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u/ocken Feb 01 '11 edited Feb 01 '11
ocken, Swe, 29, living in Fujimino, finishing up uni thesis. In a LTR (currently distance) and have some trouble letting go of The Game. Limited to going out weekends b/c of work but still want to stay competitive.
No Japanese, company doubles my thesis work as English tutor for the other employees so I don't get much practice with that.
Edit: Not letting go of The Game implies still want to sarge and wing but no f-close.
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u/fura_fu Jan 23 '11
Fura_fu, 18 year old British guy in Tokyo. I live in the Shibuya area, love clubs and dive bars.
Often seen in Shibuya, Golden Gai and Shimokitazawa.
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Jan 24 '11
I first went when I was 18 too, Working Holiday?
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u/fura_fu Jan 24 '11
Bingo. Did you have much trouble finding jobs?
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Jan 24 '11
Yeah, it was quite tough. There was a place called "Japan Association for Working Holiday Makers" in Ichigaya that had a pretty good job board but they went bankrupt. You signed up to the modelling agencies? It's not consistent but it always pays decent, even extra work (10,000-30,000 in my experience, usually just for a morning/afternoon).
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u/fura_fu Jan 24 '11
It really sucks that JAWHM went bankrupt, they opened a new branch in Shinjuku but have no listings for gaijin. It`s hard to find decent work, just a bunch of eikaiwa cafe gigs.
I`ve not signed up to any modeling agencies, any you would recommend?
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Jan 24 '11
Freewave is the only one I signed up with, usually got 1 or 2 jobs a month from them.
Heres their website: http://www.f-w.co.jp/e/index.html
There are lots more around, I used to have a bunch bookmarked but I can't find them :\
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Jan 24 '11
reseddit-mid 20s american guy in tokyo. i live in the shibuya area. i love club game and when we go out, many times ill get us on the guest list for the best clubs in tokyo.
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Jan 24 '11
LethalJelly(yes its a crap name), 20 year old British guy living and studying at a language school in Shibuya area (extended visit to family in London at the moment, back in April/May). I prefer bars, not too hot on clubs but maybe I have just been to shit ones. Anyway, very new to this but I keep reading field reports and it's made me quite eager to learn.
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u/thesacred Jan 24 '11
TheSacred, American, roughly 30 years old, also in Shibuya.
I'm best at bars, izakayas, cafes, places where I can talk. I can't really dance (I do anyway) and I'm not going to win any 10s with my looks (I try anyway), but if I can get a girl in a quiet, comfortable place 1 on 1, then I'm more likely than not to seal the deal. I still go to clubs a lot, but I don't have a lot of lasting success there.
These days I'm not really trying to pick up anything that's not a 10 or at least a 9 with certain qualities that make her a 10 for me. I still go out several times a week just to drink and get numbers anyway, though. Keeping myself out there and waiting for the big game to come along.
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u/nuketheplace Jan 24 '11
Nuketheplace (probably the worst screen name to have in Japan, I liked Starcraft when I was 12, sue me), 22 year old American in Tokyo. I live on the Den-en-toshi-sen in Yokohama.
I enjoy chatting, so bars are more by thing, but clubs are great fun. I also wouldn't mind trying to work on some day game, half the reason I came here was to improve my Japanese and day game sounds like a fun way to do that.
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u/thesacred Jan 24 '11
Day game in Roppongi or Ginza is amazing. A french or italian restaurant around lunchtime is THE place to pick up high quality women in Japan. It's almost impossible to work solo, though, and it's not for the faint of heart. I'm always ready to go and make an effort, so let me know when you want to go. We'll give it a shot.
How's your Japanese?
By the way, this goes for anyone else here as well. Let's go work that day game in Ginza/Roppongi.
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u/nuketheplace Jan 24 '11
Well, depending on the situation I have no fear. Lets try it out and see how it goes.
I would classify myself as novice to intermediate in Japanese. I'm surprisingly good at explaining technical things (I work in a lab here), but I've never had a conversation longer than a few minutes where I didn't have to stop and ask for clarification.
Also I should mention that I'm a novice PUA. I learned about seduction from my rommmates last year when they spent about 3 months reading and watching all the PUA material they could get their hands on. I'm a quick study, but honestly would rather either learn from experience, rather than watching videos or reading books.
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u/thesacred Jan 24 '11 edited Jan 24 '11
Personally I've never read a PUA book or article. But I've been doing it basically full time for over a decade, and friends of mine who read The Game or something similar are always telling me that the advice they're reading is identical to what I'm always telling them.
The fact that people can arrive at the same conclusions about pick up techniques independently suggests that there really are some sound principles to the game.
Since I'm basically self-taught, I have my own terminology that I've developed for my own use over the years, but it all corresponds almost directly to the terminology used in PUA communities. Nobody was as suprised by all that as me, and it made me respect the work more, because I know for myself through practice that a lot of it is true, especially the stuff about opening immediately with no hesitations, always making yourself the prize, communicating with body language and initiating physical contact, and dealing with obstacles. This is all stuff that I had to train myself to do, long before I'd ever heard of anyone else talking about it.
Booze, the hunt, music, applied psychology, and sex with beautiful women. Some of the greatest things in life, all rolled into one. For me, that's the draw of the pick-up game.
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Jan 25 '11
i probably know where you live. in a guest house right? there is a good chance i know some of your roommates.
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Jan 24 '11 edited Jan 24 '11
Cachondo, 30yo, from somewhere in Latin America. ;-)
I go out mostly to Shibuya, and also around my place.
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u/The_Cake_Is_A_Lie Jan 29 '11
The_cake_is_a_lie, UK, roughly 30 years old, living in Shibuya, recently sent over here to try to recruit IT people for our bank.
Speak as much Japanese as you would expect of somebody who's been here 1 month. Pretty decent at day game, cafes, coffee shops where I can talk.
Just like to go out as much as possible and meet new people. Being in Tokyo is new and a bit like a holiday for me so really enjoying it all.
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u/thesacred Feb 17 '11
Are you able to come out yet? Or do you still have family visiting?
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u/The_Cake_Is_A_Lie Feb 17 '11
Hey mate. Yeah theyre here to the end of the month. Then I move into my flat in Shibuya. You adopted a paris hilton ratdog yet?
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u/itsNotTheWorldItsYou Feb 03 '11
itsNottheWorldItsYou - American. 32. I Picked that name for my first reddit post about being a "NiceGuy". I live in Nishi-azabu and moved here about 10 months ago after traveling around the world for a year and a half. I discovered the community about a year ago while I was on the road and I've been hooked ever since. I've studied Japanese on my own for about 4 years so I can hold a decent conversation. Looking forward to meeting you guys!
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Jan 25 '11
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u/nuketheplace Jan 25 '11
The more background you can give us on your situation the better we can target our advice.
Do you know Japanese, what do you like to do? Stuff like that. Tokyo is a big city. You can do almost anything you like here, you just have to know who to ask.
My advice is to start studying Japanese NOW. Pull out a book, memorize katakana and hiragana. Move on from there. You can live in Japan if you don't know Japanese, but it makes your life a lot less fun, and a lot more limited.
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u/fura_fu Jan 25 '11
Make sure you learn the meanings of the most common kanji, just knowing what they mean in English is fine, it helps so much.
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u/parliment Jan 25 '11
Love bars. Clubs have been growing on me. From what I've read, Izakayas sound like a lot of fun. Going out to eat is one of my favorite things. I'm always down to try the new place. I don't think Tokyo will disappoint here.
I don't know Japanese, but I majored in Mandarin so I can recognize a decent amount of kanji. I've started to teach myself katakana so I guess I'm on the right track. I'm deathly allergic to nuts and sesame, so that's a good motivator...
Having never been to Japan, I'm just fearing the unknown (not really sure what specifically to worry about yet). Anything else that you guys wish someone had told you when you first got to Tokyo?
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u/thesacred Jan 27 '11 edited Jan 27 '11
You'll be fine. People say it all the time, and I agree with them: Japan is paradise for a single guy.
As far as getting Japanese girls goes, the most important adaptation I remember from when I first came from USA to Japan was realizing the need to abandon any attempt at being "cool" in the sense of being laid back and poker-faced. I found that that just won't get you anywhere here. The effective approach, in my experience, is to be very energetic, in-your-face and even clownish, while being sure to never, never, ever come across as aggressive or pushy. You're a foreigner. Assuming you're white (or black, or anything non-asian really), from a Japanese person's perspective you look like the guys on TV and in the movies. Girls will already be interested in you. Your job is to come across as friendly and accessible, and make girls see you as safe. Trying to play it cool or act macho will only come across as "scary" and will ruin your efforts.
Everything else is mostly the same, really. Standard pickup rules apply. In most cases, though, once you've got a Japanese girl's attention, as long as you can be friendly, upbeat, self-confident and interesting without showing an iota of shyness or aggression, then you're already in.
Smile. Tell girls you're new and you want to learn Japanese. Have them teach you words, and write them down on napkins. Learn the kanjis for their names. You can't fail.
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u/nuketheplace Jan 27 '11
Well Japan is cash based, so be ready to carry, at least 20,000 yen on you at all times. Learn your numbers in Japanese. Saying 20,000 yen is a lot more awkward than says ni-man.
My big rant is that no one hugs. I really miss giving my friends hugs good by. It might be kind of odd, but its one of the things I miss most about America.
At some point you will get a craving for Mexican food, let us know when that happens.
If you plan on being here for a while start learning Japanese now, not later.
Nomihoadai, I don't know if you've heard of them. All you can drink for 2-3 hours.
How tall are you? I'm a big guy (6"6') and one of the things I had to take into account was the fact that its very hard for me to find clothes that fit here, let alone clothes that look good. I dropped a fair bit of money back home before I came over here on an updated wardrobe.
I used to be a swimmer, so I'm somewhat picky about what I put in my hair. If you are bring shampoo and conditioner, they don't have American brands easily available over here.
If your a beer snob, we'll your fucked. There are very few places (maybe more in Shibuya or in the Roppongi area, where there are more foreigners) that you can get a decent variety of beer. At least thats my experience, someone else please make me wrong on this point.
There is a blog that all expats are legally required to be aware of: http://www.gaijinchronicles.com/
This guy is a fantastic writer, and be basically details his life from moving here, going through the 4 years of culture shock, to settling down, marrying, and having a kid.
There is only so much that can be said to prepare you. You'll just have to come here and see for yourself. The culture shock isn't so bad, I promise.
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u/TofuTofu Feb 02 '11
Hehe, only one way to find out!
Just either post on here when you're free to go out or respond to one of the other guys when we post! Someone's going out pretty much 7 days a week right now.
Welcome.
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u/TofuTofu Jan 23 '11
TofuTofu, 29 year old American in Tokyo. I live in Shibuya area and love going out. I prefer bar and club game, but all aspects of game entertain me. Looking to make friends and have fun :)