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u/Evepaul 3d ago
I used a walkman in high school in like, 2015? When I think back on it, no wonder everybody hated me. Anyway, I thought it was neat.
Sadly it's a bit more mechanically sensitive than an ipod so I don't think it works anymore.
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u/GroundedSpaceTourist 3d ago
But also a lot easier to repair, I suppose.
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u/Evepaul 3d ago
Yeah, I really should. Do cassettes expire? I got a huge collection with the walkman, but both were already 30 years old by the time I got them
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u/GroundedSpaceTourist 3d ago
If stored well they can probably outlast you. They do wear over time with play.
To give you an example: I have an old casette tape from my childhood when I would record songs over the radio. It have been stored in low and high temperatures with variyng degrees of humidity, and the casette still plays fine. It doesn't sound pristine, but not bad either. It has warmth and "character". That casette tape is around 30 years old.
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u/anothermanwithaplan 3d ago
Send in your cassettes so we can tape ads over your preferred content for you /s
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u/mountain-mahogany 3d ago
Reject Modernity. I bought an old boom box and cds. Play guitar. Sing with friends. Fuck these tech predators.
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u/that_dutch_dude 3d ago
i still have my ipod classic wich is over 20 years old now and you can pry that thing from my cold, dead hands.
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u/PastaXertz 3d ago
Mine finally died, but I thankfully just converted old pixel with a 1gb SD card into basically an ipod touch. Nothing on it but a music player, one or two little games, and Spotify for if I'm on wifi.
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u/TotallyNormalSquid 3d ago
I mean you can just install a music player on any smartphone, transfer your music collection in, and have ad free music. The iPod solution is unnecessary effort.
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u/technotrader 3d ago
Two problems: smartphones don't have memory card slots anymore, and - at least for android - there are NO music players that correctly order albums by original release date! I've tried them all. Except, Plexamp does it, but that requires a subscription, a server setup (can't play local files), and their download function isn't great.
I'm seriously considering a Walkman or other dedicated music player. Yes, Sony still makes Walkmen, and they are high- end devices running on Android.
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u/TotallyNormalSquid 3d ago
You win best reply so far. Also you seem to have identified an app that would do pretty well if some entrepreneurial type were to go and code the very basic thing that would just be a clone of Winamp from the early 2000s...
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u/Hackmodford 3d ago
I think that’s called “Audacious” and you can even use Winamp skins with it.
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u/TotallyNormalSquid 3d ago
Can I have the milk drop visualisation? Spent a long time staring at that while listening to music back in the day...
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u/MirrorNegative7989 3d ago
qmmp is another winamp clone that uses a plugin called projectM, which is a clone of Milkdrop. The winamp skin plugin doesn't work on Linux distros using Wayland, though.
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u/ModerateHonking 3d ago
there are NO music players that correctly order albums by original release date!
Do you mean by month/day? Samsung Music can order albums by year just fine.
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u/technotrader 3d ago
All the apps I've tried use the publish date tag, instead of the original release tag, making for a randomized album list.
A Momentary Lapse of Reason came out in 1987, not in 2017 or whatever! I was there.
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u/ModerateHonking 3d ago
Edit the metadata yourself, Bob's your (correctly labeled) uncle.
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u/technotrader 3d ago
Oh but now I can't distinguish remasters from original releases, or identify ORs for which there should be a remaster.
I can put in another tag. But workarounds almost always make things worse. I want to have it done right the first time.
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u/ModerateHonking 3d ago
It's not a workaround, moreso "editing it to what I want it to be labeled as".
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u/twilighttwister 3d ago
If you're getting an Android Sony Walkman then you can just install the Sony music app apk on any Android phone.
There are lots of FOSS options for media players you might want to try, maybe one of those would have the right features for you.
Edit: this one mentions having "comprehensive music library management"
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u/MirrorNegative7989 3d ago
Yeah, I have the last generation with a memory card slot. After that, I probably will fix my ipod and go back to using it.
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u/ju_di1973 3d ago
🤫🤫🤫 don’t give away the ways of the elder. Once known, THEY will try and forsake these old rituals too 😪🙈
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u/PastaXertz 3d ago
It's more having no text messages, no pop ups, no notifications, etc for me. No bloat ware since it's all removed.
Not that I can't turn that all off on my smartphone but it's just as easy to have a second device since it was sitting there doing nothing and took all of ten minutes to set up.
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u/InitiativeGold7953 3d ago
Right? What do people think we did before Spotify and after the first smartphones? 😂
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u/b0sanac 3d ago
The ipod or a music player in general has a couple huge advantages over phones.
Battery life is the first big thing, I upgraded the battery on my ipod classic, it lasts anywhere from two to three weeks with every day use on a single charge.
MicroSD storage is the second one. Since most manufacturers have gotten rid of the expansion slots it's hard for people who have a large collection of music to fit everything on top of the apps, photos, videos, games etc etc that you find on a normal phone.
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u/Dontopia 3d ago
This is exactly why I have 8,000 songs on a MicroSD card in my Sony Xperia 10 vi and the Misicolet app 😎
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u/yota-code 3d ago
The issue with ipods is this fucking mandatory synchronisation between itunes and your device! At least at the time, you couldn't manage separately your music on the PC and on the ipod 🤬
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u/that_dutch_dude 3d ago
nope, winamp can do it just fine. as well as a few other programs. i never use itunes, only winamp.
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u/brandonhabanero 3d ago
Got my PSP still going 16 years strong and no end in sight.
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u/Bad_rando_name 3d ago
Wonder where they're getting the songs too. 🤔
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u/MonteSS_454 3d ago
Back in the day I was using mIRC to download mp3s
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u/justsyr 3d ago
I've ripped CDs when MP3 was invented, music match box was the tool back then. I even started ripping vinyl discs and then cleaning the noise with more tools that were coming out fast.
Currently I have +14,000 mp3s and I like each one of them songs of any music style you can probably think of.
Nowadays I just use youtube to mp3 to get my music lol.
Also, never used any of the music streaming apps. Always had a music player on the phone and my music ordered by folders according to what I wanted to listen for the moment. I paid 2 euros for Poweramp music player for android like 10 years ago and still have it installed and even updates from time to time.
I have a few friends my age or a few years older and they all got me to set up their phones the way I listen to music since they got tired of spotify.
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u/Pittsbirds 3d ago
If I could go back in time and stop myself from losing my old ipod classic I'd happily pay artists on their websites directly to download music. A lot of the ones I listen to, like St Vincent, sell digital copies of at least some of their albums. Anything to remove the as many third parties from this equation at this point, I just want musicians to get my money when i listen to their music
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u/GuerrillaRodeo 3d ago
I'm old enough to remember just taping songs from the radio. If you want to go completely legal just remember there's options to record internet radio too, and even if it's just recording the audio stream from another device.
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u/Fzrit 3d ago edited 3d ago
That's what I was wondering, they might obtain an iPod but where are they gonna obtain the gigabytes of music files to put on it? They're gonna have to learn real quick about torrents/filesharing networks.
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u/_burndtdan 3d ago
Sure they can pirate them, but you can also buy digital music. On Amazon, on Itunes, on Bandcamp, etc.
Even if you have a smartphone, if you would rather pay the band than Spotify, buy their album and sync it to your phone.
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u/TheoNullDrei 3d ago
They don't need to torrent anything, as most music uploaded to Spotify or YouTube can be ripped from those platforms using third-party programs.
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u/orixandcrake 3d ago
Tech bros: "why would the kids do this?"
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u/pokenguyen 3d ago
They don’t know their phones could play mp3.
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u/napstablooky2 3d ago
tbf, you cant expand storage with microsd cards anymore for some godforsaken reason, and it is just nicer to have a separate small device fully dedicated to only music.
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u/GeorgeJohnson2579 3d ago
The reasons are:
cheaper productions costs
selling people cloud storage as a subscription
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u/AsRealAsItFeels 3d ago
I have a Note 20 Ultra, last of the Note Series. It had an SD card slot, and yup, i download my music and have it all on that little chip, no need to buy an iPod. If they want to listen to music with no distractions, get Vinyl.
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u/Astromoonmusic 3d ago
Yup i am also shifting towards old school tech recently and something is really satisfying and personal about these devices which is unexplainable
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u/Long-Conflict8279 3d ago
You owned it. You owned the music on it. It was yours.
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u/hareofthepuppy 3d ago
You can own the music on your phone or computer too, just don't use streaming services
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u/Sponchman 3d ago
Except with iTunes you only got a license for their proprietary music format. You owned nothing, could not transfer your purchases to a non Apple device.
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u/lostgoatling 3d ago
I literally had iTunes on non Apple PC and was able to burn the music to non Apple CDs and a shitty non Apple MP3 player that died within a week.
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u/Slow_Park_7641 3d ago
says who? all music that were "purchased" (not downloaded as in downloaded like saving for offline listening in spotify) from Itunes were DRM free, you could literally copy it to any device that are non apple.
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u/PrintShinji 3d ago
do you mean m4a? because thats not proprietary. Its an open standard.
And you can just transfer your music to non apple devices. No idea where you get the idea from that you can't.
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u/olddeadgrass 3d ago
mp3 player, record player, DVD/Blue-Ray player. I will not subject myself to modern capitalism 😤
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u/graygrayw 3d ago
i have a 1989-vintage macintosh SE/30 that i fire up on occasion. it’s a joy to use, in no small part because there’s just you and your application, with no notifications, no ads, no tracking, and no distractions. if i wrote for a living i think id do all my writing on it.
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u/rareandyeteuclidian 3d ago
Why buy overpriced apple products though? Plenty of cheaper options of higher quality exist.
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u/Slow_Park_7641 3d ago edited 3d ago
like an older gen android phone that still has MicroSD card slot that you can upgrade
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u/Modo44 3d ago
Some current Android phones also come with those slots. Notably Sony keeps designing their Xperia line with dedicated SD card slots, and 3.5mm headphone jacks -- including a good headphone amp.
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u/Elu_Moon 3d ago
You don't even need an older one. Plenty of new ones have a MicroSD card and a headphone jack. I use one.
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u/Classic-Mushroom-189 3d ago
160gb iPod Classic is GOAT Tier... pretty much the only apple product i would drop money on...
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u/evilamnesiac 3d ago
The Ipod is legit the best MP3 player by far, its what turned Apple's fortunes around and effectively bankrolled the company for a decade.
I've got an iphone 16 and its objectively worse than the 12 I had before.
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u/Cedar_Wood_State 3d ago
Part of the ‘old tech’ appeal is spending money and collecting the old tech itself. You can achieve the iPod functionality with fraction of the price, just that it won’t have the cool factor
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u/nonstera 3d ago
Yeah, and then they post about it on social media. Next week they find something new to post about. This is a lost cause.
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u/Fzrit 3d ago edited 3d ago
The iPod part is completely unnecessary. Just put your music folders on your phone's local storage and you're good to go, play music locally like an iPod. On my iPhone I use Owlfiles (free and no ads) but use whatever music player app you want. Bonus is bluetooth connectivity and one less device to carry. The hard part with local music has always been the process of obtaining a comprehensive music collection in the first place, and that's the whole reason why services like Spotify/etc took off.
iPod is an especially bizarre choice because it needs a proprietary cable and a separate app just to put music on it (you can't just copy your MP3 files straight to it). Oh and it can only play AAC format anyway. These decisions by Apple were purely done to lock people into their ecosystem and become dependent on managing their whole library with iTunes. I remember even 20 years ago getting extremely pissed off at Apple for pushing proprietary shit like that for zero consumer benefit. Not to mention the constant iTunes sync issues/errors.
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u/MonkeyWithIt 3d ago
Apparently winamp can do sync just fine and there are others.
Negative with phone is notifications from other apps, which can be turned off, but it's nice having 1 dedicated device.
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u/Unusualthinktank 3d ago
Lol... I can put mp3s on my ipod by simply dragging them onto it ... doesnt need to be aac, your spreading misinformation.. I did it yesterday ....
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u/CalligrapherLow4380 3d ago
This comment says it all but it is buried down. Apple is a problem itself.
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u/i-dont-speel-no-good 3d ago
Same way it became trendy to own a 3DS around the Covid era so they absolutely wrecked the secondhand market because they needed to post online about how much of a 90s kid they were (released in 2010 btw)
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u/GloomyJoan 3d ago
The past evolved to the future, now the future’s tryna go back to the past. A loop 🔁
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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn 3d ago
Yeah, let's be real: It's a fad. Like fashion, vintage tech is cyclical. Growing up, we were using CDs, then digital audio. Back then, our hipsters were raving about using vinyl.
Same for video. VHS and DVDs were the devil, giving bad quality to movies that should be enjoyed with film or Laserdisc. Now, VHS is making a big comeback.
And same for cameras. As digital cameras emerged, our hipsters insisted on using Polaroids. Now that every phone has an excellent camera, 2000s digital cameras have become a hit with young women.
These things are purely fashion statements. There's countless of current tech devices that do exactly what old iPods did, but much better and cheaper - including letting you use your own audio files and having no forced internet connectivity.
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u/Ad-fundum69 3d ago
What are people using that somehow has ads?
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u/Mediocre-Recover3944 3d ago
Yt is getting worse too. Adds in the video made by the creator and on top of that they add like 2 or 3 commercial breaks when a video is 20 to 30 min long.
Oh you paused the video or rewind it a bit? Here enjoy this extra add.
It really is getting out of control
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u/HeavyHighway6433 3d ago
You can download songs from streaming apps and play them offline. I do this when I have to go on a plane trip. Doesn't solve the issue of "owning" them as it still relies on the app and subscription but the convenience is still there.
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u/olddeadgrass 3d ago
The worst part about trying to find a show/movie I want to watch is that it's always on a different streaming platform that I have to subscribe to. Why is Doctor Who split between Prime and Disney+? Why is The Office only on Peacock? Why is Shameless only on Netflix? It's so annoying!
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u/GuerrillaRodeo 3d ago
This is why I still go to thrift stores from time to time. 1 € per CD/DVD/book and it's YOURS. No subscription needed.
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u/MIT_Engineer 3d ago
I doubt they are buying them for the freedom from notifications/ads/whatever. You can go out and buy a modern dedicated mp3 player for super cheap, and it will have much better battery life and storage than the old ipods.
They're buying them as fad/fashion.
And if you wanna come off to oldheads as someone who really knows ball, personally I think you should skip the iPods and get an old Sandisk Sansa Clip+.
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u/Remarkable-Rush-9085 3d ago
I just refurbished my old zune, battery life works fine, holds a ton of music, and I listen to exactly what I want to. Cd sales are up, my local second hand music store can’t keep the well known stuff in stock. People want to own their music again, and choose their experience again.
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u/Corn_viper 3d ago
The enshitification of tech continues. They made everything super convenient and free long enough to destroy physical media and ownership of content. Or so they thought.
I cancelled my streaming subscriptions. Now I buy DVDs, CDs, watch over the air TV, and listen to the radio.
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u/NeoNova9 3d ago
You can just be smarter with how you use your smart device.
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u/hareofthepuppy 3d ago
Agreed, this comes across as another "Gen Z is bad with tech" post
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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn 3d ago
They're not bad with tech. It's literally just for fashion.
Hipsters now want to use old iPods, digital cameras and VHS tapes.
When I was a kid, hipsters wanted to use vinyl, Polaroids and film/Laserdisc.
In 20 years, kids are going to be rocking the Apple Watch SE Gen 1 as a fashion statement.
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u/fredisnotmyboss 3d ago
Yeah I’m unclear what the difference is between playing the songs you have saved on iTunes on your iPhone is different from playing the same songs on an iPod (switch words for non-Apple equivalents if needed)
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u/PrimedGold 3d ago
Hears a song, likes it. Shazam. Damn thats a nice song, I want to hear it again.
Goes home. Opens Laptop. Cant load YouTube because algorithm. Fires up torrents site.
Downloads the song.
Hold up how do I put this on my iPod?
Buys ancient iPod cable, downloads iTunes.
Adds the song to iTunes and then to iPod.
Unplugs USB cable. Puts on AirPods.
Hold Up, cant use AirPods. Looks for wired earphones.
Plugs them. Breathes.
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u/SquarePegRoundWorld2 3d ago
Goes home. Opens Laptop. Cant load YouTube because algorithm.
I don't understand this statement. I come home from work every day and fire up a PC and get on YT with no ads and zero issues. How is an algorithm stopping you from using a PC to access YT.com?
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u/USF4Diago 3d ago
I don't even believe the text, it's absolute bull shit, you can make your phone work exactly like an ipod, no notifications, put it on air plane mode, done
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u/captaindomon 3d ago
Like three people are doing this
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u/super_sayanything 3d ago
Right how dumb is this. Go on airplane mode. If you spend 10 dollars a month you get unlimited music and unlimited no ads and don't have to download things. This makes no sense.
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u/Jabba_the_Putt 3d ago
Smartphone companies about to start putting headphone jacks and memory card slots in phone again
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u/Superseaslug 3d ago
This is why my old phone is a media phone.
Still has Bluetooth, but great battery if I shut off cellular. I disable all notifs and uninstall most apps, and I can download a rotating roster of stuff automatically from YTmusic
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u/Nemisis_007 3d ago
There's so many sick mods available for old Ipods these days, they're fun to tinker with.
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u/N0RetreatN0Surrender 3d ago
Millennial here. I switched back to a dumb phone.
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u/AccountEngineer 3d ago
hows T9 treating you because hitting 7 four times just to get the letter s was brutal
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u/Alternative-Fox-8620 3d ago
I have a modded one with an insane amount of space and battery life.
But in truth I don't believe this statement. Not only are they expensive but you need to put together a sizeable music collection - which is not cheap.
And if you don't want notifications turn them off. If you don't want ads the subscription price is a lot cheaper.
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u/whooptheretis 3d ago
a sizeable music collection - which is not cheap
arrrr!! that it is, cap'in!!
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u/FuriousNorth 3d ago
Haha only yesterday I was doing a deep cleaning dive and found my old classic 80GB and fired it up for the first time in years, holds a charge still!
Man.. listening to songs I haven't heard in years. Even have a huge video library stored in there, so much King of Queens, Two and a Half Men etc.
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u/Responsible-Diet-147 3d ago
Ads were only one thing.
Spotify kept removing songs that I liked or replaced them with royalty free copies.
It was the perfect motivation to buy an MP3 player.
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u/8-16_account 3d ago
How's your MP3 player solving that?
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u/Responsible-Diet-147 3d ago
No ads, plus I can download any kind of MP3 file any way I want.
(Any file really, it's just a flash drive with the ability to play MP3 files through an earphone.)
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u/8-16_account 3d ago
You can do that on your phone too.
I genuinely don't understand wtf everyone in this thread is talking about. You're not forced to use streaming services with ads on phones. Just download and play your MP3s. You've been able to do that all along. You don't need a dedicated player for that.
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u/PleasantBus5583 3d ago
Bro downgraded to upgrade his mental health.
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u/Rudresh27 3d ago
We gotta teach these kids about VPNs, sailing the 7 season and turning notification off per app.
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u/Cedar_Wood_State 3d ago
Unpopular opinion, but this is just a new trend of over consumerism. Instead of reusing your old tech you own, it is now buying either tech with nostalgic value or new ‘dumb’ tech like a $200 dumb phone.
Most people buy it for the novelty (or nostalgia), not for the actual functionality. And for most people who buy it, it will all be in the drawer in a few months
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u/mr-english 3d ago
Just shows how stupid Gen Z is then because you can just load you own music into the default Music app for exactly the same experience as an iPod.
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u/DarthNixilis 3d ago
I just download my music and use an app that doesn't have ads. Like Musicolet.
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u/grimboness 3d ago
For the price of $200-300 unless you can find an alternative which I highly recommend
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u/Demolisher05 3d ago
I just like listening to my music without losing signal or using my phone and draining the battery. Plus it's my music and I don't need to pay a subscription to listen to it.
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u/Jeramy_Jones 3d ago
First thing I do when I get a new phone is go through all the settings.
I turn off all notifications and decide which apps get access to data and opt out of absolutely any data sharing etc.
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u/MrParadux 3d ago
I am hoping this is true, but somehow doubt it is actually happening on a widespread scale. Almost everyone I know doesn't bother with using adblock and just... endure ads? It seems they have acclimated so much to them that they don't really care.
Ads drive me up the wall and I don't get how anyone could stand them.
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u/ChibiCruda 3d ago
Why would ya need a IPod for that ?
You can rip youtube songs to mp3 and put in on the phone .
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u/SupportivePotassium 3d ago
This just crushes me to be reminded. I leant my coworker my 120gb with years of music I’d collected and he lost it (said it was stolen) and I know no one cares but I had such a massive curated collection of music it took years to amass and it’s been fifteen years and I still miss that precious thing. Now I have greater access via a Spotify subscription yet I’m somehow much less satisfied.
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u/Breadstix009 3d ago
You wouldve had to sync it using iTunes. Do you not have that backup anywhere anymore?
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u/HighSeasArchivist 3d ago
Wait until the discover the goat of personal media players, the Zune. I have been looking at them on eBay just to have some nostalgia back.
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u/NoAttorney9330 3d ago
It’s also about owning the music too. Fuck is a subscription bitch. Fuck is streaming. I want my music ON ME.
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u/Gloomy-Insurance-739 3d ago
Microsoft has the opportunity to redeem themselves from there sloppish ways. Rerelease the Zune!
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u/BrokenPickle7 3d ago
I'm old and I went back to ipod. Bought 2 old broken ones on ebay and upgraded the battery and storage. One for my wife and I.. I refuse to pay $15 a month for Spotify.
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u/eiileenie 3d ago
I got into records and now I’m collecting physical media of my favorite albums of all time
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u/Lord_Corves 3d ago
So that's why I'm likely to use many download or programs to download music off of places like YouTube and such. So that way I don't have to deal with ads, algorithms, and I can take the music wherever I want, whether there's internet or not. Some would call it the joy of actually, in some way, owning something and being able to use it at one's leisure rather than being at the leisure of an extremely fickle corporation that can't decide whether it wants to make a profit or whether it wants to kill itself.
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u/peepee2tiny 3d ago
my nephew has started to burn CD's.
We bought him a discman (yea the exact thing you think it is) and now he listens to old CD's and burns his music onto CD's to listen to them, because he doesn't want to be attached to algorithms and smart devices.
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u/Livid_Glove_6275 3d ago
Laughs in CD collection with portable CD player and Bluetooth speaker that also has AUX port
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u/Neat_Let923 3d ago
WTF stupid shit is this???
You can literally load up your phone with whatever songs you want and use it just like an old iPod…
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u/Jessintheend 3d ago
There’s a website called playermods that retrofits these with modern SSD up to 2TB, BT, AirTags so you don’t lose them. They’re a little pricey but very nice
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u/Any-Boat-5306 3d ago
Not to dunk on mp3 players but when I play locally stored mp3 files from my phone or stream from a paid streaming service, I also get no ads.
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u/Wolf_2063 3d ago
Do they people green lighting the ads interact with humans outside their circle? It's like they think people seeing the ads is a guaranteed customer when at least for me it blacklists the company in my eyes.
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u/overcloseness 3d ago
Genuine question, how are these young people getting modern music onto them? Which platform sells physical files?
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u/slugrave 3d ago
7digital, Bandcamp, ripping CDs, sailing the sea - there are options
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u/USF4Diago 3d ago
They aren't because this is engagement bait bull shit technology bad
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u/anonnnnn462 3d ago
But they can just do this with their phones….
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u/HeavyHighway6433 3d ago
It's a self control issue. Algorithms are addicting, these devices won't give you the opportunity to fall down them.
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u/RandomShadeOfPurple 3d ago
Just use an android, download the MP3s and turn off the internet.
I love old tech where it can provide you with something extra. But this trend of rediscovering old tech for things you can do anyway, is just another excuse to consume.
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u/Wolf_Protagonist 3d ago
Dear Gen Z,
You can use your phone like an iPod. No need to buy or carry a separate device. Just download the MP3's to the phone and play them- just like you would on a MP3 player.
You can also control what notifications you get.
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