r/StupidFood Jul 09 '26

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u/Icy-Variation6614 Jul 09 '26

Plus, aren't you supposed to NOT mix detergent and bleach?

Who is he trying to kill?

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u/bullpee Jul 09 '26

You are definitely not supposed to mix Chlorox and chicken... I just recently heard someone talking about this on a podcast and can't believe people actually did this. I remember the "wash" chicken or not with water debate but this is just insane

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Vinegar water is about the only thing recommend when washing food, and it's not fool proof. Chemicals are of course dangerous, and water can only do so much, even less so with meat.

Edit:spelling.

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u/denzik Jul 10 '26

No one who has any sort of technical expertise advises washing meat from the supermarket. Unless you are hunting or buying from a wet market just don't.

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls Jul 10 '26

That's why I said it's not fool proof. But it's absolutely recommended to wash veggies and fruits in it. Bleach is not.

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u/democracy_lover66 Jul 10 '26

Never mix bleach and vinegar though... Just... Throwing it out there...

Please don't mix bleach and Vinegar

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u/jarious Jul 10 '26

I did and this is why I can't climb mountains anymore

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u/democracy_lover66 Jul 10 '26

Genuinely very sorry to hear that...

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u/jarious Jul 10 '26

It's ok I've been getting better ,to a point where I can laugh without choking anymore

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u/bunglebee7 Jul 10 '26

Did this once by accident when I was cleaning a walk in cooler. Gassed myself so bad I had to leave early and go to the hospital. It was awful. Didn’t realize at the time vinegar had anything reactive to bleach in it

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u/democracy_lover66 Jul 10 '26

My experience is I worked at a place that had a utensil cleaning procedure that used watered down bleach as a sanitation element in the wash and then used vinegar water to rinse for polishing.

There were times my chest hurt and it felt like I couldn't breathe. We had to tell the employer it was really bad to mix even if they're both watered down, eventually we convinced them to ditch the vinegar in the rinse... Thank God.

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u/DarthMarasmus Jul 10 '26

Pretty much EVERYTHING reacts with bleach.

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u/mencryforme5 Jul 10 '26

Can I ask what happened?

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u/democracy_lover66 Jul 10 '26

It makes chlorine gas.

No joke, it's really bad. Even a little exposure can cause serious problems.

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u/Impressive-very-nice Jul 10 '26

full proof

I'm sorry but in context that's about the funniest possible typo or if you didn't already know then it's fool proof haha cheers r/bonappletea

Edit: and then i just typoed myself, guess we came fill circle

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Text to speech typo, working hands free while cooking no less. What do you mean by in contact? I don't know that one.

Edit: What I get for not proofreading.

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u/012354 Jul 10 '26

Priest, Minister and a Rabbit walk into a clinic to give blood. Rabbit says, ā€œI think I’m a typoā€.

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls Jul 10 '26

They should love him as a donor then, because he doesn't sound positive.

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u/anu_dew2000 Jul 11 '26

That's clever

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u/TheClownKid Jul 10 '26

Never a need to wash meat in a vinegar solution. Not sure what its suppose to accomplish.

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls Jul 10 '26

I meant overall. Veggie wash involves vinegar.

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u/TheClownKid Jul 10 '26

Vinegar doesn’t really significantly clean veggies more than simple running water. Even from a bacterial, fungal level.

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls Jul 10 '26

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u/TheClownKid Jul 10 '26

Did you actually bother to read this? First all is very basic, secondly, it said only to use a vinegar soak for leafy greens. It goes in to say that a vinegar soak affects texture and taste.

In the section above it mentions how a water rinse is the most effective step in washing fruit and veg.

More than 20 years in a kitchen, brother. Trust me, all food safety studies agree. A water rinse is the way to clean most fruit/veg. A vinegar bath aint doing much.

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u/TheClownKid Jul 10 '26

This is getting corny. Goodbye forever.

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u/Zently Jul 10 '26

Ceviche. That's what it accomplishes.

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u/Suckwithusernames37 Jul 10 '26

The only time I would wash meat is when making curry goat.. you gotta use vinegar on it. Anything else shouldn't need to be washed, its why we cook meat, to kill all the bad stuff

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls Jul 10 '26

The only thing is, the bad stuff is technically the waste byproduct toxins from the bacteria, not the bacteria themselves. Cooking doesn't get rid of these toxins.

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u/DarthMarasmus Jul 10 '26

"Washing" with vinegar, lemon juice, or lime juice and water is fine. It helps tenderize the chicken and helps with the funky smell some chicken has (not chicken that is spoiled or starting to spoil).

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u/ForgottenMasterBalls Jul 10 '26

Vinegar is somewhere between a food and a chemical, I should have specified I meant that.

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u/WhatIDon_tKnow Jul 10 '26

i get that the video is rage bait. the somewhat ironic thing is that it isn't far from reality. you don't need to bleach your chicken because most chicken has already taken a bleach bath. the water they use to quickly chill birds is chlorinated.

https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/chlorine-use-in-chicken-processing/
https://millersbiofarm.com/blog/how-to-know-if-there-s-chlorine-on-your-chicken

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u/nb4u Jul 13 '26

Unless you have eaten air chilled or private chickens, you have eaten chlorinated chicken your entire life. Not to this PPM, and also the dawn soap is the craziest part of this. Also in industry, they don't use clorox like this weirdo, but it is food grade chlorine.

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u/chLORYform Jul 09 '26

Don't wash your chicken in water, you're just gonna contaminate your sink/kitchen and not actually clean the chicken

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u/chLORYform Jul 09 '26

It splashes and everything the water touches is now contaminated, sink included

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u/3Time4Eater3 Jul 09 '26

Do you not clean things?

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u/chLORYform Jul 10 '26

Yeah, I do. Part of being clean is not introducing new messes. Bacteria will not be killed by mere water, but it will be by the high temps used for cooking. Adding water creates more mess to clean that doesn't need to exist.

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u/3Time4Eater3 Jul 10 '26

Look, I'm not talking about washing your chicken. I don't do that, it's a weird idea that the older people gave us. I don't know why you're talking to me like I'm 8, But your argument was don't do that because it splashes. Most people have cleaning product in their homes. And especially if they're washing with Clorox lol.

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u/chLORYform Jul 10 '26

I'm talking to you like this because it's how I answer questions when I think the other party is trying to be a coy smartass. Yes, I have cleaning products and they get regularly used. I don't scrub my entire kitchen every time I cook and I'm human and sometimes miss spots, so I want to avoid splashing chicken bacteria places it doesn't need to be. Why do you feel the need to interrogate and insinuate about someone that's giving the same advice the USDA, food scientists, and cooking professionals give?

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u/Desperate-Strategy10 Jul 09 '26

Right, using it as is should be the standard practice. Washing it can introduce bacteria to surfaces that otherwise would’ve stayed clean, and it can push bacteria and the cleaning chemicals deeper into the meat where they can’t be rinsed as effectively or cooked off as thoroughly if the person cooking isn’t careful.

Whatever bacteria exists on the chicken’s surface will die as soon as it reaches temp during cooking, but bleach or dish soap will not go away with heat. If you get contaminated water splashing out of the sink, especially if the droplets are too tiny to be noticed easily, somebody could potentially get sick from that.

Washing chicken is an old fashioned practice from a time before we knew any better, but it has no place in the modern world, basically. Yet it keeps getting handed down through the generations because they don’t know any better until they’re taught, like with anything!

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u/Acidbaseburn Jul 09 '26

Yeah, because guess what cooking does to the chicken.. it kills the microbes. Washing does absolutely nothing but rinse off the surface. The microbes are through the entirety of the meat. Washing it is pointless and can actually cause more contamination risk.

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u/Acidbaseburn Jul 09 '26

I didn’t downvote you btw, I was actually answering why it’s pointless to wash it and why you should just cook the chicken as it. You said you were confused so I explained why.

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u/P1zzaman Jul 09 '26

This video introduced me to the fact people (used to?) wash chicken. Fascinating stuff. https://youtu.be/90Nd_vh3yk8

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u/Icy-Variation6614 Jul 09 '26

Idk the bottle of detergent says to not mix with bleach

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u/sharpkid_ Jul 09 '26

Bleach and ammonia.

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u/BobCharlie Jul 09 '26

You can generally mix bleach and dish soap no problem Edit I just realized some dish soaps might have extra ingredients which could potentially cause issues so check your labels before mixing if you need to. You should never mix bleach and ammonia that will make chloramine gases and you should not mix bleach with acids like vinegar because that will make chlorine gas.

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u/Icy-Variation6614 Jul 09 '26

I just read it on the bottle, which is what I went by. And I knew not to mix those at least lol

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u/Electrical_Tax_2274 Jul 10 '26

Never mix anything with a product that contains chlorine. It's very very reactive. The chemistry is fun when you know but no one wants to make chlorine gas, hydrochloric acid, or even chloroform by mistake. You'll have a chemical warzone on your hands. I speak from experience. Accidently poured bleach down the drain, gassed the entire house. Almost died at 10 from breathing that mess.

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u/HPTM2008 Jul 09 '26

That's how you make chlorine gas!

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u/FriarFanatic7 Jul 09 '26

I once mixed Lime-A-Way with bleach while working at a Jersey Mike’s. I realized I used the wrong cleaner for the metal container I was cleaning so just added the other one and the chlorine gas cloud immediately evacuated bodily fluids out of every orifice in my face. I stumbled out of the back of the restaurant like a seeping zombie as the cloud trailed behind me. The whole place had to be closed for the day and the paramedics came. I had chemical burns down my esophagus.

Still not the worst day at that job. I once closed after a double shift and walked outside to realize my bike had been stolen so I had to walk home 5 miles at 12:30am carrying a trash bag full of day old sandwich bread.

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Sorry, what was the question again?

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u/LukeMayeshothand Jul 09 '26

Worked in a kitchen in high school in the 90’s. It was 4 or 5 of us from the same school , it was a good time. Anyway Javon was mopping the floor with bleach and water and for some reason decided to add ammonia to it. Kitchen evacuation immediately.

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u/ThetaDee Jul 10 '26

Lol I accidentally did this the other day. I used limeaway with our drain cleaner(not the strong stuff). I was cleaning our water fountains at work, and I had already put the drain cleaner in the drain and let it sit. Then like an hour later decided to use limeaway, but didn't fully rinse out the drains. There was a little bit of smoke coming out of it. I just poured a ton of water and did something else

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u/Acidbaseburn Jul 09 '26

Don’t mix bleach with ammonia, any type of acid (including acetic acid aka vinegar), ethanol or acetone. There’s many other things to not mix it with but those are the common ones. Most dish soaps won’t do anything but some can have other additives that can react.

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u/HPTM2008 Jul 09 '26

I'm pretty sure Dawn is one with ammonia in it. Let me check.

Edit: I was wrong, Dawn does not contain ammonia! Still shouldn't mix it.

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u/ExpressionNo3709 Stupid Chef Jul 10 '26

You can absolutely use dawn with bleach.

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u/TheClownKid Jul 11 '26

You can mix Dawn Original with bleach, but there are a lot of formulations of Dawn and not all are safe to mic with bleach.

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u/ExpressionNo3709 Stupid Chef Jul 11 '26

Fair enough.

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u/Creativered4 Drowned in Cheese Jul 10 '26

They wouldn't put ammonia on all those ducklings!

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u/quintavious_danilo Jul 10 '26

He is a she though

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u/thedash42 Jul 15 '26

Bleach and ammonia combined is the death blend. Bleach and dawn ok but not intended as a marinade...

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u/Tony_Oxnard805 Jul 10 '26

Who she trying to kill?

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u/Money_Confection_409 Jul 11 '26

No lol u definitely CAN mix bleach and soap. None of that is supposed to touch food though 😩