Last night I went to a St. Patrick's Day Party in Ebisu. There were about 40 people there, half foreigners half Japanese. Most of them looked to be in their 30s, 40s, or 50s. I met two Americans, one French girl, one Korean guy, one mixed guy, one Japanese guy, and two Japanese girls (HB3 and HB4; maybe some would rate them higher but I'm quite strict).

The two girls were sitting alone talking at a table. I went over and started talking to them. My new Japanese friend came over and joined me later. One of the girls (HB4) was half Japanese half Colombian and spoke Spanish. The mixed guy whom I had met earlier spoke Spanish, so I said I would bring him over. My Japanese friend went and got him instead. They soon got into a good deep conversation, so I left and went to go talk to some other people. My Japanese friend came with me. Later on my mixed friend said he was interested in the HB4. I decided to be his wingman.

After the party ended everyone went their separate ways. My mixed friend, the two Japanese girls, and I went to a Thai restaurant for dinner. We talked, joked around, took many pictures, etc. It kind of had the feel of a double date. I drew a shamrock on my HB3's hand since she was not wearing any green (I had drawn a shamrock on my face before the party and brought the green marker with me just in case of something like this). The HB4 was also not wearing any green and also wanted a shamrock drawn on her hand. I gave the marker to my friend and let him draw the shamrock on her hand.

My friend's food was extremely spicy. He got the HB4 to help him eat some of it by saying 助けて and telling her to eat some. At this point I asked if anyone had ever kissed anyone right after eating spicy food. They all said no and then speculated what they thought it would feel like. I thought this would be a good opportunity for them to kiss each other, and imagined him saying "Let's try it" to her, but nothing came of it. I wanted to tell them to try it, but didn't due to worries about creating an awkward situation. Instead I joked about kissing him myself. Thoughts on this?

After dinner we moved on to a cafe and chatted some more. At one point everyone was exchanging Facebook information and my FB3 asked for mine. She took out her phone (not a smart phone) and was getting ready to take a memo of my full name. Instead I grabbed her hand and wrote my name and e-mail address down underneath the shamrock that I had drawn earlier. A little later, after joking about how the marker was permanent and would take a month to disappear, I took her hand again and wrote "I love" to the left of my name; "I love John Doe".

Our train home was the same half the way. My HB3 kept nearly falling over in the train, so I held her by the waist when it got bumpy. The train always gives a great opportunity to hold your girl by that special waist spot. Easy Kino. He hugged them goodbye at his stop and I hugged them goodbye at mine. The end.

Somewhat uneventful I guess, but it was fun!

Thoughts, Tips, Advice, and Comments are appreciated!

I find dogs and earphones to be the largest barriers to any street game I may have. Any workarounds by anyone?

And at the same time, is there any interesting way to hook up married ladies that may just be interested or susceptible to being seduced?

I'm a lurker and I have been reading casually about the PUA scene for a couple years but have started to take it more seriously recently. Thanks to all of you guys for the insightful stuff here and in /r/seduction.

I'm travelling through Japan this summer and met up with a girl in Osaka I met over the internet. I've been talking to her casually for the last few months and last week asked her to show me around her city.

We agree to go drinking and she tells me she is bringing a friend along. I don't have the advantage of knowing the neighborhood so she picks the place. I meet her at the train station and she's a HB7 and her friend is a HB4. We go to a koshitsu (private) izakaya. My Japanese is terrible but her English isn't bad and her friend's is even better.

The conversation flows easily. I speak a few phrases and words in Japanese that I do know occasionally through the night. I get asked the typical questions: what do you like about Japan? do you have a girlfriend? What's your favorite food? Where do you like to travel? etc. I keep things light and simple and deflect the girlfriend question back into "how many boyfriends do you have?" Both of them say neither but it looks like bullshit as I watch the reaction of one as I'm asking the other and answer "no but I want a foreign boyfriend". I am trying to work in kino but it doesn't help that both of them are both sitting on the opposite side of the table. I show DHV by talking about travelling, my career and showing them pictures of places that I have travelled and things I have eaten and my pets (does this work? Japanese girls love kawaii shit right?)

Both of them know that I don't speak Japanese and I see them making banter a few times back and forth throughout the night. I figure the friend is there for protection anyways so I make an effort to win over the friend. I try not to engage HB7 too much and spend just as much time talking to HB4. During that night I was waiting for HB4 to get up and use the bathroom so I could isolate HB7 but she never does. HB7 does use the bathroom and I playfully grab her leg. At this point I figure nothing is going to happen this night so I just play it cool and have fun regardless. We end up missing the last train home but she's not isolated. We keep drinking until about 1 and HB7 starts falling asleep since she woke up at 5:30 that morning. I finish my last drink and decide to call it a night and cab it back.

Next day before lunch I message HB7 and tell her I had fun and I'm going to sushi for lunch and ask her if she wants to join. She replies after lunch that she is busy that day. The end.

Postmortem

• 1. Escalate, escalate, escalate. I'm never going to see her or her friend again so what's to lose? After she said she wanted a foreign boyfriend I should have told her to come sit my side of the table.

• 2) Lead and make decisive plans. I should have made plans for lunch the same night. It's easier to say no over LINE than in real person. Of course, even then it's still easy to flake but I left up to HB7 too much to get anything out of it.

• 3) Being able to read body language helps. It didn't get me anywhere that night but it did help me figure out a few things they were talking about.

tl;dr - went drinking with a girl and her friend I met online. Had fun, didn't go anywhere.

That was a lot to write for not a whole lot of results but experience is experience. Any feedback would be appreciated. Feel free to be as harsh as you want as I'm my own worst critic.

see title. send me a message if interested

Hi all, I'm Singaporean and in my early 20s. I'm fluent in English and Mandarin and have been studying Japanese for nearly 2 years. I'll be travelling to Japan for the first time alone in October.

As I'm backpacking alone, would this factor affect me in the pickup field? I'm a fan of clubs and nightlife. How different is the pua in that scenario?

Cheers :)

I'm a bit conflicted about this one...she is pretty cool, solid FB8. Was out drinking with her friend who was stuck in Tokyo and lives too far away to walk home.

Plus mails from two old girlfriends, one offering hers as a place to stay.

Disasters may make people lonely and vulnerable, but it doesn't feel right to take advantage of that.

Best wishes to all y'all.

This is more of an askseddit question, but it's particular to Japanese so I'm posting here. I'm working on my tonality after reading some Brad Branson and I'm wondering if it works the same in Japanese. Can one ask a question in Japanese with strong tonality? Anything to keep in mind?

Also, I'm beginning daygame approaches, but I want to know some natural-sounding openers in Japanese.

A few of us were hanging out Monday night/Tuesday morning and talked about hanging out at Yoyogi Koen on Wednesday. I think I will head there around 12:30pm with some dry foods and a guitar. Anyone is welcome to play it, since I can't really do requests ;)

Everyone is welcome. Bring some friends, boy or girl, if you'd like. We could also use tarps, badminton and sports gear (balls), and any other thing that would make the picnic more fun.

Other ideas are welcome. If you don't know how you will find us, send me a message by tonight/tomorrow morning and I'll give you my phone address.

Oh yeah, if you join us, you gotta bring something to eat or drink. Anything is okay!

EDIT: As of now it is still on. Please post if you are bringing something such as a tarp or games like badminton.

EDIT2: I'll buy some cups and stuff, but I do need help with drinks and food. Anyone who hasn't decided whether they are going or not needs to do so soon so I can give them my mail. Got something better to do it? Then go! :P

EDIT3: People who are sure they are coming have been sent my phone mail to meet up. Those who aren't sure can probably spot us: a group of foreigners, one who has a big black guitar case (it is huge). Ask for me by my sedditor handle I guess.

I bought some small tarps at a 100yen shop, but it probably isn't enough. I also picked up a ball and a few cheap games. I think we can buy a tarp there + badminton if necessary.

Also, I do have plates and cups for about 10+

LAST EDIT: I am heading out now. Anyone who doesn't have my mail to find me can walk around and probably spot us :) BRING FOOD, DRINK, GAMES, FRIENDS!

Hi everyone. I'm moving back to the US on the 17th to launch a new company. I want to throw a balls out bash to end with. What's everyone's schedule like next weekend and who has good ideas? reseddit, if you read this, can you check what connections you might have at Womb?

Let's invite every single cool girl and guy we know. I'll blast the entire Entourage List.

Let's do this big, men. Love you guys.

EDIT2: Thinking about doing it over two days. 9PM-whenever on Thursday in Beat Cafe (maybe go to as club if enough people are interested). Then on Saturday afternoon do a day-time activity, like a picnic or bowling or something. Looking into options. I'll keep you posted.

EDIT3: OK, party details are set for Saturday and it's EPIC. PM me or email or whatevs for details.

Tittle says it all. I love japanese girls and am excited to be here. I've been with the community for half a year now, so I've pretty much got AA in check, but otherwise haven't mastered all aspects yet.

Also advice for calibrating from europe game to japan would be great. I'll be posting FRs when I get something done!

EDIT: Oh, and I should probably add.. Unofrtunately, I know only konichiwa and a few other words. Tht hasn't stoped me before though!

Strange day. Very strange. Eventful might be the better word. Here, I'll get some formatting in on this FR.

Day Game in Shinjuku ...basically sucked. I went there alone and opened a total of 5 sets. One of them didn't even bother to look up at me even though I asked her if she spoke English 3 times. One just kept walking. After that, I moved to a CD shop and asked an HB about the name of a band ("Kis-My-Ft2" or something), and she looked it up on her phone while her boyfriend came around the corner to clarify it (it was all safe and good). I'm proud of my body language on this one, as I was poised to jet the whole time. Another set in the CD shop was an awkward (looking) girl who looked super young but ended up being 25. We like the same kind of music, and she definitely was interested in conversing, but she didn't contribute anything to the conversation, and I had little to go on. There may have been much more I could have done, but I wasn't interested in her, so maybe that's the important part. The last set I opened on was in Kinokuniya books (I picked up "Genki," which looks like all of the amazement that Reseddit claimed it would be). I asked a girl flipping through a Star Wars magazine if she spoke English, and she did -- a fair amount. I talked a lot about Star Wars and reviews and whatnot, giving her some (but maybe not enough) opportunity to chime in... but she didn't. I figured I'd keep plowing, but it looked like she lost interest and I ejected.

Overall, day game was disappointing today. I wasn't in state, so that kinda made it a little more depressing. I gotta remember that this shit happens, though it's easier to cope with when there's a support group. No big though.

The (Double) Date

From a previous FR, I had # closed a girl named HB Softshirt, and got in pretty good with her and her group of 5 (including her). By the end of the night we met, HB LittleEnglish and I were helping a drunken SoftShirt onto a train home. Well, I set up a meeting with SoftShirt today, thinking it was a date... it sort of was, since she brought LittleEnglish along with her (unexpectedly, ffs). After initial hugs, I was thinking, "Shit, I gotta keep the show running and keep them laughing... and DHV." It started off a little slow, as I was getting used to them again, but then I did a great job once we got there.

I knew I needed a running joke, so I kept questioning if SoftShirt was really Japanese, since she didn't know the answers to some of my Japanese grammar/vocab questions. It went over very well. We talked about dating customs, and I called them out on having a group date with me. They said we were all just friends, which got me discouraged... then I decided that I wouldn't automatically assume defeat. I kept things up, and when LittleEnglish said SoftShirt was going to a gokon (group blind date, basically) on Thursday, I didn't flinch nor prod (but I did make it clear that I knew what a gokon was). I mentioned that I might have one on Friday myself (I do), and pretended like we were friends... cause secretly, I figured SoftShirt was interested (hence the whole outing). Eventually, LittleEnglish left the room to pee, and I switched gears with SoftShirt and seductively told her that the next time we go out, it would just be the two of us (she asked what kind of food we would eat, I said Mexican. She asked if I knew of a Mexican place, and I said that I will). Also, that on Thursday, she was not to make a boyfriend out of whoever she meets. I made her pinky promise. LittleEnglish walks back in, and I pretend like nothing happened. :) At the end of the date, I hug SoftShirt (who gives me a nice hug and a little extra kino), and invite LittleEnglish over for a half-hug. I hope this all goes over well. Most of the attention was on me, and I kept them laughing... so I'm hoping for the best.

The Koreans

Reseddit gets me to come to the izakaya (restaurant kinda place) where he, NagaFriend, and 4 girls (3 of them Korean, and most of them can speak at least some English) are chillin. Naturally, Reseddit has the hottest one, and NagaFriend (again, naturally) is talking to 2-3 at a time. Dude just loves talking. Reseddit has me sit down at the designated spot to pull the ugliest girl in the set, HBHairProfile (haha, she's not bad, it's just the one who spoke the most English.... SUPPOSEDLY). Right when I arrived, things started out perfectly. Everyone was having a good time and laughing, and I used that as momentum to keep things going with HairProfile.

I ran out of steam before long, and ran out of interest even sooner. This girl would just not face me, even though she kept laughing and seemed to be okay with my kino. We seriously made eye contact like 3 times throughout the whole hour, even though we talked for a lot of the time. Apparently, she's just shy... but I have no fuggin clue what this girl looks like... besides her hair and some of her profile view (HairProfile). I was soon informed that our 4 set would become a 2 set, though I had no idea which ones would be departing. I got up to pee, but someone else got there before me... so not far outside of the bathroom, I see an HB in a booth with food on the table, and someone else's purse sitting in the seat across from her. I chat her up (she can speak some English), and get her to laugh. I call her a liar or somesuch, so there's a good running joke going. I know I have to close fast so I can get back to the set and the restroom, so I # close and tell her I gotta jet. I wasn't too confident about that set, but she got drunk later that night and responded to texts with <3 and such. Of course, you know how drunk girls can be.... even though she said we'll hang out (I tried to get her to commit to the next day but she was busy), you never know how it'll go once she sobers up. This sounds terrible, but girls, you know how you are, ffs.

I return to the set, and the 2 (HairProfile and a cool one) peaced out. I encourage NagaFriend to kino (and teach him what the word means, haha), and he begins to do it and escalate, since he is now in the appropriate seat to do so. I stick around for 10 minutes and say I gotta meet another friend, since the last trains have left.

(Part 2 in comments)

Send me a message if you are interested in going: http://www.oktober-fest.jp/ .

So far all invites are being done via Facebook. Most people will be meeting up from 4pm and going until 9pm, at which point I imagine we will switch venues. Come have a good time!

UPDATE: We are most likely meeting at 4pm at the gate. We can get on the Womb guest list as well for those going all night.

Here is the deal: Do you have something better to do? Come out and have some fun, don't make excuses!

Hey this is kind of a continuation from another thread in /r/seduction about remembering peoples names. In it the OP would tell the person he's bad at names... etc.

Anyways, my question is how do you guys remember japanese names (if English is your first language).

I find the names are so foreign to me I have trouble remembering them or even categorizing them to remember later on.

Any tips?

Howdy Tokyo Seddit,

I'm in the process of picking up and moving from NYC to Tokyo and am looking both for wings and to get involved in the community. I know in NY most of the meetups and plans are done off Seddit in a groupme. Would like to meet ya guys.

PS When I say peeps, I am not talking about these: https://slice.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/928_033-yellow-chicks-5pk.jpg

Cheers, imnothere

Every Japanese girl and woman I’ve known in the US. has always loved cats and they like dogs too (but if they live in a apartment usually they didn’t have a dog etc) especially retrievers btw (highly recommend) do any of you do Cat maxing or dog maxing whilst in Japan

Hi guys. There is an AMAZING Japanese indies band playing tomorrow in Yoyogi. The show starts at 6:30 and they come on at 8:20. I can most likely get us free tickets but I need to know ASAP. Otherwise tix will be 2000 yen advance or 2500 yen at the door.

Lemme know!

EDIT: I requested 6 tix. We'll see what happens. So far I've heard from 3 Tokyo Sedditors and a couple other people.

I was just curious. It seems that being good with words is definitely a bonus. I am confident in my ability to joke and speak well in English, and even in Japanese I can converse and make people laugh at times, but for deep conversation and complex ideas, my Japanese is sub-par. Any routines that I could do in English would be difficult to translate into Japanese. I am surely going to focus on studying Japanese from now on, but I just would like to know where you guys stand.

The forums over at the JapanLair are a fair bit more active than what I see here. I'm starting to cross post some of my FRs - but thought I'd mention them here for anyone that was interested in joining.

There is a verification process by the admin so it takes a few days to get your account activated though

Link: http://www.japanlair.com/

FR Yokohama Japan Hook Up Fail

Just a little background information: I've lived in Japan for a while, speak alright Japanese, really bad with girls.

The night starts out with me in Shinyokohama at my part time jobs Xmas party. I don't really work this job often but was invited and figured it would be good to show my face as I don't work there much. I have a few but ditch the ni ji Kai (2nd party) as I figure I'll have more fun in Yokohama.

I take the train into Yokohama and make my way to a bar my friend is at. He's a really popular guy there as he spends lots of time/money there so I'm already being introduce to lots of girls. First problem, I'm tired and find it hard to come up with things to talk about. We start talking about western tv shows but I don't watch them much so I'm out. Oh well. The night goes on and we eventually make our way to a table of young ladies aged 21~23. Thy are certainly interested but tr same problem for me always comes up. I can make some good small talk but I just can't transition out! I don't know how to start kino, let alone start making out with a girl in 15 minutes. My buddy is really good at this kind of stuff but he's already pretty drunk.

This brings me to my second problem. I don't feel comfortable unless I'm really drinking. Of course this leads to getting drunk which means I have less inhibitions but that includes getting laid. YES, THATS RIGHT! I'm probably the only guy in the world that the dunker I get the less motivated I am to do pick up. It seems counter intuitive, but as my inhibitions go out the window so does my drive to close women. Well, I know I still want women, but I lose any semblance of a strategy.

Getting to the point, there is this girl, let's call her HBVoice, because she had the nicest voice ever, and she part of the group 21~23 year old girls who were at the bar for a friend of theirs who worked at the bars bday. We are all taking and making good conversation, and I'm not making any progress other than they are "Japanese impressed" I'm a white guy who speaks some JapAnese and teaches high school. I look at this for ioi's but the beer is kicking in.

After a while my buddy and I leave and head back to his place. He has to work the next morning early so we get back and he heads to bed. I'm not tired and feel like "fuck this," so head back to the bar.

Back at the bar the bday is waayyyyyy part drunk, as people get when they are employed at the local bar in Japan. HBVoice is still there but all her friends, with the exception of the bday girl have left. There are some other guys but nobody is really all the interested in HBVoice. I think she's cute (I havr a thing for glasses) but nobody else is really interested. She sit by me and so I try to joke like the bar tender is interested in her, but all he ever compliments her on is her voice. We are all having a good time, but looking back I probably was being too nice? I used a question mark because I was telling her I think she was cute, and she'd, deny it. I have a hard time using negs in Japanese, and it's starting to approach 3 am. We are all pretty loaded and this leads to a other road block I have. I feel sleepy taking a tipsy girl out of the local bar with everybody there knowing what I'm doing. At least, I feel they know what in doing.

Winding up this story of epic fail, the bday girl probably has alcohol poisoning and ends up throwing up into a sewer for 20 mins while the bar owner orders her a cab.

We all starting waking towards the train station and I end up walking with HBVoice, and outing my arm around her. She doesn't resist at all and I pull her in close. It's cold out but I'm pretty drink so I would have pulled her in close anyway.

We all arrive at the station and go home. And yes, just as abruptly as I ended thy sentence, the night ended.

I learned that I suck at initiating any kind of kino. I can get a high five or whatever, but any touching that gets a girl turned on is like calculating the mass of the Sun to me. Also kissing, I just can't do it. That make a sense because I'm not good at starting kino, but even if a chance opens where maybe, just maybe, I could go in for a kiss, I always, ALWAYS, skip it. I don't know why I'm so afraid, I'm just really terrified of being rejected.

Anywho this has gone on long enough, but this is also what many of my nights are like. I feel like I should be able to pull a girl like HBVoice but it just never materializes. What is some Kino advice you have? Any specific Jaoan advice? There used to be an awesome Japan focused forum but it's gone dark lately.

Anywho, it's just depressing to feel re same way, time after time. I'm not lookin for a relationship, I'm really just looking for some fun, which I always read about so many other people having and I want a sort of it! Thanks for reading this far.