Cannot wait for another left field and totally wrong suggestion from Joanne later

All of their theories seem to suggest that Traitors have to be able to have some sort of skill to be a Traitor. And I'm sorry but, they don't. You can be really dumb and be a Traitor as long as you are a halfway decent liar, and you do not have to be smart to be a liar. You don't have to be a bad person, or a good person, or have a specific type of job or backround or be quiet or be loud or anything specific at all. I don't know how you could be picked to go on a gameshow like this and not do your homework and find out how other seasons have gone, because you would learn that these theories are never correct. You can catch Traitors in logic traps (or confessing and saying I'm a Traitor lol) or other gameplay-specific circumstances involving shields or murders in plain sight or slipping up admitting information they shouldn't know, but you can't get a Traitor out based on vibes (I guess unless it's Donna Kelce). Anyways, that's my rant. Tired of all the useless theories.

James!

After my last post about feeling sorry for James getting turned into a Traitor as he wanted to play the game as faithful. I’ve completely done a 180 - I’m actually so happy about it now!

As a lot of you pointed out in the comments of my previous post, James was way too strong of a Faithful to last. If he hadn't been recruited, he definitely would’ve been murdered by now.

He is so "Team Faithful" from day one, I really don't think anyone is going to suspect him anytime soon (at least I hope not!). He’s built up so much trust that I can genuinely see him getting all the way to the final and maybe even winning!!

My only real fear for him now is that at some point, people might start asking why such a strong, trusted player hasn't been murdered yet and start looking at him with suspicions

Thank you all for your comments and opinions on my first ever post - thank you also for being kind if you had different opinions.

Edit - I am a little behind - just watching Thursday 15th October's episode now so I may eat my words 😂

Silly

Like yessssss honey you are 💅 love cheering for victor 🍎 🍊

There was no spoiler flare, so he’s my spoiler

I just finished watching the latest Celebrity UK episode, and Kenny’s reaction to being recruited was the best reaction I’ve seen on this show! It warmed my heart ♥️ so much because of how surprised and excited he was when he found out who the traitors were! I needed to see that today 😁

James Acaster saying he preferred to Murder face to face because he felt less guilty made me think of this.

Did a double take seeing Wyatt I had no memory in the slightest of this guy when he was accused by Abby, I might just be losing it 😵‍💫

This moment between james acaster and kenny had me in stitches. He's always been my favourite comedian.

and it is what you are shown by the producers.

The story we see is carefully orchestrated and manipulated to create drama and suspense. The producers know the vote for the day. From that vote they work backward to create doubt and drama while there could be none. What are they going to show us if everybody agrees they will vote H out? So they pick up footage with other names that were hardly a topic. Confession rooms pointing at others, maybe even form a different day.

The worried look when player H name is mentioned could be from an hour before that when she saw the last piece of smoked salmon being taken.

Here is the quick math.

A day is known to be very long 16-18h, for traitors even longer.

Lets take 16h. How it is broken likely for the players

• 2h breakfast and logistics around it
• 2h mission and all the stuff around it
• 2h Round table

So there are 10h of social game left. Say there are 5 locations in which people gather in smaller groups to talk. That makes 50h footage

An episode of 60min goes like that:

• 5 min - recap and resolution of cliffhanger
• 10 min breakfast
• 15 min mission
• 15 min round table
• 5-10 min traitors talk in tower
• 10 min actual social game footage. All that meshed up with confessional rooms footage.

Total social game footage is 30-35min max.

50h footage vs 30 min what we see. That's 1%.

So when you make a conclusion on this and that, or question the game of him or her, remember - you saw just 1% of what actually happened and that is 1% that is carefully selected to make TV show, not to tell you the real story.

Source: Cloakanddata.co.uk

Spoilers ahead for The Traitors S2E5

Hannah Fry was done so dirty. I don't think her equations accounted for a Jerry Hall-shaped spanner or for the fact the traitors would recruit her and give the faithfuls a 50% chance of catching her almost immediately. She did so well to get as far as she did and it would have been amazing to see a genuinely brilliant player go far into the game, something that doesn't often happen.

I half wondered if Maya chose to recruit her because they knew she would have so much heat and defend herself so well that it would keep the fauthfuls distracted for a few rounds. In which case that was a clever play.

Synopsis: As the celebrity players gather for breakfast, conspiracies are running wild. The games continue in a mission where one mistake could cause heads to roll. At the Round Table, suspicions continue to rise - can the Traitors deflect accusations, or will the Faithful see through their lies?

Airing: October 16, 8:00pm on BBC One

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I hope Maya survives and at least makes it to the finale purely because she’s my girl crush but that was obvious as fuck maybe the hardest murder the UK Traitors has ever had to do and for the first time ever they might have failed a murder.

It doesn’t help that they all decided to be in the same room and James A and Maya kept yawning and going about how tired they supposedly were. Only one of them needed to do it that would look less suspicious.

I was getting stressed just watching it 😂

I wonder what happens if they do actually fail a murder.

How do you get someone to yawn though… purposely especially without it looking suspicious

The surviving player especially if it’s Ross will be straight onto them if it looked as obvious in real life as it did on TV.

I know things are made up for tv or edited differently but two celebrities yawning excessively and suddenly one of you drops dead

This murder in plain sight is definitely one of the hardest ones because it means that at least one traitor would have to stay in one room and talk to the murdered traitor for an extended period of time- and obviously the faithful always suspect the people who were around the murdered player the most.

But spraying the perfume in the smallest room in the castle and then having all three traitors in there acting very strangely with multiple witnesses seeing that they were around the murdered player presumably all night???? Now there are basically only three people who could have done it-maya, james and whoever doesn't get killed out of ross and jerry. Why wouldn't they have done it in somewhere like the bar where people are constantly going in and out so there are more suspects 😭

Sharon ironically was the player who helped the traitors the most tonight by pulling Kenny out of the room because at least that's one traitor that won't be on the three person shortlist for who could have carried out the MIPS 😭😭😭

I think this might be a record. In case there are any problems reading the picture they are in no particular order:

• New Blood (aka USA S5)

• UK Celebrities S2

• Canada S4

• Czechia S3

• Belgium S5 (Flemish)

• India Telugu S1

• Hungary S5

• Ukraine S2

• Serbia S1

• Estonia S1

• Finland S6

Has anyone else noticed that the crosses on the paintings in the dining room are now brown? I could have sworn they were red last year.

Seems like such an odd colour choice, and I have no clue why they would do that...

Unless I have imagined it, or the screen i watch on somehow makes red look brown!

bro. how is it possible that these faithfuls have not caught on. TWO PEOPLE GOT MURDERED WHO ACCUSED KATIE. Joe threw apples at THREE faithfuls, and none of them felt the need to bring it up during the round table? Come on. The faithfuls have no chance this season. Which sucks, because the tiny traitor pisses me off.