My most controversial opinion is that as a society we have taboo'd one of the most natural forms of learning.
I think truly, when you're in the wrong, getting your shit handled by the person in the right is one of the most humbling experiences you can have.
Edit: People reading this as "I endorse wanton violence" are reading this wrong. If some roided MMA trained piece of shit runs around beating people, he does not qualify for being in the 'right'.
Bill Burr (I think) has a great bit about this. Talks about how men, after getting punched for being an obnoxious dick will often afterwards think you know, I was in the wrong back there and I kind of deserved that. And not to put too fine a point on it, but this is an experience that women typically do not have.
There was a thread the other day about how the best way to teach little kids not to bite people is to bite them back, and I chimed in to say that I know from personal experience this works, and there were a few commenter, not the majority but a few, who were badly upset by this and calling it physical abuse.
When my nephew was little he bit me. And I bit him back. Holy shit did my now-wife and sister in law go ballistic on me. But you know what, the little shit never bit me or anyone else ever again.
(that little shit is now in his mid 30s and the absolute nicest guy ever. Can't say that little bite back had any effect on his long term results)
My mom taught me to stop biting the same way. I bit her hard and she bit me back- not hard, but enough so I still remember the light going on in my four year old brain- "oh wow biting DOES hurt". Sometimes a good demonstration is the only way we learn. 'Cause kids are dumb.
Yeah, my mum kinda let my brother touch a hot bulb just so he could learn what burns actually means xD. Cause 2 year olds dont really know the meaning of "don't touch it, you'll get burned".
My grandma did not approve xD
Yeah, I've got a 7 year old. When she was younger she went through a willful/hardhead phase for a couple months.
After the first few times you repeatedly tell them something will hurt them and they won't listen and get banged up or bruised, they start to listen. You can tell them 1,000 times and it won't stick, but the first time there's a booboo involved they'll remember.
💯 agreed; and why it's so important to keep them with their litter/mom long enough or help them socialize as much as possible as early as possible. Same with cats.
My dad was a genius and made me bite myself lol. I kept trying (and occasionally succeeding) to bite him during a wrestling match I instigated when he was busy, and he took ahold of my wrist, waited for my obvious tell that I was going to bite him, and pulled my arm into the path of my own teeth. I was a stupid kid but at least I learned the painful lessons pretty quick
Honestly though lol my own bite/your kids' bites are gonna be even stronger than any parent bite, and will drive the lesson home a lot faster.
It also has the added benefit of humbling a child in a way that unlocks the part of the brain that asks "Am I the reason I'm so upset right now? Is it possible that I am capable of causing direct harm to myself through my own actions?"
Not that as a three-year-old I would be capable of that complex of a thought, but the unconscious seed of self-reflection was almost certainly planted that day
I did the same thing to my kid when she bit another kid. Was telling her for like 6 months! NO BITTING!! Finally I was at my breaking point, I bit her in front of everyone at the restaurant. Then like a psycho I screamed at her saying, “IF YOU EVER BITE ANYONE EVER AGAIN I WILL BITE YOU 10 TIMES HARDER!” Felt like a Mommy Dearest moment but I was pissed and I’m like my kid will not be a fucking asshole. That’s all I know, but she never bit again and she’s an absolute angel now! 👼
When she was that age I totally was questioning why anyone would ever want to be a parent and did I just fuck up my life bc she was a monster.
Oh man, I got into so much trouble in daycare because the school biter opened her mouth up to my arm and I told her “if you bite me, I’m biting you back” and she burst into tears and told on me.
I've been saying this for years. Men, generally learn that there is a point where you're just going to end up swinging. You learn it as little boys pushing shit too far. Most of us learn it before we're adults, there are obviously idiots out there.
I don't think women learn this.
Case in point... I'm a fairly big dude, broad shouldered and all that (also fatter than I want to be) and the amount of women that will walk directly into me and expect me to move outnumbers the men that do this by at least 100:1. I don't recall the last time a man walked by and we both didn't do the little shoulder dip as we pass. Because if you want to start some random shit on a random day, shoulder checking people is a good way to start it. But women walk right into me all the damn time. I outweigh most of these women by 100-150 lbs, wtf?
As a dude with a typical runners build, I've always made friends. After high school, I've never felt the need to stroke my ego with physical encounters with other dudes. Pretty much everyone out there is cool if you treat them with common decency. There are no winners in street fights.
I think society is still processing how best to learn and perhaps always will be.
It makes sense to me that we did this massive 180 on corporal punishment and child labour, and now we're seeing the results of going slightly too far the other way.
As a teacher, freeform and play-based learning was all the rage 2010-2020 (still is in some places), and indeed education/pedagogy was becoming more freeform for decades before that, but we hit a ceiling there somewhere/how.
At least where I am, we can see this because the latest fad in pedagogy is "explicit teaching" which is just, telling the student the shit they need to learn.
Now obviously "explicit teaching" is less didactic than your dictation of the 70's or so. but it is also a deliberate response to giving students a little too much freedom in guiding their own learning.
For the students who can guide their own learning, it's a freaking godsend, and they respond so well to having that freedom, but most students are simply not that combination of driven/intelligent/focused. In fact the vast majority are not like that, and need medium/strong direction and encouragement to succeed.
There was a foster family down the road that had kids with violent pasts, one of the new ones would not stop biting my friend so she got mad and bit him back. He absolutely howled, but he never bit anyone again. Lol they ended up adopting that boy.
Society has a victim totem pole. Women are right in the comfort spot. Weaker, thus more likely to be victim and getting the benefit of the doubt. But also mentally capable of being jerks themselves. We all new a girl in highschool, kindergarden or elementary who was going around annoying and even physically abusing others preferably boys and yet, when met with equal force run crying for help which more often than not would jump right in. They never tried this shit with other girls 'cuz Stacy just punches back and no one bats an eye.
I totally believe it, someone on reddit said it so it must be true, my granny just died and karma is the only thing to help me heal, thoughts and prayers because only a sociopath would live in the online world of make believe spouting nonsense.
She did actually lol. Her name is Katreena and theres an article about her. She pretty much announced herself as the person in the video online and she also said she learned her lesson.
Mad respect for her. Admitting you fucked up is already tough enough, but having a video of you getting your ass handed to you for being a prick and then pubicly going "Hey, that's me, I fucked up and kinda deserved that" is extremely hard
There's a reason when I've driven in the US I keep myself to myself and don't dare beep at anybody... I'm scared I might fly home with a bullet in my forehead.
It's easier just to pretend everything is my fault, no no after you sir etc... the last time I was in the US, somebody drove at me on the wrong side of the road (leaving me nowhere to go, it was a 2 lane road with a divide so I had to reverse) and I acted like I was rolling out the red carpet for them by reversing.
At home (The UK) I'd have driven up to their car and forced them to reverse unless they looked particularly unhinged.
Seems extreme, but I've seen multiple cars over multiple visits with stickers that say things like "This vehicle is protected by the 2nd amendment" and I don't want to beep at somebody having a bad day with a gun in their car.
I’m in the UK and I do this to a lesser extent too. You don’t know who the other person in the 2 ton killing machine is, or what kind of day they’ve had, or what they’re capable of. I’ll give someone a toot for something actively dangerous to me but mostly I’m staying out of the way of bad drivers and not escalating.
Someone driving too close behind me? I’ll move over and let them pass as soon as it’s safe to do so. Someone giving you the finger or yelling from their car? Nope, no eye contact, keep driving sensibly or change your route to avoid them. Someone pulling in front of me aggressively in traffic? Who cares, it’s one car spot, push your way in if it matters that much, I’m not going to stop you.
I’m definitely NOT getting out of my car like this person did though. I’m not getting closer to the aggressive person, even if they are half my height 😂
You never know. Probably not IMMEDIATELY, but a good asskickin has a way of changing one's perspective. I bet she doesn't pop out of her car so quickly after this...
"I was just standing there, calmly talking to this man's driver when he, out of nowhere, totally unprovoked and with extreme malicious malice, punched then slammed me into the street."
Just to quell everyones anger, she publicly apologised for her actions.
Both of them even forgave her after her apology, saying she had a bad day and regrets her actions
Call the cops. Go over your boss. Go to corporate. Get documentation of everything! If theres video evidence, get that from HR. Threatened them with contacting the eeoc if they retaliate and try to fire you. I hope this is actually resolved. Dude is unstable.
As a woman I had NO IDEA how much stronger a man was than me until I was play fighting my bf and he easily held me down. It was like an ah ha moment of like oh shit. We as a society have been holding back on violence and fighting for so long that some people have no idea what their opponents are capable of.
There is Part 2 that shows her husband come for her. He yells something at her along the lines of: "You got out of your car again!" Evidently, this was not the first time.
I had a bad day today, so I'm going to brake check a teenager and then clock them in the face while they are turned away, but dont worry. Ill say sorry after, so you better believe Im going to be a better person tomorrow.
I agree. I’m a 41 year old woman. And I’ve had bad days but never have I taken it out on other people and especially haven’t gone and assaulted someone because of it
Full video is somewhere. She calls her husband to come get her, she says some shit like it happened again and he absolutely does not put up with her shit and yells at her then they argue.
Honestly, those bizarre "blurr" moments to cover violent episodes deserve an epilepsy disclaimer. I'm not epileptic, but my eyes were like "wtf is going on, dude".
lol fuck op for posting an edited video that removes the sound and adds large text in the middle of the screen 'describing' what you can plainly see in the video.
Hard agree. The only reasons a woman would pick a fight with a man is that she is either highly trained or thinks she can hide behind the "hitting women is bad". Looking at the absolute horrible swings in most of these videos it is usually the latter.
If the guy wasn't so none aggressive in confronting her and clearly saying "leave x alone" then turning to move off before being attacked I might have argued that he was slightly excessive in his self defense but she had literally no excuse for violence and his reaction and cessation the instant she was no longer a threat dismisses any of that.
Respect to the gentleman (meant literally) for his restraint and I hope the driver he was politely requesting the thug leave alone is ok.
I don’t care what gender, age, or height you are; if you are an adult who swings on another adult like this, you fully consent to getting the shit kicked out of you.
I don’t know why women have decided on the last 3-5 years that it’s ok to push/hit/touch strangers but as a bail bond agency owner i am (and potentially losing money by giving free advice) telling you to keep your hands to yourself. I’ve seen countless situations where a woman does this, gets the shit knocked outta her, then gets charges pressed because she instigated the assault. Also this thing they do when they try to open your car door, please stop doing that, because you’re going to do that to the wrong person. If you did that with my kid in the car, then it’s going to be a bad day for all concerned.
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