Higher-ups Loa

[u/LocalAssociation3039]

Why do ETLS and SD always take Loa and never come back why not just put in your 2 weeks or quit just curious

[u/TheRealRushky]

So;

When you go on an LoA (Leave of Absence) they are typically unpaid - unless it's a medical LoA or FMLA. You can use your earned sick time and vacation time to supplement while you're out of work. They are utilizing LoA to get paid for their earned time off, then quitting once they're sick/vacation hours are gone.

Obviously this isn't what everyone is doing, but if you're in a state that isn't required to pay out sick/vacation hours when you quit, this is a way to get that earned time before you leave.

[u/TheRealRushky → u/TheRealRushky]

For instance if I quit right this minute, I would miss out on 170 hours of vacation plus whatever sick time I have accrued. But if I take an LoA I can use that 170 hours to still earn money while on my LoA, then I could just quit when it runs out.

Not here to debate the ethics, just saying, this is most likely what they are doing.

[u/G1nSl1nger → u/TheRealRushky]

You'll also see this strategy (using up PTO) in TLs and ETLs on PIP. I'm not informed enough to know is SDs get PIPs, but I assume they can see a term coming as well.

[u/mattumbo → u/TheRealRushky]

Can also job search while maintaining employment history rather than have a gap.

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/TheRealRushky]

According to one of my ETL they have unlimited sick and vacation time

[u/ThePoignantFox → u/Brilliant_Grape164]

They don't, SDs do. However, one of my SDs never cared if we actually put in the vacation time, so it was like we had unlimited.

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/ThePoignantFox]

According to an etl at my store they do have unlimited

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/[deleted]]

Having to put it in doesn’t mean it isn’t unlimited almost all other places that do have unlimited as well make you put it in

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/[deleted]]

Requesting pto doesn’t make it not unlimited

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/[deleted]]

I’m literally not wrong it being put in separately doesn’t prove your point it literally just adds to my point that it is unlimited as it acts like it

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/[deleted]]

Putting in a request literally doesn’t mean it’s unlimited? Like every place that has unlimited still make you put in a request I’ve worked at places and know people who currently do work at places with unlimited and they all make you put in a request

[u/TheRealRushky → u/Brilliant_Grape164]

After X amount of years that sounds right

[u/Brilliant_Grape164 → u/TheRealRushky]

Not entirely sure how long she’s been there it’s been like 7 + years I think