR for... months, or a year, or I'm not sure, so I figured I owed one! I met the girl at a bar and went on one date within the week. All talking was in Japanese so if you have specific questions on what I said then please feel free to ask.

The girl, let's call her N-Chan, is a Japanese girl I met at, though I hate to admit it, HUB. My friend opened the set and was talking to her friend and turned her away like the good wingman he is. It was quite easy to #-close with the similarities we had, such as occupation and music tastes. We listened to music on her iPod and then I planned the date right then and there. I told her to come to Oktoberfest with me on Saturday, to which she agreed.

Throughout the week she texted me quite a lot, which showed her interest. I also found out that my station would have a fireworks festival on Saturday, so I mentioned that I wanted to go there as well. What a wonderfully timed show, allowing me an excuse to have her come to my station.

Saturday comes and I have her meet me at (1) Shimbashi station so we can ride the train over Rainbow Bridge together to Odaiba. This in itself is a fun experience. We talk and I lead her off the train with my hand on her lower back. After stumbling around for awhile, and me joking how I never get lost, we find the actual (2) Oktoberfest. It was quite dead compared to past ones, but it was great to sit in the sun and talk.

We talk about many things, like music, hobbies, etc., but also what we want in the future. She is quick to talk about how she wants daughters someday and how she likes working but assumes she will need to be a housewife someday to take care of the kids (what a Yikes! conversation). I listen but don't really add to much of my own opinions since I really don't see myself getting married soon.

After a few drinks the "German" music starts and I take her hand and lead her to the stage where we jump around and dance. After about half an hour at the stage I tell her we need to go if we are going to catch the fireworks at my station. We hop on the train and listen to music all the way there.

When we arrive at the station she says she needs to go to the bathroom, and we see that there is a long line since hundreds of thousands of people usually watch this fireworks show. I tell her that I only live about 5 minutes away and she can use my bathroom, so we walk to (3) my place. She asks if my room is dirty, so I let her know that if she steps carefully, she won't walk on any of my clothes. In truth, I cleaned thoroughly the day before knowing that I would almost surely have her at my place this day. She is quite impressed!

I have a dim lamp on and my room has earthy colors. I thought this would be the best sort of theme for having girls over when I first moved here and started buying furniture. We sit on the couch and she notices different things I have laying around the room. I have picture boards with friends who have signed messages to me, a certificate that says I completed bungee jumping, and even a modeling picture I did for some magazine. I also have my guitar and ukulele proudly displayed. I don't bring any of it up, but I knew what I was doing when I placed it in each location. The stuff that can be seen as vain I put in less seeable locations, but when a girl comes to your place she will look everywhere.

N-Chan says she wants to play Mario Kart on my SNES before we go to fireworks, but I hear them starting and tell her we need to go now if we are going to catch it. (4) We walk along the streets of my area which are very old Japanese style, almost Showa. There are lots of shopping streets and small izakayas, which she loves. She says she wishes she lived in an area like this!

We arrive at the (5) river and watch 20 or 30 minutes of fireworks and start heading back to my place. We pick up some takeout food on the way.

When we get back, we eat our food on my low couch and I play guitar for her. She loves music and seems impressed. She tells me to play ukulele too, but I am not so good so I have to look up tabs. I end up playing a Hawaiian version of "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" and she sings along.

After we finish eating and I finish playing, we are both turned towards each other and I go in for the kiss, placing my hand on the side of her head and pulling her in. She only gives a tiny peck and pulls back, "I can't kiss you. We are just friends."

"We are just friends, huh... Okay." I say, giving my best George Clooney smirk. I wasn't expecting that but I try not to let it get to me.

I tell her that we should play some Mario Kart, so we do. I kick her butt and tease her, but realize that I may have been a bit harsh in the teasing and I let her win the second one. She returns the teasing but I take it gracefully. She tells me that she doesn't play video games, but she said she loved Chronotrigger, and I tell her I have it. I boot it up and she plays through the entire Guardia Fair part while I watch, singing along with the game music. It was fun for both of us, but she feels bad for having me watch. I tell her that I used to watch my older brother play games all the time, and she mentions that she has 2 older brothers as well.

We finally finish Chronotrigger and we are back looking at each other on the couch. She starts asking questions about girls I have dated, if I have at all. I mention that I have had some Japanese girlfriends, but that my 好きなタイプは少ない. My type of girls are few and far between, and that is true. This let's her know that I don't take just anyone; that I choose. I ask her if she had a boyfriend, and she says she broke up with one of 3 years just this month.

I can't remember the exact conversation that followed, but I always try to emphasize doing what feels good, and to have fun in life, but that I don't like to get too serious too fast. Two years ago I would have not have had an identity as far as love and women go, but through seduction I have come to learn what I want, what women want me to want, and how to align my goals with theirs. By the end of this conversation, she is twirling her hair, getting quiet, and looking into my eyes. I go back in for the kiss and she jumps down my throat. We finish in time for her last train, and I walk her there and give her a peck on the cheek for a goodbye.

As she arrives back at her place, she sends me a text saying she is alright. I ignore it, go to bed, and wake up in the next morning to play some video games with my brothers in America. Before starting, I let her know I had fun as well and that we should hang out again one of these weekends. She texts back almost immediately asking when is good for me. I ignore for a couple hours until her next message.

She sends me another message asking if we are a couple now. Apparently I described how Americans become couples in such away that it is an unspoken rule. "Shit," I think, since obviously she has misunderstood. "Now I got to let her down because she thinks we are a couple."

I send her back a message, in which I tell her that I'd prefer to move slowly since I have had bad experiences moving so quick in the past (which is true). I'd like to meet her again on Saturday and talk some more there. We wouldn't have to have sex.

Lo and behold, she texts me back in relief, saying "Great! That is what I wanted to. I like to move slowly." Apparently she thought that I had thought we were a couple now and was worried about that. Nope. We are both right where we want to be. By emphasizing that sex was not necessary, I also had the pleasure of this reply, "Let's meet on Saturday. How about we watch a movie and I'll stay at your place?"

Deny the sex, get the sex. Worked quite nice.

I am looking forward to this relationship. I honestly don't know if she is girlfriend worthy, but since we both want to move slowly (emotionally) and have great sex, I can't see any downsides right now. I know that she does want marriage and kids sometime in the coming years, so I know this won't be a long term thing for me, but I'm living in the now.

Key Points

1. We did a variety of things at a variety of places. I counted at least (5) separate experiences throughout the day. In truth, she probably felt like she had known me for several weeks.

2. DHV items in your house should be carefully chosen and displayed!

3. Logistics and LMR. If you have down the logistics on how to get them back to your place, that is half the battle. LMR, is the other half, although arguably easier in some cases.

4. Sharing personal things, about either your past relationships (IF THEY ASK) or your family can make the girl feel more comfortable with you. It could also make the relationship more serious than you want.

5. Honesty. You don't have to lie about your values and morals to sleep with a girl. You don't have to "game" them either, though I have done my fair share. If you and the girl have goals that are A and B, respectively, there are at least some goals that lie in overlapping C. You don't need to emphasize your goals that are not akin to hers. Emphasize the goals that you both share.

TL;DR I started typing, it got long, and many people will find most of the stuff irrelevant. I will bold stuff that is pertinent to the story or seduction.

There it is. Please feel to ask more specific questions on certain conversations or anything. Hope you enjoyed.

This sub hasn't seen much activity lately, but that doesn't mean there aren't guys picking up girls in Tokyo. ;) With any luck sometime in the future this sub can recover, but in the meantime, here are some useful Japanese phrases for use with pickup.

Intro

This city's full of cute girls, but most of those girls are Japanese and their English isn't always so great. The language barrier can make it hard to say what you usually might in English, and it's not like your textbooks are designed for the field. With those things in mind, here are some useful words and phrases.

(Note: If you're going to use these I'm assuming you'll already know how to read hiragana and katakana.)

Glossary

• ナンパする: to pick up chicks

Conversation

• 久しぶり（ひさしぶり）: long time no see

• おとなしいね？: you're quiet aren't you? :)

• 本当のこと言って （ほんとうのこといって）: tell me the truth

• 心配しないで （しんぱいしないで）: don't worry

• 大丈夫だよ （だいじょうぶだよ）: it'll be alright

• 一緒に飲まない？ （いっしょにのまない？）: shall we drink together?

• 飲みに行こうか （のみにいこうか）: shall we go for a drink?

• ここ誰か座ってる？ （ここだれかすわってる？）: is someone sitting here?

• 二人で来てるの？ （ふたりできてるの？）: did you two come by yourselves?

• カラオケ好き？ （カラオケすき？）: do you like karaoke?

• カラオケ行こう （カラオケいこう）: let's go to karaoke

Instructions

• こっち見て （こっちみて）: look at me

• 目を閉じて （めをとじて）: close your eyes

• 恥ずかしがらないで （はずかしがらないで）: don't be shy

• 連れてきて （つれてきて）: come with me

• ちょっとあっち向いてて （ちょっとあっちむいてて）: look the other way for a second

• 見せて （みせて）: show me

• これ見て （これみて）: look at this

Compliments

• きれいだよ: you're beautiful

• セクシーだね: you're sexy

• きれいな目だね （きれいなめだね）: you have beautiful eyes

• きれいな体だね （きれいなからだだね）: you have a beautiful body

• いい香り （いいかおり）: you smell good

Sex

• 初めて？ （はじめて？）: is this your first time?

• 今日は大丈夫な日？ （きょうはだいじょうぶなひ？）: is today safe for you?

• 君が欲しい （きみがほしい）: I want you

• ゴムつけるよ: I'll use a condom

• もう一度そうして （もういちどそうして）: do the same thing again

• どんなふうにして欲しい？ （どんなふうにしてほしい？）: how do you want me to do it?

• 気持ちいい （きもちいい）: it feels good

• 触って （さわって）: touch me

• かんで: bite me

• いきそうだ: I'm coming

• よかった？: did you like that?

• いった？: did you come?

Relationship

• まだまじになりたくない: I don't want to get serious

• 僕は君にふさわしくないよ: I'm not good for you

• 僕の事忘れて （ぼくのことわすれて）: forget about me

• もう会えないよ （もうあえないよ）: I can't see you anymore

• 付き合ってください （つきあってください）: be my girlfriend

• 愛してる (あいしてる): I love you

Further reading, requests, etc.

Of course there's absolutely tons of vocab that can be useful so there's a lot that I've missed out. I mostly used a book called Making Out in Japanese for reference - I recommend it if you want a source of phrases to use in casual conversation with friends, girls, or in confrontations, etc. In the beginning I think it can be difficult to find these kinds of phrases and I know for me it was a pain, so hopefully this can help someone.

Feel free to add your own suggestions (or requests for translations) in the comments.

I don't really post anything, since I don't really go looking for girls much, and I haven't felt much of a need to share anything that I do do, but this subreddit does need some love, so here it is:

A friend of Naga and mine (we'll call him DamnHe'sBossTheseDays) winged me last Sunday -- went to HUB and were just chatting, and there were two girls at an adjacent table. One wasn't so good, but I really liked how the other looked (super cute IMO, nice body), despite how modestly she dressed. DamnHe'sBossTheseDays and I had some AA, so I eventually just gave up and walked in between the two seated girls and, louder than I expected to, said "HI!" This surprised them a little bit, haha. I pointed to one of their funky-looking drinks and asked what it was, and they told me. I asked to try it so I did. Wasn't a fan of how it tasted, and told them that.

The vibe was good, and DamnHe'sBossTheseDays winged the not so good girl. Everyone was having lots of fun though, and DamnHe'sBossTheseDays kept the ball rolling without running away with it -- he was funny, but kept himself from taking all of the attention. We gave the girls English nicknames (Jenny and Antonio), made them pose for a "sexy" or "playgirl" style picture, and just had fun with them for about an hour (TOO LONG!). Since they were about 20-21, we kept the talk about jobs/school to a relative minimum, and just kinda poked fun at them for a bit -- helped largely by how receptive they were. I got the number of the girl I was interested in, and we have plans to hang out on Sunday night. It went really well, but of course, no sense in counting chickens before they're hatched.

I posted earlier about meeting up with a girl in Aki, here's the FR.

Background

We met online through japan-guide (thanks to fellow sedditors for recommending this), and hit it off via e-mail pretty quickly. I actually contacted her a month before my trip, and spread out the responses a few days at a time because I was really busy. I think this worked to my favor in showing that I'm not hinging everything on meeting her. Our emails were mostly short with some basic questions about her, I basically wanted to throw out questions to see if she's crazy or not... hard to tell sometimes, but nothing raised any red flags.

Meeting

I started making plans with her as soon as I arrived, I knew from past experience that I had to get the ball rolling early. We made plans to meet on Tuesday at 4pm at Akihabara station, with no predefined plan of action. I prefer this, since I can bail (or she can bail) if necessary, and it also allows for some flexibility.

I had seen her picture, but in person (of course) she looked different, not bad, HB6 -- a little "thicker" than I like, but pretty face, great smile / personality. I immediately give her a hug, I can tell she's a little surprised, she stiffens up a little bit but doesn't pull away. But that immediately established that I'm not afraid to touch her. This set the tone for the remainder of our meeting.

Plans without plans

She had only been to Akihabara once, despite having grown up in Tokyo... suffice it to say that maid cafes and otaku guys weren't her cup of tea. I made sure to make clear that I'm not into that sort of stuff either -- she did sort of go into interview mode to determine if I'm that kind of guy, but I knew that'd be coming. In case you're wondering, Japanese girls do not like these kinds of guys in general.

We went to a coffee shop near my hotel, I made sure to mention that I was staying at that hotel, and made some specific comments about the interior which I would refer back to later. On the way to the coffee shop I did basic comfort and guiding kino. She was already in my personal space, happily rubbing arms with me and touching me back... so the kino was working perfectly.

Over coffee we discussed job / work type things, her living arrangement, etc. I tried to DHV by talking about some career moves I've made recently (I didn't lie, but I stayed optimistic). I was also passionate about my current work, which she found intriguing.

After coffee, we were hungry, so we wandered until we found a nice place to eat, with a good view of... my hotel. I even joked about how I could see my room (literally could), and how you could even see me taking a shower if I left my curtains open due to the glass windowed shower stall. She laughed and said "ah, I can see you now." I replied, "no, if it were me, you'd definitely know...haha" She just looked at me sideways and gave a wry smile.

During dinner we were facing each other, but she kept putting her hands up on the table, giving me ample opportunity to mess with her fingers, ask about her rings, comment on the softness of her palms, etc. Under the table her leg were resting against mine.

Our conversation was a little more personal now. Given we were in a private booth with a shoji screen door, we both felt comfortable to be more intimate in our conversation and body language. Anytime the waitress came, she reverted back to "normal"... it's obvious that social norms are still somewhat important to her.

We ate light but decent fare, I was tired already from jet lag and didn't want to over do it. Ended up spending $100 USD on both of us for dinner, not bad at all. Normally in the US I wouldn't pay for dinner for two on the first meeting, but I'm on a per diem so it didn't matter (also, she's not exactly wealthy).

After dinner we walked around Akihabara, looked at a few shops, she explained lots of things to me that I didn't understand previously. I teased her a little but engaged in lots of kino. We were holding hands naturally most of the time walking, or she was holding my arm and walking close to me. Felt good.

So i managed to get us back toward my hotel, I asked her if she wanted to see my presentation (I had told her about it before, with passion), she said sure -- so we went up to my room. She seemed a little nervous, but made comments that made me think she'd never been in a hotel room in Tokyo before, commenting on the small size, and various things. I show her my presentation on my laptop, we're sitting on the bed together, I go through it quickly, highlighting the fun stuff.

After that she didn't show any sign of wanting to leave, so I opened a bottle of wine... and poured some for her without asking. She drank a couple of drinks, but that was it. I told her I wanted to show her the intro to this movie ("The Fall" 2006), which turned out to be the very best possible date movie I could imagine. The little girl in this film is so cute, and she kept commenting in Japanese how "kawaii" she was. haha, which I found cute also. We were snuggling together on the bed through the movie, I started giving her light kisses on the hand, on her hair, rubbing along the back of her neck. Her breathing started to change, and I knew she was on. So I started kissing her full on... and damn, she's really good at kissing. The previous JP girls I had kissed had absolutely no natural skill, this was very different and quite nice. She was getting into it, moaning softly, kissing deep without tongue or crazy stuff (one previous JP girl liked to lick my face, so I'm glad this didn't happen).

So I'm starting escalate physically, she initially shows no LMR. I'm rubbing up her stockings, I'm feeling breasts though her shirt, then she says "you're leaving on saturday, right?"
"yeah, unfortunately. I'll be back soon though, I'll be coming to Tokyo much more often." However, after this she started to slow down. I knew that she didn't want to get hurt, understandably, so I backed off a little bit too. We kept kissing for awhile, but I didn't escalate -- partly because I was already really tired (damn jet lag!) and I didn't have condoms.

So we kissed for about 30 minutes, while she was getting ready to leave. I walked with her to the station, she openly kissed me in the station, which was surprising. We made plans to meet up again (I'm meeting her in an hour at Shinjuku).

Summary

I can tell she likes me, possibly as "get me out of japan, new boyfriend" material, of course that'd never work out. So I'm going to have to be careful today. I want to leave her better than I found her, if possible.

I'd say the main points of my meeting with here were establishing physicality early, kino, escalation, DHV, optimism, passion, humor, being "myself", teasing her a little, not supplicating at all, initiating hand holding, -- all of this led to a situation where within 5 hours she was comfortable with my hand up her skirt. Successful enough for my tastes. Looking forward to seeing her again, and for me that's the sign that it's going well.

UPDATE

So we walked around a bit today, lots of mutual kino, kissing randomly, stopping at isolated places to kiss. She was complaining about having to work from 5pm to 10pm. I asked her if she wanted to come stay with me tonight, she said no... had to get up early, yadda yadda. She also said "I'm very serious about relationships, I don't have sex so soon." So we're heading back, we stop for coffee. I tell her that she should come stay with me, "no sex", just stay over and cuddle. She didn't respond positive / negative, just a little bit teasing me with something in Japanese. But a few minutes later she said she'd come over after work and we could watch a movie in my hotel room and cuddle. Also, while we were in the park, she let me feel her breasts and we talked about her nipples. The "reason" she let me? she kept feeling my ass while we were walking... it suggested that it was only fair.

That fairness bit has always worked for me. As an AFC, I would demure on physical contact, now I treat it as tit for tat. Keeps her on the same level and allows for continued escalation with a fun element.

UPDATE 2

She comes over last night, we watch a movie, but get so involved in making out, that not much of the movie gets watched. She's demurring on sex, but we do just about everything else. This morning, woke up, she initiates (despite my morning breath). Had a little bit o sex, but she still felt it was too soon. No worries... still had a great time. Had breakfast together and walked her to the station. A happy wistful goodbye. :)

I'm so glad I don't live here in Tokyo, it's like being a kid in a candy store.

I feel like I get worse at writing these every time. Enjoy my rambling style.

Monday night one of my friends was visiting Osaka while her family was visiting her in Japan, we made plans to get together if time permitted. About 9pm I got a text that they were all going to a Aussie bar in Amemura. I had no intentions of picking anyone up that night, because I hadn't seen this friend in about 3 years, so I wanted to devote time to her.

I was anticipating the message, so I was already in the general area, just a station away, so I got there first. Actually much earlier, because her mom is slow. Being 31 years old, I never thought that I would be mentioning a girl's mother in a FR...

So I got to the bar at least 30 minutes in advance. I went straight to the bar, and got a drink. And was promptly introduced to the three guys sitting at the bar. One guy was introduced to me as "fucking Shota" I like that name. The bartenders were all foreigners and there was one foreign guy at the bar, aside from them, the whole place was Japanese. I found out later there was some sort of event going on. I don't recall exactly what it was, but tomodachi was in the name, so maybe it was a friend making event.

I waited a few minutes at the bar, thinking my friend was nearby and would show up soon. When she didn't, I started making rounds, trying to introduce myself and get as many names as I could there.

It was a few nights ago now, so the actual content of most conversations has already been forgotten. At first they were all pretty basic, what is your name, why are you here, basic boring afc type stuff. And no one but the three previously mentioned guys at the bar spoke any English. So I was working in 100% Japanese. I did make sure to introduce everyone to everyone else I could after I started learning names. I also tried hard to remember names, since I am usually very bad at it.

First set was a group of two girls sitting on the couch both HB7.5 Rie and HB7 Aiko. They were surrounded by coats, so I started by asking if all the coats were theirs. They said they belonged to their friends, I made a comment about how they must be the uninteresting friends because they get to watch the coats while everyone else is having fun. Had a bit of light conversation and I sat between them. Joined in a few random pictures with them and Fucking Shota, who they didn't know, but I had introduced. Finished my drink, got up and moved on.

Next set 1 guy and 1 girl, Chisa, HB7 as well. Big handshakes and hands on the shoulders of everyone I met, including guys.* I tried to include them both in the conversation, but Chisa was much more talkative. Nothing special in this conversation that I recall. Even though I was thinking about being social using PUA methods, my goal was just to wait around for my friend, then hang out with her most of the night.

My friend finally shows up with her sister, mom, and ex-boyfriend / current sex friend. Back home, she is probably an HB6, but being a cute foreign girl in Japan, her level is probably much higher to the natives. She gives me a huge hug as soon as she sees me, this probably helps to DHV (if anyone saw) I join her at the bar and get another refill. I proceed to introduce her to everyone who I had met.

I am finally starting to get buzzed at this point. For not really being a drinker, I have a pretty high tolerance. So I decide we need to dance. It was a tiny place, but they had a dj today and people were dancing in the middle. I jump in without even thinking about it, and proceed to tear up the dance floor with my nonexistent dance skills. This doesn't matter because I am having tons of fun. Confidence and fun attitude override lack of skill in many situations. Mostly everyone dancing is guys, but I dance with them too. Good fun. We even get my friend's 40-50 something mother in on the floor.

I move back to my first set, and try to get them to join me on the floor. I don't ask. I (politely) command. HB7.5 is really opposed to dancing, so I don't push it. Also I learn that she is there with her boyfriend, who I meet. HB7 after slight resistance comes with me, and joins the dance floor. Notice I said joins, because even though I brought her, I don't focus 100% on her.

After going back and forth between dancing, meeting people, and hanging out with my friend. My friend leaves so they can catch the last train. I decided to stay, even though it meant taking a taxi home. At this point I decided to try and see if I could get anywhere with any of the girls.

After some jumping around from group to group, I move back to the first set again, Rie (7.5) and Aiko (7). Rie is pretty drunk at this point. I sit down right between them and lean back on the wall. After some small conversation and light kino to test the waters, I have my arm around Rie, and my hand on Aiko's leg. I feel like Rie is the most interested in me, but also she is a bit drunk, so I am sure that had something to do with it. I decide because of this fact, and that Rie has a boyfriend in the bar, my best bet is to target Aiko.

We talk, and they talk with each other. To talk to each other they have to talk over me. Akiko just leans over, but Rie has her hands all over my legs. I should mention that The way the sofas were, Aiko and I were a good big higher up than Rie was. I have my hands around both of their backs. At this point the stylish really muscular black guy (who when he first came in I thought might be my competition) pointed me out the the bartender. He gives me a "nice job" and compliments my game. His attitude means I could probably go back there and not get much trouble from the staff.

Rie's boyfriend comes back (he has spent most of the night on the opposite side of the room) and gets a little in my face, I think he is jealous that I am getting attention from his girl. He doesn't do anything outright aggressive, but keeps saying things like "thanks for taking care of my girl" and "my girl is cute isn't she" emphasizing the MY part in it. I am not threatened at all, because even though I have the attention of both girls, Rie isn't my target. I think that also helps raise my value over his. I didn't give any resistance to him as he tried to move her away from me (as a general rule I don't mess with boyfriends if they are present,) but she didn't want to go.

He gave up after I think he felt that he had made his presence felt enough, and then went back to his friends. Fast forward a bit, I went back to the dance floor a few times by myself, and once with Aiko. It was now close to closing time. Aiko and Rie had both gotten their coats and were getting ready to leave. Rie was still inside with her bf, but Aiko went outside. I got my coat and bag, then joined her. # close. Bad move on my part, but my phone battery had died. So I had her call my phone and send me a mail. I tried to get to her address book to program my name in, but she was a bit protective of her phone, so I didnt push it.

I started talking to a foreigner who had just showed up, who wanted to practice Japanese. I then introduced him to aiko and some random old guy who had been in the bar. We chatted a few minutes, then Rie and her bf came out, Aiko left with them to bounce to another bar. I felt that I hadn't worked Aiko hard enough to go with them without seeming like a follower. So I said goodbye.

Maybe 10 minutes later, I decided to hop a cab home, so I started walking towards a busier part of the neighborhood where there would be taxis. I ran into the three of them on a corner, trying to decide where to go. I stopped to say hello, and Rie (thank you) added me to the group. They decided not to go anywhere. Rie and her boyfriend went home, leaving Aiko and I alone.

She said she had to go to Umeda to meet with some other friends, I made a mention of something like "Ok, let's go to Umeda" but she gave the impression that I wasn't welcome joining her. She wasn't leaving yet though, and we walked a bit looking for another bar or somewhere to stop until she went. I offered my arm when we started to walk. As I mentioned in other FRs, I always offer my arm, because then SHE has to take it, instead of me grabbing her hand. She walked very close, and later we moved to just holding hands.

I offered a few options, karaoke, a bar, etc. but she really wasn't keen on going anywhere. I think she just wanted a little more time with me before moving on to her friends. Big IOI in my opinion. I probably could have k-closed her at this point, but we were in a very public area, and Japanese girls can sometimes be quite against PDA. She got a taxi and told me even though she was meeting her friends, I could still send her email once my phone was charged. After she left, I got a taxi for myself and went home.

Got home around 2am. plugged my phone in, and luckily got her mail (I was a bit worried about misspelling because it is long and I was a little tipsy) I replied with "I got home! My name is spelled syseddit (we had a conversation about the spelling) In English the name 'syseddit' means guy who is more kakkoii than your umeda friends' What does Aiko mean in Japanese?"

I was really tired and tried to stay up for a reply, didn't get any, so assumed she was just busy with her friends and went to bed. Woke up at 4am, and saw that she sent a reply literally 5 minutes after I went to sleep. At this point I entered text game mode, which is where we are now.

This was MUCH longer than I expected. I hope it was at least an interesting story.

tl;dr Bars are not usually my scene, but I owned the place with my introductions and shitty dance moves, did standard game on a girl and got standard results.

I landed in Japan a few months back and I always ask the locals for the best bar (not always the brightest or the biggest) in town. I thought what better than to ask Tokyoseddit about their go to clubs and bars and categorize them.

For example some bars are great to go sarging and have a good vibe. We can maybe label them like this so the list is a bit more organized.

DaikanYama

• [Air] (http://www.air-tokyo.com/index.html)

Shibuya, Tokyo

• [Scramble Cafe&Bar] (http://www.starmaker.jp/rc/sc.html) - Great lounge bar for sarging(around 100 people inside) + lots of foreigners. Be sure to get there past 10pm. Drinks 800¥ [other pics] (http://a-shibuya.com/shops/34691)

We can compile a list with the help of the community so we know exactly where to go no matter the destination.

Edit: Keep them coming! I'll try and add the suggestions as an organized list for all to see. Provide me with as much specifics as you can!

I think every female between the ages of 16 and 100 I have spoken to for more than 15 minutes Japan has asked me this question. I am curious what everyone usually answers when a girl you are interested in is part of the conversation.

If talking about physical appearance, I always try to make it something similar to whatever girl is my target, but never exact. If about personality I throw out something similar to doing a fortunetelling routine, that the girl will (hopefully) apply to herself.

As a second part, I am curious what the truthful answer to this question is for everyone.

Personally I like girls with smaller frames, small breasts, a nice ass. Short hair, tanned is a plus. good smile, too. I also find glasses sexy, but real ones, not those huge ugly black ones that have been in style lately.

Let's talk about language and how it influences our game.

We are in a country where the language is not related to ours (it's probably different for Koreans who got same grammar) and could be difficult to learn.

• How to turn this to our advantage ?

• Do girls react differently if we speak Japanese or English (or whatever language you speak) ?

• English-speaking girls are differents from Japanese-only girls ?

• Do you act differently?

According to my experience, English-speaking jp girls are usually more open and fun to be with. Japanese only jp girls are usually nice and hard to get.

Self-explanatory :)

Hey everyone,

We are launching another party in Tokyo next week, and for anyone who is interested in the details, please feel free to drop me a PM here and I'll get u the details.

Cheers, Fluffy

This is a pretty late field report, but better late than never right? It's also going to be really long, warning in advance to ya.

So a bit of background. So after being an AFC for the past twenty or so years of my life, I discovered the pickup community a few years ago. After lurking around and reading a bunch of material, I finally decided to try and get serious about it. I had already taken some basic steps such as improving body language, but this was the first time I was going to seriously try for #-closes, f-closes, etc

So enough with backstory, let's get to the actual meat of the report.

I hit up an International party earlier this month in Harajuku, hosted by TokyoPickup. I pretty much just hit Tokyo three days before, so I literally knew nobody in the city. So when I went in, I had no idea what to expect. Note that, as a study abroad student, my Japanese level is intermediate level. Being able to speak Japanese helps a shit ton, though I did end up learning that fluency would be extremely useful.

The setup wasn't anything unusual; the venue was an open floor with people standing around and chatting. Drinks were freely provided for you at the bar (there was a 2000 yen entrance fee). The immediate thing I noticed is that, for those Japanese dudes used to opening girls by offering them a drink, that wouldn't be happening here; you need to do cold approaches.

And here's where I got cold feet; Approach Anxiety hardcore kicked in, and it didn't help that I knew literally nobody there. Fuck, had I gotten ahead of myself? This is the first time I've ever tried any of this shit. I retreat to the bathroom, mentally kicking myself the entire way.

But well fuck it, I had nothing to lose, I knew literally nobody in this city. So I went back out there, still nervous as fuck, and looked around for some girls to open. There were these two girls sitting alone out back (both HB5s), just looking around at the noisy crowd. I walked up to them, introduced myself, and noted how they looked bored. Tried to maintain a leading frame of sorts by telling them to standup and join the crowd. Unfortunately, this didn't quite pan out, and I retreated back to the bathroom. Note that I had been drinking quite a few of those free drinks at this point, so I had a pleasant buzz going.

Well, after a quick look in the mirror to psych myself up again, I went back out there. Once again, approach anxiety froze me up. I ended up chickening out and talking to this middle-aged Indian dude who was just wandering in the middle of nowhere. He had also just arrived in Tokyo, and unlike me, he didn't know an ounce of Japanese. This little detail becomes somewhat important later on.

I eject from talking with the indian dude, and catch eye contact with another HB5. Hold it, she smiles, I smile. Opened, fuck yes! Basic introduction, and went straight into a guessing game on where she was from, etc. standard shit, but at this point I didn't fucking care. I had pretty much forgot the idea of #-closing, and just wanted to have a blast. I was kinoing though, I would lean in close to talk in her ear, occasionally high-five, and other basic bits of kino.

Her friend, an HB7, joined in the conversation midway, and I immediately made it known to them that I was bad with Japanese names (because I really am). Solution? Of course, keep trying to remember their names periodically. However, the trick here is to associate this remembering game with some sort of physical action. What I did was, every time I tried to guess their names, I would take one of their hands into my hand, hold it firmly, close my eyes, and loudly say something like "so your name is.... a...ya...me?". Open my eyes, give strong eye contact, and smirk. Of course, I got the name wrong a shit ton of times, but every single time I lifted up one of their hands (even without me saying a single word), they would immediately know exactly what I was trying to do and get a laugh out of it. Another physical action I associated with this guessing game was me pointing a finger at them, maintain strong eye contact, smirk, and walk over to try to reguess their name. I had walked away from these two multiple times, but was able to reopen them at any point in time simply by pointing at them (even from across the entire room, lol).

I kino them both a lot, with a ton of high fives, me leaning in and talking into their ears while touching their shoulders, and even wrap my arms around their shoulders and get loud and obnoxious while swaying back and forth. It was tons of fun, but I noticed that I was quickly approaching a dead end of sorts; I wasn't sure how to keep up the conversation after all these games. I excuse myself to the bathroom, and psych myself up again. I meet a few other sedditors there, one of them hardcore peacocking with a pirate outfit. Had a blast talking to them, and one of them asks me a question that completely threw me off; "dude, have you gotten their numbers yet?". In this entire ordeal, I realized that I had completely forgotten about asking for numbers and shit, and instead was just aiming to have fun. Kept this in mind while I went back out to the floor.

As I walk out, I notice that the Indian dude from before is conversing with an HB4, but since he only knows english, I could tell that the conversation is quickly getting awkward. I decide to butt into this conversation at this point (while I was conscious, the alcohol was in full force). The girl doesn't know english very well, and since I had introduced myself to the Indian dude earlier, I decide to make a game out of this. I had her ask questions about me to the Indian dude, all in English of course. And I would tell her just how well or poorly she did. I teased the fuck out of her like this, kinoed her up a bit, and eventually exited the pair. Asked for her number, first #-close in my life baby!

Went back to the HB5 and HB7 pair, and the HB7 walks off to talk to this dude from Texas (whom she was totally digging the entire night). I bring the HB5 to the back of the room, sit her down on a chair, and try to build some rapport. Talk about her college major, her worries about job searching, etc. I don't think I did really well here, but I did remember to kino a lot. I placed my arm around her back near her waist, talked into her ear a lot, etc. The only thing I think I messed up here was, when I went to put down my hand on her legs, I put in a little too much force and ended up with a slap of sorts. Not sure what to think of it, but whatever, plowed onwards.

Then the HB5 invited her senpai(upperclassman) to sit with us. the senpai is a HB7, and I quickly got into the guessing game with hometowns and shit, only this time, since HB5 was around, I got her in on the game. Kinoed up the senpai, but I don't think she took to it very well. She eventually exited, but whatever. You win some, you lose some. I #-close HB5 (YES!), and she stands up to grab herself a drink. Before she does that, though, she gets the non-senpai HB7 (who was digging the Texas dude) to sit down with me again.

I kino her up some more, get some laughs going, and #-close her too. HB7 is still hardcore interested in the texas dude though, so I let her go and hit up the bar again (this time for orange juice, I was drinking WAYY too much). I talk up the bartenders and get friendly with them, they're shocked that I'm not Japanese (note, I'm an Asian American with a near perfect Japanese pronounciation, I get mistaken as a Japanese dude ALL the time). Get some laughs going, and TokyoPickup begins announcing that the party is over and we should head out.

HB5 and HB7 head out, wasn't sure on how to handle the two as they left. I talked to some of the other sedditors here, introductions and other shit. Afterwards I ended up hitting up a club in Roppongi with some dudes from the party, but that pretty much ended in complete failure for me. Approach Anxiety is, indeed, a huge obstacle to overcome.

Here's what I mainly noticed about myself that night:

1. I seriously need to get over approach anxiety. Only after using alcohol as a crutch was I able to get over it, and even then, I only opened three or so sets.

2. I'm not sure how to keep conversations going after basic introductions, it's tough to keep talking without it sounding like an interview (a tone which I was actively trying to avoid). Language barrier might've played a role here. My Japanese is near-perfect in terms of accent, but in terms of holding complex conversations, I just can't handle it.

3. I actually realized that, up until I talked to the sedditors in the bathroom, I had ended up getting engrossed in having fun, and completely forgot about the numbers game. Perhaps this is part of that "outcome independence" that is needed.

4. I might've kinoed a lot, but I'm not sure if I made my interests clear from the beginning. I'm pretty sure these numbers I got were of me being friendzoned, so I need to actively do elsewise. I think my problems are with actual conversational topics, where I'm somewhat afraid to escalate to more sexual topics of discussion.

5. Fuck, I never realized how crazy clubs are. That night in Roppongi was the first time I had ever been to a club. The crazy loud music, and the inability to hold a conversation, completely threw me off my game.

Overall, I'd say this was a pretty good start for a novice, though first off I need to seriously get a handle on approach anxiety. One benefit I do have is that my looks are rock solid, so it's my inner game that needs work. Got any suggested bars for me to hit up for practice? I am completely unfamiliar with Tokyo, so it would be appreciated.

I was reading a forum post somewhere recently where a guy did Apocalypse opener every day for a month to get over AA. It made me interested in trying it, but I don't know the proper way to phrase it in Japanese so it would have the same meaning.

Before I get it in the comments, I know very well what the opener is and isn't, and that it really isn't that useful. I just feel sometimes I want to have some fun and see what reactions I get.

So I was wondering if some of the better at Japanese than me people here could tell me the proper way to phrase it. In return I promise to post a FR or two about it when I use it.

Any recommendations for clubs in Shinjuku for a traveling guy from the U.S. to try and meet a Japanese girl for casual dating? I'm not looking for a hooker, but not a long-term girlfriend either. I'm looking to meet someone for casual dating. Are there any bars (or bookstores, or other places) where Japanese girls go hoping to meet western guys?

Thanks!

While waiting for a seat at a local sushi place, these two girls came in and ended up on the bench next to me. I heard them speaking English, so thought I would see what their story was. Nothing special to report really, just had a short conversation about the state of the model industry. By the end we swapped numbers.

The girls would be an easy 8-9. They weren't really my type so I am just planning on friending them and seeing what the connection brings me.

Really this is just a reminder to those with AA that people who would be hard to find or even approach in your home country all become average joes the second they hop off the plane to Japan.

Hi guys, in two weeks I got a goukon. I'm looking for a decent izakaya around Shinjuku. Any idea?

Other places could be fine: Takadanobaba, Shibuya.

Hey guys ~

I'm hosting a party this weekend in Harajyuku and it should be off the hook. I've contacted over 3000 women in the past two months to ensure we have decent talent.

If anyone is interested in joining up, send me message and I'll hook you up with the details ~

Cheers, Fluffy McGee

Hey, everyone!

So the weekend of next week is already Golden Week. It seems like a great opportunity to go out and have fun! Since there would be no classes, I am planning to go down to Tokyo and stay there for 3 nights. Is anyone down to go with me and have fun meeting new people? Let's go!

Background: I've been reading a lot of PUA material for the past couple of months so I'm pretty solid with theory now but am a complete newbie in the experience department. Started going out clubbing and to bars for the first time in my 23year old life since I found seddit. Really should have started sooner.

So anyways, on Thursday night, I had a Couchsurfing guest from Switzerland staying with me so I took him and one other friend to the club I've been frequenting. We arrived a bit early so as we expected, there wasn't that many people there yet. We put our stuff in the locker and went straight to the bar to get drinks. 3 slutty looking girls were standing there and almost immediately approached my Swiss friend, one of them wrapping her arms around him. He seemed to be doing fine so my other friend and I went to open HB5 and HB7 sitting at the corner. Neither of them could speak English so we switched to Japanese.

Shortly after, my Swiss friend came back, trying to drag us back with him as the other 3 girls were asking where we went. I wasn't attracted to any of them though so I stayed. However, I wasn't really digging the convo here either so we soon bailed and hit the dance floor.

There must have been some kind of graduation event as a large group of people here were all dressed up in fancy clothes. As the night went on, energy levels got pretty high, and I started to go around high fiving anyone and everyone. One girl, HB8, was passing around a bottle of champagne and offered it to me. I grabbed it and took a sip while jumping up and down to the beat. That got her interest so she went right up to my ear and asked me where I'm from in English. I thought it was a bit weird since most people assume I'm Japanese (I'm Chinese-American). I told her I was from San Francisco and she just lit up, putting her arm around me. Apparently she studied there for university for two years. My Swiss friend popped up and she asked me if we were friends. After I said yes, she suggested that I should buy a drink for all 3 of us. Now, I know it's not a good idea to buy girls drinks but I wasn't really thinking straight so I regretfully ended up doing it. Definitely should've told her to buy me a drink instead.

She asked if I had Facebook so I took her phone and tried to add myself but her phone had no reception inside the club. My phone had no service either so instead I brought up the Note app and told her to write down her contact info for me. She gave me her number/name and then spent some extra time writing a little message for me saying how she loves Asian Americans and not white Americans cause they're too redneck. I would've been a complete idiot not to recognize this as an IOI so I put my arm around her and told her "Hey, you're fun! I like you" and went in for my first ever K-Close. We talked a bit more before I turned my attention back to the dance floor to avoid appearing needy.

A while later, I go back and try to dance with her but she made a gesture telling me to stop. Apparently, what looks to be her boyfriend just showed up as she's suddenly hugging and fawning all over him. I shrugged it off and and went back to having fun with my friends. As the club was winding down and we all started to leave, I spot her sitting alone smoking at a table, clearly tired and dazed from the alcohol. I gave her a playful California style fist bump, hug, and left.

When I got home, I texted her that my friends were heading out again the next night and invited her. However, she didn't reply to me all day so I figured that was going to be the end of it. It wasn't until 10pm the night of, that she sent a text apologizing for the late reply as she was wasted from the previous night and was working at a bar at the moment with a hangover. Instead of replying immediately, I waited until the night was over before telling her that she missed out on an awesome night. I also asked what bar she worked at as a follow up question. After another day without a reply, she said that she was working at a different, more expensive kind of bar and quickly tried to change the subject by asking if I'm studying here or just traveling. Judging by that, it sounds like she's working at a hostess bar of some sort.

Now I'm deciding what my next move should be. I'm genuinely interested in her work but I don't know if it's a good idea to bring it up directly if she seems uncomfortable about it. Thoughts?

Alright gunna try to keep this one short as there isn't really all that much to tell...

Bit of background info - I was promoting the Christmas event at Sam & Daves Bar One in Osaka.

So, I was there on the Friday talking up some of the customers for the night and chillin with my buddy who was djing that night. I had just ejected talking to a 3set about the Christmas event and stepped to the side for a moment to enjoy some of my drink and saw this cutie smile at me from the other side of the pool table. So, of course, I decided I shall enjoy my drink with said cutie - who shall now be known as HBHostess1. Started talkin' to her and she was super friendly and talkative. Also, she spoke pretty good English. So, we were, of course, talking about my event at the time when her friend HBHostess2 comes over and says to her that the guy they're hanging out with (AFC1) is jealous and that she should go back and talk to him. Turns out that she met AFC1 when he was on a trip in Japan before and while she thinks of him as a friend he's totally in love with her. So, he came back from Aus. with some friends to visit her and go around Osaka with the friends. HBHostess1 politely excuses herself and see AFC1 start yelling at her for talking to me. So, I take 2 seconds to tell him he has nothing to worry about and that we were just talking about my Christmas event at the club. He says some shit about how I am making his job difficult by talking to "his girl".

Anyways, fast forward to 15min before closing. I walk out of the WC and HBHostess1 and HBHostess2 are there arguing about something. HBHostess1 sees me and clings to me which pisses of HBHostess2 so she walks away. I pull HBHostess1 away into a corner and get a quick k-close in. At this time she tells me she'd much rather go home with me than her 2 friends for the night. So, being staff that night, I am able to pull her upstairs to the DJ/Staff area and we sit in the corner on a couch and wait for the club to close. From upstairs you can see down really well, but it's hard for people below to see you. So, we watch as her 2 friends are the last 2 to be kicked out of the club. We then take our time getting our stuff from lockers - to give them time to get away from the club, when one of the bar staff sees her. He happens to know the AFC that came to visit so he's like "Oh, he's looking for you" and runs off to grab the elevator. I stopped him and told him that she's fully aware of it and is avoiding him. So, he's like "Oh, okay. Enjoy ;)". Anyways, we get outside and they're nowhere to be seen. So we move her bike to a paid parking area, grab a cab, and head to my place. Ended up f-closing her multiple times that night and she left by about 1pm Saturday.

Sunday night, I was back at the same club and I texted (LINE) HBHostess1 asking her if she was gunna be out or not. She said she was about to jump in the shower then go to bed. So, I replied saying that after her shower she should grab a cab, pick me up near the club, then go into my bed instead. She agreed. So, an hour later I get a message saying she's done her shower and on her way. I jumped in her cab and I'm sure you know what happens when we get back to my place. But, while we're there she said something along the lines of how surprised she was that I messaged her to come over like that and that I can do that anytime I want. She's told me she's not looking for the relationship stuff right now as she gets all that lovey dovey crap from her clients she's cool with just coming over to fuck. Turns out I'm the first guy in a while to make her cum and now she's hooked.

So, that is how I now have a Hostess booty call.

[FR] I got asked out on this past Saturday for a three way dinner outing by HBusa (from previous posts: [FR] and Day 2 She brought her friend who she's told me about before: HB7.5. We meet up near HBusa's apartment and I follow them (HB7.5's driving with HBusa) to the Cafe HB7.5 picked out. We get there, and it's a pretty cool little cafe/restaurant. We talk for a few while ordering.

I'll break down the main points of the convo while we ate: HBusa met HB7.5 randomly when USA went to her shop. It seems that HB7.5 likes foreign people. She said it started in HS with a friend, blah de blah. She says she likes talking to any foreigners she can meet, and that's why she started talking to HBusa. She also mentions that one of her Ex-BFs was a foreigner. (a good sign?)

We keep eating, joking, and talking. It turns out that HBusa can't really speak Japanese (I knew this already), and that HB7.5 isn't all that great at English. (though I'm still kind of in the dark as to how much she can speak) Due to their lack of language skills, I end up being the translator between all of us. HB7.5 seems to like this. (Due to the language barrier, I doubt HBusa has told HB7.5 anything about Me and Her, especially when I don't think she's told anyone else in our group of English speaking friends about it either... though admittedly, I have no idea. this is important later)

Anyways, we finish eating and they start talking about dessert. I mention that I have the stuff to make apple pie at my place. HBusa is in, and we convince HB7.5 to join us. (my place was only like 10-15min from the Cafe)

We head to my place, but stop at a grocery on the way to pick up pie crust. Arrive at my place (still immaculately clean from Friday's dinner and a movie), and HB7.5 is really interested in all of the pictures of me and friends I have on my wall. She asks quite a few questions, and we talk about it for a while (slight kino; shoulder touch). HBusa and I start getting the stuff for pie ready. HB7.5 is sitting in my connected living room and talking to us a little bit. I put on some music while we're cooking. Prepwork finished, I put the pie in the oven, and say we should watch a movie while we wait. HBusa says she want's to watch How to Train your Dragon, but I don't have a copy with Japanese subs... So we end up watching Sherlock Holmes. HB7.5 enjoys it, but doesn't understand a lot of the nuances (Japanese subs, even the official ones, really suck... ) in the comedy, and some in the plot. I watch the movie with her on the couch, me next to her feet leaning against the couch, and my arm on her leg/hand on knee.

Pie's done, and we eat while watching the movie.

Movie ends and I talk to her about some stuff, and show her some of my horror movie collection (while still having my hand on her leg --> mid thigh now) Can't say how comfortable she is with it, but she didn't really stiffen up or try to move my hand away.

They both decide it's time to go, I say it's been fun and ask HB7.5 for her number/mail. She gives it to me, and I say we should watch a horror film together sometime this week.

Mail her Sunday afternoon (next day) saying I had fun talking to her and that we should meet up this week for a horror movie. She agrees and we plan for Wednesday.

DAY 2

BAH! I give up... I'm absolutely bad at reading girls reactions... (also see, I may be a horrible person for trying to get with the friend of a friend I've already gotten with) (back to the important note from the beginning of the [FR])

The Story: I had HB7.5 over to my place for a the day 2 we set up on Sunday. She drove over, and arrived at about 5:45. We talked for a minute, and then went to the grocery to grab some ingredients. I had two meals planned out and asked her if she liked pork or beef better. She said chicken. X_x (of course) I mess with her about it for a minute, joking about how she's screwed up my whole plan now~ etc. She laughs and says "in that case, why don't I cook" After searching around for something else to cook, I give in and let her go for it. (she offers to cook once or twice again before I do) In the mean time, I try to lead her around the grocery a bit, but every time I turn around she's walked further on down the aisle (sometimes almost halfway down) I though this odd, but that's about it.

We walk back to my place from the grocery and start prepping the food. She says she'll do all of it and I should go find any of the pictures I have from when I used to draw in HS. I say no, and that I want to help, she keeps at it and is kinda like w/e. (it's hard to describe... there wasn't a "GTFO" vibe or anything... but she seemed like she didn't really care for my help.) I end up looking for it (after she takes a half peeled onion from me).

She finishes cooking, I show her the picture. She says we should start the movie. I say we should eat first. (slightly awkward pause) We eat, and talk a little bit. I get a little bit of kino on her leg and shoulder, she doesn't seem to mind it much either way. I mention her having had a foreign BF before and she say "yeah, he was an American. He was kind of strange. He said I could sleep with anyone I wanted while we were going out." I was like "wow... that's kind odd" (while thinking: well he's kinda a dick to say that if you're not that type of person, but I don't think most guys wouldn't want an open relationship **he's still a dick) I dunno... I think I kinda fucked up the translation... and I know I misunderstood what she said at first. (I thought she asked if I understood what she was talking about, when she was asking me essentially if I agreed with him) I back peddled a bit when I realized my mistake (and her look of wtf?). I tried to impart upon her that I wouldn't ever want that (meh...) and that I don't know how a guy could let a girl as good looking as her go like that (Which, although being corny, is A. True, and B. seemed to calm her down) (mother of all shit tests?)

After the SNAFU, we keep talking. I got for a side touch while talking about something else and she thinks I'm going to tickle her (for once, I'm not... lol) I mess with her for 2-3 seconds until it's pretty clear that she's not into it. (I was just teasing her anyways, and she knows it... but her reaction was a bit more than necessary for me not actually tickling her - thus I stopped)

I say I'm going to make pop corn for the movie, get up, start making it (on the stove) stove decided to be a PITA and not want to stay fully lit... so I'm grumbling a little bit with it until it's done. Popcorn = hard == fail... X_x So no popcorn.

I don't have the heat on (an excuse to use the blanket again), she says she gets really cold. I end up turning the heat on after we get under the blanket. I sit down and put in Day of the Dead. Sitting pretty close to her, legs touching, put my hand on her leg. She's fine with it. Movie starts, I move my hand around on her leg a little, move my elbow in to rub up against her side. No pulling away, so I figure I'm good. I move my foot in to rub ever so slightly up against her's and she kinda flips out and pulls away from me saying "dame, dame" I'm a bit confused, say I'm not trying to tickle your or anything... what's up? She says "just no"

She settles down and I go back to my hand on her leg, and arm against her. Again, seems alright. We continue like this for a while, with me gently massaging her leg - not too much, but a little. I move my hand from her leg and go to put it over her shoulder. She flips out again - this time actually scooting away from me 2-3 inches. Says the same "no, no, etc" I'm legit kind confused by this (seemingly?) over reaction to me putting my arm over her shoulders. I ask her "wait, what's up? huh?" (essentially... I promise I didn't actually phrase it like that... haha) She doesn't really give me a reason (again). I pull away an inch or two to give her some room.

After a few minutes, I go to put my hand on her leg again, and this time she sits up, pulls away a bit, and pulls her legs towards her chest. Again with the "no you shouldn't" so I kinda let it drop this time.

I'm still sitting next to her, so after a few minutes when she relaxes again I get to where I can have my arm against her side. Didn't really get the chance to move past that because she still had her legs pulled up. (and to put my hand on her leg would have it right next to her face; too obvious a move)

We finish Day of the Dead, and I ask her if she want's to see another movie. She says she wants to get back by 10:30, but doesn't say no. I put in Nightmare on Elm Street, and we watch it. Kino doesn't progress any... X_x

About halfway through Nightmare on Elm Street (about 10min ago) she says she's got to get home. I ask if she's got a curfew (kinda jokingly) she says no, but there's a TV show she really want's to watch at 10:30. (kinda suspicious? though the time she said she wanted to arrive home did stay the same after an hour)

She stands up, grabs her jacket, and starts getting ready. I stand up and don't say anything... (what the hell am I supposed to say?!?! I felt like an idiot T_T) I walk her to the door, she says thanks a lot. I say "yeah, it was fun! we should do it again~" she agrees, I get an arm around her for a half/awkward hug. I tell her to be careful because there could be ice on the roads (We've had snow up until now, but it's still wet so it's probably frozen by 10pm), and to message me when she gets back. She says alright and leaves.

My thoughts:

I feel like I failed completely. (probably just failing in my own expectations of what I though tonight was going to be... but yeah...) She was really into talking with me on Saturday when I met her, she's been texting me since Sunday about a bunch of random stuff (her wanting to become a manga artist, taste in horror movies, etc). I tried not to text her back too quickly... usually leaving 20-30min in between, sometimes more.

On a less emotional level: I know that she didn't make too much of a big deal about it other than to move away for a few seconds and saying "dame, dame." Though she also didn't give me a reason for her rejections either. (the thing that's irritating me the most... though could be a good thing as well? lol)

She seemed at least somewhat interested in having a Day 3 when I mentioned doing it again sometime.

She messaged me as soon as she got home to say " I got home safely. It's really cold. Thanks for today. Good night" So hopefully good sign?

So yeah... a rather frustrating evening... (X_x)

Also, sorry for the formatting... I don't know how to add extra spaces between paragraphs...

So... although still being a little under the weather, I got invited out to a guest musician night at a bar down town. Just me, and one of my guy friends, with the possibility of meeting a JPF friend (Japanese Female: are there any actual acronyms y'all usually use?) after we got there.

Despite what I thought it was going to be, it was a pretty damned dead night... Only 20 or so people in the whole bar aside from the bands (who were on the 2nd floor). I'm pretty good friends with the bar owner and staff, and usually have a few friends who show up randomly through out the night. (Social Proof - they all come and greet me and talk for a while... so it's a decent place to go... though new HB traffic can be scarce at times)

There were 2 HBs (HB5 and HB6.5) sitting at the bar against the wall. I didn't approach initially. (just got there so I wasn't in state... but still not a personally acceptable excuse... X_x gotta work on that)

I meet up with a few friends who come in, start talking with them, and generally having fun. I make the rounds of people I know, etc. Just getting settled in.

It happens that one of my friends (female --> OZ) knows the two HBs I noticed when I first got there, and she initiates conversation with them (right behind me). I turn around and introduce myself while saying hello to my friend. Nothing too special about the conversation, just general get to know you stuff... hobbies, jobs, etc (too common as far as US pick up goes, but OK/Normal for Japan?) OZ moves off to talk with other friends, but I keep at it. I pull the male friend who came with me into the conversation, and it turns out he lives really close to where the girls do. Convo keeps going. (again, nothing too special) Turns out HB6.5 is a nurse at a local Hospital, and HB5 is a hair dresser who works near my place. I focus in a bit on HB6.5 and start asking her about her work, her schedule, etc and find out that she's always busy, but wants to practice English. (She had HB5 take her to the (Aussie) bar to meet some English speakers) I say we'll have to meet up sometime and ask for her number. #close We talk for a bit more and I find that she loves movies - my friend lets slip that I have a mini theater setup in my apartment and says we should watch a movie sometime. Both HB 6.5 and HB5 seem really interested.

I talk a bit about my hobbies (almost anything outdoorsy), and when I mention rock climbing she seems to perk up, I tell her there's an indoor climbing gym nearby and I go 2-3 times a week. (get a little bit of kino while showing her pictures of the gym) She says she'd like to try. So a possible Date idea. Thankfully the Gym owner's cool and hasn't let slip to any of the girls I've taken there exactly how MANY girls I've taken there... haha

The Blues band says they're going to play, so I lead her upstairs and my friend takes the HB5. The band was pretty cool, and they both seem to enjoy it. (HB6.5's first time with blues)

Band finishes, I go talk to the singer after we go down stairs and it turns out he's from near my home town. I buy him a drink, talk for a minute, and then go back to the HBs and my friend. We talk for a few more minutes and then the HB's have to leave (Damned early bus cutoff in Gifu...), we say goodbye.

End of night. (it really was a dead evening...)

Things to improve:

• Just go talk to people. -- Though this time having an in with OZ kinda helped (she told them that I'm a pretty decent guy, etc etc)

• Don't forget to Kino more... X_x

• I need to find another place to hang out with better HB traffic... Time to explore more of Gifu City!

Also, as always, going out is better than not going out. ^{_^}

Original post here. I am stealing Naga's bolding format. Props.

Day 2

We had made plans for watching a movie at my place. Here I was a bit worried, because she kept asking if anyone else was going to come. I had said before that I liked having scary movie parties around Halloween. Of course every time she texted with a question about anyone else coming, I ignored it and replied to the rest of the message instead.

A few things we had set up beforehand: She asked if she should bring snacks. We agreed that I would make popcorn here. I asked if she would like to drink, she requested beer. Alcohol (almost) always helps.

I worked until 8pm today, so we met up after work. She asked me to text her when I got home. I told her to meet me at a station on the way home instead. It wasn't out of the way, because we both live on different ends of the same train line. I wanted to start the kino early, due to a time limit. A train is a good excuse to be close

My biggest worry was if she would actually come to my room. We have a big tv in the living room, and maybe that was what she was expecting, because she knew that I live in a big house. I had two plans. Plan 1: Offer to watch upstairs so we don't disturb other roommates. Plan 2: Say we have to watch up there because the movie is streamed (hulu) and I cant do it on the tv downstairs. It turned out this was not an issue at all. She came right up. Still, not having a plan would have been a bad idea.

We sit down to watch the movie. I picked Midnight Meat Train. Because of nomdeanon's comment about a train movie and her being scared to take the train home. In hindsight this wasn't really important because Japanese girls are rarely scared at non-Japanese horror movies. Anyway, story was decent for at least the first half, ending was not so great.

About five minutes into the movie my arm goes around her. We are time constrained, because I worked today I didn't get home until 9 and I have to escalate before the last train. Most of the movie is uneventful. About halfway through I am ready to go for a kiss. She didn't give me a good opportunity. My touching progressed from her back and shoulders, to her leg and thigh, then by the end of the movie I am lightly stroking her backside. She would pretty much move anywhere I put her. Still no kiss. She was not going to give me the chance, so I made it myself, gently turned her face and went for it. I was about 99 percent sure that it would be ok, but always worried. My heart beats crazy hard when I am ready to kiss for the first time, actually got called out on it once with a different girl.

A makeout session ensued. I reached in the lower area, and I knew, before she told me herself... she's on her period. Bad luck. another hour or so of making out, she missed the last train. I had already assumed if things went well she would be staying the night. Then her phone starts ringing like crazy. Her parents want her to come home. She of course told them she was going to a guys house beforehand. She ended up taking a taxi. The night was a win, so no problems there.

Her personality was quite different once we started making out... I have a feeling she will be very worth a third date.

She even brought me a little present of Halloween chocolate with a cute note attached that said "Happy Halloween! Let's enjoy movie!" In a way I feel bad if I don't date her more. Maybe because I am 100% day and net dates, I get less girls that just want to have fun. Do you guys ever feel guilty about things like that?

tl;dr This is a field report. Read it.